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Sunday, April 15, 2012
Hall Park Toxic Waste Report
Hall Property Bury Soil - April 4, 2012 DEH Ltr
Ouch. That sounds expensive. Is that in the budget? And wouldn't you think the city would have thought of this and made the seller take care of it before they bought it?
The city has been fighting the county to do less that required. Yea, this will cost a bunch. The city has lost one lawsuit that citizens intigated because the city tried to ignore the problem. The city also held the completed EIR for almost two years for political reasons. And last year Stocks scrapped improvements on the park and a completed Compliance Report on the I 5 expansion because a citizen threatened a law suit to force the city to address the moving of 8,000 trucks of toxic soil. This council majority has caused most all of the delays and wasted millions of taxpayers money in order to try to change our community to look and feel like Irvine. Last month Gaspar let Turko rant about how the city won a lawsuit against evil citizens trying to block the park. Of course this is not true. Gaspar knows that the city lost that law suit. And Gaspar dispels those nasty myths that this Special Use Park is a special use park. Gaspar gloats that it is a park for all. True, unless you want to play basketball, tennis, volleyball, racquetball, horseshoes, bocce ball, Frisbee, Frisbee golf or any pick up game with friends, family or business on a Saturday unless you are signed up for an organized sports league. Oh, and if you want a dog park, you better find a way to raise money to pay for it yourself. There is a substantial record that the council majority has laid down over ten years that proves that the citizens must not believe what is presented to the public and find out the truth on our own on the facts concerning the development of the "Encinitas Community Park", which is NOT A COMMUNITY PARK and not what the community wants and not what they wanted it named. ReplyDelete
The cities budget is max'ed out. Over 70% goes for sheriff, fire, salaries and pensions. How will they pay for this park?? By borrowing more?? Soon the non obligated funds will go to interest. Not to mention CALPERS coming after them for more cash. Nope, this park will never be built. Not to worry.
You must be nuts. You expect a city worker to do something to earn their pay?? Like offer the idea of an inspection prior to purchase?? You ARE nuts. The city didn't inspect city hall prior to purchase costing us over $250,000 for a new roof so why would you expect them to inspect and require Mr.Hall to clean up his toxic mess prior to selling. YOU ARE NUTS.
The California Poppies look very nice at the corner of Hermes and Leucadia Blvd. Why doesn't the Hall property looks as nice?? For that matter, why doesn't all of 101 look nice with wildflowers??
Because the merchants on 101 are the reason that there are nice wildflowers in the median. From Surfy Surfy to Peachie Peachie! Thanks for starting the flower revolution.
N. Leucadian Garden Tour tomorrow go check it out and remember Maggie while you walk it! Another cool and wonderful legacy from Maggie.
Wow! 46,000 cu. yds. of impacted soil. It’s better to talk about cubic feet rather than cubic yards to get an idea of the scale of the contaminated soil. 46,000 cu. yds. = 1,242,000 cu. ft. A cubic foot is the volume of a box one foot on each side (1 X 1 X 1) and a cubic yard equals 27 cu. ft. (3 X 3 X 3) So 46,000 cu. yds. will occupy the volume of a box about 36 yds. (108 ft.) on each side. This would make a very big pile of soil or a very big hole to bury it in.
Of course, a pile won’t form itself into a cube, but into something like a cone similar to the four piles of rubble on the Hall property now. According to Google Earth the bottom of the piles are about 65 ft wide. With a 30 degree angle of repose the height is 19-20 ft., and the volume is about 21,600 cu. ft. It would take 57 piles of this size to accommodate the 1,242,000 cu. ft of contaminated dirt. The four that are there only cover 7% of the need.
The soil won’t be piled into cones, but into something more like the shape of a loaf of bread, which would occupy much less space. But even a block of soil 30 ft. high would make a square 203 ft. on each side or a rectangle 30 ft. wide and 1380 ft. long. That’s a big loaf.
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ReplyDeleteThe city has been fighting the county to do less that required. Yea, this will cost a bunch. The city has lost one lawsuit that citizens intigated because the city tried to ignore the problem. The city also held the completed EIR for almost two years for political reasons. And last year Stocks scrapped improvements on the park and a completed Compliance Report on the I 5 expansion because a citizen threatened a law suit to force the city to address the moving of 8,000 trucks of toxic soil. This council majority has caused most all of the delays and wasted millions of taxpayers money in order to try to change our community to look and feel like Irvine. Last month Gaspar let Turko rant about how the city won a lawsuit against evil citizens trying to block the park. Of course this is not true. Gaspar knows that the city lost that law suit. And Gaspar dispels those nasty myths that this Special Use Park is a special use park. Gaspar gloats that it is a park for all. True, unless you want to play basketball, tennis, volleyball, racquetball, horseshoes, bocce ball, Frisbee, Frisbee golf or any pick up game with friends, family or business on a Saturday unless you are signed up for an organized sports league. Oh, and if you want a dog park, you better find a way to raise money to pay for it yourself. There is a substantial record that the council majority has laid down over ten years that proves that the citizens must not believe what is presented to the public and find out the truth on our own on the facts concerning the development of the "Encinitas Community Park", which is NOT A COMMUNITY PARK and not what the community wants and not what they wanted it named.
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The cities budget is max'ed out. Over 70% goes for sheriff, fire, salaries and pensions. How will they pay for this park?? By borrowing more?? Soon the non obligated funds will go to interest. Not to mention CALPERS coming after them for more cash. Nope, this park will never be built. Not to worry.
ReplyDeleteYou must be nuts. You expect a city worker to do something to earn their pay?? Like offer the idea of an inspection prior to purchase?? You ARE nuts.
ReplyDeleteThe city didn't inspect city hall prior to purchase costing us over $250,000 for a new roof so why would you expect them to inspect and require Mr.Hall to clean up his toxic mess prior to selling.
YOU ARE NUTS.
The California Poppies look very nice at the corner of Hermes and Leucadia Blvd. Why doesn't the Hall property looks as nice?? For that matter, why doesn't all of 101 look nice with wildflowers??
ReplyDeleteBecause the merchants on 101 are the reason that there are nice wildflowers in the median. From Surfy Surfy to Peachie Peachie! Thanks for starting the flower revolution.
ReplyDeleteN. Leucadian Garden Tour tomorrow go check it out and remember Maggie while you walk it! Another cool and wonderful legacy from Maggie.
Wow! 46,000 cu. yds. of impacted soil. It’s better to talk about cubic feet rather than cubic yards to get an idea of the scale of the contaminated soil. 46,000 cu. yds. = 1,242,000 cu. ft. A cubic foot is the volume of a box one foot on each side (1 X 1 X 1) and a cubic yard equals 27 cu. ft. (3 X 3 X 3) So 46,000 cu. yds. will occupy the volume of a box about 36 yds. (108 ft.) on each side. This would make a very big pile of soil or a very big hole to bury it in.
ReplyDeleteOf course, a pile won’t form itself into a cube, but into something like a cone similar to the four piles of rubble on the Hall property now. According to Google Earth the bottom of the piles are about 65 ft wide. With a 30 degree angle of repose the height is 19-20 ft., and the volume is about 21,600 cu. ft. It would take 57 piles of this size to accommodate the 1,242,000 cu. ft of contaminated dirt. The four that are there only cover 7% of the need.
The soil won’t be piled into cones, but into something more like the shape of a loaf of bread, which would occupy much less space. But even a block of soil 30 ft. high would make a square 203 ft. on each side or a rectangle 30 ft. wide and 1380 ft. long. That’s a big loaf.