The city of Encinitas has selected Mark Delin as the city’s new assistant city manager. Delin has over 30 years of experience, serving the San Diego County area for more than 17 years in public sector senior management positions.
Why do we need an assistant city manager?? Someone else that does nothing all day but still receives an outrageous salary and pension?? Let me guess?? He also gets a phone, car, life insurance, health insurance, free office space, 30 days paid vacation and sick leave per year, plus _______, (fill in the blank.)
No thanks!! We don't need him nor want him. The city manager doesn't seem so overwhelmed with work. But I'm sure the council will tell us how lucky we are to have him, just as they told us the same about Vina.
A city of less than 100,000 people need all these overpaid bureaucrats? Where does the buck stop in this process? The city manager is obviously a token position.
I also think Strong has a good history with our city, and was not nearly as bad as some of the newcomers hired under Gus Vina. Many of the "good guys" (and gals) have departed. Patrick Murphy, former Community Services Director, wasn't one of them.
On June 22, 2016 Mayor Gaspar voted to settle the David Meyer DCM properties lawsuit which included $120,000 payment to Meyer/DCM properties. On Sept. 23, 2016, three months later, David Meyer of DCM properties made a political contribution of $750 to Mayor Gaspar's campaign fund for county supervisor.
It's a Dalager Kitchegate type moment! - Gaspar takes bribes! Delayed response bribe. She, as Supervisor, would be like her hero, Trump as President - a complete and utter disaster! Also, totally unqualified for the position.
1:01- When we incorporated in 1986 the city needed employees and when the hiring was completed there were 101 people. At that time, the city had around 59,000 people. Now, in 2016 we have over 200 employees, with a population increase of about 3000. Both of these numbers do not include the sheriff or the contractors we hire. So 3000 more people and about double the amount of employees. I also have to wonder why we need so many?
Mike Strong was overheard at the first community meeting at the Cardiff school about the Up Yours Encinitas hosing plan spreading bald faced lies about what passing this stinker would bring to our community.
Fortunately for us all, there were a number of citizens who corrected him directly and spread the real truth to those citizens who may not have known better than to trust anything coming from Manjeet and his automatons.
Hey Karen, why is Manjeet still here? Don't stop now with Mike. There are too many others that need to go, but Manjeet should be the first and take Masih the community destroyer with him.
How many residents will he be allowed to persecute and force them to have to band together and organize against Masih's one size fits all street design to defend their neighborhoods character?
It has been years since council directed him from the dais to stop insisting on the same old parameters for every damn neighborhood and he still forges ahead without a price to pay. Why is he still here?
Karen, prove your worth to this community while you still have the power.
Mike Strong is only a small player in this whole thing. While I have also heard him spew propaganda, he is only one of many, and they are all more less saying the same thing. As the saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. That means.....
I thought he was fair, even though we disagreed on the AHE. He pointed out every single change to proposition A and spent his own personal time to make sure I understood what it meant. It helped me provide comment on the plan, as it did others. As a result some things changed, which was good.
Great advise! There are a lot of other employees who would have a party after he left like they did with Vina in Sacto!
Ranu is the butt of every joke behind his back and can't face up to a question. Check out Ehlers and Donna Westbrook's comments during Oral Communication last Wednesday!
no urgency here but does a fish really rot from the head down? Methinks it's the entrails that "go" first but perhaps the head is next... I like cheeks but if you're saying they're rotten, you've spoiled it for me. Thanks.
Forgot about his BS non profit to get his wife elected. Dude is full of BS and seems to have no repsect for the law, certainly has no ethics. He should drop out and saves us and his business from a nasty recall. What a poser. Between him and Marco I now have two kooks to drop in on.
Cleansing at City Hall starts at the top with department heads. Manjeet Ranu should be first to go. Let's hope he already put his resume out. Mike Strong takes his orders from Ranu. Both were at the rail corridor advisory group meeting on Thursday. Mike was his normal self. Manjeet looked like he was in a funk -- head down and never smiling.
Dump Muir!! Muir named head of SAN Diego Water authority. Muir has continuously lied to the public regarding a water shortage. There is not now nor has there ever been a water shortage. The false shortage is/was designed to raise rates.
Now the head liar leads the water authority. Payback for a job well done eh Mark??
Kick Muir out of office so the SD Water authority finds a new head liar.
Attention fellow citizens! Everyone should know what went down late this past week after one of 'off the rail] folks castigated Catherine for having her signs on the public right of way.
Many of her signs were illegally removed in the middle of the night a day after this Gaspar proponent went after Catherine at the council meeting.
Code enforcement is the only one legally permitted to remove campaign signs from the right of way and they never do so in the middle of the night.
The height of hypocritical thinking is evident, since so many of their candidates have their overly large signs plastered all over town on the public right of way and none of those are being removed.
You may ask why doing the same as they have done would not be appropriate. Taking the higher ground is always easier. They have chosen to take the low road and, considering who runs their campaigns that we all know only too well, nothing is much of a surprise.
Code enforcement is the only one permitted to remove signs illegally posted on the right of way. If one were to point out all of the Muir and Gaspar and Phil signs that should come down, our streets would look barren.
It is to our credit that we have not gone after them like they have done to Catherine.
Let them have all of their signs wherever they want. For the rest of us, please try to post these on private property by permission of the homeowners. If these disappear for some reason, duh, if the middle of the night, please let us all know here on EU.
This is the way forward with honor. We will and should not stoop to their level in retribution. The retribution will come from us, the voters. Peace out.
The Measure T signs must be with the missing Blakespear signs that disappeared in the middle of the night a few days ago all over our community.
One thing is certain. It was not code enforcement.
They must be desperate and know that they are about to lose big time. How else would one explain the attack only mode they in? Then again, with their known puppet masters, they have little else to work with.
Paul GASpar is running a dirty campaign. The man has no political experience. so to cover it up, he lashes out at his opponent, Catherine Blakespear, spouting one lie after another.
This is not the kind of man we need to be running our city. The "so-called doctor" can stick his stethoscope up his back end while parading around in his wife's heels.
I am happy to see that Catherine is taking the HIGH round, while the GASpars are taking the LOW road. We can't expect much more from these Trump lovers
Maybe it's a good thing someone else is raising and looking after their children.
The UT reported that Gaspar's Supervisoral campaign is one of the most heavily funded in the county races. The money comes from the developers, the Lincoln club and other business interests in the conservative business camp. She is the bride of Franken$tock$, created to pave the way for the green lighting of all the proposed housing developments thru-out the county. She avoided debates, as she is too stupid to discuss or understand the issues, other than what she is told. The Gaspars are shameless opportunists, who will do the bidding of their masters - the greedy developers like DCM and others. Watch for the intense campaign blitz in the coming weeks; Roberts needs to react soon, or he may lose. That will be a tragedy for the county, as Bimbo will open the flood gates for the destruction of the last of the remaining open spaces.
Both Pruim and Manjeet need to go. Too much poor judgement decisions and lack of good leadership skills for our City. The City Manager needs to clean house to allow City Hall to repair public image and start acting in a transparent manner.
Both my Blakespear and No on T signs were stolen. I live very close to the NoRailTrail group, or what is left of them. There are only about 6 hard core haters in the group. You may have seen one of them in oral communications last week at the City Council meeting. He was attempting to shame Blakespear. Go figure. If she hadn't flipped the trail would be on the east side.
Our Clinton Kaine yard sign was stolen this weekend (didn't last 3 hours) and it was right next to a Blakespear sign - and that thing is still there........go figure.....
Sculpin, I'm very disappointed that you are not using an electronic sign. Electronic signs can be used for years and are a one time only degradation to the environment. The paper/plastic sign will need to be recycled at additional costs to the environment. Shame on you. You can buy electronic yard signs on Amazon.
An Applegate sign was vandalized. Issa's group is resorting to a smear campaign, dragging up a contentious divorce. The ex-wife has recently stated that there are no issues between them currently and that she will vote for her ex-husband. Issa is desperate, as this is going to be a close vote. I won't vote for Issa because of this dirty tactic.
6:13- That would be true if he did not have the Lincoln Club and all of their money behind him. If we want Catherine to win, we must help her in any way that we legally can.
The bigger fish to fry is Kristin Gaspar - if she is elected Supervisor, the damage she will do to the county's open space will last generations. Even tot he established communities that are struggling with reasonable growth control - Gaspar will the developers determine the regional policies. She is dangerous to a way of life - that being not sold out to special interests whose only motivation is profit above the public good. Vote against all Gaspars!
Woke up this morning on Neptune. Mild santa annas... what do I hear?
The roar of straightpipes ripping thtrough out City neighborhoods and then fling down I5 with full 100 DBs blaring. Amplifying FUCK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO LIVE 1 MILE OF ANYWHERE I DRIVE!!!!!!
This is the scumb bag mentally we are dealing with.
City Elected officials need to direct the City Manager to begin enforcing the California Vehicle Code (CVC) in Encinitas and ticketing violators. City Elected officials also need to start a collition with other north coastal Cities with a message to the state DMV and Highway Patrol requesting that they begin enforcing the CVC.
This is ridiculous. I never see cops ticketing anyone on City streets or the freeway. What are they doing all day?? City Council needs to ask the city manager and the captain of the Sheriffs assigned to Encinitas.
What good does posting here about this do? Zero. Nada. Zilch. Have you called the sheriff's station on El Cam Real? Have you called or posted to the city manager? Have you called or posted to the council members? Have you spoken during oral communications at a council meeting?
Nope. It's your stupidity and inaction that's bothersome. If you want a remedy, talk to the people who might actually be able to produce a remedy. All you're doing by posting here is ranting and showing your lack of willingness to do something that might get results. Stop being such a wimp.
Big words from a complainer of others. Quite your whining. All these comments are on sharing optinions. You go talk to council or city manager. See how far that gets you.... ha!!!
Straight pipe dude: You're gotten nowhere by bitching and whining on this blog, so why not call the sheriff's department captain in Encinitas, and post to or call the city manager and council members to lodge your complaint? Taking action just worked for the people who wanted to save the ficus trees downtown, so it might work for you. Then you could brag about your success instead of annoying and boring readers here with your bitching and whining.
You know what I heard tonight? Straightpipes Roaring down the road with no cop in sight. If fact, I haven't seen a cop in Encinitas giving a ticket in like 4 years. Do we have cops in Encinitas?
I know we have plenty of whimpy A-holes wantabees - Just read 7:19 above. Pure disrespectful idiot.
Cardiff signs for Gaspar have only to do with the rail trail. How to peel these voters off him and look at the bigger picture: Gaspar = development without end is the challenge.
7:41- How many Cardiff signs for Gaspar have you seen. The ones I have seen are on Vulcan where the 6 or 7 rogue NoRailtrail haters live. They would probably vote for Gaspar anyway, as their houses are quite large, indicating a lot of money. I haven't seen any anywhere else, and I live in Cardiff. I have a Blakespear sign (or did have until it was stolen) and most of my neighbors have Blakespar as well. I don't think you can peel off those Gasparians, as they are a group unto themselves. If you recall there were 1500 people that signed the petition for the No Rail Trail on the east side. Paul says he has been on it from the beginning, but from what I have heard, he didn't sign the petition. So exactly when did he see the opportunity to make in roads with this group? Inquiring minds want to know, but I only know of one person who has the whole list.
Sounds like Dr. Lori again! Please just post your name already. You don't fool us wiith your sporadic and nonsensical post. Oh yeah, I live in Cardiff and 8 of my neighbors Gaspar signs were stolen. It must be Blakespear doing it!
11:44- Is everything wrong in this town blamed on Dr. Lori. I have never met her, because I am new to Encinitas. Someone turned me on to this blog and it seems like everytime something someone doesn't like it gets blamed on this person. Who is she? And why is she so devisive to some?
11:53-This is Lorri Greene, aka Dr. Lorri. I did not post 8:06, but I will tell you that I have posted on this blog. There are a few people, or perhaps many, who see me as either stupid, a threat, a drug addict, you name it, and they have probably posted it. Truth is this: I am a psychologist by profession. I moderate the Facebook group, Encinitas Votes. I have lived in Cardiff for 35 years and have been active in politics most of that time, although I have never run for City Council. I was a Parks and Recreation Commissioner for 6 years and then I needed a break. I was one of the original signers of the NORailTrail petition asking for it to be moved from the East to the West side of the tracks, and yes, I do have the list of the 1500 plus people who also signed. I paid for it by doing a CPRA request to the City, as anyone else can do. That's about it for now. Now, watch the haters come out with their usual stuff about me. In fact, if you stay on this blog long enough, you will understand that I must be some kind of a menace at the ripe old age of 69. I take it as a personal compliment that some people on this blog dislike me. And,, of course, I know who they are. Posting anonymously these days is silly, as it is very easy to find who is posting what. Hopefully, you now know who I am. What I stand for is: transparency in our government, polite and respectful discourse, making sure our city does not become home to all that we hate in Orange County, and fighting for our community. How that is done differs depending on who you ask. Lorri Greene, Ph.D., Psychologist.
It's the duo of Thunderhole and Swamper aka Swanner. Egged on by none other the the man who thinks he should be mayor and the man who was ousted from the city council a long time ago and is still trying to be relevant. Hang in there Lorri. You are better than all of them put together.
Is that Cap'n Blotto - Squinky eyed $tock$? He lower than a barnacle scraped off the bilge pump! His protege is running for supervisor - another barnacle.
Bless your heart Dr. Lorrie. Thanks for your courage that others only wish they had.
These others are close and working with the worst council member our city has had in its short life. $sssss$ That the off the rails group knew this and still aligned with this mean drunk and and known verbal abuser, says more about them than anything they could express toward you.
Dr. Lorrie marched with MLK and was one of the impassioned groups of people who went to the South to register voters in areas where such action got people hung and burned alive. Mississippi Burning ring a bell?
She was treated horribly by $ssss$ and had a justified case against this despicable cretin, but chose the higher road and let him off.
Dr. Lorrie, we are honored to have you in our community. How anyone could disparage your efforts, shows them to be at the same low evolutionary level as 'his lowness' and his best buddy Mikey.
They know no bounds of decency and only wish they could approach your dedication to others welfare throughout your life. They are in it for themselves and have always been.
The contrast between the givers and the takers couldn't be more clear.
5:12- Are you kidding me? Lori no more marched with MLK than I did with Hitler. As far as Stocks, she had it coming. She egged him on by flirting with him, getting him drunk, and then tried to say he tried to get in bed with her. She never sued him and if she had a case she would have. I bet she even asked Marco if she could sue and he probably said no, it's your fault. The only nice thing I can think of to say about her is I had a buddy who lost his dog and she did help him thru his grief. Not sure how she helped, but he thinks she is great. now I question my buddies sanity but he's not a half bad dude so I figure he can make one dumb move. She gave him her book about pet loss and signed it "in loving memory of Frodo, his dog" That is just sick. When people write books about how to deal with their dog dying I gotta wonder about what the hell is going on with her. And, she managed to get it published, by a self-help company of course. She has done noting for Encinitas except try to get Sabine out of office. He's a great guy and everytime she gets a chance she tries to screw him. So don't give the newcomer some B.S. story about how wonderful she is.She is a traitor. Just ask the rail trail group.
10:23- Are you effing kidding me? Stocks was forced to drink alcohol by Dr. Lori and then she cam on to him, asking him to go to bed with her? Do I have it right? If so, take a look in the mirror and see what kind of Kool Aid you've been drinking. Everyone is town knows Stocks drinks a lot, and everyone in town knows what a jackass he can be. I can see it now. Dr. L goes up to Stocks, hands him a double scotch or whatever and asks him to go to bed with her. Buddy, you do realize how stupid that sounds I hope. If not, I suggest you check yourself into a rehab or something because it is so over the top it's ridiculous. I have never met Dr. Lori and I know it's over the top. As for Sabine, you think he is a great guy. Care to provide some facts to back it up? Come on man, if you want to diss her be my guest, but at least make it credible.
Neither Stocks nor Dr. Lori are running for election. So although she responded to some stuff on the blog, let's pretend for one moment we have a shred of class and dignity and let it drop. We have a real election in a month..
I am interested in what happened to Mike Strong. There are conflicting reports that he was fired and that he left for greener pastures.
Either way, he is not leaving empty-handed. He has been handling the Housing Element and all of its various flawed iterations for at least six years. He has gotten paid close to $100,000 per year and will leave with six years of pension credit that he can start collecting at age 55. Not bad for a guy who oversaw the biggest clusterf--- in Encinitas history!
Mike was paid more than $500,000, and there has been at least $4 million spent on other consultants and outreach for the project that most hope will go down in flames this November. Vote NO on Measure T, and vote to clean out Encinitas Planning!
If you have tried random commenting on a blog and it's not working (and really, shouldn't that be enough?), perhaps it's time to contact Jay Santos at the Citizens Auxiliary Police.
The housing element seems to be a non issue for Carlsbad. Why are we in Encinitas so F-cked up? http://www.thecoastnews.com/2016/09/29/early-report-shows-carlsbad-meeting-its-housing-needs/
Carlsbad has more vacant and underutilized land. Encinitas is built out, more like Solana Beach or Del Mar. This means that we have to upzone to add infill units, where Carlsbad has to convert vacant land.
I suppose 8:38's definition of LIBERAL is someone who actually pays attention to what's going on and participates in the process. you know, the naysayers, trouble makers, insurgents, ect.
The 29 obstructionists are liberals for sure. They're not gullible, don't swallow the city's BS, and they fight to preserve the qualities that make Encinitas a great place to live.
Muir states his political platform as promoting pension reform! In what alternate reality did that occur?? This guy is either in the Twilight Zone or let $tock$ write his voter booklet statement. He needs to go!
Muir is nothing more than a pension hog. This guy is obviously out to lunch. He sat through most council meetings with nothing to say. Now, at election time, he comes alive.
1:09- Staff is only as good as the leadership. So, I would say the leadership in this City leaves a lot to be desired. If I were King, I would fire a lot of the City Managers, as they are "at will" and not union. I would definitely demand staff to answer citizens questions, no matter whether they want to or not. What happened to Bruce just should not happen. You may not like Bruce, but the fact is the city did not respond to him and that is not legal. Any CPRA request must be responded to, by law, within 10 working days. And yet, Bruce, waited longer than that before taking it to oral communications. There is no excuse that makes this right or legal. I have no idea why they didn't respond, but the attitude at City Hall, unless you are a developer, or a VIP of some sort (thinking of Gaspar and her relationship with the Mizels) is "screw the public. We don't have to respond". That's because of a lack of consequences and that is directly related to Managers.
The answer to why the city didn't respond to Bruce Ehlers is simple. The city never admits they are wrong. To answer Ehlers the city would have had to say that he is correct and the city is wrong.
But the non-answer is an answer. If the city could challenge Ehlers on any of his points, they would have done it at the very beginning. They couldn't. Staff and council always quickly pounce on anyone who is wrong.
It would be bad form for the city to engage in a back and forth with someone who is a declared advocate for the no side. If the city thinks the voters are being fed incorrect information, then the city is within its rights to communicate the correct facts directly to the voters.
Fire her? She's doing exactly what the Council hired her to do. They're not going to fire her, she's doing juuuussst fine. She and Manjeet are goooood.
If Blakespear is elected Mayor, her seat will be open. The majority of three will pick their own special favorite just as they did with Mark Muir without a vote of the people. But, definitely, Kranz shouldn't be re-elected.
Assuming Kranz and Muir are reelected (likely, based on name recognition).
The right wing slate would need to run the table on the mayor and Shaffer's open seat to have a majority. Kranz and Blakespear would become the minority bloc.
If those two seats split with Blakespear winning the mayor, and Graham winning the other seat, then council is split two-two, which would make filling Blakespear's council chair very interesting and difficult. It might stay un-filled for a while.
If Gaspar wins mayor and Tasha wins Shaffer's seat, then basically nothing changes, as Muir and (the other) Gaspar stay in the minority.
The council picks a person for an open seat? It should be a person that ran, but was the next one with the most votes that didn't win a seat in the election.
Council vote fills vacancy. If Blakespear wins mayor, then her council seat becomes vacant on the day she is sworn in as mayor.
I'm with you that in this circumstance, the candidate with the most votes should get the spot by rule. But since that's not the rule, council can make any motion they want and vote on it.
I don't blame them for playing the game by the rules we have. But the rules should be changed.
Why do we need an assistant city manager?? Someone else that does nothing all day but still receives an outrageous salary and pension?? Let me guess?? He also gets a phone, car, life insurance, health insurance, free office space, 30 days paid vacation and sick leave per year, plus _______, (fill in the blank.)
ReplyDeleteNo thanks!! We don't need him nor want him. The city manager doesn't seem so overwhelmed with work.
But I'm sure the council will tell us how lucky we are to have him, just as they told us the same about Vina.
No!! No!! No!!
A city of less than 100,000 people need all these overpaid bureaucrats? Where does the buck stop in this process? The city manager is obviously a token position.
DeleteYes, how much will he be paid? Karen Brust is making more than Gus Vina did. She's not as bad as he was though.
DeleteJust another layer to buffer the CM and Council from resident obstructionists.
ReplyDeleteNext time someone asks a simple question of Manjeet you can add another two weeks to the response time.
What was the question?
DeleteWatch this past Wednesday's oral comms hat after minute 18, 7:18.
DeleteMark is a smart levelheaded good guy. I am glad the city and employed him . Welcome Mark!
ReplyDeleteNow please get busy and fire some of the deadwood managers . I can name three that need to go immediately
OK, name them and why they need to go.
DeleteWord is that Planner Strong was forced out. Not sure why. Maybe because he didn't respond to Bruce.
DeleteDirector of public works director continually executes bad judgement. Needs to go pronto!!!
DeleteNot forced. Also a huge loss for the city to those that know better.
ReplyDeleteAgreed 11:26... Holy trick or treaters. He did a lot to keep our group informed.
DeleteI also think Strong has a good history with our city, and was not nearly as bad as some of the newcomers hired under Gus Vina. Many of the "good guys" (and gals) have departed. Patrick Murphy, former Community Services Director, wasn't one of them.
DeleteOn June 22, 2016 Mayor Gaspar voted to settle the David Meyer DCM properties lawsuit which included $120,000 payment to Meyer/DCM properties.
ReplyDeleteOn Sept. 23, 2016, three months later, David Meyer of DCM properties made a political contribution of $750 to Mayor Gaspar's campaign fund for county supervisor.
11:29- Could you please provide your source? It wouldn't surprise me, but I'd love to read the whole thing. Thanks.
DeleteIt's a Dalager Kitchegate type moment! - Gaspar takes bribes! Delayed response bribe. She, as Supervisor, would be like her hero, Trump as President - a complete and utter disaster! Also, totally unqualified for the position.
DeleteOur city is getting very "top heavy" with employees.
ReplyDeleteHow many employees does it take to run a small city???
Small city in size maybe. More demanding than most
ReplyDeleteMore demanding? How so? In accommodating the developers like DCM?
DeleteMore demanding because more shenanigans caught by Barth's obstructionists.
DeleteEasy way to lessen the demand: stop playing games and hurting the citizenry in favor of developers. The Ciry never can figure that one out.
1:01- When we incorporated in 1986 the city needed employees and when the hiring was completed there were 101 people. At that time, the city had around 59,000 people. Now, in 2016 we have over 200 employees, with a population increase of about 3000. Both of these numbers do not include the sheriff or the contractors we hire. So 3000 more people and about double the amount of employees. I also have to wonder why we need so many?
DeleteMike Strong was overheard at the first community meeting at the Cardiff school about the Up Yours Encinitas hosing plan spreading bald faced lies about what passing this stinker would bring to our community.
ReplyDeleteFortunately for us all, there were a number of citizens who corrected him directly and spread the real truth to those citizens who may not have known better than to trust anything coming from Manjeet and his automatons.
Hey Karen, why is Manjeet still here? Don't stop now with Mike. There are too many others that need to go, but Manjeet should be the first and take Masih the community destroyer with him.
How many residents will he be allowed to persecute and force them to have to band together and organize against Masih's one size fits all street design to defend their neighborhoods character?
It has been years since council directed him from the dais to stop insisting on the same old parameters for every damn neighborhood and he still forges ahead without a price to pay. Why is he still here?
Karen, prove your worth to this community while you still have the power.
Mike Strong is only a small player in this whole thing. While I have also heard him spew propaganda, he is only one of many, and they are all more less saying the same thing. As the saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. That means.....
DeleteI thought he was fair, even though we disagreed on the AHE. He pointed out every single change to proposition A and spent his own personal time to make sure I understood what it meant. It helped me provide comment on the plan, as it did others. As a result some things changed, which was good.
DeleteI thought he seemed fair, too. He probably was indoctrinated and believed the propaganda being put out about the housing element update plans.
DeleteHe often looked trapped, caught between wanting to do the right thing, but stopped by Murphys and now Ranu.
DeleteShow Manjeet the door tomorrow morning first thing. Dude's a liability to the City.
Great advise! There are a lot of other employees who would have a party after he left like they did with Vina in Sacto!
DeleteRanu is the butt of every joke behind his back and can't face up to a question. Check out Ehlers and Donna Westbrook's comments during Oral Communication last Wednesday!
no urgency here but does a fish really rot from the head down? Methinks it's the entrails that "go" first but perhaps the head is next... I like cheeks but if you're saying they're rotten, you've spoiled it for me. Thanks.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/sep/29/ticker-paul-gaspar-not-medical-doctor/
ReplyDeleteForgot about his BS non profit to get his wife elected. Dude is full of BS and seems to have no repsect for the law, certainly has no ethics. He should drop out and saves us and his business from a nasty recall. What a poser. Between him and Marco I now have two kooks to drop in on.
Public Works Director Pruim need to go. terible judgement.
ReplyDeleteCompletely clueless
Public Works Director Pruim needs to go.
ReplyDeleteTree hater, car hater, bike hater.
Better options presented in down town, better options presented downtown for vehicles, Better options presented on every road resurfaced.
Pruim is a loser. Losers should be fired. They are at will.
Fire Glen Pruim.
Cleansing at City Hall starts at the top with department heads. Manjeet Ranu should be first to go. Let's hope he already put his resume out. Mike Strong takes his orders from Ranu. Both were at the rail corridor advisory group meeting on Thursday. Mike was his normal self. Manjeet looked like he was in a funk -- head down and never smiling.
ReplyDeleteDump Muir!!
ReplyDeleteMuir named head of SAN Diego Water authority.
Muir has continuously lied to the public regarding a water shortage. There is not now nor has there ever been a water shortage. The false shortage is/was designed to raise rates.
Now the head liar leads the water authority. Payback for a job well done eh Mark??
Kick Muir out of office so the SD Water authority finds a new head liar.
Attention fellow citizens! Everyone should know what went down late this past week after one of 'off the rail] folks castigated Catherine for having her signs on the public right of way.
ReplyDeleteMany of her signs were illegally removed in the middle of the night a day after this Gaspar proponent went after Catherine at the council meeting.
Code enforcement is the only one legally permitted to remove campaign signs from the right of way and they never do so in the middle of the night.
The height of hypocritical thinking is evident, since so many of their candidates have their overly large signs plastered all over town on the public right of way and none of those are being removed.
You may ask why doing the same as they have done would not be appropriate. Taking the higher ground is always easier. They have chosen to take the low road and, considering who runs their campaigns that we all know only too well, nothing is much of a surprise.
Code enforcement is the only one permitted to remove signs illegally posted on the right of way. If one were to point out all of the Muir and Gaspar and Phil signs that should come down, our streets would look barren.
It is to our credit that we have not gone after them like they have done to Catherine.
Let them have all of their signs wherever they want. For the rest of us, please try to post these on private property by permission of the homeowners. If these disappear for some reason, duh, if the middle of the night, please let us all know here on EU.
This is the way forward with honor. We will and should not stoop to their level in retribution. The retribution will come from us, the voters. Peace out.
Measure T signs disappearing left and right. City can't take the heat it created.
ReplyDeleteThe Measure T signs must be with the missing Blakespear signs that disappeared in the middle of the night a few days ago all over our community.
ReplyDeleteOne thing is certain. It was not code enforcement.
They must be desperate and know that they are about to lose big time. How else would one explain the attack only mode they in? Then again, with their known puppet masters, they have little else to work with.
So, now Paul says he knows more about city happenings than the rest of us.
ReplyDeleteIs this the same Paul we saw at the last candidate forum?
He must have made a large step forward since then.
Will we see a brand new Paul at the forum this week?
Will we see a new Paul from last weeks Alison St. John PBS radio interview from a few days ago? He sounded like the same Paul we saw last month.
I suppose a few days could make a difference. We will see. His handlers must be busy these days trying to fashion their puppet.
Paul knows more because of Kristen? Whew. That is rich. And delusional. We will see in a few days.
Apparently, he doesn't know Catherine wasn't in office when Pacific View was purchased.
DeletePaul GASpar is running a dirty campaign. The man has no political experience. so to cover it up, he lashes out at his opponent, Catherine Blakespear, spouting one lie after another.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the kind of man we need to be running our city. The "so-called doctor" can stick his stethoscope up his back end while parading around in his wife's heels.
I am happy to see that Catherine is taking the HIGH round, while the GASpars are taking the LOW road. We can't expect much more from these Trump lovers
Maybe it's a good thing someone else is raising and looking after their children.
Hey Paul, you need another pair of heels.
Paul and Kristen picture:
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If you were paying attention, you would have realized years ago that she spells it Kristin.
DeleteThe UT reported that Gaspar's Supervisoral campaign is one of the most heavily funded in the county races. The money comes from the developers, the Lincoln club and other business interests in the conservative business camp. She is the bride of Franken$tock$, created to pave the way for the green lighting of all the proposed housing developments thru-out the county. She avoided debates, as she is too stupid to discuss or understand the issues, other than what she is told. The Gaspars are shameless opportunists, who will do the bidding of their masters - the greedy developers like DCM and others. Watch for the intense campaign blitz in the coming weeks; Roberts needs to react soon, or he may lose. That will be a tragedy for the county, as Bimbo will open the flood gates for the destruction of the last of the remaining open spaces.
ReplyDeleteKri$tin Ga$par is a fraud. $he needs to lose to end her political ambition$ once and for all.
DeleteIt was Manjeet who was supposed to respond to Bruce, 10:57. It is Manjeet's neck that should be on the line.
ReplyDeleteBoth Pruim and Manjeet need to go. Too much poor judgement decisions and lack of good leadership skills for our City. The City Manager needs to clean house to allow City Hall to repair public image and start acting in a transparent manner.
ReplyDeleteBoth my Blakespear and No on T signs were stolen. I live very close to the NoRailTrail group, or what is left of them. There are only about 6 hard core haters in the group. You may have seen one of them in oral communications last week at the City Council meeting. He was attempting to shame Blakespear. Go figure. If she hadn't flipped the trail would be on the east side.
ReplyDeleteOur Clinton Kaine yard sign was stolen this weekend (didn't last 3 hours) and it was right next to a Blakespear sign - and that thing is still there........go figure.....
ReplyDelete- The Sculpin
Sculpin, I'm very disappointed that you are not using an electronic sign. Electronic signs can be used for years and are a one time only degradation to the environment. The paper/plastic sign will need to be recycled at additional costs to the environment. Shame on you. You can buy electronic yard signs on Amazon.
DeleteAn Applegate sign was vandalized. Issa's group is resorting to a smear campaign, dragging up a contentious divorce. The ex-wife has recently stated that there are no issues between them currently and that she will vote for her ex-husband. Issa is desperate, as this is going to be a close vote. I won't vote for Issa because of this dirty tactic.
ReplyDeletePaul Gaspar doesn't stand a chance - his lack of experience and arrogant style will turn people off.
ReplyDelete6:13- That would be true if he did not have the Lincoln Club and all of their money behind him. If we want Catherine to win, we must help her in any way that we legally can.
DeleteThe bigger fish to fry is Kristin Gaspar - if she is elected Supervisor, the damage she will do to the county's open space will last generations. Even tot he established communities that are struggling with reasonable growth control - Gaspar will the developers determine the regional policies. She is dangerous to a way of life - that being not sold out to special interests whose only motivation is profit above the public good.
DeleteVote against all Gaspars!
If you get a chance, read the GasparGazette. It's a hoot. If you can't find the link, I read it on Encinitas Votes, and that link EU has put back up.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gaspargazette.net/
DeleteThey're nuts...
DeleteWoke up this morning on Neptune. Mild santa annas... what do I hear?
ReplyDeleteThe roar of straightpipes ripping thtrough out City neighborhoods and then fling down I5 with full 100 DBs blaring. Amplifying FUCK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO LIVE 1 MILE OF ANYWHERE I DRIVE!!!!!!
This is the scumb bag mentally we are dealing with.
City Elected officials need to direct the City Manager to begin enforcing the California Vehicle Code (CVC) in Encinitas and ticketing violators. City Elected officials also need to start a collition with other north coastal Cities with a message to the state DMV and Highway Patrol requesting that they begin enforcing the CVC.
This is ridiculous. I never see cops ticketing anyone on City streets or the freeway. What are they doing all day?? City Council needs to ask the city manager and the captain of the Sheriffs assigned to Encinitas.
You are correct, the situation is absurd at this point. These straight pipe riders are a really inconsiderate group and the sheriffs do zero.
DeleteWhat good does posting here about this do? Zero. Nada. Zilch. Have you called the sheriff's station on El Cam Real? Have you called or posted to the city manager? Have you called or posted to the council members? Have you spoken during oral communications at a council meeting?
DeleteSame as your blog post things. Sharing information . What do you post about side bitching about other people's posts?
DeleteWhy does a post about dumb fucker want-a-bes with straight pipe bother you so much ?
Hits home huh?
Nope. It's your stupidity and inaction that's bothersome. If you want a remedy, talk to the people who might actually be able to produce a remedy. All you're doing by posting here is ranting and showing your lack of willingness to do something that might get results. Stop being such a wimp.
DeleteBig words from a complainer of others. Quite your whining. All these comments are on sharing optinions. You go talk to council or city manager. See how far that gets you.... ha!!!
DeleteHey straight pipe dude - are you sure that's not the train whistle you hear? Does that also make you insane? More insane.....
DeleteStraight pipe dude: You're gotten nowhere by bitching and whining on this blog, so why not call the sheriff's department captain in Encinitas, and post to or call the city manager and council members to lodge your complaint? Taking action just worked for the people who wanted to save the ficus trees downtown, so it might work for you. Then you could brag about your success instead of annoying and boring readers here with your bitching and whining.
DeleteYou know what I heard tonight? Straightpipes Roaring down the road with no cop in sight. If fact, I haven't seen a cop in Encinitas giving a ticket in like 4 years. Do we have cops in Encinitas?
DeleteI know we have plenty of whimpy A-holes wantabees - Just read 7:19 above. Pure disrespectful idiot.
Nope, no cops in Encinitas, but there are sheriff's deputies.
DeleteWhat 9:19 lacks is a working brain. He's just a wimpy wannabe not bright enough to even know slang.
Two cops defined as sheriff deputy's. You are so smart . I bet you even graduated high school !!! Wow an educated person . Keep up the good work .
Delete-- Encinitas sheriffs and California Highway Patrol should take it all violators . City manager and counsel are not doing the citizens justice .
Cardiff signs for Gaspar have only to do with the rail trail. How to peel these voters off him and look at the bigger picture: Gaspar = development without end is the challenge.
ReplyDelete7:41- How many Cardiff signs for Gaspar have you seen. The ones I have seen are on Vulcan where the 6 or 7 rogue NoRailtrail haters live. They would probably vote for Gaspar anyway, as their houses are quite large, indicating a lot of money. I haven't seen any anywhere else, and I live in Cardiff. I have a Blakespear sign (or did have until it was stolen) and most of my neighbors have Blakespar as well. I don't think you can peel off those Gasparians, as they are a group unto themselves. If you recall there were 1500 people that signed the petition for the No Rail Trail on the east side. Paul says he has been on it from the beginning, but from what I have heard, he didn't sign the petition. So exactly when did he see the opportunity to make in roads with this group? Inquiring minds want to know, but I only know of one person who has the whole list.
ReplyDeleteSounds like Dr. Lori again! Please just post your name already. You don't fool us wiith your sporadic and nonsensical post. Oh yeah, I live in Cardiff and 8 of my neighbors Gaspar signs were stolen. It must be Blakespear doing it!
Delete11:44- Is everything wrong in this town blamed on Dr. Lori. I have never met her, because I am new to Encinitas. Someone turned me on to this blog and it seems like everytime something someone doesn't like it gets blamed on this person. Who is she? And why is she so devisive to some?
Delete11:53 Go meet her and then come to your own conclusions.
Delete11:53-This is Lorri Greene, aka Dr. Lorri. I did not post 8:06, but I will tell you that I have posted on this blog. There are a few people, or perhaps many, who see me as either stupid, a threat, a drug addict, you name it, and they have probably posted it. Truth is this: I am a psychologist by profession. I moderate the Facebook group, Encinitas Votes. I have lived in Cardiff for 35 years and have been active in politics most of that time, although I have never run for City Council. I was a Parks and Recreation Commissioner for 6 years and then I needed a break. I was one of the original signers of the NORailTrail petition asking for it to be moved from the East to the West side of the tracks, and yes, I do have the list of the 1500 plus people who also signed. I paid for it by doing a CPRA request to the City, as anyone else can do. That's about it for now. Now, watch the haters come out with their usual stuff about me. In fact, if you stay on this blog long enough, you will understand that I must be some kind of a menace at the ripe old age of 69. I take it as a personal compliment that some people on this blog dislike me. And,, of course, I know who they are. Posting anonymously these days is silly, as it is very easy to find who is posting what. Hopefully, you now know who I am. What I stand for is: transparency in our government, polite and respectful discourse, making sure our city does not become home to all that we hate in Orange County, and fighting for our community. How that is done differs depending on who you ask. Lorri Greene, Ph.D., Psychologist.
ReplyDelete12:)9 Crawl back in your hole "shrink". Most of us don't care who you are, what you stand for, what you do, or what you don't do.
DeleteAny one that continually has to define who they are can not be worth much.
You really need to get some writing skills. Do us a favor and stay on your own blog.
1:16 PM Use the singular pronoun, unless you have multiple personalities.
Delete1:16- I have 5 words that I think describes you quite nicely "You Are A Complete Asshole".
DeleteMGB
1:16
Deleteis a little early to be bending the elbow so deeply.
3:56 Am I supposed to be offended? I think NOT.
Delete11:44/1:16/4:28 is the Thunderhole.
DeleteThat's some 180 proof Barstow, right there.
4:28 PM
DeleteI'm not 3:56 PM but self-awareness usually isn't a strong suit for assholes such as yourself. Next to you I'll take her any day.
It's the duo of Thunderhole and Swamper aka Swanner. Egged on by none other the the man who thinks he should be mayor and the man who was ousted from the city council a long time ago and is still trying to be relevant. Hang in there Lorri. You are better than all of them put together.
DeleteIs that Cap'n Blotto - Squinky eyed $tock$? He lower than a barnacle scraped off the bilge pump! His protege is running for supervisor - another barnacle.
Delete4:28- of course you're not Julie. That's why it's so silly.
DeleteBless your heart Dr. Lorrie. Thanks for your courage that others only wish they had.
ReplyDeleteThese others are close and working with the worst council member our city has had in its short life. $sssss$ That the off the rails group knew this and still aligned with this mean drunk and and known verbal abuser, says more about them than anything they could express toward you.
Dr. Lorrie marched with MLK and was one of the impassioned groups of people who went to the South to register voters in areas where such action got people hung and burned alive. Mississippi Burning ring a bell?
She was treated horribly by $ssss$ and had a justified case against this despicable cretin, but chose the higher road and let him off.
Dr. Lorrie, we are honored to have you in our community. How anyone could disparage your efforts, shows them to be at the same low evolutionary level as 'his lowness' and his best buddy Mikey.
They know no bounds of decency and only wish they could approach your dedication to others welfare throughout your life. They are in it for themselves and have always been.
The contrast between the givers and the takers couldn't be more clear.
5:12- Are you kidding me? Lori no more marched with MLK than I did with Hitler. As far as Stocks, she had it coming. She egged him on by flirting with him, getting him drunk, and then tried to say he tried to get in bed with her. She never sued him and if she had a case she would have. I bet she even asked Marco if she could sue and he probably said no, it's your fault. The only nice thing I can think of to say about her is I had a buddy who lost his dog and she did help him thru his grief. Not sure how she helped, but he thinks she is great. now I question my buddies sanity but he's not a half bad dude so I figure he can make one dumb move. She gave him her book about pet loss and signed it "in loving memory of Frodo, his dog" That is just sick. When people write books about how to deal with their dog dying I gotta wonder about what the hell is going on with her. And, she managed to get it published, by a self-help company of course. She has done noting for Encinitas except try to get Sabine out of office. He's a great guy and everytime she gets a chance she tries to screw him. So don't give the newcomer some B.S. story about how wonderful she is.She is a traitor. Just ask the rail trail group.
DeleteWow you say that like sabine has done something worthwhile for Encinitas. You are truly misinformed.
DeleteAsk the rail trail group?
DeleteYou mean the ones who hijacked a 1500 person single-issue non-partisan group and turned it into a partisan hack club with a half dozen members?
The ones who setup a discussion group over a month ago and only one person signed up?
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1618790885086389?view=info&refid=18
That group?
Here we go again. Trolls are a trollin'. Quite a tall tale, 10:23. Or a buncha tall tales.
Delete10:23- Are you effing kidding me? Stocks was forced to drink alcohol by Dr. Lori and then she cam on to him, asking him to go to bed with her? Do I have it right? If so, take a look in the mirror and see what kind of Kool Aid you've been drinking. Everyone is town knows Stocks drinks a lot, and everyone in town knows what a jackass he can be. I can see it now. Dr. L goes up to Stocks, hands him a double scotch or whatever and asks him to go to bed with her. Buddy, you do realize how stupid that sounds I hope. If not, I suggest you check yourself into a rehab or something because it is so over the top it's ridiculous. I have never met Dr. Lori and I know it's over the top. As for Sabine, you think he is a great guy. Care to provide some facts to back it up? Come on man, if you want to diss her be my guest, but at least make it credible.
DeleteNeither Stocks nor Dr. Lori are running for election. So although she responded to some stuff on the blog, let's pretend for one moment we have a shred of class and dignity and let it drop. We have a real election in a month..
Delete-MGJ
I am interested in what happened to Mike Strong. There are conflicting reports that he was fired and that he left for greener pastures.
ReplyDeleteEither way, he is not leaving empty-handed. He has been handling the Housing Element and all of its various flawed iterations for at least six years. He has gotten paid close to $100,000 per year and will leave with six years of pension credit that he can start collecting at age 55. Not bad for a guy who oversaw the biggest clusterf--- in Encinitas history!
Mike was paid more than $500,000, and there has been at least $4 million spent on other consultants and outreach for the project that most hope will go down in flames this November. Vote NO on Measure T, and vote to clean out Encinitas Planning!
This what taxpayers' money is wasted on - pathetic!
DeleteGettimg out before the indictments.
DeleteDoes anyone get the idea that government is just a way for individuals to enrich themselves? Ga$par$ come to mind.
Delete7:17- I'm shocked, shocked I say. You mean there is corruption at City Hall?
DeletePower outage at Encinitas/Target shopping center. City suffers thousands in lost tax revenue...
ReplyDeletePower outage continued on both sides of El Camino south to just before Vons shopping center.
DeleteOne big blackout!
You ain't seen nothing yet.....
DeleteSo happy to see that the trolls who have been giving Lorri a ration of s**t for no good reason are now getting some of their own medicine.
ReplyDeleteWhat happen did straightpipes set off so many alarms they blew SDGE switchgear?
ReplyDeleteDam City needs to start enforcing State Vehicle Code Laws. Pathetic.
Uh, that would be the sheriff's department.
Delete9:22,
DeleteIf you have tried random commenting on a blog and it's not working (and really, shouldn't that be enough?), perhaps it's time to contact Jay Santos at the Citizens Auxiliary Police.
9:22- THE Jay Santos ?? The one that takes a peak over the shoulder of law enforcement??
DeleteThe Pride of Torrance, Ca?
DeleteJay Santos should definitely setup a checkpoint for exhaust noise inspection.
DeleteFood provided by Ted's...
DeleteThe housing element seems to be a non issue for Carlsbad. Why are we in Encinitas so F-cked up?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thecoastnews.com/2016/09/29/early-report-shows-carlsbad-meeting-its-housing-needs/
One word....LIBERALS!
DeleteCarlsbad has more vacant and underutilized land. Encinitas is built out, more like Solana Beach or Del Mar. This means that we have to upzone to add infill units, where Carlsbad has to convert vacant land.
Delete8:38,
DeleteMark and Kristin both support Measure T. Grunt twice if you understand.
I suppose 8:38's definition of LIBERAL is someone who actually pays attention to what's going on and participates in the process. you know, the naysayers, trouble makers, insurgents, ect.
DeleteThe 29 obstructionists are liberals for sure. They're not gullible, don't swallow the city's BS, and they fight to preserve the qualities that make Encinitas a great place to live.
DeleteOh no... not this again ^^^^^^
ReplyDeleteGO AWAY
ReplyDeleteMuir states his political platform as promoting pension reform! In what alternate reality did that occur?? This guy is either in the Twilight Zone or let $tock$ write his voter booklet statement. He needs to go!
ReplyDeleteMuir is nothing more than a pension hog. This guy is obviously out to lunch. He sat through most council meetings with nothing to say. Now, at election time, he comes alive.
DeleteWhat a political hack!
It's because staff fucked it all up
ReplyDelete1:09- Staff is only as good as the leadership. So, I would say the leadership in this City leaves a lot to be desired. If I were King, I would fire a lot of the City Managers, as they are "at will" and not union. I would definitely demand staff to answer citizens questions, no matter whether they want to or not. What happened to Bruce just should not happen. You may not like Bruce, but the fact is the city did not respond to him and that is not legal. Any CPRA request must be responded to, by law, within 10 working days. And yet, Bruce, waited longer than that before taking it to oral communications. There is no excuse that makes this right or legal. I have no idea why they didn't respond, but the attitude at City Hall, unless you are a developer, or a VIP of some sort (thinking of Gaspar and her relationship with the Mizels) is "screw the public. We don't have to respond". That's because of a lack of consequences and that is directly related to Managers.
DeleteThe answer to why the city didn't respond to Bruce Ehlers is simple. The city never admits they are wrong. To answer Ehlers the city would have had to say that he is correct and the city is wrong.
DeleteBut the non-answer is an answer. If the city could challenge Ehlers on any of his points, they would have done it at the very beginning. They couldn't. Staff and council always quickly pounce on anyone who is wrong.
My guess is they will respond indirectly.
DeleteIt would be bad form for the city to engage in a back and forth with someone who is a declared advocate for the no side. If the city thinks the voters are being fed incorrect information, then the city is within its rights to communicate the correct facts directly to the voters.
I believe staff is not responding to avoid spending staff resources on discussing ballot measure's, Measure T or otherwise.
DeleteEhlers' was a yes/no question prompted by Council claims that the No on T folks are lying.
DeleteNo back and forth required, as all Ehlers asked was "Do I have it wrong?" Again, yes/no was all that was required.
Ehlers has his answer; 7:22 has it right. The City would've yelled from the rooftops had Ehlers made a mistake. No response means he did not.
City worker/shill/councilmember 2:47's "bad form" nonsense is SOP at City Hall when THEY are caught in a lie.
Vote NO on T.
12:41-
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it !!
You know our cities attitude well ....
It's up to the city Council and city manager to change the dictatorship style of imperialistic leadership that says screw the public !!!
If the city manager can't do it fire her and get someone who can !
Fire her? She's doing exactly what the Council hired her to do. They're not going to fire her, she's doing juuuussst fine. She and Manjeet are goooood.
DeleteGood point. I am not voting for one incumbent. They all suck
ReplyDeleteIf Blakespear is elected Mayor, her seat will be open. The majority of three will pick their own special favorite just as they did with Mark Muir without a vote of the people. But, definitely, Kranz shouldn't be re-elected.
ReplyDeleteYes, and then they'll have a 4-seat supermajority so they can bring back the sales tax increase!
DeleteAssuming Kranz and Muir are reelected (likely, based on name recognition).
DeleteThe right wing slate would need to run the table on the mayor and Shaffer's open seat to have a majority. Kranz and Blakespear would become the minority bloc.
If those two seats split with Blakespear winning the mayor, and Graham winning the other seat, then council is split two-two, which would make filling Blakespear's council chair very interesting and difficult. It might stay un-filled for a while.
If Gaspar wins mayor and Tasha wins Shaffer's seat, then basically nothing changes, as Muir and (the other) Gaspar stay in the minority.
Get Kranz out of there. Free spender and no ability as a leader.
DeleteThe council picks a person for an open seat? It should be a person that ran, but was the next one with the most votes that didn't win a seat in the election.
DeleteThe sitting council members picked Muir when Maggie Houlihan passed away.
Delete10:29,
DeleteCouncil vote fills vacancy. If Blakespear wins mayor, then her council seat becomes vacant on the day she is sworn in as mayor.
I'm with you that in this circumstance, the candidate with the most votes should get the spot by rule. But since that's not the rule, council can make any motion they want and vote on it.
I don't blame them for playing the game by the rules we have. But the rules should be changed.
I'm voting No on Prop T and Yes for Tony Brandenburg.
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