After years of wrangling, piecemeal measures and mounting uproar from neighbors along the Coast Highway 101 corridor, the Encinitas City Council on Wednesday, April 19, signed onto a package of sweeping reforms to the way restaurants and bars manage their on-site alcohol service.
The wide-ranging package of reforms includes: Alcohol service to stop 10 p.m. along the coastal corridor, with later cutoffs if bars prove their good behavior; establish a noise ordinance downtown and update the standards elsewhere; stiffer fines for code violations; and measures to curb party buses and the long lines of patrons waiting to get into bars.
But for the coalition of residents who have railed against the changing tone of the coastal corridor, the most important aspect is the “deemed approved ordinance,” which will allow the city to enforce nuisance codes according to uniform standards across the city.
Thursday, April 20, 2017
Council moves to crack down on problem bars
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Its about fricken time.
ReplyDeleteWhen did the City Council decide to tell the Staff better follow the lead or they will go and get someone who will implement council's objectives?
Good Job City Council. Keep up the positive change.
"Staff" just saw a bunch of untouchables canned so likely not as uppity against residents as they might otherwise have been.
DeleteDon't count the chickens yet. Council has to vote yes on the ordinance.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Phony Tony still available for influence.
DeleteFor many years now residents have requested action on the bars. We are not going away! I'm sure the council will adopt something strong and we are focused on them doing so.
DeleteImplement more than the DAO, such as what Dennis Holz and his Encinitas Citizens group has proposed. We need them all.
ReplyDeleteThe bar owner of the Saloon and Daily Double, along with the former? PB bar owner of the Union and now what was once the Roxy, are the problem. They profit while our downtowns demographics deteriorate to the point where longtime locals and young people want to have nothing to do with going down there after sunset. Vibrancy my keister. Complete bs.
It is about time. Just hearing these two spout the effectiveness of the Encinitas Hospitality Association and still trying to defeat the DAO, was laughable, if it wasn't such complete crap. All that group was ever good for was to serve as a delaying tactic for where we finally are at now. That some council members bought into it back then, is on them.
Save our downtown. We are better than what these profiteers have brought down upon us. Close them all down at midnight and stop serving alcohol even earlier, if that is what it takes.
Our young people and longtime residents should be able to feel safe downtown after sunset and they do not. A brave young high school woman had the courage to stand up and speak before the council a few months ago about the fact that she and her friends feel targeted by bar patrons walking around our downtown. This is what these bar owners/so-called restaurants that morph into bars have brought to our community.
It is about time. Save our downtown from anymore of this trend. The saturation point has been left in the past. No more bars/or restaurants that morph into the same.
Not that is it a surprise to anyone, our own dark knight has signed on to defend these owners. The owners have the dough to hire legal representation and their money talks to Marco, where a soul should reside.
It is about time council.
Thank God you crybabies don't own downtown. If the area is intolerable, move to a gated community.
DeleteHow about we stay were we are. and controll the landuse for our City.
DeleteThat sounds more logical. r
Amen! F these fascist nannies who live downtown, go back to New York City or Cleveland!
Delete11:28am You can do this community a favor and go back to PB or Huntington Beach. You are the problem and must be a recent citizen to what was once special about Encinitas.
ReplyDeleteThose of us who have a history here know better of what has been lost by you and your mindset, whatever is left of your mind, that is. You surely have no conscience or the ability to see why there has been a public outcry.
Encinitas is a treasure and many of us intend to preserve what we can from your kind.
Oh please 3:08 - please stop being so frickin' binary!! What's with this "your kind" garbage. Change is inevitable and sometimes it doesn't go our way. While I applaud your and other like-minded folks efforts in all this, the end result will not be to go back to a day when there were only two bars in town. No, the end result will be to manage the change so that the desires of both old and new residents can be met amicably. One certainty is that our new residents moved to Encinitas for very different reasons than most of us who've been here for 40+ years.......
Delete- The Sculpin
The "change is inevitable" kind.
DeleteYou know what that translates to, don't you, Sculpin? "I'm gonna sit back and not lift a finger and not get engaged in what goes on in my town and later when the place is a carbon copy of Huntington Beach I'm gonna wax all poetic about how things used to be."
Followed by "but change is inevitable." Some, yes. All? Not on your life.
7:35 - first off, we'll never be like Huntington Beach. It's 2 very different cultures. Second, I never "wax poetic about how things used to be". I have fond memories but I certainly never "want to go back". Always look forward, always try new things, add chapters to your book of life!
DeleteBesides, if you think I'm not engaged, you don't know where to look.....
- The Sculpin
3;38- Scupin- Oh wise one. Why did the newer people move here, since you seem to know the answers. I have lived here 30 years and I know why I moved here. So what do the newbies want?
ReplyDeleteThey want a safe and secure place to raise their kids, convenient shopping opportunities and close to transportation corridors. Back in the day, the kids were left to their own devices until sundown, the I-5 was just built replacing a 2 lane country road, and if you wanted something special you had to drive downtown or use mail order. We've gone from semi-rural to urban - and we're just not going back to that.
Delete- The Sculpin
Let's bring change to Olivenhain. Let's rezone RSF Road through Olivenhain so it can be lined with bars and strip joints.
DeleteWe are not urban we are a sleepy beach town. We were fine the way we were. Of course change happens but why the manic pace? I didn't move here because I wanted "urban" and I don't think most others did. I live 2 miles from downtown and there is shitload of noise code violations here too. We obviously don't even have the resources needed to manage this kind of growth. I avoid downtown day and night it is depressing now.
DeleteDowntown in congested, choked, strained to the max. Parking is packed on 101, 2nd and even 3rd Sts. This is what the council and 101 Main call "vibrant."
DeleteYou want the city life? Move there.
DeleteYou don't move the city to you. The rest of us won't have it.
Maybe they come here for Quality of Life, including (gasp) bars and restaurants.
ReplyDeleteQuality of Life
Everyone raves about Southern California’s climate—for good reason. You know a place is perfect when 50-degree temps at dawn, the occasional spell of rain, or a few weeks of overcast skies come June are grounds for complaint among the locals. Plus, there are tons of great bars, restaurants, and eateries, and a “bro-ette” for every bro. The only real quality-of-life drawback: the crowds. But if you weigh the pluses (good weather, winds, and waves) with the minuses (too many people), the population density starts to make sense.
I doubt it.
DeleteBottom feeder.
ReplyDeleteNever mind.
You are a waste of any consideration.
Why do you even bother? I
It is obvious where you stand in relation to anyone wanting to preserve what attracted us all here to begin with.
Your Olivenhain enclave entitles you to your unaffected living space. For others that give a sheet, not so much. You are irrelevant. You have yours. Others that are personally impacted want to do something, anything, to preserve this specialness. You area able to hide from a reality that most of use are dealing with.
It is pointless for us to want to anything from your perspective. Lucky you.
Scul-pinhead is his new moniker.
Delete"It is pointless for us to want to anything from your perspective."
DeleteNot so! However, I do believe it is pointless to want things to stay as they are over long periods of time. We all get to choose what change we are willing to accept in our lives, but just because we don't choose it for ourselves doesn't mean it's not going to happen anyway. You seem to think Olivenhain is somewhat immune to this issue, but I remind you that there was no Wildflower, Double LL, Copper Crest, Knightsbridge or Country Rose communities in the '70's. Hasn't Olivenhain lost some of its specialness too?
Here's a little ditty I learned back in grade school - (interesting that we learned everything we needed to be good citizens by the 3rd grade...)...
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
- The Sculpin
Encinitas is becoming pretty stale and uninteresting.
ReplyDeleteI've been here only a short time, 5 years, and have seen all there is to see. Nothing new.
Do move on, why don't you? 5 years is nothing. You only know what has been degraded by the vibrancy demographics tax revenue incentive.
ReplyDeleteOthers who have been here decades know well what has been lost and don't like it one bit.
Perhaps if you go beyond the bars, you might find our community more interesting and not stale at all.
Sculpin. Yes change is inevitable, but it can be directed. Doing nothing but accepting it simply leaves the direction to others.
ReplyDeleteScul-pinhead. Thanks for the that. It fits.
ReplyDeleteEncinitas Guerilla nailed it yesterday about this bottom feeding variety. Check it out, everybody for a good laugh. Ridicule is an appropriate response.
I love it!!!! Thanks EG for the honor of being a target of your satire!
Delete- The Sculpin
Scul pinhead, please take it to heart and grow from it.
ReplyDeleteIt has to be in you.
Perhaps you just like to be a contrarian.
Lets hope not, and that there is more going on within you than what your posts generally indicate.
Sculp is a rational and intelligent dude. You may not agree with him, but he'll never stoop to silly names.
DeleteHe gives respect, and deserves respect. How about you address his opinions and thoughts without resorting to fourth-grade stuff?
pfffff....
ReplyDeleteOne can be rational and relatively intelligent and still be a bottom feeder, and this is not a reference to any kind of fish, like his chosen namesake.
ReplyDeleteHe has been off the mark so often when it relates to those of us that want to preserve this community's character from the despoilers and profiteers, that whatever response he has received is well earned.
It appears that he posts here for just that reaction. His energy could be better used if he would pull his head out of his posterior. He seems to like it in there. To each his own.