Friday, March 3, 2017

No, Millenials don't want to live in high-density urban apartments

We're often told by Smart Growthers that Millenials want to live in urban apartments.

The reality? Not really. Union-Tribune:
“We definitely want a house because we want to have dogs,” she said. “And kids someday.”

Hataishi’s hopes aren’t far off from her peers. A pair of studies released this week suggests that the majority of millennials want to live in the suburbs, have already started buying outside urban areas, and base their homebuying decisions mainly on affordability.

Reports by Zillow and Harvard break with stereotypes of America’s largest generation, namely that they prefer to rent because they favor experiences over building equity and want to live in urban environments.

23 comments:

  1. The "American Dream" is a detached house with a front and back yard. After WWII this was made possible by postwar housing tracts and the adoption of automobiles as the means of transportation to and from the suburbs. Apartment living was considered a short-term solution on the way to a house. Things don't seem to have changed.

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  2. Unless they have SANDOG doing out the developers fondest wishes for us all to abide by.
    This dude does not abide by much of anything that comes from SANDOG.

    Our city needs to grow a spine and hold them accountable or else tell them to take a hike and drop out and join with other municipalities who could impress upon them what we have chosen not to do.

    Yet.

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  3. I meant doling out the false population projections that SANDOG pushes down our throats.

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  4. Another nail in SANDAG's coffin. Even Lorena
    Gonzales is making noise about more SANDAG oversite.

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  5. Anybody with common sense (that wouldn't include anybody in government) knew that the blather about millennials wanting to live in little boxes and ride their bikes everywhere was total BS.

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    1. Agree, 5:20. And even those of us who do enjoy riding our bikes, don't imagine that we would give up our cars. The vast majority of people don't find it practical to bike to work, or to use a bicycle for shopping excursions.

      Less than one percent of people, locally, use bicycles to commute to work.

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    2. Blather bought and happily repeated by Barth and Shaffer in their failed attempts to convince voters that stack n' pack is the future.

      With Blakespear worshipping at Shaffer's ill-informed feet, will be interesting to see if she too pushes the "millennials want to live like sardines" lie in the next HEU.

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    3. Not every young person in Encinitas has the benefit of living in a valuable family property like Blakespear and her family. None of them can speak for what millenials want since Blakespear did not buy her own house, Barth is certainly not a millenial and has no children herself, and Shaffer is not a millenial yet lives in a huge house with her and her husband. The high-density units that developers have put on market do not have anyone in mind except for themselves and their bottom lines. The high-density projects have not addressed the affordability problem at all.

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    4. If you are going to attack individuals, then do it cleanly across the board. The people most irate about all of this housing stuff can't even afford their homes at market value today. They bought their homes 20 years ago, when it was for $300,000. Do you make $175,000 a year to afford a $900,000 home?

      Sorry, I forgot that this blog is filled with elitists. At least the individuals you mention did some service to this community, for better or worse. They at least did their time.

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    5. "for better or worse. They at least did their time." The way you talk about Barth, Shaffer and Blakespear makes it sound like they paid a debt to society.

      The individuals mentioned above do not themselves live as they say others want to live, so accusations of elitism should not be thrown around so carelessly. Elitism to me are the developers and tools of the developers who push through harmful projects that maximize returns at the expense of the environment, traffic, and other negative impacts that hurt surrounding residents. Why not support projects that are less intensive? That is what Encinitas voters continuously ask for.

      A large majority of Encinitas votersoppose the high density agenda based on the recent Measure T election results. No matter how much they push this agenda, more and more Encinitas voters are becoming informed and will vote against it in higher and higher numbers.

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    6. 9:27 Attacking cleanly across the board is the opposite of attacking individuals. One is general, the other is specific.

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    7. So are you saying that council members who misrepresent or betray voters can't e held to account? Is it attacking to expose their lies? What alternative do you recommend?

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  6. SANDAG smart growth means give the developers everything they want so they can ruin the current residents quality of life.

    How about the infrastructure needed for all this added development. Which has not happened so far - so why should we believe them now! Shame on us for believing them in the first place.

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    1. Don't developers pay for infrastructure? I don't understand??

      The new homes down the street from me put in really nice sidewalks....

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  7. They were never intended for millennials. There a completely different agenda (21) in play. These are "settlements".

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    1. or vacation rentals, 2nd homes, or rentals

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    2. Off topic but...Rhino Art is closing March 31st.
      Good place for another bar!! Plenty of parking right by the railroad tracks!

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    3. What happened to Rhino Art - a lack of business?

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  8. A moratorium is not near enough of a solution, even if it slows down the final approval process of more bars. This allows all who desire to apply and gets them their up front seats for granting the license of bar after unending bar.

    This includes all of those who try to call themselves restaurants, while staying open to 2am. What a complete crock.

    Anyone want to take a bet that Rhino Art won't become another bar?

    How many new businesses have opened in the last couple of years that are not bar related? I am sure this is in the public record, but I haven't heard any relative numbers given out.

    One thing we can be assured of is, our Planning Dept. will bend over and say, thank your sir, may I have another. Argh!!!!!!!!!

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  9. What great leadership from our City.... turn a cool family/ health related town to a complete shallow bar town like Huntington Beach or PB.

    Sickening. If there were any candidates that were supporting a moratorium on bars, I would have voted for them.

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  10. Argumentative points across the board for millennials. For every article that you show me about one trend, I can show you another.

    Some people want MF and some people want SF. The reality? There is no more SF to build. The region is forcing itself inward. There is a growth boundary to Encinitas.

    And don't forget about the seniors.

    We are transitioning whether you like it or not. You've got yours, enjoy it.

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    1. When all this affordable housing is built so we can all live where we want to live perhaps I can realize my lifelong dream to exit Encinitas and move to Riverside.

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    2. But not what our councils have been forcefeeding us for a number of years now: the lie that ALL millennials want to live in stack n'pack. And that the stack n'pack should happen here.

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