It delivers a fraction of the activities Barth and Kranz promised. They somehow didn’t know that most of what they advertised is prohibited by law. Amazing.
What are you? New here? No one said it was going to be “given” to developers. But the school district decided to auction it off to the highest bidder in 2014 and the city wasn’t even interested in buying it, so of course a developer was going to buy it? Then Save Pacific View launched a campaign to get the city to buy it and save it and thankfully they did!
Thankfully they overpaid by 40%? Geezus. Do you not get that developers even if they purchased it would have to go through a public vote. Misinformed much?
and how do you think they would have voted? Would Pacific View still be standing if the city had not bought it? If they didn't vote for the developer's plans, do you think the developer would have just given up? They would have torn it down and there would be apartments there, and if you think CRC is attracting bad elements, what do you think an overcrowded apartment complex would have done to that neighborhood?
No vote needed. State law supersedes local. The school district was auctioning the property with a guaranteed rezoning to residential. The deal would not close until the rezoning was complete.
State law does not supercede, that is only if that parcel had been earmarked by HCD and put on the map by oh I dunno, KRANZ? and forced on us through legal action. You live in a world where the developers write your script. We see you.
KPBS on Jan 22, 2014 wrote about the issue before citizens launched a campaign to save Pacific View.
Encinitas In Tussle Over Pacific View Elementary's Multimillion-Dollar Site
Pacific View Elementary in Encinitas closed 10 years ago and the school district now uses it for storage. But the property is a few feet away from a dramatic ocean overlook and the land is worth millions. Just how many millions is up for debate.
The city of Encinitas has offered to pay $4.3 million for the land to keep it for public use. But the school board has voted to auction off the property, with a minimum bid set at $9.5 million. They said the money will go to benefit public schools.
Superintendent Tim Baird said the school district wants to work with the city, but has an obligation to their students and families to get the highest bid. Encinitas Mayor Teresa Barth said even if the school district got $9 million, once that money is spent, it’s gone. But the land could remain available for generations if the city buys it for public use.
One major reason for the big discrepancy in land-value estimates are the limitations on how the property can be used. It could not be sold to a developer to build private homes, for example, without a zoning change. And who would grant a zoning change? The city of Encinitas.
But even the city council might not have the power to change the zoning, because Encinitas passed an initiative last year that said any significant zoning change has to go to a vote of the people. That could be a major roadblock for any new development.
Baird said the school district got an offer two years ago of $7 million from an arts group, but unfortunately that group couldn’t raise the cash, so the deal fell through. Since then, he said, property values have gone way up, so he believes $9 million is a reasonable minimum amount to ask.
The school board passed a resolution asking for closed bids on the property and they scheduled an auction to start with the highest bid on March 25.
Wednesday evening the Encinitas City Council will consider what to do next. One option is to raise their offer, but there seems little chance the city would or could meet the school district’s minimum bid. Barth said the city hopes to avoid getting into a legal battle over the issue, but the council will also hear a presentation on whether it would be feasible to use eminent domain to take the land.
UPDATE. The city council voted to direct the city manager to write a letter to Superintendent Baird, expressing the city's disappointment in the school district's decision to hold an auction on the property. They pointed out that there is no request for a rezoning of the property on record at the city. And they invited him to submit a proposal for a purchase of the property by the city.
The council will take up the matter of the price and terms for purchase of the property again at a meeting in February.
URL of article https://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/jan/22/encinitas-tussle-over-pacific-view-elementary/
One of Pacific Views past managers had a housing plan of his own all ready to go. How and why was he ever appointed to lead an effort he hoped he could profit greatly from if developed. John somebody. Delay after delay under his tutelage slowed the whole process. Of course, there was always tony who paid millions more of our tax dollars than the asking price to the school board.
De Wald. Had his name all over PV and Pacific Station. Don’t care what he had drafted ready to go. His timing was off. It could no longer be rubber stamped by Barth and Kranz.
7:29pm Thanks for the name John De Wald. At the time, I saw the housing plans he had created in his dreams of profiting off the developing of Pacific View. He held the whole process up much longer than it needed to be. He also dumped Garth Murphy who was involved solely to preserve the site with no profit motive. Grrr. Thank you Garth.
This is the Beauchamp Blakespear Gonzalez woods drake strategy, run a disinformation campaign to create connections where none exist. Beauchamp overheard saying she was going to link them next to De Maio. Taking the high road my ass. They and Berlfein and the whole rotten crew will say anything to restore their power.
More stories about the City of Encinitas fiscal incompetence.
Instead of slitting costs for a high. cost fire chief, AZ Jenny led the charge for giving the fire proncessses an even bigger slice of the tax dollars received by the City.
My lord, Encinitas loves there highly paid/pension low-work princesses. Do they have a calendar this year and when will the citizens build the princesses their next 5 ⭐️ Fire McMansion with full movie Theater and gourmet kitchen, For all the time hanging out at the five star resort?
Thank you to the gentleman who explained about incompetence of City city staff, addressing the flooding conditions around Leucadia.
to the San Diego Guto drug alliance for highlighting how ridiculous the cities actions have been to promote the massive drug increase use and promoting drug and alcohol conception at the parallel of reside.
WTF, the Shitty Manager, Jenny, continues to promote Encinitas as the North County Party zone to get plowed and drive inebriated and kill people.
RIP Emily, Dr Worley, Shawn, Brodee, Emory, and all the others run down. 🪦🪦🪦🪦
Thank you Dave!!! Always good information. I agree the roads around Encinitas are shit. Use some of our massive tax dollars to pave our freaking roads.
Jim cannot help himself from being rude and interrupting his fellow council members during their allotted speaking time. He is consistent in that way. He is always having to be reminded to hold his tongue and respect others while they are speaking.
At least this council (against Joy's will) actually discuss issues. What is clear is that the votes are not strongarmed in advance by Blakespear. I'll take Jim's rough edges any day over her behind the scenes finagling.
Gosh 10:40 doesn't it suck when you repeat what BarthBlakespearKranz told you and you turn out to be wrong? You blind followers never learn, they lie. PV is a perfect example.
"One major reason for the big discrepancy in land-value estimates are the limitations on how the property can be used. It could not be sold to a developer to build private homes, for example, without a zoning change. And who would grant a zoning change? The city of Encinitas.
But even the city council might not have the power to change the zoning, because Encinitas passed an initiative last year that said any significant zoning change has to go to a vote of the people. That could be a major roadblock for any new development."
Pacific View is a certified Green Business! Yay! How much did this unneeded atrocity cost again?
ReplyDeleteOverpaid thanks Kranz, Barth, we have an income of less than $200 since we bought it despite promises it was going to pay for itself.
DeleteLet’s hear from Tony, he posts here.
Pacific View Arts Center is amazing!
ReplyDeleteIt delivers a fraction of the activities Barth and Kranz promised. They somehow didn’t know that most of what they advertised is prohibited by law. Amazing.
Delete6:50- you are an idiot loser!
DeleteEncinitas did the right thing saving a beautiful mid century school building from developers!
ReplyDeleteIt would not have been given to developers. Had to pass a public vote for that Tony, something you like to forget.
DeleteWhat are you? New here? No one said it was going to be “given” to developers. But the school district decided to auction it off to the highest bidder in 2014 and the city wasn’t even interested in buying it, so of course a developer was going to buy it? Then Save Pacific View launched a campaign to get the city to buy it and save it and thankfully they did!
DeleteThankfully they overpaid by 40%? Geezus. Do you not get that developers even if they purchased it would have to go through a public vote. Misinformed much?
Deleteand how do you think they would have voted? Would Pacific View still be standing if the city had not bought it? If they didn't vote for the developer's plans, do you think the developer would have just given up? They would have torn it down and there would be apartments there, and if you think CRC is attracting bad elements, what do you think an overcrowded apartment complex would have done to that neighborhood?
DeleteYou don't understand how the city works, amazeballs. DeWald could not have developed PV without voter approval. Fresh off the turnip truck, you.
Delete6:51- Tony. You and Starvin are disgusting idiots.
DeleteNo vote needed. State law supersedes local. The school district was auctioning the property with a guaranteed rezoning to residential. The deal would not close until the rezoning was complete.
DeleteOnly dummies who hate facts and reality deny it.
State law does not supercede, that is only if that parcel had been earmarked by HCD and put on the map by oh I dunno, KRANZ? and forced on us through legal action. You live in a world where the developers write your script. We see you.
DeleteHang on, Kranz was one of the people that saved Pacific View from developers yet you say developers write his script? Make it make sense.
DeleteState law says surplus school property automatically gets rezoned to match the surrounding area.
DeleteCA constitution has a supremacy clause.
It was a done deal. Stop lying.
I suggest you go to savepacificview.org and read what was happening in real time when all this went down.
DeleteKPBS on Jan 22, 2014 wrote about the issue before citizens launched a campaign to save Pacific View.
DeleteEncinitas In Tussle Over Pacific View Elementary's Multimillion-Dollar Site
Pacific View Elementary in Encinitas closed 10 years ago and the school district now uses it for storage. But the property is a few feet away from a dramatic ocean overlook and the land is worth millions. Just how many millions is up for debate.
The city of Encinitas has offered to pay $4.3 million for the land to keep it for public use. But the school board has voted to auction off the property, with a minimum bid set at $9.5 million. They said the money will go to benefit public schools.
Superintendent Tim Baird said the school district wants to work with the city, but has an obligation to their students and families to get the highest bid. Encinitas Mayor Teresa Barth said even if the school district got $9 million, once that money is spent, it’s gone. But the land could remain available for generations if the city buys it for public use.
One major reason for the big discrepancy in land-value estimates are the limitations on how the property can be used. It could not be sold to a developer to build private homes, for example, without a zoning change. And who would grant a zoning change? The city of Encinitas.
But even the city council might not have the power to change the zoning, because Encinitas passed an initiative last year that said any significant zoning change has to go to a vote of the people. That could be a major roadblock for any new development.
Baird said the school district got an offer two years ago of $7 million from an arts group, but unfortunately that group couldn’t raise the cash, so the deal fell through. Since then, he said, property values have gone way up, so he believes $9 million is a reasonable minimum amount to ask.
The school board passed a resolution asking for closed bids on the property and they scheduled an auction to start with the highest bid on March 25.
Wednesday evening the Encinitas City Council will consider what to do next. One option is to raise their offer, but there seems little chance the city would or could meet the school district’s minimum bid. Barth said the city hopes to avoid getting into a legal battle over the issue, but the council will also hear a presentation on whether it would be feasible to use eminent domain to take the land.
UPDATE. The city council voted to direct the city manager to write a letter to Superintendent Baird, expressing the city's disappointment in the school district's decision to hold an auction on the property. They pointed out that there is no request for a rezoning of the property on record at the city. And they invited him to submit a proposal for a purchase of the property by the city.
The council will take up the matter of the price and terms for purchase of the property again at a meeting in February.
URL of article https://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/jan/22/encinitas-tussle-over-pacific-view-elementary/
Blajesoear’s minion Diana Kutlow here to plead Catherine’s case and position herself a la Preston.
ReplyDeleteAhhh yes, dressed in her flight attendant attire for extra points. Mork rules!
DeleteMork?
DeleteIdiot. State Senators all over California have staff that share updates at local city council meetings in their district.
DeleteMyeah it goes beyond that. She’s positioning herself as a manufactured candidate that is obvious.
DeleteMrs Doutbfire also likes to go by "Mork"
DeleteOne of Pacific Views past managers had a housing plan of his own all ready to go. How and why was he ever appointed to lead an effort he hoped he could profit greatly from if developed. John somebody. Delay after delay under his tutelage slowed the whole process. Of course, there was always tony who paid millions more of our tax dollars than the asking price to the school board.
ReplyDeleteDe Wald. Had his name all over PV and Pacific Station. Don’t care what he had drafted ready to go. His timing was off. It could no longer be rubber stamped by Barth and Kranz.
Delete7:29pm Thanks for the name John De Wald. At the time, I saw the housing plans he had created in his dreams of profiting off the developing of Pacific View. He held the whole process up much longer than it needed to be. He also dumped Garth Murphy who was involved solely to preserve the site with no profit motive. Grrr. Thank you Garth.
ReplyDeleteLions and Tigers and Closet Proud Boys on council oh my!
ReplyDeleteReally Beth?
This is the Beauchamp Blakespear Gonzalez woods drake strategy, run a disinformation campaign to create connections where none exist. Beauchamp overheard saying she was going to link them next to De Maio. Taking the high road my ass. They and Berlfein and the whole rotten crew will say anything to restore their power.
Delete💯
DeleteThey ran a huge gaslighting === dis information campaign. Look at all the peeps on NextDoor and FB sites, wondering? Where is my low income 🏠 ?
DeleteBlakespear and AZ Jenny belong in prison.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DTvK3uKDpsw/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
https://thecoastnews.com/encinitas-passes-up-school-purchase/
ReplyDeleteGood Morning, Encinitas! 😃
ReplyDeleteMore stories about the City of Encinitas fiscal incompetence.
Instead of slitting costs for a high. cost fire chief, AZ Jenny led the charge for giving the fire proncessses an even bigger slice of the tax dollars received by the City.
https://thecoastnews.com/del-mar-solana-beach-agree-to-split-costs-for-interim-fire-chief/
My lord, Encinitas loves there highly paid/pension low-work princesses. Do they have a calendar this year and when will the citizens build the princesses their next 5 ⭐️ Fire McMansion with full movie Theater and gourmet kitchen, For all the time hanging out at the five star resort?
What a gig. Taxpayers get hosed. 🔫💦
Don’t forget the Ritz style sleeping quarters.
DeleteNothing’s is too good for our princesses.
Can we make sure that they get 100% silk gloves to wear for any type of manual labor?
I think they need to put that into their union labor agreement. thank you.
ReplyDeletehttps://thecoastnews.com/fire-chief-muir-appointed-to-vacant-council-seat/
Our local heroes deliver again!!
ReplyDeleteThank you to the gentleman who explained about incompetence of City city staff, addressing the flooding conditions around Leucadia.
to the San Diego Guto drug alliance for highlighting how ridiculous the cities actions have been to promote the massive drug increase use and promoting drug and alcohol conception at the parallel of reside.
WTF, the Shitty Manager, Jenny, continues to promote Encinitas as the North County Party zone to get plowed and drive inebriated and kill people.
RIP Emily, Dr Worley, Shawn, Brodee, Emory, and all the others run down. 🪦🪦🪦🪦
Thank you Dave!!! Always good information. I agree the roads around Encinitas are shit. Use some of our massive tax dollars to pave our freaking roads.
Geeze, massive incompetence.
Jim cannot help himself from being rude and interrupting his fellow council members during their allotted speaking time. He is consistent in that way. He is always having to be reminded to hold his tongue and respect others while they are speaking.
ReplyDeleteOh come on, now. Joy wanted to pump past council....( budget success). Joy started the BS. Maybe Joy knew about Cateeee 's new budget commercial. 🤔
Delete745. Respect for others? You mean, he does not respond in a way that " you feel" is acceptable. Next?
DeleteAt least this council (against Joy's will) actually discuss issues. What is clear is that the votes are not strongarmed in advance by Blakespear. I'll take Jim's rough edges any day over her behind the scenes finagling.
DeleteEven though Jim has read statements prepared by Rachel? That doesn't wash....
DeleteOk, Beauchamp.
DeleteFlooding in Leucadia, talk to Gary Murphy....
ReplyDeleteWhy listen to Metallica or Slayer when you can listen to Encinitas' finest, "MegaBeth", at the council meetings?
ReplyDeleteKeep Leucadia UGLY!!
ReplyDeleteJerome butt hurt he and pal norby didn't get to cement over the whole corridor.
DeleteGosh 10:40 doesn't it suck when you repeat what BarthBlakespearKranz told you and you turn out to be wrong? You blind followers never learn, they lie. PV is a perfect example.
ReplyDelete"One major reason for the big discrepancy in land-value estimates are the limitations on how the property can be used. It could not be sold to a developer to build private homes, for example, without a zoning change. And who would grant a zoning change? The city of Encinitas.
But even the city council might not have the power to change the zoning, because Encinitas passed an initiative last year that said any significant zoning change has to go to a vote of the people. That could be a major roadblock for any new development."
12:22 cool your hatred. I shared that article to prove YOUR point dumbass.
DeleteImagine if they installed another Goodson Project on that lot...
ReplyDeleteBe grateful that lot is not filled with Zumpers😆