Wednesday, June 21, 2023

6/21/23 City Council meeting open thread

 Please use the comments to record your observations.

46 comments:

  1. Kathleen Lees… major supporter of The Town Dunce … now whining about the ghetto on Piraeus….

    What a joke !

    You are in the camp with Tony and Marco…. You are a big part of the problem!!!!

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    1. Olivenhain needs to take more high density. They are way below their fair share.

      If they are worried about evacuation, then they should lobby for widening the roads and connecting more through streets.

      “My horse gets upset looking at housing a schoolteacher could afford.”

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    2. 6:13 hey genius...you are advocating wider roads meaning the city should take peoples private property to do that? In the world of the communist, take everything.

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  2. During the public comments, poor garvin being the whiny little bitch he is, was whining about being the target that he made for himself, by being himself.

    I don't know where he thought he could garner some sympathy. Well, a couple of people do come to mind, but they have also been rendered insignificant and again due to their own selfish actions.

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    1. that was one wild ride he was on

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  3. LOL Garvin bitch slapped the EV harpies. His rebuke was 100% on target and addresses just one of the hundreds of lies that woman has peddled over the years.

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    1. He spent most of last year dialing for votes for Kranz it must’ve slipped his mind.

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    2. i'd call it, he looked like a jackass with no cause but trying to explain his way out of way he received the email from his boyfriend.....

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  4. Good for Garvin, it’s about time someone put those women in line. Their always playing the victim when in fact they are the biggest bullies.

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    1. Nice complement yourself Garvin….. we all know your tucking style.

      ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿฟ

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  5. ๐Ÿ–๐Ÿ‘ง- your buddy Garvin was up at Council spewing BS today. He along with no-one have explained why Tony would immediately forward a sensitive email to his Sunday morning tuck buddy.

    Tony is blowing brown act big time. He showed that the Mayor and City Council can and do respond to public comment.

    What a shit show. Resign Today Tony. You are crooked!!!!!!!

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  6. Is Marco gay or just trying to gain brownie points with his BIA friends The Dunce and Tuck Tuck Garvin?

    WTF with that stupid hat…. My gawd!

    This is such a shit show we know the City Council will approve the ghetto… this is all part of the circus….

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    1. He needs to be put on the next submersible headed for the titanic.

      Other riders-
      Fletcher
      Blakespear
      ...

      Please add another two

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  7. So The Dunce repeatedly states he is tired and not thinking clear and continuing hearing past 10:08…. Yet they will be reviewing the budget tonight. Slam it through.

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  8. Hey Garvin,
    You did nothing wrong, right?
    Agreed, because TONY sent it to you!
    But….. why? Why would he forward you that email out of nowhere?
    Were you on the phone with him when he received it? Had you had prior communications about the subject? Or are you just privy to ANY information from the “Toxic Sourpuss”?
    Honestly, you seem to be her biggest fan, Stan.
    Please explain!
    WHY did you want the email!? That’s the question!

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    1. He made it all about him when the question is like you say WHY did Tony send it to him. Kinda the elephant in the room.

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  9. Joy—- I will not prolong this 7 min budget discussion …. But blah,blah, blah….

    Tony and Scitt are tight…. Tony joking with Scott while on the Dias….

    Scott had zero usefull budget comments.

    I convinced Scott is a part of the BIA/Dunce/๐Ÿ–๐Ÿ‘ง/Marco alliance….. ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿฟ

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    1. Don’t be silly. Scott’s an ok guy. Not city council material but an amusing sideshow at council meetings. He’s not an insider, just a regular commenter with a different kind of humor. Not every disagreement has to be accompanied by bombs and bombshells.

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    2. 10:33- if your with Kranz, you are an Encintas enemy. Scott๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿฟ

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    3. I think you’ve got Scott confused with Julie Thunder 10:48.

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    4. I said this before, this isn't election season. No need to go with the flamethrower at all times. One usually can achieve better results by being nice than being a bitch.

      I apologize that my charts are common knowledge and have no use. Did you see the data in the CAFR on the 25 largest property tax payers in the city?

      Other people though, may find it interesting to learn how much our general fund has decreased over the last 15 years in comparison to the rise in revenues. People also need to learn how general fund contributions to street and storm drains have significantly lagged behind revenues.

      Funny, I sat 5 feet away from Marco, he didn't say hi. I feel slighted. LOL, he probably feels the same way. I guess we should hug next time.

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    5. I agree with your first paragraph.

      You could’ve suggested a long-term financial plan be completed before city staff start developing their draft budget.

      And you could’ve focused on the spiking staff hiring and costs, which will have a huge negative impact on completing needed capital projects.

      The second community center will be a huge drain on long-term city resources. Can the city really afford a second community center?

      Scott, I do appreciate you showing up at city council and speaking. I think you’re getting better with time.

      ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฟ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฟ

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    6. Another budgeting issue is how they deal with uncertainty. Some costs can’t be known precisely. Last year’s budget didn’t know we were going to have strong winter weather and erosion damage. This years budget doesn’t know if we are headed into a recession.

      Council should be using Monte Carlo simulations to understand uncertainty.

      MC sims allow you to define individual inputs to the model not as a specific number, but a range between best and worst case. It also allows you to define the distribution of likelihood within the range. In a normal distribution, values toward the middle of the range are more likely than values toward the extreme best and worst case extremes.

      Once you define the ranges and distributions, you tell software to run 10,000 simulations. The software will draw values for each variable from its range, using the likelihood curve to pull more likely values more often.

      The results then give you a probabilistic view of your budget goals being met. If 90% of the simulations result in a balanced budget, that’s pretty good. If it’s only 50%, then you probably need to make some cuts before finalizing the budget.

      You can get commercial off the shelf software that will run MC sims as a spreadsheet plugin for a few hundred bucks.

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    7. The other useful thing: MC sims give you the top 5 (or 10) variables that have the greatest effect on the probability of meeting budget goals.

      If things don’t go well, it will likely come from one of these sources.

      Council can use that information to develop specific risk mitigation ideas for the most critical areas. And they can watch them more carefully, asking staff for more detailed and frequent updates on the critical variables.

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    8. 100% human error.

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    9. 9:46 - I agree and I'll add one point.

      The Lake Drive storm drain failure caused the huge slope failure which caused all the damage from the massive siltation to the watershed. This was all caused by lack of maintenance of the old storm drain. 100% human error.

      I would suggest to Bruce Ehlers and Blackwell, because at least she had some reasonable comments regarding budget last night, to look at what it costs to maintain Encinitas existing infrastructure prior to approving any more budget for the second Community Center/Senior Center/ Art Center/ Homeless Parking Lot at the Beach.

      Encinitas is about to go bankrupt after all these lawsuits from the many deaths and people being run down on its roads. Do you really think we can afford a second community center with the millions to build, the millions per year to maintain in the salty corrosive marine environment, and millions per year on staff costs and other operating costs?

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  10. Super sad night. Tony spends hours in another circus act, going through the steps to approve yet another high density ghetto in Leucadia, and then spends about 10 minutes with no presentation from staff or no discussion about the trends or how Encinitas is posiitioned in the near future for maintaining the City Instrasture and its ablilty to fund new services like the large expansion of staff and opening up a second community center/senior center/homeless parking lot at the beach.

    Totally planned to burn out the public and start the budget item after 10pm after hours of nonsense and residents trying to preserve their quality of life and investment in their homes. Sorry folks, Tony put the fork in your quality of life and property values, he approved the upzoning. Just look at how fast the upzoned lots by right destroyed Leucadia. Unfortunately your neighborhood is next.

    Road are shit, City Manager spiked long turn staffing and pension costs for the City meaning less money for capital projects like street improvements, rail road crossings, quiet zones, sidewalks on La Costa and Vulcan Avenue, rail trail from Encinitas Blvd to La Costa, all the failed storm drains that need replacement, and the hundreds of more projects not mentions.

    Residents better wake up. Tony is quickly destroying Encinitas and your quality of life and your ROI of your home and real estate assets which also happens to be the City's largest review source by far.

    Sad Sad night for Encinitas.

    Elections have consequences. Thank Kathleen Lees, John Gjata, Garvin, Marco G, Mali and the other 40% of voters that put The Dunce in charge of destroying Encinitas.

    Their plan is working well. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

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  11. Roads are so bad if you really dig down the cost to bring them up to snuff would show a financial hole.

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  12. Funny thing about Thunder’s missive over in EV.

    She says she has no problem tuning it out. But she worries that others may not be able to. So ostensibly she’s representing some unnamed others.

    Thing is, we voted on whether people wanted Thunder to represent them.

    Twice.

    Both times people indicated that they did not want Thunder representing them.

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    1. Thunder is why we have Tony furthering Blakespear’s agenda. That is reason alone to dismiss her shrill missives and hysterics.

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  13. We have Tony because of Susan Turney. Her record speaks for itself. She has been dividing residents in our community. When she ran in 2020 she wasn’t even close to Kellie. Residents didn’t like her because she was unfriendly, sour and frankly lacked integrity. She really should stay away from politics as she doesn’t help at all but instead only hurts good people from getting elected.

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    1. Susan may be a frump and a grump, but in no way impacted the last election.

      That honor belongs to Julie Thunder who would and did anything to try and get elected.

      Susan actually has ethics and even if you don’t like her style, her integrity is without question.

      Julie on the other hand has been dishonest with the electorate since her first campaign. She was colluding with Tony long before she announced. Many of us know it. Heard it from her directly. Her overall plan backfired and she hates this blog for being called out.

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    2. Is it ethical to expose your friend to retaliation by a known psycho to score sore loser points?

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    3. The exposure would have come from Kranz through Walsh in revealing the contents of the email. Retribution all the way. Better not cross the mayor, you're next.

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    4. Would have come from Kranz

      Except this isn’t a hypothetical, and it didn’t come from Kranz.

      A half dozen people knew about the email before Turney chose to put it up on a big screen at a televised meeting.

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    5. 1:02-Names please. You say 6 people knew of this email exchange. So please name them. We'll wait for you to tell us, although I'll bet you can't.

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    6. 1:48, You can find the names on the “TO” and “CC” lines of the email Turney put on the giant screen during a televised meeting to score sore loser points.

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    7. Loser Kranz points!

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  14. Scott, I somehow was thinking you lived in Tony's old district one of Leucadia, but last night I heard you say district two. Bummer for Leucadia, but good for old Enc. for the next election.

    You learned how the public can treat residents who donate their time and efforts for us all. Please hang in there, We need your voice.

    Susan has given and given back for decades and look what she gets from some of the malcontents. For sure, she can be abrasive at times, even to friends who have been on her side for years. She always does her homework and knows of what she speaks.

    I applaud all who continue to put up with the bs that comes along with defending our town against the money grubbing developers and their mouthpieces and a compromised and uncertified planning dept.

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  15. Anyone saying that Susan is unfriendly hasn’t met her or has a bollard on their shoulder.

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  16. Walsh with his "8 people knew" tried his darndest to mislead and make it sound like all kinds of random people knew about the email.

    Fact is the 8 people constituted SD Sheriff Kelly Martinez, SD County DA Ben Barlow, and the local detective, plus the 5 council members. Maybe he wants to accuse Martinez of taking it straight to the Coast News. Nah. The facts show Kranz took it to Garvin directly. Still waiting to hear why.

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    1. Kranz will never admit why. Kinda like Julie and Garvin not admitting why they threw in with Kranz. It's pretty clear that Garvin and Tony are chummy and the collusion many residents thought might be true isn't really so far fetched.

      Anyone wonder as I do what they can possibly continue to gain from their relationship? The right wing instigator and the left wing mayor?

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  17. Wonder how the left wing Kranz voters feel about this

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    1. It all started when The Dunce asked Garvin, “Can I tuck you in?”

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  18. The Dunce and his butty seem to have a thing together.

    Question still holds, why would he forward the email to his butty?

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