Tuesday, February 24, 2015

Barber angry over mural depicting immigrants arriving by boat



10 News:
A business owner in Encinitas is up in arms over a mural painted on a neighboring 7-11 convenience store.

The mural depicts a group of people -- who appear to be immigrants -- arriving on shore in a boat, one of them with a backpack in hand.

The business owner believes the image is offensive and should be taken down.

10News Reporter Vanessa Van Hyfte is talking to folks in Encinitas and will have reaction at 5 p.m.

95 comments:

  1. The artist thought he was depicting the diversity of the community, but illegal entry is controversial, to say the least. Probably too hot to handle at this particular time - I'm surprised the 7-11 owner allowed it, as you don't want to "alienate" any customers.

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    1. 7-11 has a special on water wings!

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  2. Is this the store over by Trader Joe's?

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    1. It's the D Street 7-11.

      Beautiful 3-panel mural. See it before it's gone!

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    2. Coast Hwy and D St.

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  3. Do a mural of an illegal immigrant running away from a Metrolink rail crash, dropping his State issued drivers license.

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  4. Next addition - the surfing Statue of Liberty!

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  5. I'm confused.

    Is the barber Latino? It seems like the people most offended by an ever-present reminder of illegal panga crossings would be the Latino community.

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    1. Have a mural of Cesar Chavez body surfing.

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    2. Have him doing a tandem with the Surfing Madonna - she is PC!

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  6. Perhaps the barber would prefer a painting of george Bush in his flight suit standing in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

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    1. George Bush welcomed home sailors from deployment. On the ship was a banner made to support and welcome home those sailors stating mission accomplished. As those brave sailors had returned from their mission the sign was appropriate.

      The slandering rumor mongering liberal leftist press that is intent on lying and misleading america misrepresented the facts and fabricated the inetntion

      Yes - Brian the lying Williams was involved

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    2. There is an old saying in politics:

      "If you are explaining, you are losing."

      The image speaks for itself. That's why presidents are not spontaneous. They have media-savvy advance teams that consider both the symbolism and the substance of any appearance before the president or press arrive on scene.

      Huge fail. That picture will be in history books. Perhaps unfairly, but it is what it is.

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    3. 10:05 PM You omit the facts that Georgie said major combat operations were over, and that the coalition had prevailed - that provided the theme for "Mission Accomplished". It was intended as an overriding statement for the entire fiasco, not just a localized greeting for a few sailors. Get on your brown shirt and goose step back to your computer and Goggle the facts.

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    4. 7:53 Wrong- try again

      A boat returned. The boat had sailors. The sailors were more brabe then either you or I. The sailros family sacrificed more than either you or I. The boat, and the sailors- accomplished their mission

      You are filled with partisan hate and rhetoric - liberalism is a mental disease mixed with blindness. the disease feeds itself with lies, misinformation to mislead others in hopes of justifying itself-

      I don't like Bush, I won't be voting for Jeb, I voted for Obama and gave money to him in 2008- Obama has been an unmitigated disaster-

      Keep telling yourself the lies if they make you feel good- say hello to Brian Williams- he lives lots of lives

      as for the Mission Accomplished sign- it was for sailor adn theri families- who you denigrate to make yourself feel superior- good luck overcoming your insecurities -

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    5. ". . . lberalism is a mental disease mixed with blindness."

      ". . . I voted for Obama and gave him money in 2008. . ."

      Riiiiiiiiight.

      Either you are really really bad at voting, or you are really really bad at making up silly lies to create an illusion of credibility.

      Either way, no one is going to take you seriously.

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    6. lot's of independent voters donated to and voted for Obama - and came to regret it. I lost my health plan, I lost my doctor, my premiums went up 80% my coverage went down, the world is less safe today thanks to his lack of leadership and decision making, the country is more divided thanks to his partisianship

      it is what it is - and yes, liberalism is a mental disorder, and inability to see things as they truly are

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    7. Did any of you actually see Bush's speech? He said the mission itself was over, not just for that group. Its not propaganda, he said it, just like the "they tried to kill my daddy" speech. Please, know what you're talking about before you go after others. Thank you.

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    8. 9:38

      the poster was for the sailors and their families

      You can lie and try to spin it howver you want to make yourself feel superior do to wahtever insecurities your lugging about

      facts are facts- god bless our troops

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  7. perhaps a picture of a single mom with 6 kids in tow at the grocery store with her food stamps credit card.

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    1. Wow, high level discourse tonight. Looks like a good quality mural. Bottom line, it won't affect business, and obviously the 7-11 is ok with it. Move on...

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    2. The "outrage" is similar to the sometimes violent reactions of Italian Americans when the truth of what Columbus really did is shown the light of day. It's like the American exceptionalism meme.
      Just pretend it's OK.

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    3. Paint a surfboard under it and call it Jose Kook.

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    4. Kookcaracha Kook.

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  8. It appears that Encinitas has finally gone over to the monied people who have nothing better to do than to trash a beautiful mural. I know we cannot go back in time, but there was a time that this mural would have been considered beautiful. Now we live in a city that has too many people with too much time on their monied hands. I live in a "side by side" and we just put up a new fence and paid for it ourselves because the owner of the other half of the "side by side" didn't want to pay, even though he has more money that my husband and I combined. The person that did the fence left a few pieces of wood in the alley, on our property, and he just called saying it needs to be removed immediately. I asked what the problem was, and he said that he gets $4000.00 monthly for his rental and the renters don't like the wood in the back of our yard. I said we will remove it this weekend, and he said it needs to be done more quickly than that. It is not a fire threat, nor is it in the alley but actually on our property. We have always tried to get along with the people who own the other half, but a new person bought it and is not as cordial about much of anything. When I asked if he would like to pay for the fence, as it benefitted him as well, he said NO! So much for people getting along here in the New Monied Encinitas.

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    1. Do a Vilkin on him.....

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    2. Ignore him - he can't demand anything.

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    3. 7:38 Since it was you who wanted the new fence, it is up to you to pay for it. Don't expect someone else to lay out the dough for you.

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    4. 7:47- I would agree, except he wanted it too. He just didn't want to pay for it, and it was falling down. So, we hired someone to do it thinking he would pay, but it turns out that he says he didn't have to, which is technically true. It would seem the neighborly thing to do, but he is a lawyer so I am not going to send him a bill. His wife had already agreed to pay, but I guess his word is the final one in his home.

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    5. A lawyer? No wonder you're getting the attitude. Arrogant, pretentious stink - leave the lumber where it is.

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  9. What barber shop is this?

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  10. Encinitas is getting that Orange county attitude. Rich entitled, or like a recently dethroned mayor, poor and wanting. Neither side of those scales contribute to Encinitas. The rest of us seem to get along just fine with each other.

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  11. Getting? Its had the OC rot for years. At least 15 if not 20 years. North County used to be laid back…. now its just like San Clemente, Dana Point, Laguna and Irvine.

    With Developers and Scum Attorneys pushing for profits and the complacent public, this place will look, feel, and smell like Huntington Beach in no time.

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    1. WOW Crappy Pappy, for once I agree with you.

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  12. Nice job. Gotem thinkn.
    Crazy talk.

    There are no grounds to remove this art. It is a wonderful gift to the community and expertly crafted by a very talented artist. It expertly depicts an event. Is captures a moment in the eye of the artist that he shares with those that get to view the message. The artist is not judging. He is communication.
    Art, like music, is a pure form of communication. It transcends race, religion, color, age or time.
    I would encourage all to view the art and if it makes you think, care, laugh or cry, then it has worth.
    There is no offense offered.
    Take none.

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  13. The mural is on private property, isn't it? In that case, what the barber says doesn't matter.

    If he tries to sue, I'd be shocked if a court found in his favor unless it meets a community standards test of indecency, which this mural does not.

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  14. I love this piece. All of us, except Native Americans, were at one time immigrants. What is wrong with all of the people who ave become so rigid that they cannot even enjoy a beautiful piece of art?

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    1. I was never an immigrant - in fact most american citizens are born here in the usa- your statement all of us are immigrants is factually incorrect

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    2. 9:10, Perhaps "indigenous" was intended.

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    3. It may be on private property but it it is in a very high profile location. This would be a neat piece for a private gallery, not in a high traffic area representing our city. Yes our ancestors immigrated here, most of them legally. Would you like to see a public display of your ancestors crossing illegally into the country? It may not be racist but it is definitely political. The "joke" is it's insensitive to hispanics and meant to intimidate whites (not the wealthy ones, just the middle class ones). Another dopey elite Obama-bot joke.

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    4. "Would you like to see a public display of your ancestors crossing illegally into the country?"

      You mean whites invading the new land? Think I've seen plenty of illustrations of that in text books. Hey, its history. Maybe the local paper should stop reporting boat loads of people illegally disembarking here in Encinitas then too. It's happened a lot over the last 10 years here and they abandon the boat. And the helicopters dog them all night long for people trying to sleep on the coast. That's life, and like it or not, the mural is a pretty good depiction of 3 aspects of our city. Not to mention beautifully done.

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    5. Yes I agree, the 3rd mural of 2 young whites practically being pushed off a cliff by big development is a good depiction of our city.

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  15. Oh go cut some more hair and shut up. Opinions are like a-holes, and everybody's got one. It's a piece of art and if you don't like it, don't look at it.

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  16. People are too easily offended and outraged.

    Dear Barber, pace yourself. One day, there will be a real issue in your life worth foaming at the mouth over, but you'll be all out of foam.

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  17. Hey oversensitive barber, are you trying to put yourself out of business? I can assure you you have lost a customer or two. Keep this rant up and more and more will have nothing to do with you.

    Here is a thought for you to consider about that mural. Just imagine that doryman is Tommy Lewis rescuing some stranded and desperate souls lost at sea. You can always put up some kind wall or window hanging and block the sight of this mural. Out of sight, out of mind.

    There are two thoughts that can make you a happier person. I am sure more can be brought forward by all the creative minds we have around here.

    Thanks barber for the inspiration.

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  18. How about a mural of the homeless pooping in the bushes behind a business. Our a group of Heroin thugs hanging out at D-street breaking into cars.

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    1. How about one of people jumping to their death in front of speeding trains?

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  19. 6:03 am. I guess it is telling where your mind is at if that is all you can come up with as an example of your boundless creativity.

    Then again, considering the grammatical error and the attitude expressed, it is sounding more like our former mayor of a few years ago. Expectations in that case are never too high and reside at his lownesses' typical underground level of consciousness.

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  20. Hmmm, looks more like an image from Encinitas history.
    During prohibition, Moonlight was a great place for rum runners to land.
    http://www.sdheritage.org/prohibition.html

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    1. Illegal beach landings by while people = heritage
      illegal beach landings by brown people = outrage

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    2. Talented artist, provocative piece, wrong venue.
      Hypersensitive= the new common sense.

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  21. 11:15, Problem solved for the thin skinned. Just turn everyone on the boat into white zombies and no one will complain. .

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    1. Obama just came out and said "we've expanded my authority"

      The new king -laws don't matter. Illegal? no undocumented that's all

      There were no illegal landings by "white people" Pilgrims broke no laws

      by the way- Illegal immigration has nothing to do with skin color and everyhting to do with the law-

      sound like you hate white people because they are white- thta would make you - right, a racist

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    2. Hey, if Congress won't do its job, the President has to step in and "get 'er done". He's totally within his authority here, and the Texas case will not make it through appeals - Judge Hanen ruled only on the procedural point that Obama's new policy was implemented in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act. This act requires that the government get public reaction before implementing a new policy or program. It's an arcane and technical argument that has nothing to do with immigration policy. The government countered that this isn't a new policy at all, and they're perfectly within their rights to choose how to exercise enforcement of current policy, and because it's current policy, not new policy, it's not subject to review by the courts and does not have to go through the APA procedures. Slam dunk overturn at appeals.

      - The Sculpin

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    3. Sculpin,

      Isn't unilaterally creating a new work permit program a bit more than prosecutorial discretion?

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    4. Nope. Immigration policy and enforcement falls to the executive branch. Congress does not enforce immigration laws precisely because it is a body comprised of the states. All it has is the purse strings. Immigration, and national defense, is purely a federal matter.

      - The Sculpin

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    5. What Congress can do is refuse to fund it. Then the implementation dies

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    6. 2:37 - Perhaps. Congress does not have line item authority, therefore the executive branch can just shift monies around. Regardless, enforcement of this particular area is paid from by fees, and fees are not subject to Congressional action. Basically, Obama has the House and conservative-right republicans in a box, they can't do a damn thing about it, and they're pissed as hell.

      - The Sculpin

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    7. what a joke-

      "The Texas case will not make it thru appeals" you can always tell those with a disorder when they make pronouncements as facts- when in reality they are opinions-

      Expanded my authority?

      Even Bush went to Congress for approval

      The rules don't apply to the King- he does whaever he wants

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    8. enforcement- he has enforced immigration-

      instead he has acted unliaterally to open borders-

      hundreds of thousands from central america flooded the country under the King- they are given housing , food, education, ID- and wait for- the opportunity to vote

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    9. 3:32 et. al., here is a link to all of Mr. Bush's executive orders - that's where he didn't go to Congress for approval. I'm sure someone out there will think some of these are excellent examples of overreach. Knock yourself out.
      http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/orders/

      - The Sculpin

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    10. 4:03 Perhaps you should change your name to "smoke blower"

      A lawsuit has been filed that Obama exceeded his authority and upheld in Texas

      Bush did go to congress for use of force in Iraq - Hillary and Biden supported it.

      The king acted unilaterally in Libya - now our ambassador was assassinated by the muslm Islamists, our embassy over run and Christians slaughtered

      The king blamed a video and the state run press backed him up

      Can you show us where Bush said "we have expanded my authority" looking forward to the information

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    11. 6:12 - I already have. if you don't want to do the work, then you don't get the spoils. Yes, a lawsuit has been filed, but nothing has been upheld. That occurs at the appeals level, not the trial level. Sure, you can quibble about semantics, but an understanding of how our justice system works is crucial to being able to debate its results and consequences.
      In the same vein, the President is not a King...period. Referring to the office as such only biases your arguments. I have never thought any of our Presidents were Kings.
      Sure, Bush went to Congress. Yes, Hillary and Biden supported it. So did most of the country. What's your point? We should ignore that that request was based on faulty (flat out wrong) intelligence?
      Libya - that was within the purview of the executive branch. No different than any other President. Johnson and Reagan come to mind.
      And if you think the press is state run, then I have to seriously question where you get your information, and what kind of diligence you do to make sure it's accurate.

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    12. Sculpin= mooch worthless creature of the sea. I do see the resemblance.

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    13. Like an attorney.

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    14. Sculpin . Aka 'Smoke blower" might want to read the NY Times. 2 Weeks ago buried inside was a report that more than 300 chemical weapons, warheads and sarin bombs were dismantled and destroyed by US and Iraqi forces - proving that in fact Saddam Hussain did have WMD'S - the report went on to say that some in the Bush white house wanted to publicize it, but Bush would not let them while Bush had asked congress for approval the King did not - tth

      Sculpin would prefer we ignore Obama wrongly blaming a video for the assassination of the US ambassador in Lybia and ignore the press that covered it up - last week Muslin Jihadi's cut the heads of 21 christians

      Scuplin also wants us to take his opinion as facts - referencing appeals court will over rule texasTexas courts because he wants them to, not because they have

      Sculpin wants us to ignore the courts verdict - like we should ignore the hundreds of thousands illegal criminalscriminals from central america who have invaded ourborders - and now have the opportunity to vote - illegally

      is liberalism a mental disease? Don't know - but I do know facts, facts always tell the truth to those willing to listen

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    15. Hello Facthrower! I was wondering when you would return. Nice discussion but alas, your mind is far too made up to have any kind of dialogue. Enjoy the day!

      - The Sculpin

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    16. "Smoke Blower" Sculpin-

      full of opinions, empty on facts

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    17. 9:54- I googled that NY Times article and it is all there- the NY Times reports on February 15 20154 that the USA and Iraqi soliders in 2005 and 2006 destroyed some 300 chemical weapons warheads and sarin gas bombs- WMD's

      the very thing you claimed in your 8:16 post the claims fo WMD's were flat out wrong- looks like you are the one who was wrong-, along with John Stewert, Brian "Lying" Williams, Candy Crowley, Brokaw, Rather, Matthews, Maddow, Ifil-

      will you now admit that there were WMD's? The NY Times has, what say you? Will you apologize or continue to perpetuate the lie?

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    18. concisepolitics.com? Americanthinker.com? Really? This is what you cite as credible facts? They, my friend, are in the business of spin. Now, the NYT article states "Many rockets were in poor condition and some were empty or held a nonlethal liquid, the officials said. But others contained the nerve agent sarin, which analysis showed to be purer than the intelligence community had expected given the age of the stock."

      So the sarin was there, but not he delivery system.

      It goes on to say "These munitions were remnants of an Iraqi special weapons program that was abandoned long before the 2003 invasion, and they turned up sporadically during the American occupation in buried caches, as part of improvised bombs or on black markets."

      That doesn't really sound like the same kind of threat that Sec Powell described at the UN, does it?

      And the worst part is this - "“If we were aware of these compounds, and as it became clear over the course of the war that our troops had been exposed to them, why wasn’t more done to protect the guys on the ground?” he said. “It speaks to the broader failure.”

      So yes, I'll admit there were some form of WMD's over there, but it was no different now then it was back then - everyone knew there was a stockpile of something, that it would be old, useless, and obsolete, and nothing to really go to war over. The quality of the sarin was a surprise, but honestly - with no delivery system? How useful could that be?

      So now I have considered your cites and read the same articles as you. Based on "the facts" presented, we have come to 2 very different conclusions. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

      - The Sculpin

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    19. Sculpin

      You have been as they say "outed" "exposed" - yet you continue to tap dance around the bonfire in hopes of dusting up another smoke screen

      THe 2015 NY Times article states that in 2005 weapons of WMD's were found in Iraq ( which you earlier claimed were non-existent)

      you quote from the 2015 article that "Rockets.....contained the nerve agent sarin, which analysis showed to be purer than the intelligence community had expected. ( earlier at 8:18 you had posted the intelligence was wrong? -

      now at 11:40 you admit that the WMD's not only were there- they were stronger than expected!

      You then attempt to distract from the facts that not only were there WMD's in Iraq and that they were stronger then expected by claiming and expecting us to believe there was no delivery systems-

      You would have us ignore the importance that these WMD's were showing up on the black market and as you write as "Improvised bombs"- of course we all know that "improvised bombs" means they have a delivery systems - it is called a dirty bomb

      There is no difference of opinion.

      Facts are there wwere massive amounts of chemical and gas WMD's in Iraq-

      NBC, CBS, PBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Comedy Central, NY Times, WSJ, Time, US weekly, the Economist for years promoted and continue to promote the lie that there were no WMD's.

      You choose to ignore the facts, I choose to see them as they are.


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    20. OK - let's step back a bit.......remind me, why does this matter? What's the end game here?

      - The Sculpin

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  22. 6:03, Or the backside of Kerry Miller's car, bidding him a fond farewell?

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  23. 6:03am- or Kerry miller Muir, and Gus vina laughing hysterically while making their huge deposits at the bank.

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  24. 12:41, I LOVE that restoration by the Spanish Nun! But Jesus doesn't need a boat.

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  25. Brown people arriving in the US by boat in California: the end of the world.

    Brown people arriving in the US by boat in Florida (who happen to vote Republican): freedom fighters. Let's give them full access to benefits, green cards, and a pathway to citizenship.

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  26. 8:55 boat people fleeing a dictator named Castro - a communist

    Obama embraces the communists - not surprising one day before the King recognizes the commie king - the commie passes a law of 80% tax on residents - look it up

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    1. 9:20,

      Given your strong position on communism, Can we be assured your house is free of any goods made in red China?

      In fact, isn't it interesting that nearly all of the remaining communist countries are the ones we shot at? Nothing like a shooting war to redouble and entrench an ideology. Meanwhile, economic engagement with Eastern Europe seemed to result in remarkable political and human rights changes. Even China is making significant changes, as their workers come to understand and demand the rights and privleges that come with a developed economy. Isolation and confrontation has achieved nothing in Cuba--how long should we continue a failed policy?

      As for immigration policy, are you seriously saying that Cuban refugees are escaping anything worse than the violence and poverty endemic to places like Honduras? If communism is an automatic ticket to US benefits and citizenship, then why don't we offer the same treatment to Venesualans?

      The fact is, Cubans represent a reliable voting block in a swing state that effects national elections. The special treatment for Cubans is a naked attempt to game elections to delay the demographic inevitability of Republican decline.

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    2. 6:13

      News out today from the Department of Public Safety in Texas in a report printed in the Houston Paper that Islamic Jihadist Muslims- you know, the guys cutting the heads of christians, enslaving woman, selling children and committing geonicde and the destruction of Judeo Christian Culture

      yeah- well they have been crossing the Texas border with the Amnesty Central American criminals and the Mexico cartels

      The King- Obama, does not believe in enforcing the laws we have to protect us -- as he said yesterday "we have expanded my authority"

      As for communism- read the goals of the communist party as entered into the congressional record in 1963- you will see the goals of the comunist- people like like frank marshall davis, saul Alinskly who were mentors to Obama- the communist wanted to destroy america from within- interesting goals of the communist

      1. get america under the control of UN-
      2. De-ball the american male-
      3. remove the american male as leader of the household and family
      4. Promote promiscuity to weaken the american family
      5. Gain control of tv, film, radio and editorial boards to shape public thought
      6. Promote from within weakinging america militarily
      7. Infiltrate churches to shape public thought to weaken the american family and culture of values
      8. Promote feminsism and matriacrchial society to weaken the american male
      9. Gain control of both houses of congress and the senate

      Interesting that Putin has unlimited ability to expand his territory agression in Eastern Europe to expand the territory of Mother Russia- just saying - facts not opinions please

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    3. Wow. 1963, you say? You are the last Japanese soldier, fighting for Sen McCarthy years after the war is over.

      As for terrorists crossing the border, please connect the dots. Tell us how prioritizing enforcement resources to focus more attention on bad actors is actually the opposite. Every INS resource that is working on deportation of the mother of a combat veteran is a resource that is not focused on deporting a violent felon or potential terrorist.

      The president is exercising prosecutorial discretion, just like Reagan--just like GHWB. Were they also extra-consitiutional kings?

      http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/219463-when-reagan-and-ghw-bush-took-bold-executive-action-on

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    4. 9:52-

      Liberalism is a mental disease? I don't know. You ignore the goals of the communist party in 1963 to justify your own contribution to the degradation of the American Family, the education system and the increase in American poverty, children without parents and a violent me first selfish society-

      My eyes are open. We have immigration laws on the books. Obama and members of both parties would rather ignore the laws and promote open borders to continue to loss of the american culture

      Obama and the democrats had control of both the house, senate and oval office in 2008 and did nothing to solve the border problem or put forth a plan-

      not Obama is acting with "We have expanded my authority?

      Here in San Diego the communist socialist in Mexic are beginning to dominate locat radio broadcast from Baja- 92.7 hip hop and 1090 AM all broadcast over, and over, and over, and over, over- about the Mexican government is here for the people blah, blah- it is subversive- ahnd it is a prep to woo the sheeple into complacency

      Ignore the facts at your own peril, or open your eyes and see them for what they are

      ps- bush left office 7 years ago- let it go

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    5. (sigh)

      9:52, you are a lost cause. The Red Scare is over. It turns out, we won, and communism was neither as prevalent nor as powerful as we thought. It's a flawed ideology that works only on paper. In the real world it falls apart if left alone.

      And the reference to Bush was 41, not 43. You would know that if you read and comprehend.

      Good luck with your witch hunt.

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    6. 11:41-

      you did not respond to any of the goals of the communist party of 1963- why"

      Communist Goal- Gain control of editorial boards, films, tv, radio, university and churches to shape public opinion and control public thought-

      * Last year Hirsi Ali- a Christian convert for Islam who speaks out for woman's rights and against the hate and atrocites of Islam was scheduled to speak at Weslyan University- until the thought Police gained control and prevented her from speaking- 1 week later teeange christian girls were kidnapped by the Muslim Jihadist Boko Haram and sold into muslim sexual slavery- Reverend WRight and Father Phelger- churches advocating socialism and dependence on the state- the Catholic church- advocating illegal immigration

      2. Weaken the American male as head of the family to weaken the country- TV shows, films, media portray the american male as the bufoon and incompetent- (Modern Family etc) books and speakers backed by the press promote the power of woman and celebration of feminsism- male masculinity is devalued and degraded from elementary schools to the workplace to the household.

      3. Infiltrate both houses of congress- today there is little difference between Democrats and Republicans and little legistalation of benefit from either party to help the country

      4. Weaken america militarily by ceding control to the UN- THe UN led the screw up in Lybia- the result is the US Ambasssador murdered and Muslim Islamic Jihadi's cut the heads of 21 Christians

      The Communist state is alive and well- headed by Comrad Vladimir Putin- he is taking over the Ukraine and eastern Europe, and neither the US nor the UN are able to stop him.

      You may choose to turn a blind eye to these facts-

      common sense people are not joining you

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    7. If you think today's Russia is communist, then you understand neither Russia nor communism.

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    8. An opponent of Comrad Vladimir Putin was gunned down a day before speaking out against the communist leader-

      just like the goold ol' days, meet the new boss same as the old boss

      who will stop Putin and the communist russian expansion into Eastern Europe-

      the UN?

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    9. I think you are confusing communism with brutality.

      United Russia (Putin's Party) has no consistent ideology, other than the consolidation of power. Privatization of petro-chemical companies is an obvious example of a policy 180 out of phase with communism. It benefits the oligarchs, who return the favor with political and economic support for United Russia.

      Putin is a brutal and violent leader steeped in Cold War nationalism, but he's no communist idealogue.

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    10. so- thanks for clearing up for us that in COmrad Vladimir Putin's communist russia it is the government that holds all power not the rule of law- sounds like, jeez- communism

      "We have expanded my authority"- BH Obama February 24th 2015

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  27. Ignore the momentary criticism and it will die down - leave the mural in place.

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  28. Enough already of this so far off the topic rant. What does any of this have to do with the beautiful wall mural under discussion?

    This is same person who brought forth Agenda 21 last year and again that had nothing to do with the columns discussion at the time.

    WC, would it be possible to have an off topic column where he could rant to his hearts content so the rest of us could focus on the topic at hand?

    I found out who this Agenda 21 character was back then and when I can remember and confirm with another trusted citizen, I will out him publicly, if he keeps this crap up.

    If there was a space where such disillusioned paranoid souls could rant to their hearts content, that would be preferable than having the rest of us subjected to off topic rants like this Tea Party nut job professes. He is a card carrying Tea Party member as I remember that clearly from the one time I was at a small meeting and he was there using the opportunity to further his wacko perspective.

    An off topic column for such misguided souls or some timely editing? What do you think WC? I am eternally grateful for the forum you provide here for the dispensing of news we cannot get elsewhere.

    The Coast News used to be our only reliable source and I hope it will again with an editor other than Tony Cagala. I miss Mary Fleeners on target drawings. Bring her back.

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    1. Simple solution - scroll past the ranting.

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  29. To the complaining barber, you are a full block away from this mural. What is your problem? I went by there earlier for a close up look.

    Can you see Russia from your barber shop?

    What a tempest in a teapot. Your business must be hurting if you don't have a better use of your time than to complain about a mural you and your few customers you have left don't ever have to look at from a full block away.

    It takes all kinds and we certainly have them here. I went into the 7-11 and let them know that except for a few miscreants, there is overwhelming support for this installation and he appreciated the support.

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  30. WOW ..... this thread degenerated into a bunch of nonsense quickly ..... what does any of this have to do with that mural on private property??

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