Allied Van Lines moved 37 percent more families out countywide than in last year, down from 43 percent net emigration in 2012. U-Haul officials, who observed 5.9 percent net immigration to the city of San Diego in 2012, said this reversed last year to 1.6 percent more customers moving out in 2013.The SANDAG economist's answer is to build more houses, obviously.
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One troubling statistic is the exodus of families leaving just before their peak earning years — taking their children with them.
From 2000 to 2012, San Diego County lost 5.6 percent of its population in the age group from 30 to 44, according to state figures.
The causes boil down to the usual suspects: High cost of living, particularly for housing, combined with lackluster job creation outside of low-paying tourism or high-paying technology sectors.
Sunday, January 12, 2014
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Residents flee San Diego County's high cost of living and unemployment:
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This is a positive sign. Hopefully all the deadwood meaning those that are ticks on society leave. Ask your doctor, "bigger is not better". In many situations "less is more" .
ReplyDeleteWe don't have the water or energy to sustain the current population. A shrinking population in north County is great news! Lets keep the trend moving in that direction.
My solution is encourage them to leave and downsize the current City staff costs to reflect the fact that there is a greatly reduced workload. The workload is reduced because of our previous focus on borrowing to pay for all the trophy projects including the Regional Sports Complex and the All New Fire McMansion program ($30 million in 15 years) we took on under the $tock$ regime and fast tracked in by our clueless city manager. The trophy projects coupled with the pension fiasco means we have ZERO money for new projects and staff just sits around in a big circle jerk making up unnecessary assignments for each other.
City Council better do something good for our City this year and fire Sad Sac.
Its not good enough to just get along with each other, you need to address our city's priorities. Its been a year and counting since the "new" city council is in place. when are they going to take a serious look at our long term financial plan?
I don't think the population is really shrinking, maybe just holding steady. The Union loves to do these kind of stories about people migrating out.
ReplyDeleteThe poster above raises a good point, it's about the water. We have very little, and guess what, we're in a huge drought right now if you haven't noticed it. One of the issues that must be addressed with any new housing project is where the water will come from.
For all you guys hoping that Vina will be fired, keep dreaming. I'm not a Vina supporter, but I can't imagine anything will happen in the next 3 years, unless he gets a better offer somewhere else.
Give the council a chance, it took 15 years to get where we are now, we're not going to reverse it in one year...
The domestic population is leaving, but being replaced by foreign immigration and births. Unfortunately, the foreign immigration is largely poor and unskilled. And the births skew more heavily toward immigrants and poor too. Net population is still increasing slightly.
DeleteThe rich (or pre-2000 homeowners) can afford to stay here, but young families are being driven out. Local school enrollment in Encinitas and Carlsbad and Solana Beach is actually declining.
WCV
Seems to be a pendulum. In 1995 realtors were singin' the blues. House sales were dismal. Even magnate realtor and president of the Chamber of Commerce Ron Edde moved to Kansas. I think only 3 houses were approved to be built city wide in Encinitas that year. There was a mass exodus of people leaving CA for other states and usually for economic reasons of course. (Hard to find a better climate anyway). Two things seemed significant to me.
Delete1. I spoke frequently with U-haul employees as I rented a lot from them to do the Rose Bowl swap meet. For much of that year it was hard to find a truck immediately available as they had left CA. They even ran specials going the opposite directions to CA.
2. As I was also working at the time for the San Dieguito Union High School District, I called the office to see what the enrollment of students was that year suspecting it was lower and they told me it was DOWN for the first time in 20 years. A 4% decrease which amounted to 75 less students than the year before.
In spite of that and predictably, SANDAG figures have always been on the rise. Despite population counts, the cost of living here goes one direction as do SANDAG tallies. Can you smell "political"?
The US economy is in sad shape, from empty sky scrapers in Detroit to foreclosures and unemployment everywhere else. Not to mention a ticket to the funnest place on earth has gone up 1000% in 50 years. Guess the problem can be traced back to two things. Love of money and poor management. I think many conservation and "green" efforts go in the right direction to resolve many problems. But seems they can go too far with Agenda 21's plans to cram everyone in cities and take away their cars (among many other things).
Malpractice insurance for doctors is one reason medical expenses are so high. Sue-happy folks help with that too. In the end lawyers abound and the public pays handsomely. NAFTA bled a lot of our life blood out. But why? Roger Moore's film on Flynt, Michigan was pretty comprehensive showing its descent into the abyss .But not once did it address the high costs for industry here because of Union demands and that being the very reason for outsourcing jobs. Unions started out to be a great thing until pushing a broom paid $35 hr. Earlier this year I heard on the news the US Post Office loses $47 million per day (probably more than that now). The report didn't say WHY. I couldn't figure it out myself seeing that post offices have never been busier and online selling has never been higher and everyone in front of me in line was sending a parcel for something they just sold on the internet. It's not like the P.O. is taking in less money than ever, so what gives? The guy behind me in line one day said "pensions". I can't imagine what that totals every year, but I'll bet there's no way it won't spiral to twice that amount sooner than they think.
For a country with great centers of learning, we sure seem to be lacking on problem solving. But we're all human and I've never had faith humans will or can govern themselves properly in the first place. Still, can't help but toss in two bits though. My bad.
Foreign immigration is falling, if you we're talking Mexico and Latin America. I think even this article said that. The recession took away a lot of the manual jobs that those folks relied on.
Deletehttp://www.pewhispanic.org/2013/09/23/unauthorized-immigration/3-3/
The problem with the post office is they were/are required to front load all the pensions/healthcare, ie pay for them in advance. Of course, the unfunded liability shouldn't have been allowed to build up in the first place.
Deletehttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-02/understanding-the-post-office-s-benefits-mess.html
The internet has taken a lot of the business from the PO, so have UPS and the other carriers, along with inefficiencies at the PO. I know a lot of great people who have worked for the PO over the years.
They obviously have to cut obligations, but the first thing to me is to cut Saturday delivery...
5:43 has it right about the postal service having to fund pensions and healthcare up front. But the post office/postal service has always been a loser because, like any government operation, they had no competition, and that led to complacency. Then email replaced first class letter mail. If the managers had been on the ball, there would be no FedEx because they would have recognized the market and provided that service before the private sector beat them to it. They've been lamely paying catch-up every since FedEx was launched.
DeleteWith bemusement, Michael Moore accepts being called Roger Moore because one of his early films was "Roger and Me," which was about Michael pursuing GM CEO Roger Smith. Roger Moore is the Brit actor who played James Bond.
So be it… one thing for certain that will make it worse is more social programs that make people dependent on Government.
ReplyDeleteI will not be voting for any person that supports a failed leader. The pick of City Manager is the most important task of a City Council and our current failure. By keeping the current failure, they are keeping Encinitas on a failing path. That is the simple fact.
Lets see the next round of candidates, our current council (now that they have been seated) is only about getting along.
What a bunch of elitist snobs that post on this blog. Good decent honest hard working people leaving is never good for a community.
ReplyDeleteYour," I got mine and the rest of you can fuck off losers," are the real losers here.
What we need to see is an exodus of obtructionistas that oppose any thing good for the community such as street lights, sidewalks, flowers, trees and a good functioning infrastructure.
8:14 sounds like a city employee telling us that we are elitist since his cushy job may be in jeopardy. There is nobody more elitist than City of Encinitas employees. They get paid a ton for doing very little, nobody gets fired, and they are like trust fund babies with their lifetime pension payouts. On top of that, they tell citizens how excellent they are and boast about how many years they have been able to keep their jobs when mistakes and unprofessional behavior is pointed out.
DeleteI'm surprised they don't present each other awards each week complete with ribbon cutting! Encinitas citizens have been the most duped folks this side of Bell California.
DeleteI have been in council meetings where staff members ask council if they can dedicate hundreds of staff hours that WE pay for, to apply for awards! What kind of 'award' is it when people have to tell others how great they are instead of having that excellence recognized in terms of noticeable results from leaders in the field? Also, these awards are usually only open to cities in SANDAG or some other small group, so in truth, they are applying with 1 other agency, and they may ALL get some type of recognition so that it sounds good. The granting agencies have to give awards to justify the jobs of the people who work there too, so it is just an incestuous group of a few over-paid agency employees praising one another. Don’t forget that a few months before the City of Bell story broke that their accounting staff had been awarded recognition for their work, too.
DeleteIt is the same with the whole 'grant' scam. They will apply for a "$20,000" grant to justify spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on consultants or staff pay. This is just one way that that they only present 1 side of the balance sheet. They praise themselves for funds coming in without talking about what is going out. Think of the Park issue. They have mortgaged our future to buy this polluted property and are borrowing money to build it, were charged with $430,000 in wetland violations, yet they have talked about what an economic boon this will be for the city when it opens. It is an entrenched culture of bullshit with too many layers of city staff to keep it flowing!
Dump the staff
DeleteElitist my butt... I live simply.
DeleteMany city employee tap out tax revenue and don't do anything positive for our city.
Ours city could operate with half the current staff and residents would see no drop in service.
Council needs to do something positive this year and dump Vina.
As someone familiar with the city workings 2/3 of employees could be cut if others worked like what happens in the real world. The level of waste at city hall is EXTROARDINARY! To think they claim anything "green" is absurd.
DeleteYup, no one is done any favors by making blanket statements about city workers or people leaving the state. People go where the jobs are.
DeleteI worked in Orange County for a year and a half. A lot of people I worked with in Oceanside were from Orange County. One guy came in from Riverside.
The bottom line is the job market is super tight. San Diego has more industry than it did in the 80's, but it doesn't have the variety of LA or even OC.
We're not going to make any progress by vilifying every city worker, to me it's not productive. We need to get on the same page and work together, without the reprisals and the negativity. Dump the negativity. We have it pretty good here.
2:28, I've worked many jobs in the "real world", and even seen the exact same waste and laziness. It all comes down to leadership, or lack thereof.
DeleteAt least Encinitas City Employee 5:22 is more polite in his defense of his/her job than most others who post online. Most are entitled and proud of what they have gotten away with.
DeleteThe last line, "We have it pretty good here," is an understatement for Encinitas City employees.
To WC's point, SANDAG also used these false statitics to justify building a bigger I-5 project than is needed, which was based on false population projections. So not only do they want to build housing that the people who live here and who are coming in can't afford, but they want to build a huge freeway, mainly to provide better transportation and temporary construction jobs for the building industry. These projects are not driven by actual citizens' needs but by the building industry and government agencies whose jobs and/or pensions depend on them!
ReplyDeleteFix my street, fix my road, fix my freeway.
DeleteRight, no population forecast is going to be accurate. But hey, I'm sure you've seen the traffic that hits the 5 between June and September. It's a parking lot from San Juan to SD. There's definitely an issue. Of course, widening the freeway will only hold for a little while until that capacity is quickly reached.
DeleteWhat we need in this town is a concerted effort to find some transportation alternatives. We have the 5 and the 15, that's it unless you take the COASTER. Planning, which is supposed to be SANDAG's job, is non existent...
Less people less traffic and no need for widening…. less people is a good thing.
DeleteAnd how often will you use this transportation alternative?
DeleteI used it every day when I worked at Sempra. You have to have public transport that takes you where you need to go, otherwise it's useless. LA is doing a great job with public transport right now. San Diego is last in the nation.
DeleteOtherwise you can look forward to that 20 lane freeway through Leucadia...
LA is doing such a great job they let themselves be dragged around by the taxi union and refuse to take the subway to LAX. Nice work by LA. Lololll olololol .
Delete"I used it every day when I worked at Sempra".
DeleteGlad that worked out for you and a fraction of other commuters.
"San Diego is last in the nation (with public transportation) "
That's arguable.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2012/mar/30/citys-public-transportation-deemed-best-in-the-wes/
"Trains are a 200 year old mode of transportation that do two things: they take you where you're not coming from, and drop you off where you're not going to". - some speaker at the mic years ago at city hall.
California boondoggles like the $500 million Sprinter and the $100 billion High Speed rail system are very discouraging. The Sprinter for example shaves only 5 minutes off of a trip from Oside to Escondido compared to it's predecessor express bus route 320 which ran 3 times per hour. The Sprinter only runs two times per hour and costs not only taxpayers but all passengers a lot more. And if someone needs public transportation for jury duty in Vista, the Sprinter now stops about a mile from the courthouse instead of the 320 stopping only two blocks away. That's progress.
What also frustrates me are the people who never use public transportation who think they could improve it. That effort was funded by the city twice and the last time realized $350 in ticket sales for a $10,000 investment for one summer. Yet some want to try it again.
All encinitas should support Thomas Frick and Barbara Lynch in their fight to keep their homes.
ReplyDeleteWho are they, and what's their fight against?
DeleteI would assume they are in the freeway right of way if they widen the 5.
DeleteAll of Encinitas resident should support Council replacing Vina!
ReplyDeleteAnyone who finds out about what happens at the city is upset on financial grounds alone. They claim that they are providing us services--most of which we don't want. Unlike a real business where there is a market to determine the cost of services, they keep charging more and more for less and less. Dump the City!
DeleteIncorporation has brought on the super structure of redundant, overpaid staffers that line up for 6 figure pensions for making it to their 50's. Guys like Muir bail at age 50 and then ride the gravey train ($175,000) for life - what he did was not brain surgery - $50 grand/year should be max for any pensions. This relatively new city council is probably intimidated by the slick talkers (Vina, Sabine, etc.), or they have been convinced how the program is to go by the power brokers. Maybe reversing incorporation is the only way to go. Dump incorporation!
DeleteStop with the facile "solutions," get your brain in gear, do your homework and make practical suggestions that have at least some chance of working. Nobody is doing any good by making remarks based in ignorance. It's easy to look at the flawed surface and think you have the fix because you're such a genius.
DeleteUnincorporating is a very practical solution. Solves more problems than any created by county rule, which would be MUCH better at this point.
DeleteDissolving the city isn't a realistic solution, then we'd have to go back to being unincorporated county and it would be even more of a free-for-all on development and other rules.
DeleteIf people are so dissatisfied, vote in new council and go from there. There's no magic pill. All the pensions won't be unwound overnight.
If county rule is better, why did Encinitas incorporate as a city in 1986? The problem is not that we're a city. It's the people, elected and not, who are running the city.
DeleteYes, the people in office are the problem alright. Problem is that big money rules politics and Encinitas is no different. The general populace is clueless about what goes on at City Hall and believe in Wonder Woman stunts and Muir as "tried and trusted" - he didn't even have to photo-shop his head onto a stud firefighter body to make that ruse fly. Hope and change - doesn't look promising. But at least there aren't any plastic bags in the parking lot.
DeleteIn 1986 no one knew it would end up being run for developers by inept thieves.
ReplyDeleteRancho is county. They have a "covenent" or something that controls land use. For some reason they are not subject to a "free for all".oh that's right, I forgot that American culture worships money uber alles.
DeleteThe Cabezon
What has Encinitas being a "city" done for you? We have a small community with a huge bureaucratic layer of special interest directed self-promoting civil servants. Pension obligations mount and civic projects are mismanaged and priorities misaligned. When less than 10 former city employees draw over a million dollars a year in pension benefits, the future looks very dire for fiscal balance as those number increase. Frankly, I'll take my chances being county.....
DeleteHell, skip the county. Let Encinitas be run by the state. Sacramento is even farther away and less concerned about our town than San Diego is.
DeleteDoes anyone know exactly how Ranch Santa Fe gets away with its elitism? Are they subject to Density Bonus laws as the rest of the cities are? Just curious.
ReplyDeleteRSF is part of the City of SD, so the same way Bel Air doesn't have to have affordable housing in LA goes for RSF.
DeleteHow they get away with their elitism??? Money!!!
DeleteDensity Bonus applies when there are already amenities and entitlements in place: if the County has to drag power and water etc... it does not apply.
DeleteMoney which always influences the Board of Supervisors just like our City Council. The Board will put their high density anywhere besides RSF (like Encinitas if we were county). If you want much higher density, disincorporate.
ReplyDeleteThe density bonus can apply everywhere, although as someone noted earlier, developers don't poop where they live. It's doubtful, for example, that Harwood's RSF neighbors would approve of what he forces on Encinitas so he can afford to live in RSF.
ReplyDeleteThe low-income units allocation is, however, another story. Under Stocks, Encinitas welcomed all the units SANDAG could hand out (how else did Stocks pay back his developer handlers?). Under the current council units have been reduced, but city staff play dumb and quote incorrect, higher allocation numbers to residents.
Bottom line: a bigger allocation is better for developers, the council members they manage, and pension payments.
Rancho Santa Fe is a "convenant" which appears to be different from a city or an unincorporated area. I attempted to see if they were exempt from the density bonus rules, but could not find anything, one way or the other, about it. It is not an unincorporated area, but it is not a city. Can anyone explain why they don't have to provide low income housing? My Googling skills are failing me.
ReplyDeleteWhen I asked those questions about RSF at a town hall meeting, the audience laughed uproariously.
DeleteRSF is part of the city of San Diego. The covenant is part of a homeowners assoc.
Deletehttp://www.ranchosantafereview.com/visitors/neighborhoods/
http://www.rsfassociation.org/pages/map.html
check that, I meant RSF is county of SD. Unincorporated.
DeleteDensity bonus still the oft-repeated "state mandate," doesn't care if you're incorporated or not. So...what gives? They buying their way out of compliance?
DeleteCome on people, use your brains!!!!! Of course density bonus applies to RSF. It's never is an issue because no one wants to change the zoning in the covenant. Most likely the covenant prohibits you from changing the zoning. Like others have said, it's similar to a huge HOA, and everyone pretty much agrees with the rules before they buy in there.
Delete- The Sculpin
And now we have Prop A, so what's the diff between A and the RSF covenant HOA-style rules?
DeleteWhy do RSF residents get to say "no" and Encinitans don't?
When you buy the house, you probably agree to abide with the covenant rules, which probably include no zoning changes.
DeleteThe covenant has been there since the 20's, so they have it figured out. I think that's why you see some of the big houses further to the east in Rancho, in those areas that are outside the covenant....
Spanish Land Grant.
DeleteGood questions. Maybe Marco should support some RSF developer willing to upset a few to make a killing in "affordable" condo prices in RSF.
ReplyDeleteScupin- If they have a choice in RSF to not rezone, don't we have the same choice as a CIty?
ReplyDeleteAdding to Dr Lori;s comment: Wasn't that what Prop. A was all about?
ReplyDeleteSculpin has it wrong. Rancho Santa Fe is under county jurisdiction. It's not a separate city like Encinitas. The county can put the affordable housing in lots of other areas. Residents in RSF have huge political clout and get what they want. It's the developers with clout in Encinitas who get what they want.
ReplyDeleteEncinitas is more constrained in meeting the state affordable housing requirements. Add in a timid city council and a city manager with a voracious appetite for more revenue, and the result is lots of development.. Prop. A does allow us to vote, but we still need to show the council and city manager that we mean business. The city needs to challenge the RHNA numbers and do an amnesty for illegal units.
And vote NO on anything the city puts on the ballot in 2014 or 2016.
I think we're saying the same thing. Technically, all of the county is subject to density bonus - which includes RSF. Because the county can meet its obligations outside of RSF doesn't mean that RSF is exempt. It's just ridiculously impractical to push a density bonus project in RSF. Other than that, I agree with you - except for the "vote no" part. I will wait to see what they put on before deciding what my vote will be.
Delete- The Sculpin
1:35, do you have an illegal unit? Just asking for clarity. I can understand where that makes sense from a housing standpoint, but I can also see how certain people have a personal, vested interest in that happening....
Delete3:08: No, I don't have an illegal unit, but I've handed out flyers in many areas of the city where I have seen them, especially near the coast. If they're there, why shouldn't we get credit for them from the HCD? Only a developer wouldn't want they counted to meet our affordable housing allotment.
DeleteSculpin: RSF is exempt in the sense that Olivenhain would be exempt if the city had a policy to always put affordable housing allotments in other parts of the city, e.g. the El Camino Real or 101 corridors. The city has that discretion, exactly as the county has the discretion to not put low-income housing in RSF.
I hope Marco supports some developer putting density bonus in Rancho Sante Fe. Once its being built in their back yard and on their radar, maybe the issue will get attention it deserves and the laws will be changed.
DeleteJust like what happened in Olivenhain. Olivenhain activists did say boo when all this density bonus subdivisions were going in in Leucadia. All of a sudden they get their first and they are screaming "fire".
The same would happen in RSF and all those high powered lawyers, CEOs, developers, Judges, Doctors, and OLD MONEY would wake up and get the law change.
Come on Marco G., Please take on a density bonus case in RSF.
We know you have balls, but do you have Grande Bolas? I hope some lawyer does. What come around goes around.
Our City Council won't do shit except hold hands and let Sad Sac run us into the ground. Its up to us to vote in some new blood that will get things happen. Lisa and Tony have proved to be ineffective at implementing any needed change. They are happy to play the puppet politician and go along with parade.
You are both wrong about Rancho Santa Fe.
DeleteCould you explain, for everyone, the RHNA acronym?
DeleteRegional Housing Needs Assessment
Deletehttp://www.scag.ca.gov/programs/pages/housing.aspx
Delete6:57, if they owners have to "acknowledge" those units, they're also going to owe some back taxes and permitting fees.
DeleteI doubt those owners like to see you coming through with the flyers....
D'oh, no back taxes or penalties...that's the whole point of amnesty, dude!
Delete1:35 - as accurate a summary as can be!
ReplyDeleteAs per an FOI request here is an official copy of Vina's Cabinet. I also asked for 3 years worth of Sabine's billings. More on that later.
ReplyDeleteCABINET TEAM
1. Jeff Murphy - Planning and Building Director
2. Glenn Pruim - Engineering and Public Works Director
3. Lisa Rudloff – Park & Rec Director
4. Kathy Hollywood - City clerk
5. Mike Daigle - Fire Chief
6. Captain Hawley - Sheriff’s Department
7. Courtney Barrett - HR Manager
8. Lynne Tuffs - IT Manager
9. Jace Schwarm - Risk Department
10. Glenn Sabine - City Attorney
11. Gus Vina - City Manager
12. Richard Phillips - Assistant City Manager
Thanks Dr. Lori!
DeleteCall this the Pen$ion Pig Pen.......OINK!!!
DeleteNext question I will ask is "what is the criterion for people to be on the Cabinet" And, why is Sabine on it?
ReplyDeleteI notice the art director isn't on it? ANyone know why?
Deletebecause its not a needed position to run a well run city. Cut him and the spin doctor and you have over $200,000 more for projects. $1,000,000 more every five years. That was easy!
ReplyDeleteWhy isn't the spin doctor on the Cabinet?
ReplyDeleteNot trained enough yet. She was only hired in slightly under $100k. They need to push her pay up to $120k before putting her in the cabinet.
ReplyDeleteI thought we wanted people to come out of the closet. Now we are putting them in the Cabinet. Crazy world we live in?
Her pay is not slightly under $100k. Maybe we should have hired you as the spin dr. Her pay if probably around $75k a year.....
ReplyDeleteI agree we don't need that position, but you keep altering the facts to make your case, which is really ironic when you're criticizing someone for being a Spin Dr.:
Communications City of Encinitas Communications Officer $68,761 to $96,754 A completed application packet is required and must be received in HR by 7/10/13. Contact HR at or visit or apply at City Hall, 505 South Vulcan Avenue, Encinitas, CA 92024 EOE. This job has originated from a member site of TheJobNetwork - U-T San egory: Marketing, Advertising & Business Dev., Keywords: Full Time...
Her total pay package is slightly under $92,000, which includes health and pension benefits. That's what it costs the taxpayer. So her pay is closer to $100.000 than $75,000.
DeleteYou have to add in all.city expenses to support her as well overhead multiplier . Her costs are well over $110k per year.
DeleteMost of us are not as stupid as Lynn and Sheila. Please.
Does she get a city phone?? ChaChing!! Taxpayers pay that.
DeleteDoes she work out of city hall using power, phone , paper , ink, computer, toilet paper, water ....ChaChing!! Taxpayer pay that.
I am done subsidizing this city and it's over paid and over pensioned staff. I'm going to use all the plastic bags and bottles I want and waste all the damn resources I desire. If I pay for them I'll do what I want with them .
Dump the city.
Horseshit, do you count your package that way at work? I sure as hell don't. And that's not how it's commonly understood. It's pay + benefits. So probably $70-75k + benefits.
ReplyDeleteLet's agree we don't need the position and the taxpayers are paying for it. After that, it's redundant.
Um, hello! As taxpayers, WE count the spin doctor's pay+benefits that way. Who cares how the Dr. counts her income?? It's what comes out of our taxes, that's the number residents care about.
Delete3:18 pm Have you ever done a payroll? Salary and benefits are always calculated together. It's the basic cost of an employee. Broader costs of running a business are more difficult to calculate because some costs are not proportional to the number of employees. It's like a household with one or two people living under the same roof. Property taxes stay the same, but costs like gas, lights, and water go up, but they don't double.
DeleteIt will be interesting to see what exactly this person does. So far, I haven't seen anything. However, according to Lisa Shaffer's newsletter she will be presenting something at, I think, the next Council meeting. Should be interesting as to what her job description really is. Anyone up to an FOI request?
ReplyDeleteGus is bringing this city down just like Stockton and Sacramento.
ReplyDeleteInstead of cutting staff costs, he is growing them. Now he has to sell out our quality of life to high density like a crack whore selling her soul to pay for her bad habits.
We need to stop our little crack whore.
City Council wake up , we know what's happening and you are supposed to be acting in our best interests.
So far this year I'm not impressed and don't see much difference between u and $tock$.