As the fourth mayor and 23-year resident of the beautiful city of Encinitas, I am very concerned about the future Quality of Life of all residents if Proposition A is not approved by a majority of the Voters June 18.Slater-Price is an ally to Teresa Barth, Tony Kranz, and Lisa Shaffer. She supported Kranz and Shaffer's 2012 election, and Barth's in 2010. Their political views are very close. They all teamed up to support Dave Roberts over establishment favorite Steve Danon in the race to succeed Slater-Price as Supervisor. The council honored Slater-Price in January, with, as we seem to recall, a rather gushing tribute from Barth. It probably would not be going too far to say that Slater-Price is somewhat of a hero to Barth and her supporters.
The Encinitas Right to Vote Initiative is probably the most important issue to be placed before the voters since incorporation of Encinitas in October of 1986. [...]
So why the opposing views on this critical issue? We can think of three key differences: 1) Slater-Price has not been spun by Gus Vina, Rutan & Tucker, and city staff; 2) Slater-Price is no longer an active politician but merely a [UPDATE: former] resident who loves Encinitas; and 3) Slater-Price has years more experience and much more knowledge of how government and developers work. Remember, Shaffer and Kranz are complete government neophytes, and Barth was until this year in the outcast political minority, shut out from backroom deals. What say you?
Slater is Right and Barth, Kranz and shaffer are drinking the cool-aid from Sacramento Gus.
ReplyDeleteFor Gus, high density development is the only way for the City to afford the huge pensions like $170k per year Muir, $200k+ Cotton, $150k+ Watts, $150+ Patrick Murphy, $150+ all those past fire pensions each.
The developers want to profit on Encinitas and the existing residents quality of life and Gus supports that cause.
The me, do you enjoy all your tax dollars going to the pensions like $170+k to Muir, $200+ to Cotton, $150+ to Patrick Murphy, $150+ to Watts, $1,000,000+ each year going towards fire pensions, and the list keeps growing.
The City needs to sell out and become like Manhattan Beach to afford giving all these huge Pension give-aways. You can thank Jerome Stocks and the other pansies Guerin, Dalager and Houlihan for that future sinking debt.
All the pro A proponents make money from High Density. Marvin- Owns property that could be developed 3 stories. Shackleton earns his money for working for these developers.... Remember its all about the money.
I got my ballot and already voted yes. If you love Encinitas today more than Manhattan Beach, I recommend you vote YES too.
To Anon 6:01 I think you have an error in your response. Second to the last paragraph says proponents and I think based on what you said that you mean opponents.
ReplyDeleteThanks for voting yes, I am also voting Yes on A.
Yes, Charlie Marvin is an opponent of Prop. A. He stands to make big profits on upzoning.
ReplyDeleteVote YES on Prop. A.
Shut up L word, shut up.
DeleteAre you Charlie Marvin?
DeleteIt's interesting to watch the reactions of each council member through the Prop. A process. Barth goes silent. Kranz gets angry. Shaffer keeps making public excuses for her actions.
ReplyDeleteIt's ironic that Shaffer disavows a mailer that accurately reflect her comments and council actions. At least she and Kranz have said that they don't support 3.12.5 as newly written. Where does Barth stand? We will find out tonight.
Gaspar and Muir are smugly smiling through the whole brouhaha.
The outrageously lavish pensions afforded these small town bureaucrats is simply robber barron mentality. They should cap all pensions at $50,000/year. If they don't like it, go elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteWow, I already respected Pam Slater-Price, and now my level of admiration just shot up! She has been a registered Republican, but she has acted in a non-partisan manner.
ReplyDeleteBut the true "sides" in this City, haven't been Republican and Democrat, but pro expansionist interests, as in building industry/developer "insiders," and the "little guy," the voting public. So much information has been twisted, beginning with the bogus impact report, which put a "spin" on the facts, and replaced them with slanted opinion, conjecture and speculation. That impact report was used to justify what some Council Members had already decided, and to undermine the perception of those who had originally signed the petition. I'm sure there was also some "friendly pressure" brought to bear by the insiders, too, including, of course, Gus Vina, who selected Rutan & Tucker, without Council input, as far as we know, and without any public notice, or opportunity for interaction.
It would have been far better had a North County Attorney, with specialties (Sections) in Real Property Law (including land-use, zoning and initiatives) and Environmental Law, than an Orange County, pro-development lawyer, without those Sections. Everett DeLano, who wrote the initiative does have those specialties. Joel Kuperberg who wrote the impact report, after being paid $50K to $55K, doe not.
Our City Attorney wrote an impartial analysis, without giving the public notice of our ten day review period, which he submitted on April Fools Day. He twisted the impact reports conjecture, which FALSE allegation was explained and dismissed by Everett Delano's letter to Council of 3/12, that it could be CONSTRUED that lower residential height limits could possibly be raised, to the NOT impartial analysis falsely stating, "lower residential height limits WOULD be raised." That lie is NOT an impartial analysis, and exposes the City to liability.
I hope Council will do the right thing, tonight and not support the new loophole, at least. Shaffer does make excuses; she goes defensive, and appears to be thinking only of what she is going to say, in reply, not really listening to what others, including the public are saying with an open mind.
Flyers have been hand delivered by No on A that have the L101MA logo on them, and the Encinitas Preservation Association's logo. If they did not give permission for their logos to be used, why were they hand delivered (not mailed as the other glossy lying mailers were). Our Council had a choice whether to go with the "monied interests," the insiders, or the general public, the petition signers. They made the wrong choice. Pam-Slater Price, not needing to curry favor for political or financial gain, made the right choice.
Thank you Pam!
Pam Slater-Price lives in Del Mar.
ReplyDeleteGovernment service has its rewards!
DeleteFixed.
"Pam Slater-Price lives in Del Mar." She also lived here 23 years and was on the planning commission and was Mayor.
Delete7 out of the 20 ERAC members (hand-picked by last year's Council) do not live in Encinitas. "New Encinitas Network" and Stocks mouthpiece Mike Andreen does not live in Encinitas.
I'll take Pam over that crowd as one of us any day. Her chops come from loving, living, and working here.
Want to hazard a guess as to the interest and credibility the others have??
Oops . A bit touchy are we?? Perhaps YOU don't live here either?? Hmmmm...
DeleteJust stating the facts, friend.
DeletePam Slater-Price now lives in Del Mar. She continues to live in North County, and lived for 23 years, representing us as a Supervisor, in Encinitas.
DeleteShe recommended Dave Roberts, a Democrat, to replace her, as Supervisor. He won, and we're grateful. Pam Slater Price also has been an advocate for the environment, and for people's right to be heard, to have a voice, to have a say, through a public vote. She helped to write our current Encinitas General Plan, I believe.
As a recent resident of Del Mar, Pam Slater-Price advocated against roundabouts and lane elimination on Highway 101, there, which plan was voted down at the last General Elections. Dave Roberts was formerly on Solana Beach City Council; that City also decided against roundabouts.
Neighbors adjacent to Highway 101, when asked, overwhelmingly don't support roundabouts. They also don't want more cut through traffic and slower emergency response times. They also don't want more high density development because intersections with roundabouts no longer have to get grades for future traffic impact; they're exempt, and count as MITIGATION, so would-be developers can file for and recive mitigated negative environmental impact declarations. Thus, as in Desert Rose, a full environmental impact report is not required, and pre-existing residents' concerns over traffic choking, gridlock, and devalued quality of life, destruction of community character, are completely "nullified," overridden, and overlooked.
The fact that Pam Slater Price now lives in Del Mar is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she lived here for 23 years, she represented us at the City and County level as an elected official, and that she SUPPORTS, wholeheartedly, Prop A.
Shut up Lword. Anyone that can't understand the beauty of a roundabout is a total idiot. Does that sound like you?
DeleteClearly shows many council members and supervisors don't know shit.
DeletePam slater price ,yes that's right her husband a very big developer now retired in
ReplyDeleteDel mar gotcha!
If I am not mistaken, her husband developed Knight's Bridge in Olivenhain, which is luxurious development that Olivenhain residents are proud of.
DeleteYou see, people in Olivehain are not against development that even minimally fits in to our rural area. Desert Rose is completely different since they are breaking many, many standards that impact safety and community character.
Community Character. Isn't that what Teresa, Lisa, and Tony said that they wanted to protect in their campaigns?
HA. I knew someone would bring that up! Encinitas was also Pam's district for decades in her recent role as a County Board Supervisor.
ReplyDeleteHas ANYONE else been blocked from reading the City's online agenda today besides me and Sheila? I thought at first their web guy might be making changes or something, so I called the city and Linda had no problem at all getting on the site. The reason I ask is because I want to verify that the City Clerk has posted an in kind donation from a National Association of Realtor to the No on A folks for $8500. I'm just askin'. Not into conspiracies really, but I'll never figure out HOW folders from my computer with my personal family pictures got on to a city employee's computer years ago. So I wouldn't put it past someone to be able to block certain IP addresses from accessing the city website for whatever gain. How's your access today?
Fred, you need to get out more. It's a sunny day, go for a walk on the beach.
DeletePerhaps you are on the list at Encinitas City Hall that Gus Vina is keeping and Mayor Barth is condoning of who they claim are 'agitators' only because they have another point of view. Sounds like Vina and Barth are following the lead of the IRS, Chavez and other dictators of the third world-
DeleteFred,
DeleteHere is the doc:
link
Well, I was wrong again. It was only $8250. the No on A folk recieved from the Chicago based Realtor group. Not the $8500. rumor that was being viciously spread in emails from people I thought I could trust.
DeleteGreat work, W.C.. But money for a "phone poll"? I thought that's where you were asked questions, not told one side of a story. More of a push and poll I guess.
2:56
Naw, can't imagine anybody so bored to put me on a list of agitators. Besides, the incident I referred to happened years back and was not on a city computer - as it may have sounded. But ya gotta remember, a "Personal Computer" is the last thing it is. No ill feelings toward Gus or Teresa either. I like vanilla, they like rocky road. Either way, the citizens will have their vote on the matter. You know, unless meanwhile the Russians take over. (My #1 childhood fear. I blame Glendale's air raid sirens.)
ca.encinitas.gov.us/
ReplyDelete2:02 I hear that!!
ReplyDeleteALERT!!!
ReplyDeleteGus wants another layer of personnel between him and the residents! NO! City Council wake up.
On the Council agenda tonight - agenda item #7.
Proposed Expenditure Requests
Below is a list of proposed expenditues with General Fund impact which are not included in the proposed budget so they will require Council direction:
Communication Specialist $136,700
This position will bring a much needed resource to better communicate with our citizens on an on-going basis and to enhance efforts in our open government environment. Projects for this position will include, but not be limited to implementation of the City Council's Strategic Plan community outreach, assist with citizen inquiries, public records requests, citywide newsletters, capital improvement project updates, FAQs on the City's website, media press releases,
coordination with media on City's budget and other special projects, marketing of City events, and internal employee communications.
No more spending!!! No!!
DeleteOh leave me alone
ReplyDeleteThe irony of having a "much needed resource" for an "open government environment" would be hilarious if it didn't pile on yet another salary with another pension.
ReplyDeleteIf you truly have open government, why the need for a PR spinner? This will be just another city hall employee who can't seem to find the "reply to" key on the computer or worse yet, an automated "Thank you for your concern" brush-off.
The fun just never seems to end, nor does it fail to disappoint.
LOL!
ReplyDeleteCity Council fools the public again. They now have the 3/5 simple majority by approving the resolution. This language is in both resolutions:
WHEREAS, if it deems to be in the public interest, the City Council may amend all or part of an adopted General Plan;
Council is failing us if they approve another high priced position!
ReplyDeleteHow many heads does this snake have?
ReplyDeleteYou close a loophole and they open a bigger one right next to it.
As 6:48 PM pointed out the final discretion on up-zoning remain with council. The B was better than A but certainly not as good as Prop A.
Shut down these loopholes, once and for all. Vote Yes on PROP A
6:48. The whereas clause just described the current General plan. There should not be any controversy in the Resolved wording. Let's see what the minutes will state.
ReplyDeleteDump Barth. She's the ringleader.
ReplyDeleteYeahhhh gays now accepted by the Boy Scouts . ( now ill be able to sleep at night).
ReplyDeleteOh Joy... our do nothing assistant clerk/manager will get yet another raise. Praise ye lord. She looks after all. Except the taxpayer and common worker.
ReplyDeleteOH BOY.... now let the fun time start. Whats that I touchy? Is that a ?
ReplyDeleteWow. We have come so far as a society. Just like Rome.