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Bail set at $2.5 million; judge requires in-patient psychiatric facility, GPS ankle bracelet.
Repeat offender? Parents knew and told therapist but didn't go to police?
According to court documents, Doshay’s father told a therapist that Doshay had made a similar attempted kidnapping attempt in the past.The big question now is whether DA Bonnie Dumanis will continue pursuing only simple, not aggravated, kidnapping charges so that Doshay can be out on the streets preying on children in just a few years.
10News found an article in the Rancho Santa Fe News from September 2010 warning parents about a blond man with curls who tried to lure a five-year-old girl at Solana Santa Fe Elementary School, the school Jack Doshay used to attend near his home.
UPDATE: Prosecutors say father Glenn Doshay tried to prevent therapist from contacting police. Sicko. UPDATE 2: Doshay makes bail.
This unfortunate situation is now solidly and completely in the hands of the justice system - a very complex and sophisticated labyrinth of procedure, protocol, power, and influence that will dominate the lives of all involved. Or said another way - hell..... Time to move on....
ReplyDelete- The Sculpin
Legal interpretation of "errant" behavior is predicated by the amount of money spent for expert professional opinion. It is already apparent in this case by the selection of containment facilities. Bonnie Dumanis is a politician - she'll decide what is in her best interests image-wise. Face it - the legal system is just another market place, where "rights" are bought and sold.
ReplyDeleteThe parents should form a lynch mob and kill the bastard!
ReplyDelete10:25- Comments like that are totally inappropriate no matter how much you dislike this guy. Lynch mobs and killing should never be considered no matter how despicable the crime. I had hoped by the time we reached the 21st century the days of lynchings would be over. I guess there are still people who think it is OK to take justice into ones own hands, but I hope more rational minds will prevail. I doubt if even Dumais can look the other way on this one.
ReplyDeleteIs the fix in?. Someone should look into how much money daddy has donated to the Dumanis' election and reelection campaign funds.
ReplyDeleteI'd say this guy is a suicide risk; just hope he doesn't want to take others with him.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know where we can get a copy of the court documents ?
ReplyDeleteI believe you can search for glenn doshay, jack henry doshay, skyline abduction online
DeleteI also believe you can contact One Legal and they can pull the records on Glenn Doshay and Jack Doshay. There may be argument for a Civil Suit if the father knew of this behavior in advance of the kidnapping. Seems a Civil path may go further than a Criminal route
DeleteOK. First he is innocent until proven guilty. Got that but we have DNA.
ReplyDeleteWe need to get Mr Doshay where it counts...... his Goldman Sachs Investment Account.
Lets encourage the neighbors who live in his high risk Fairbanks Ranch area and the parents of the abducted school girl to file a Civil Suit after they get all their free discovery from the criminal case.
The Fairbanks neighbors were at substantial risk for four years and of course the young girl was damaged for life because the parents held back on very relevant information they knew four years earlier. If we can not get hm on criminal we need Civil help (worked ultimately with OJ)
How many other Fairbanks or Solano or Carmel Valley girls were abused by Jack Doshay but too afraid , embarrassed or ashamed to some forward?
I find it disturbing he father and mother knew of this behavior well in advance of the kidnapping and not only did nothing about it but potentially tampered with evidence
Glenn Doshay and others knew of the pattern of short circuited wiring in Jack Doshay . Do we need a Jeffrey Dahmer incident before we do something when their is a mental issue and a wealthy parent protecting(or financing) his sons abusive behavior?
Jack Doshay has done this before with a young girl at Fairbanks School down the street from his house.How many times did he not get caught when there were no wtnesses coming forward? I assume this is why the parents shipped him out of the Fairbanks Ranch area for short stints of hiding
A Civil path may go further than a Criminal route
If a prosecutor can get a partial DNA test, narrowing suspects down to 50 million people, they will. Such loose forensic "evidence" is viable probable cause to arrest according to some judges. If a later and more thorough DNA test is done on the same evidence that exonerates the suspect, the arrest warrant will still stand as valid and a prosecutor can choose to keep the case in gear going to trial anyway. Doshay's defense lawyer said the father was misquoted as part of the probable cause to arrest. That can be just as bad as a misleading forensic test conclusion - but especially when its added to junk forensics. My impression is that they got their man. But I'm cautious because I'm relying on one prosecutor and the media for accuracy when I know first hand how ruthless some prosecutors can be when they just want to close a case at any cost for personal political gain.
DeleteThe natural inclination is for a parent to protect their child. Jumping on the parents' case is an easy out for some peoples' anger; they certainly didn't encourage the son's criminal behavior; they just didn't recognize the severity of his problems. How many of you out there would turn in your kid on some suspicion? The "kid" is an adult and responsible for his own behavior.
ReplyDeleteWell said. With the resources this family has, I can almost guarantee the suspect has been undergoing intensive treatments of various kinds since problems (like the suspected previous kidnapping attempt) arose. I can tell you these people have done amazing things for our community, and have raised 2 other lovely children who are also currently contributing positively to society as well. His parents did everything within their power to raise him well, and now are, what seems to me, doing what any parent with resources would do, which is minimize the damage, and give their child a chance to serve the rest of his life in a psychiatric facility, getting the help he most definitely will not receive in prison. It breaks my heart to read all these comments about people accusing Mr. doshay and his wife preemptively of using their money to dishonorably sway the court's decision. They have no idea who these people are, and it's quite easy to demonize people with money...
DeleteIt is a moral dilemma for the parent . It is not about encouragement as it is about protecting people from the truth. We saw this with Robert Durst
ReplyDeleteDo you spend an unlimited amount of money to get your child out from under a child kidnapping case to assault where he is free to live by a school do it again
or
Do you release everything you know (full disclosure) to the prosecutor knowing at the end of the day you may save a someone else's child from horrific mental damage or possibly save their life?
For me the decision is easy. Turn your son in
Which his father did.
Delete8:02 AM The rat cat is sort of out of the bag now. The son is now fully exposed and turning him in has no relevance anymore. I assume the courts will be able to break the medical confidentiality aspects of his psychiatric sessions; also, weren't the doctors the ones who should have blown the whistle if they thought he was an imminent danger to himself or others?
ReplyDeleteIt's very easy to connect the dots in hindsight. It's something altogether different to try and connect dots that haven't happened. That requires judgement. Something that is sorely lacking here......
ReplyDelete- The Sculpin
Sculpin is part of the rat pack too, it appears.
Delete9:16 and others- Re: Doctors i.e.: psychiatrists or psychologists, or whoever he was seeing. The law read as such: If a person tells you in a therapy session that he or she is going to harm someone and they tell you the name, you must report it. If not, you cannot break confidentiality. Secondly, there is a matter of what is called "privilege" which is a legal term. If the court issues a court order to the the mental health professional, then he or she must turn over all documentation. If no court order, but just a supoena, it is against the ethical code of all mental health professionals to turn over anything to a court without a court order. So, in this case, from what I have read, the father told the therapist, who then told the authorities. We don't know what the perpetrator said in sessions with the therapist, if he said anything. And, he has not been tried and convicted so perhaps we should not try and convict him in social media, as often happens these days.
ReplyDelete2:49, and court orders are a dime a dozen if you can get ink that cheap. From what I saw on the news, Pfingst said the arrest warrant contained things the father never said. If that's true and if a prosecutor has to carelessly make up major shit to arrest someone, something's very wrong about the case. But it will be interesting to find out exactly what that/those thing(s) were. If we ever do.
ReplyDeleteHere's what bugs me:
ReplyDeleteIn the same circumstances, a person without access to sugar daddy does not bail out, and stays in jail. This defendant will be admitted to a residential psych facility; the average defendant will not. At trail, this defendant will receive a leg up on his mental defect defense by pointing to his time spent at in-patient treatment. The average defendant will have no record of treatment, except what little is provided in jail. It will appear to be a weak legal tactic to avoid accountability.
Don't forget, he surrendered to authorities at a treatment facility. You think it was his idea to go there, or Phingst's?
This young man's family is able to buy him a ready-made insanity defense. Who knows, maybe that defense is valid. But what bugs me is that the same guy, doing the same crime, with the same mental capacity, but without money, doesn't get access to the same defense. It's not the quality of lawyer that's different; it's the actual evidence presented to the jury.
There is a huge difference between treatment for depression and not guilty by reason of insanity. The hurdle is very high for that verdict and Doshay seems to have hid his "insanity" fairly well from fellow college students and people he met.
Delete"Insanity" can be very subtle....and what it impels people to act out...
DeleteOne day after the bail hearing, Jack Doshay’s passport was surrendered and is now stored in the criminal vault of the business office in San Diego’s North County Superior Courthouse. The next day, on April 11, a bond guaranteeing $2.5 million bail was secured from ALL HOURS BAIL BONDS, after a premium of $200,000 was paid; this according to documents in the criminal file for Jack Henry Doshay
ReplyDeletevery sad situation for all. that is what happens when a family's emphasis is making huge amounts of money on hedge funds...
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