Wednesday, January 27, 2016

1/27/16 City Council meeting open thread

The current city council has continued prior councils' practice of not providing written summary minutes of council discussion, but only "action minutes" which state the outcomes. Encinitas Undercover will provide a forum for observers to record what occurs at each council meeting.

Please use the comments to record your observations.

60 comments:

  1. Let's see what the council can muck up tonight.

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    1. Let's see what gets sabotaged by City Staff. Will we have a replay of last week or has the City Manager grown some Cajones to manage that bunch?

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    2. Why the council hasn't figured out that "staff" is a dangerous combination of inept and scheming is anybody's guess.

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  2. Starting with a photo op. That they know how to do.

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  3. Leucadia Towing is important to our community. What will the five idiots decide?

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    1. Really? A towing company? The planning commission found rightly that this use was not shown to be compatible with the neighborhood. Sounds good to me. There are residences in the area. Interesting that Gene Chapo is representing the towing company. He was once on the planning commission. Seems like we have a revolving door problem. I credit the planning commission from seeing through this ruse.

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    2. I dare say the noise from the freeway is much more of a problem for this neighborhood. Should the cars on the freeway be banned to not disturb these finicky people who should have bought their home elsewhere?

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    3. Freeway noise is different than tow trucks. It seems planning commission can't win. Either they listen to the residents too much or too little.

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    4. The towing company should be a compatible use for that zoning and that area. Nearby business owners also supported Leucadia Towing's appeal.

      Whether or not it would be compatible is a matter of opinion. Shaffer and Kranz were correct on this issue, as well as speakers Gene Chapo and Sheila Cameron.

      Mark Muir seemed concerned that the Fire Dept. could handle the car lock-outs. There would be very few impounds. The noise from the EDCO trucks is related to current City usage. The towing trucks woiuldn't be parked on the grounds overnight.

      Catherine Blakespear was the swing vote on this one. She wanted Leucadia Towing to come back to ask for the permit with the condition that the yard would not be used for any impounds. I hope Leucadia Towing, which has been a good neighbor and friend to many, can work this out.

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  4. As I found out after the fact, the irritating back up beeping by large trucks can be easily disengaged when on site. That should make a huge difference to the neighbors since that is what they themselves brought up as the most objectionable part of having towing operation located there. Edco is already there????? They too could disengage the beeping when on site. How about this, fellow citizens? Is it enough to make a difference?

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    1. Good idea, 9:22. Yes, that could be part of the conditioning of the permit. A towing yard is a permitted use, in the present zoning. A permit should be granted, with reasonable conditions.

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  5. LIfe guard tower is a $3 million dollar travesty which will end Kranz political happening.

    Everyone knows we don't want structures on the beach where we should have towel space. Any lifeguard tower on the beach should be temporary.

    Surfrider let us all down on this one. No more big donations from me.

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    1. It is sooo nice. Look at the number of rooms and the amenities. It doesn't resemble a workplace. The $3 estimate was 5 years ago. Of course, there is no inflation.

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  6. There was a little bait and switch in the request for a place to park the trucks which morphed into an impound yard. The owner of Leucadia Towing wants to expand his business with a contract with the Sheriff or Highway Patrol. Impound yards required major outdoor lighting and security such as barbed wire and razor wire. There is only one entrance and exit and left turns may be prohibited requiring the truck driver to travel down Santa Fe Dr. to El Camino Real to make a turn. As an impound yard, it would be open 24/7.

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  7. Where the fuck is CCC on this issue. Keep structures off the beach!!!

    this structure takes our beach and does nothing for beach safety.

    Waste of money and waste of beach space.

    Waste of staff time and waste of money.

    What a ton of crap. Everyone knows structures don't belong in the surfzone. Moffet and Nichols are sell outs. Anything for profit right.

    Moffet and Nichols are evil against nature coast line. You can see in this presenters eyes he has no belief in his words. He knows he is speaking BS. Poor sell out soul.

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  8. Surfrider or CCC better challenge this shit. The city should do what Solana Beach did and get the Structures of the beach.

    Its easy CCC what happened to nature retreat. Can you say establishing presendence. Every home will use this as an example of how the CCC allows the replacement in place.

    Get your shit together and kill this F'd up project!!!

    This is as bad as the City of Bell City Manager wasting public dollars.

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  9. Just say it Lisa. Your a sell out and don't vote the way you preach about natural retreat. Lets build all kind of armor and structures on the beach. LOSER!!!

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  10. An expensive structure to eventually be washed away. How sad.

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    1. And they intend to build it to allow for periodic flooding of the bottom floor. There should be a lifegaurd station above the lifeguard/safety officer parking structure that was already built on the bluff. That lifeguard station could replace the public "observation platform, freeing up more towel space closer to the waves, the beachline.

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  11. how sad is right. That $3 million in DEBT could have been used for many more worthy projects with a better return on investment. Tax payers screwed again. Thanks Lisa and all.

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    1. The City HAD the money to pay outright for this project but Tony and Lisa foolishly spent it on Pacific View, that is now up to $33 mil being spent before anything can be built on the 1.78 acres of land; remember, the entire council voted to spend $4 mil, Tony, Lisa and Teresa spent the other $29 mil.

      Honestly, you wouldn't trust Teresa, Tony or Lisa to watch your pets for a weekend, would you? They are the poster children for folks who are against term-limits.

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    2. The city could have gotten PV for a lot left if Stocks and Friends would have allowed an appraisal to proceed 9 years ago. Instead we have a big sports park for $50mil and took another million from land acquisitions fund and diverted it to the sports park.
      It seem unfair to lay it all on them.

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  12. $3 million dollars for a state beach which will have no more safety with or without the life guard fort on the beach.

    Why is Encinitas paying this kind of money for trophy projects that are helping destroy our coastline. Have you heard of natural retreat?

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    1. It's going to be a beautiful building. The architect will win an award. And it only costs $1200 per square foot. You could go to the library, use a book of standard plans and get a lifeguard tower for less than $200 per square foot, but no award. Don't forget the toilets are gold-plated.

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  13. Floodplain, floodplain, floodplain, !!!!!!!!?????? Geez. If homes aren't supposed to be allowed in an obvious floodplain, what could they be thinking taking up invaluable people beach space?

    If they wanted the best vantage point to observe the whole safe keeping beach scene, it seems like the lower parking lot would do the trick. Hopefully, only small part, if it were even feasible. It seems a natural viewpoint and preserves a lot of sand space that can flood without worry if the weather goes nuts.

    Curious, not really at this point, that Planning screwed up again and never asked the appraisers if there were a better site. Their only response was to address the scouring that could occur, will occur, and dig a deeper foundation. Cha ching $$$$$$$$ $3 million? Yea right. That's a starting point.

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  14. So Shaffer and Kranz and the others that vote for this structure in our surfzone will be known in legacy as putting concrete in a surf zone when we knew it would always be a surf zone. Whats next a hotel out on piers at Swamis at the main break. How about a heliport at Grandview southpoint???

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    1. Don't give Keith "Trellis" Harrison any ideas.

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  15. More like Keith 'bump out' Harrison since he showed his face to support that Olivenhain project that obliterates any set back provisions this town had.

    Considering that tasteless neighborhood travesty across from the upper Moonlight Beach parking lot that he built and remains an empty eyesore, his opinion has little credibility, but there he was, none the same, supporting 3' setbacks for the roof, 6' or 7' setbacks for the bump outs that line the whole side of this home?

    Bay windows are a bump out. A whole wall of them is not. Last night council had a chance to fix this and chose not to. They had an easy out due to the lack of the planning director providing crucial information before bringing this before council.

    Once again, Planning and Manjeet screwed this town over and set a precedence that we will all suffer under in the future.

    Karen, please clean up your Planning Dept. and start with sending manjeet and masih the destroyer, on to other pastures.

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    1. And Harrison somehow thought the bump out house was "affordable housing" - he's either losing it or calculating and sneaky.

      Fans shaffer, blakespear, kranz all members of the Trellis followers club. They believe whatever he tells them and staff certainly won't make any corrections to his claims.

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    2. Now any property owner can walk into the planning department and ask for the Ranu special number 1 approved by Kranz, Blakespear, and Shaffer on January 27, 2016.

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  16. Our new city manager appears to be very soft spoken. That could be a detriment in how effective she is in leading the city staff. I fear they will run all over this quiet person and she won't know what hit her.

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    1. she needs to fire some of the blatant dead wood one with a First name of Greg and last beginning with S. and its not shit.

      there is plenty more beyond him.

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    2. I suppose there is the "getting your feet on the ground" phase with a new job. Hopefully she doesn't get "smoozed" by the staff and she slides with a sub-mediocre status quo. You can image Sabine has been working it - he is the dead wood king.

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  17. Endangered Species Targeted for Extinction by the Encinitas City Council in exchange for the Coastal Rail Trail paving of paradise.

    A Native Plant and Sensitive Habitat Survey was conducted on the undeveloped open space corridor where the Coastal Rail Trail – Encinitas, from ‘E’ Street to Chesterfield Drive is currently proposed. This area is known as the last remaining natural coastal habitat areas East of the railroad track corridor throughout the City of Encinitas/Cardiff. A State of California Environmental Scientist and State Licensed Landscape Architect conducted this sensitive habitat/biological survey. It was conducted on January 22, 2016 and a short list of the findings are as followed:

    San Diego coastal sage & chaparral ecoregions

    Maritime Chaparral Habitat
    California Sagebrush Artemsia californica
    Coastal Saltbush Atriplex californica
    Coyote Brush Baccharis spp.
    Mule fat Baccharis salicifolia
    Encinitas Baccharis Baccharis vanessae (needs verification, on CESA list)
    Cane Bluestem Bothriochola barbinodis
    Monkey Flower Diplacus spp. or Mimulus spp.
    Salt Grass Distichlis spicata
    Coast Sunflower Encelia californica
    Coastal Buckwheat Erogonum spp., fasciculatum
    Toyon Heteromeles arbutifolia
    Deerweed Lotus scoparius
    Laurel sumac Malosma laurina
    Manroot Marah fabaceus
    Lemonade Berry Rhus integrifolia
    California Sage Salvia spp.
    Mexican Elderberry Sambucus
    Plus many others

    Coastal Succulent Habitat
    San Diego Sagewort Artemisia palmeri
    Alkali weed Cressa truxillensis
    Ladies’ fingers Dudleya edulis
    Lanceleafe liveforever Dudleya lanceolata
    Chalk Dudleya Dudleya pulverulenta
    Tarweed Hemizonia faciculata
    California Boxthorn Lycium californicum
    Coast Prickly-pear Opuntia littoralis
    Coastal Cholla Opuntia prolifera
    Plus many others

    Semi-Riparian Habitat (possible vernal pool)
    Yerba Mansa Anemopsis californica
    Owl’s Clover Castilleja campestris succulenta (needs verification, on CESA list)
    Western Marsh Cudweed Gnaphalium palustre
    Arroyo Willow Salix lasiolepis
    Purple Needle Grass Stipa pulchra
    Purple Nightshade Solanum xanti
    Plus many others

    Coastal Wetland Habitat
    Jepson’s button Celery Eryngium aristulatum
    Spiny Rush Juncus acutus
    California Watercress Nasturtium officinale
    Slender Cat-tail Typha domingensis
    Plus many others

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    1. Maybe this will stop the rail trail. Let us hope.

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    2. Also empty beer cans, milk crates, scraps of carpet, and cigarette butts across from Jack in the Box.

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    3. "This area is known as the last remaining natural coastal habitat areas East of the railroad track corridor throughout the City of Encinitas/Cardiff." - Please elaborate, because I see many of these species on my rides throughout the hills and canyons of Encinitas, RSF and Elfin Forest.

      - The Sculpin

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    4. Dont forget the homeless that hang out there and pee in the bushes. We call it the Hobo trail!

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    5. Sculp lives in a world where we actually care about his horseplay.

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    6. Sculp is a dumb tax sucking loser. Considering the lack of intelligence while able to support living in Olivenhain I come the conclusion that he most be a fire department employee.

      those saps have all the time and money in the world to go horse back riding whenever they want.

      They get paid like Kings and don't do real work. ONly sleep, play, work out. Slackers sucking of the momma tax payers tit.

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    7. Yawn.

      When you have no substantive response to an argument, attack the person making the argument.

      Boring and lame.

      There was a claim made that the rail right of way was unique and exclusive host to certain rare plants. Sculp busted that claim.

      The End.

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    8. looks like 10:48 hit the nail on the head. Thats how Sculp has so much time on his hands. Fire princess.

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    9. I guess Sculp doesn't know that Rancho Santa Fe and Elfin Forest are not part of the city of Encinitas. Try finding the listed species in Cardiff, rather than in exclusive Olivenhain, and they will be very elusive.

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    10. Challenge accepted 7:36!!!!!
      So I did some walking around this weekend and found the following areas in Cardiff replete with all sorts of native species:
      All along the northern bank of the estuary from Las Olas all the way to the corner of Manchester and El Camino Real;
      The hills just west of the freeway, south of Birmingham, north of Manchester and behind the apartments and sanitation facility;
      The slopes south of Sea Village, west of Lake and around Via Tiempo;
      The canyon at Park Place, but that’s private property so maybe it doesn’t count;
      and Rossini Creek.

      So I get that you're not in favor of the rail trail, but please use a better argument than the potential extinction of native species. It's nonsense, especially in a town that prides itself on preserving these species and eradicating invasive ones. Just look at what they did with the Swami's pedestrian crossing. It may not be to your tastes or mine, but it was still well done.

      - The Sculpin

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    11. 9:50 AM
      Are you completely in the dark on how those areas were saved? Many of the hills with endangered species were part of developments that had to save a portion of what the developers wanted to destroy. That didn't happen because of the generosity of the developers. Many residents came out to council and planning meetings to say no to the destruction of our native species open space. Next time you walk around thank the residents that fought for saving them and not the three dummies of Kranz, Blakespear, and Shaffer that have the title of Council members.

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    12. Many of those residents who came out live in houses built before there were requirements to set aside native species as there is now. Constructing their houses eliminated most native vegetation. How many have Coastal Sagebrush growing in their yards? Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

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    13. So decimate what remains? Dumb "argument."

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    14. 3:14 PM
      Sounds like an argument Council members Kranz, Blakespear, and Shaffer would use to let a developer destroy our native species open space.

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    15. That it does, 7:41. That it does. Kranz and Shaffer bought Marco's "Desert Rose's environment will be better after the density bonus project is built." Riiiiight. Catherine would've been right there with them on that vote.

      Something is seriously wrong with this trio.

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  18. Lets return all your homes to scrub grass. Let the groundhogs live.

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  19. Bottom Feeder Sculpin has gotten one thing right. His nom de plume. His contribution here has, as always been, limited to supporting the status quo. Someone has made a lot of sense in thinking he is a former fire dept. member.

    This couldn't be 'jabba the hut' himself, could it? Stranger things have happened.

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  20. I'm quite bemused with the vicious attacks on Sculpin (I'm not him nor do I know him). One thing you have to give Lynn Marr credit for is being honest, at least some of the time. When I asked her on this blob if she questioned someone's motive just because they disagreed with her, she said yes. It appears that she has a lot of company.

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    1. 11:39 AM Oops. "blog" not "blob". Or maybe it is a blob.

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    2. The attacks are well deserved. I believe the Sculpin signs his name, then conveniently posts comments without his name. He thinks he is clever, but NOT!

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  21. You may be new on here 11:41, but Lynn's comment aside, Sculpin has been making the City's apologies for years. It is that consistent behavior that leads one to believe he is a City insider. He's never once posted anything to lead one to believe otherwise.

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    1. I'm calling bs 5:21pm. Just because you may not agree with his posts, doesn't mean he has any secret agenda anymore than you might.

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    2. Oh, his agenda is far from secret :)

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    3. 6:06 PM

      I'm 11:39 AM/11:41 AM and I can't agree more with 8:32 AM. I guess Sculpin fails the purity test or worst, thinks for themselves. How pathetic is it that you have to give Sculpin's motives a sinister twist just because he/she doesn't toe the group line. You can't just disagree. I'm afraid it says more about you then about Sculpin. And no, I don't always agree with Sculpin.

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    4. The problem is that Sculp gives strong opinions not supported by facts and documentation. He/she doesn't seem to attend Council or Planning Commission meetings. Nor are any links ever included. Not a good way to argue a point of view, especially when putting down the opinions of other.

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  22. thats the way fire princesses role. Too much time on their hands. Can help supporting the hand that feeds them .... even if its a bloody tax payers tit, and they abuse the public trust. Fire princess/ or fire scum. both could sign as Sculpin.

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