Wednesday, September 14, 2016

9/14/16 City Council meeting open thread

The current city council has continued prior councils' practice of not providing written summary minutes of council discussion, but only "action minutes" which state the outcomes. Encinitas Undercover will provide a forum for observers to record what occurs at each council meeting.

Please use the comments to record your observations.

53 comments:

  1. About 7:40 PM of the Council meeting under FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ADDED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS -
    Tony Kranz wants the city attorney to write an opinion on how the city and council can education the public on Measure T and combat the opposition information. Kranz mentioned senting out information (to voters). Other council members joined in the conversation to combat any information.

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  2. Kranz started out by saying there's wrong information about Measure T circulating in the community, but he didn't say what it is.

    He wants the city to counter with education. The city can't legally advocate or oppose, so Kranz wants to get around that prohibition by calling advocacy "education."

    Kranz has done far more bad than good for Encinitas as a council member. Ousting him in November would be a good thing.

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  3. I thought it was extremely juvenile of GASpar to steal the thunder of the young man who got drafted by the Phillies when she announced that it was a really big deal for her to be the first elected mayor of Encinitas. After pronouncing how wonderful she is, then she attempts to praise the young man by reading a proclamation.

    C'mon GASpar, I think we all know your story by now. You could have just let the young man shine in his glorious moment without how wonderful you think you are.

    Tacky, tacky, tacky.

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    1. Gaspar did fine. She repeatedly praised him and said how proud the City of Encinitas is of him. Made it very personal and not just rote reading of a document. Brought his whole family and friend group up for photos. Very well done.

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    2. And lame, lame, lame.

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    3. 8:37 My point is, she could have left out the part about how wonderful she was. That just brought it down one notch when it should have been all about him.

      As I said and will repeat....tacky, tacky, tacky.

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    4. And lame, lame, lame.

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    5. I learned a long time ago in Business Communications that you should never focus on yourself when presenting an award, gift, etc. All focus is to be on the person receiving the award.

      The mayor, obviously, has much to learn.

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    6. Gaspar -- "like- its all about me!.... this is like what happened to me!!"...." like -- so great!!"

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    7. Princess Narcissus — don't elect her as county supervisor!

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  4. Show Kranz the door in November. Developer tool from day one.

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  5. How about similar recognition for young people who excel in pursuits besides sports?

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    1. You do realize how incredibly rare it is to be selected #1 overall in the MLB draft? If there was an accomplishment as rare in another endeavor, I would hope the city would recognize just as well. Note that there were 504 perfect SAT scores last year, but only 1 number 1 draft pick.

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    2. Great but it's sports. How about other things that contribute much more to a better society?

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    3. I would argue that youth sports contribute greatly to society. But I get your point. We live in a great community with lots of talented people.

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  6. Kranz was going off on how the anti-T people were lying about the Measure. He then asked for the city to counter this with their own factual informational piece. Shaffer seconded for action.

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    1. What was the vote? There was a subcommittee about this same kind of idea when Prop A was going to the ballot. Tony Kranz and Mark Muir were on the subcommittee, which was formed to plan action. Staff had a FAQ webpage prepared, which was NOT to be actual questions asked, but questions created and answered by staff, with the help of City Attorney and his hired Orange County guns, Rutan and Tucker, the same law firm that wrote the bogus analysis full of speculation that never panned out.

      Point is, Kranz was gung ho about sending out glossy flyers and other "educational materials." He knew how to keep the costs down with his background, he said.

      Mark Muir said he had an epiphany while at the Dentist's office. He didn't think the materials would be purely educational, but would be advocacy. The idea was quashed; no additional "educational information" was sent out to the public at our expense, directly through the City, to push for a no vote on Prop A. There was plenty of money spent by developers and other "lobbyists" to defeat Prop A. Fortunately, those special interests (building industry, real estate interests, developers) failed. Grassroots citizens prevailed. I hope we do again, soundly defeating Prop T.

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  7. Kranz must go. At the Cardiff Forum he brought up "Updating the Circulation Element" . Tony, what is the reason for that "update"? Could it be creating new major arterial roads to accommodate the the thousands of cars your developer backed scheme called Measure T will bring to our city streets? Council have you really read, studied and understood every line of Measure T. Your actions prove you have not! Can you deny you are transferring your power to the Planning Director? No. Did Planning really need to rewrite our entire General Plan? NO
    Where is your honesty and transparency!

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  8. Kranz has wasted his four years on the wrong focus.

    1. He bought off on the housing element hype by developers.

    2. He spearheaded the stupid purchase of PV.

    3. He supports the wasteful spending to build a $3 million dollar life guard tower in the surf zone of the pacific ocean.

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  9. Didn't every candidate except Brandenburg Endorse Measure T?

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  10. Where is the talk in Council meetings about fixing our public railroad separating Encinitas...

    Today we find 2.17 Billion Dollars is now funded for 11 miles of track from Old Town to UTC.

    Nothing for Encinitas in what would be a small project with great benefits.

    Trench and cover our public tracks in Encinitas and stop the misdemeanor tickets for people crossing these tracks like they have for the 100 years of it's existence!

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    1. There is none. Our council members are too chickenshit to raise the issue.

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    2. The trick is to propose elevating the tracks through Encinitas just like the new mid-coast trolley does in University City. You guys have been advocating the wrong direction.

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    3. That trick is a non-starter. If a 5' rail fence blocks views, what would an El do? And elevating will allow train noise to travel even further.

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    4. Trench like Solana Beach did in 1995. Works great!

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    5. Cover the trench and put a parkway for plants, bikes, walkers and parking for cars... then we can complete the picture.

      Can't wait to see some real progress in Encinitas!

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    6. Creating a tunnel with park land on top is far more expensive than a railway trench like Solana's. The parking areas and landscaped park way can be east and west of the trench. There also have to be ped/bike crossings like the ramp at the Solana Amtrak station.

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    7. You have to cover much of the trench to get any real benefit. The cost to cover it is minor when one considers the opportunity costs by covering the trench.

      Besides over $2 Billion for 11 miles of track SANDAG just released funds for is far beyond anything that would be needed to properly trench and cover our public railroad tracks.

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    8. You've looked at Solana Beach's rail corridor and see no real benefit from their trenched rails and four crossings?

      How would a nearly five-mile tunnel through Encinitas affect ridership?

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    9. Any real benefit is with regaining the public land that the railroad tracks lie on...

      You have to cover the trench the tracks will lie in order to get the real benefits to the public that owns this land!

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    10. There will be no lowering of the tracks without federal money, so it's a pointless discussion until the money has been put down in the ledger..

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    11. There will not be any lowering of the tracks and covering it until the City (ie Council) gets off their duff and makes the plan.

      The money will come after a plan is made and the citizen owners of this railroad understand the plan and come to support it.

      Remember - we just gave $38 Billion dollars to Israel this week. A place not much larger than San Diego County!

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  11. Kranz also supports Measure A, the countywide sales tax increase that would let SANDAG run roughshod over the public even more than they already do.

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    1. Kranz was the ONLY candidate to support this 40 year MEGA TAX!!!

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  12. I was going to vote for Blakespear until I heard that she is running with Kranz. I will now NOT vote for either Blakespear or Gaspar! Anyone have a good write in name to consider?

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    1. I think it's best to vote for the least bad of all the terrible candidates.

      If I don't vote, I'd just be letting other voters decide for me.

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    2. Not sure what your reasoning is on that one...... It sounds like you were fine with Blakespear UNTIL you heard she was running with Kranz. Presumably, had you not heard this, you would still be voting for Blakespear. How did "running with Kranz" change anything? Just vote for Blakespear and not Kranz! Isn't that what you were going to do anyway? I'm thinking you need something other than a good write-in candidate......

      - The Sculpin

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    3. Don't vote for ANY of them. The MONEY people own them all. Send a message. You all suck.

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    4. There will be a lot of blanks on the ballot for city council this time.

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  13. If Blakespear wins mayor, she vacates her council seat. Does the council candidate with the least votes fill it, or do the new mayor and winning council candidates select somebody?

    Among the winning council candidates, the one with the least votes will sit for two years rather than four.

    When Maggie Houlihan passed, the other council members, led by Stocks, filled her seat with Muir.

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    1. The council asked for people to apply and the interviewed them ultimately selecting Muir. They'll probably do the same if Blakespear wins.

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    2. The majority was Stocks, Bonds and Dallablabber, so yes, of course they selected one of their own. Thus giving him the advantage when the full election came up...

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    3. I think you mean Bond, but OK.

      If Blakespear wins, that means a highly qualified person in the community can become a council member without the giant burden of campaigning.

      Step up, Bruce Ehlers!

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    4. Hmm, "filled her seat with Muir."

      Do we have a joke here?

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    5. Ehlers ran already and got beat. Besides, does he really want people to come after him and his business like they do here in Encinitas? No wonder no one will run for office!

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    6. He and Everett just lost $800K trying to beat Carlsbad out of big money over the empty stores at the C'Bad mall; subdued dude is his newest nickname.

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    7. There goes Mikey, making up shit again.

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    8. 8:22 Sounds like bullshit. Unless you have URLs as proof, it is bullshit.

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    9. If it's Mikey, it's bullshit. And it's undoubtedly Mikey.

      Ever at the ready to do developers' dirty work for them, that's Mikey!

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    10. Mikey said "If prop A passes the Macdonalds can't be rebuilt". This guy must need alot of medication to sleep at night.

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  14. Thats why we have egonauts and old retired boring fat guys on council.

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  15. THIS JUST IN...ficus trees have feelings:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3792036/Do-trees-brains.html

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