Just over a year ago, Juan Carlos Balderas, 21, who police said was a documented Encinitas gang member, was shot dead in a downtown Carlsbad park.
But not by rivals, prosecutors say. In the heat of a fight with Carlsbad gang members, Balderas was accidentally shot by members of his own gang, who had invaded enemy turf looking for trouble, according to prosecutors.
I'll be honest. I've lived in this area on and off for 20 years and I never knew Encinitas even had gangs. But I was overseas when this happened.
Encinitas' only documented gang, in existence at least 40 years, has historically been linked to an area south of Leucadia Boulevard and east of Interstate 5, as well as some patches of the city farther south.
However, many of the younger gang members appear to have been priced out of their traditional turf and moved to other North County cites, Encinitas detectives say.
A list of San Diego County gang injunctions is here, with none apparently closer than San Marcos.
The area between I-5 and Saxony Road and south of Leucadia Blvd. was called Tortilla Flats. Historically it was a Mexican-American barrio. The gang members called themselves Los Flats and put graffiti all over Encinitas. I doubt there are many members left in the neighborhood. It's been a long time since I've seen the tag. Gentrification does have its advantages.
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DeleteI was born and raised in Encinitas, now 52 years old and living out of state. The Tortilla Flats gang was always there while I was in high school at San Dieguito graduating in 76. We had many run in-s with Flats members and still managed to live in the same town together. I was friends with many of them from grade school. I became a Youth Pastor and Asst Pastor at a Juvenile Hall facility to help problem youth in my past. Due to the relationship I had with Willie Salazar who was the leader of the High School Tortilla Flats gang, I decided to serve the Lord after seeing him mortally wounded from a knife fight. I ran beside the ambulance telling him to call on the Lord, Jesus while they were taking him to the Hospital. Our eyes met several times and he heard what I was saying. We had talked the previous week and he had just signed up to go to a trade school and was getting out of the Gang Life style. The party was the following week that he and another Flats Member were killed at. It is a shame and why I try to help problem youth. Willie was a good man, his life was cut too short. Always remember, some of the problem youth do straighten out..... I did ....k.grant
ReplyDeleteWillie salazar was my uncle.
DeleteWould love to talk to you further K.grant. This is Denise and I was there also. I became a prevention specialist and youth advocate because of these kind of experiences. (858) 222-1336 give me a call.
ReplyDeleteThe T Flats gang almost killed me as I was skating home. I was doing nnothing and they came out and swung a chain with a lock on it. Almost hit me in the head and I ran
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what lames your far from being real gang member's. all you little punk's are or ever will be is wannabee's
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ReplyDeleteI had to look on the web to verify there was a real gang from encinitas. I guess I owe my neighbor a fifty spot. I moved here from east oakland. E26st murder dubbs T.T.O.T top of the twomps. where the fuck yall bang?! All I see is a bunch of white people and surfers. I never even heard of a drive by around here. 10 yr olds go to school with wallys and whoopers where im from and they straight trippin on the late night too. come slide through I-880 to gas nation learn about some real bangin you fuck boys lol. my faggot hoes are harder than you lil niggas
ReplyDeletego back to Oakland. we are a family town
DeleteSo lame. All of you go back. Wanna be tough guys...
DeleteYeah, Encintas is nothing....But let's see you run your Oakland chops in Southeast San Diego. Come to Logan and Shelltown, or to Rollin 40's and SS 5/9's hoods. You should be grateful that you live in a nice area now. Some of the people you left back in Oakland aren't so fortunate.
DeleteIm from Oakland and I grew up in Dogtown then the Shady 80's when my family moved. Don't kid yourself brotha. I was based in Camp Pendleton when I was in the Navy. there's hoods just like east and west Oakland in San Diego. Parts of Oceanside, Logan Heights, Shelltown, National City Chula Vista and San Ysidro look like Oakland. Lots of drugs hos and murders in those hoods. Mostly Mexicans banging but brothas got hoods too! We had off-limits for bars and parks in a lot of those hoods.
DeleteGang scum not welcome here. This is a tight knit community that is not afraid to watch and report suspicious activity. You will go to jail--we don't tolerate losers. Best you find a nice third world slum if your definition of tough is living like animals.
ReplyDeleteTough is getting an education, a job, and supporting a family.
Yes, I agree completely. Get out of our city.
DeleteFuck all you mother fucker hating
ReplyDeleteFuck all you people talking shit run up in the streets not on the internet pussies come to Santa Fe drive
ReplyDeleteGet married. Get a job. Pay taxes. Get an education. Raise a family. Encourage your kids to surpass your standard of living. Volunteer and contribute to your community. Make it a better, safer, stronger community.
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Talk smack. Claim public streets that don't belong to you. Devalue you neighborhood. Destroy and deface public property. Behave like an animal. Go to jail. Be remembered as a piece of crap criminal, or worse, disappear as a nameless nobody.
The choice is yours. Good luck. This community is against gangs. We will not tolerate you. Get right or get out.
Grow up you punk. Sante Fe? You mean the one with $750K homes? Shut the fuck up you douchebag.
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Deletehow can you gang bang a million dollar community you cant even afford to live in? Encinitas is luxury not trashy as how you portray it grow up and stop living a lie
ReplyDeleteThey're all LA t flats dropouts. T flats in la gets smashed on by qlondra and gardena lol. Escondido goes way harder than encinitas yall studio gangsters
DeleteThe flats back in the day was very powerful and dangerous I am now Christian and have change my ways but I did run with them, my brother is doing life in prison for putting in work. due to the economy and the price increase in homes everybody has actually moved out with exclusion of the youngsters.The flats and southside used to be involved in shootings and stabbings with e.g. and Carlsbad we were deep but it was a lost cause. In prison encinitas flats is still deep most of the people change their ways,doing lots of time or grew up.I deal with the city now and they have invested a lot of money to attract tourists which has helped with attracting tourist to the city which has helped increase prices in the properties which as a result lower crime rate so basically everybody moved out due to the economy of the city.
ReplyDeleteshut up stupid everybody knows that tortilla flats is in Compton encintas is wannabes and has no gangs as for hi price home value it has always been the same a rich place and for you to say the youngsters have stayed is bs all your wannabes have moved to san marcos etc kicking with them they only talk to claim a hood that not real grow the fuck up Encinitas is a beach town filled with familys and goodness not gangs HOW PATHETIC CAN YOU BE AND YOU WORK WITH THE CITY moron ps all your so called boys in prison are pc up because there false and fake LA has green light on encinitas
DeleteStudio gangsters. Real t flats is in Compton and they get smashed on by alondra and gardena paybacc crips shotgun etc. Sox los in san Marco's is another wack la tecate
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ReplyDeleteI can run my chops on how Encinitas gangsters are weak because they live in a nice part of town too...but I won't - especially after seeing the neighbors kid get gunned down on Santa Fe. A gang problem is a gang problem period. Doesn't matter if you live in Logan or La Jolla, people with the gangster mindset do the same type of things - deal drugs and murder. Carlsbad, Solana Beach, and Encinitas all have residual gangs from when those cities had big barrios. Truth be told, it's probably a matter of time until the economy and gentrification pushes all the gangs out of those cities.
ReplyDeletedon't know what reality you live in but NO BODY has ever been gunned down on sante fe, people need to grow up, mature and stop the childish nonsence, you only make your self look like the jack ass that you are
ReplyDeleteYou must be young. Encinitas was much different in the 80's and 90's. A gangster is a ganster, and a surreno is a surreno. Leucadia crawled with gangsters, bikers ,meth , pcp, shootings, wars between ganster and border brothers. Seen the blood.
DeleteKids been shot stabbed and beaten around Santa Fe. It's a known fact. Two gangs occupy the area, Encinitas Flats and South Side Encinitas. Hasn't happened in a while. Those two gangs are becoming non-existent due to gentrification since the 1980's.
DeleteEarly 90's--Santa Fe, Balour, HWY 5, Encinitas Blvd boundaries all gangs in Southside including drug, prostitution, child prostitution and human trafficking. This is the Vista High School Area. Whenever Puppet got out of jail, everything got tagged. Mexican nationals had no drivers licenses. Cops did nothing. DEA did nothing, Border Patrol did nothing. FBI did nothing. Produce wagons from LA sold produce and drugs out of their vending trucks. Early MS 13 was in the neighborhood. A lot of Gringos fled. Ades and Gish went out of business as did many other nurseries. And the area settled down. Catholic Church on Balour and Encinitas Blvd was a great protector of the families with gang members in those good old days. The original older Balderos family that had an extensive family in the area were good people, unfortunately they did not have a clue about the gang activities of their children--or if they did, they did nothing to help law enforcement. Encinitas does not want to know this story. In the early 90s, Encinitas was only interested in property values and a pristine Poinsettia image. The best thing to happen to Encinitas was the demise of Big Growers who cashed in on real estate values. The growers--aka "Mexican Slave Owners" had to move on. I figure the gangs of Encinitas have gotten more sophisticated and some probably made a fortune in the 90's. They may or may not influence local politics, but I am sure they, like the gangsters of old on the EAST Coast, have a more respectable front and are still operational in Encinitas.
ReplyDeleteyou have got to be the most stupid piece of shit on the face of this planet first off stop using drugs second off there has never been any child prostitution or child trafficking so slap your self for being dumb in the late 60's 70's migrant's were in Encinitas as slave's yet Encinitas like now has always had wealth so when they were here and had kids there kids only hung around each other because they were not excepted when gangs started publizing out of la these kids formed there own as a unity measure to protect them selfs and whats pathetic is that if you do your history the roots of Encinitas the name and meaning comes from a tree but not 1 piece of shit like the ben davis brothers,cartoon or villain can answer that WHY because there cholos sin variio lames never will be and never have been gangsters they only act like it Encinitas was originally formed by Hispanic kids that only had there own race to play with as a form of unity not to be deprived that some way some how got taken to shit with bs but considering these lames that think they gang bang it its not to hard to understand and see why it went to crap if you think people like Danny Munoz or a meth freak like some nasty bitch that calls her self morenita augural that are nothing more than mentally retarded and dope feigns its sad to see our youth follow in the same direction as these cowards that never have been or will never be a positive rolmodel and yes Donald trump does raise a point with these lames
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Deletevista high school bitch vista is in vista lames are in Encinitas puppet wasn't shit his brother was a rat got deported pc up in Donovan his lil bro turned to penis for heroin and you still want to make a rich man land sound gangster slap your self then stop with the lies
ReplyDeletepeople like blanco that are 100% white come from wealth yet Encinitas has a gang I DONT THINK SO stop it laready
ReplyDeletewe just moved here from nor cal and to our surprise all we see is illegal immigrants in sante fe and Mexicans with shaved heads that are landscapers in Encinitas I believe the myth is wrong the only hardcore people to watch out for is the boy scouts, by far a safe place wear gang's do not exist
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ReplyDeleteCan any of you tell me why people tag the fence on the corner of Balour & Melba?
ReplyDeleteCan anyone tell me why people tag the corner of Balour & Melba?
ReplyDeleteall these foolz are ratz period they don't kick it in ther own hood they chill in other varrios try to act hard but frontz then get scared when real surenos hit em up just ask the rata of the month 760 994 6119
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ReplyDeletePossibly the most ridiculous thread I’ve ever, unfortunately, had to witness. Everyone is now dumber having been exposed to this. If you do bang; I hope you find a new way of life. If you don’t bang; you are blessed and fortunate. If you think you bang; chances are that you aren’t a gamgbanger but that’s a positive thing so be thankful it isn’t something you HAVE to do. If you bang on the internet; you might be worse than the fake banger. And if you are even somewhat intelligent; I apologize on behalf of all who partook in wasting some precious time in your life by exposing you to this thread. How many ANONYMOUS gangbangers could ANONYMOUSLY gangbang on each other. God bless and God bless America
ReplyDeleteGod bless you for this. And if anonymous gangbangers want to anonymously gang bang, could they at least use some PUNCTUATION? What is it with the younger generations that they are so proud of not even thinking about using a comma or period, and are prouder of their run-on sentences than they are of their barrio exploits?
DeleteAre the Gangs in Carlsbad, Encinitas, and Solana beach still active
ReplyDeleteI think most of them have moved away due to gentrification. I haven't heard of any gang violence in this area since 2012.
DeleteAll of North County gangs near the beaches in San Diego are dying off. Gangs from Solona Beach, Encinitas, and Carlsbad haven't been a factor since the late 1990's. Homeboys can't pay rent when they in the Pen!!!!
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ReplyDeleteIt ain't like back in the day. All those Mexican hoods in Encintas, Carlsbad, and Solana Beach are pretty much gone from gentrification and heavy policing. Those gangs have been a non-factor since the 90's. Maybe their heyday was in the 70's and 80's.
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