Dockless bike sharing, the novel idea that rolled out with a rough start in San Diego in February, could spread to North County coastal communities as soon as this summer.Related: Coronado declares dockless bikes a public nuisance.
Led by Encinitas, the proposed one-year pilot program may also include Del Mar, Solana Beach, Carlsbad, Oceanside, Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Base, and North County Transit District.
The short-term bicycle rentals are based on a phone app, like Uber and other ride-sharing programs. Renters can pick up their bike in one place, such as a bus stop or train station, and leave it someplace else, maybe parked on the sidewalk outside their workplace, anywhere within the company’s service area.
Bike sharing is seen as a way to get more cars off the road, reduce pollution and greenhouse gases, and encourage more people to get out of their vehicles and exercise.
“One of the things we are trying to solve is that first-last mile in transit,” said Crystal Najera, an Encinitas climate plan administrator leading the group project.
Monday, March 19, 2018
Encinitas hopes bike rentals will make people take public transit more
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Remember that shuttle service that the 101s ran a few years ago?
ReplyDeleteWaste with that - and a waste with this. All its going to do is clutter up our downtown streets with unused bikes.
Agreed 1:10. Hopefully City has a good exit clause and can get out without the other cities providing input. Who knows if it fails, but if it does, we should be protected.
DeleteHow about promoting negative population growth. Unfortunately our system is dependent on growth or it will collapse... much like cancer.
ReplyDelete2:27- Best comment our year .
ReplyDeleteToo bad it makes so much sense. People can’t understand it . Ha!!
These short term bike rentals that people can leave wherever are not a solution to anything. I was in South Bend, IN a couple of weeks ago and the green rental bikes were dumped everywhere. They amount to trash / eyesores. We have businesses in town that will rent a bike. Why not direct people to those companies? Do we really need to cater to the lowest common denominator? Can we leave that to downtown / San Diego?
ReplyDeleteWho will buy the phone for me?
ReplyDeleteWhy waste time and focus when the City should have completed the quiet zone through the whole City over five years ago.
ReplyDeleteThe City needs to quit acting like an ADD child. Focus on priority projects. Get the Quiet-zone finished now!
This is an outdated concept - may work in parts of Europe, but it won't work here. Plus, this area is not bike friendly - it is dangerous, even to be a pedestrian! Years ago, they did the "communal bike" approach at UC riverside. They bought a hundred or so beach cruiser-type bikes and deposited them on campus. Within 6 months, they were all "missing". End of concept.
ReplyDeleteThe same thing happened in Amsterdam during the 1970's-1980's. They were famous for their free white bikes.
DeleteIt is as though our city says--"this sounds like a neat idea.." then wastes our money.
Look for them to hire a new director of bikes!
Outdated concept - that's what everyone said when the first roundabout on Santa Fe went in. Looks like people figured out how to drive them.
DeleteComaparing roundabouts to bikes? Apples to oranges?
DeleteAnyone that leaves a bike at my property will find their bike in a dumpster!!!!! Enough abandoned bikes around town. Unrideable eyesores.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes these bike-share bikes "unrideable"?
DeleteOutdated concept - that's what everyone said when the first roundabout on Santa Fe went in. Looks like people figured out how to drive them.
DeleteDon't understand this point, 11:05 AM. Still to this day people don't know how to use the roundabout, including cyclists. Also, someone died at the roundabout a few years ago. Your argument could be applied to everything as if life would simple go on. And it does, with or without roundabouts.
DeleteShould we close hwy 101 to all motorists? As a analogy, people would still "figure out how" to get around.
You are trying to compare a physical change in the city to an operational change. The difference is that you are forced as a motorist or ped/bike to use the roundabout. You don't have any other choice unless you were to drive to another east west connector. The bike share program is about choice. A choice which is premised in social opportunity, but not well conceived.
Encinitas does not have to be the first one out of the gate for every issue. We have too many council pet, trophy projects - and not enough real work at city hall being done.
12:07, it's hard to tell if you're for or against the bikes. Because you're long winded and confusing. Encinitas is not the first out of the gate on this issue. Scroll up, apparently every other attempt at this has been a failure according to the commenters here anyway.
Delete12:07 talks out its butt. Yeah like people don’t know how to use a roundabout. Only about 100k per day everyday.
DeleteIf u can’t , turn in ur keys and use Uber.
12:07 responding...
DeleteI'm for bikes, but against this program. I have a bike, so don't need to see unused bikes taking up bike parking areas.
To 1:24, people don't know how to use a roundabout legally. But then again, some people don't know how to use regular intersections legally too. Yes, I am talking people on their bikes that blow through intersections, ride tandem, or even ride in crosswalks.
Encinitas isn't the first out of the gate, true. But hardly we have learned everything that there is to know about it. I suggest we slow down and focus on more important things. That's all. Not every bike rider is supporting this project.
1:24 says take a self-driving uber. That pilot program worked well too.
DeleteProbably still has a better track record than human-driving ubers.
DeleteMmm. maybe not.
DeleteThere has been 1 death resulting from 200 AV cars.
How many deaths from how human-driving cars? Compare ratio.
12:10 PM, since you seem to have the data, save all 4 of us commenting on this board a search.
DeleteCan the city give a date when all the existing crossings will operate as quietzones?
ReplyDeleteIf not, why mess with distractions?
I’ve been to a few cities where these dockless shared bikes have been rolled out (pun intended).
ReplyDeleteI can tell you from first hand experience that they are great. Lime bike has a great app—very easy and convenient to find and use a bike.
It’s possible that the negative comments here are from people who have never used bike sharing, fear new things, and are generally grumpy.
Does the city know hoe many people will use them? That seems like an obvious question to ask before "rolling" out a program.
DeleteOtherwise, I think one could argue (and someone above has) that it won't work out as expected.
1:30 - you are correct, I've never rented one of these bikes but I've seen them dumped and destroyed. It is not a sustainable program - these bikes get damaged, stolen, and generally abused - eventually making the product unsafe. Here again - rent from a local company that maintains their product.
ReplyDeletethere goes the local bike cruiser local businesses. Totally undercut by government subsidy.
ReplyDeleteChoose free enterprise. Gov should stay out of providing Recreational Programs for residents. Leave that to the experts like the YMCA, Boys and Girls Clubs and other more efficient non-profits.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/37771242/coronado-to-declare-dockless-bikes-a-public-nuisance
ReplyDeleteI think it might work in Carlsbad, where there are visitors and tourists, that arrive and stay there as a destination during the summer or holiday breaks. Hard to see it working in Encinitas, SB, or DM, for the opposite reasons. Our visitors come by car and are more local. There is no major lodging opportunities here.
ReplyDeleteI agree that there might be better areas than Encinitas. Need a large population, open to riding, that doesn't have access to cars.
DeleteMost bike advocates supporting this effort, advocate because they use their bike and think the world will be a better place. If they have a bike, they won't use a rental. So that means we are looking to the existing non-rider population. Or the group of people that end up somewhere and have no other way to get home. Maybe make a good bar and BUI scene.
Jury out. To be seen soon.
I'd rather see a pedi-cab. I bet more would use that.