Wednesday, December 11, 2013

Half a mayor

In last night's meeting, the Council decided to give Teresa Barth half of the next year as mayor, and Kristin Gaspar the other half.

Apparently, the Council's unanimously approved city attorney Glenn Sabine didn't bother familiarizing himself with the city code on the issue before the meeting.
2.20.020 Presiding Officer

A. On the second Tuesday of each December, the City Council shall choose one of its members as Mayor and one of its members as Deputy Mayor. (Ord. 2010-09)

B. The Mayor and the Deputy Mayor shall serve a term of one year, or until a successor for each position is chosen. Three affirmative votes shall be required to choose or change the Mayor or Deputy Mayor (Ord. 2010-09).
But who cares about law or good public policy? We have council members who get along with each other, and isn't that what really matters?

In other news, the council decided not to have an open council meeting about the city's pollution of Rossini Creek at the Hall Park project. Apparently, getting fined by a regulatory authority for repeated, reckless practices that pollute the lagoon is just like being involved in a lawsuit that requires confidential strategy discussion. So the public will receive only a carefully crafted "informational presentation" on December 18 rather than an open, honest discussion of what happened.

126 comments:

  1. No wonder Sad Sac is running the circus show including the complete waste of time meetings of the "strategic" planning meetings. The only thing strategic about the planning is how each month he gets closer to his big fat retirement check at over $200,000 a year forever as you stupid citizens have zero money for any needed projects throughout town and are left with a regional sports park that will make the City raise fees and taxes to pay for its huge ongoing costs.

    Man this is a Council of do nothing feel good fellows. Let the City finances tank as you pat each other on the back. Sure speak loudly for term limits. Teresa is the veteran on the block, she should have lead the discussion.

    I sure hope we have some good fresh faces for the next Council race. It can not come soon enough.

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  2. Not only did no one lead the discussion, Kranz suggested Teresa continue as mayor for the next six months, at which point they'd have the same discussion all over again! Just call him "I'll think about it tomorrow" Scarlett O'Hara Kranz.

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  3. Half a real mayor would accomplish 50% more than what we have now.

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  4. True dat. I wish they would hire at least a half of a City Manager and a City Attorney with at least 1/2 integrity. If they did, they would accomplish 1000% what we have today.

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  5. Bell ex-city manager found guilty. Gus, carefully read the article.

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    1. Sadly, there's nothing illegal about about ordinary municipal incompetence, cronyism, infrastructure decay, unfunded liabilities, and outrageous pay and pensions.

      The Bell guys had to go way overboard to do something illegal. Stupid, as they could have all been set-for-life at 55 like Gus and friends if they just hadn't gotten quite so greedy.

      WCV

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    2. Agree with WC, incompetence isn't punishable by law.

      People are greedy, and that's the story. Why stop at a million when 10 is better. Look what the lady who got convicted said, something to the effect of "I was overpaid and got a lot of vacation, but what's wrong with that"?

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    3. It's nice to see that when a few government employees get greedy, it's because they all are. Catch anybody in private enterprise being greedy or dishonest and it's just a few rogues. The one exception are those damn developers who are always being dishonest and greedy. It's just standard operating procedure here.

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  6. No that was worth repeating

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  7. They are all unified in their love and devotion to der Fuehrer. Duetschland Uber Alles! Also, they were only following orders. They didn't know!

    Divide the responsibility enough and claim that they are doing things because the state makes them and because they will get sued, and nobody is to blame....they hope!

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  8. I watched the meeting and Tony threw a very large monkey wrench into the whole decision making process, in my opinion.

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  9. They (Gus) has kept Teresa in her old role so that he can continue to slide through rezoning and other issues that he want in place to assure his retirement.

    Wake up citizens. We are in for a battle!

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    1. Sorry, but the Gus retirement stuff is old hat. He would get that retirement in Sacto, Stockton, wherever Calpers is in place.

      He doesn't have to do anything special to get that retirement, correct me if I'm wrong. He doesn't have to work to assure he gets that retirement, he'll get it the same way Cotton got it, Kerry Miller got it, whatever.

      The real question now is, what was the monkey wrench tony threw in. Guess I better queue up the meeting.

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    2. To me, this is the same horse-poop as we've seen before. They want Gaspar to be mayor during the second half so it can say "mayor" next to her name on the ballot when she runs for mayor.

      Same crap Bonds and Stocks pulled in skipping Maggie, the same reason they wanted Muir to replace Maggie.

      Can Gaspar make a decision? Any decision. Unbelievable. I can't believe she said that up there, trying to force Teresa's hand to declare as a candidate for mayor, and Tony kind of threw gas on that fire.

      I thought Teresa gave a good answer. And then Muir comes in, trying to pretend he just came up with that off the top of his head.

      You could populate Del Mar with all the horseshit statements coming out this night...



      That's why she passed last time.

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    3. Gaspar and Muir started their fundraising in Jan. 2013 for the next election.

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    4. 9:31, I think you mean 'pollinate' not populate: didn't you?

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  10. The state of Florida in its statutes seems to have incompetence covered -


    The 2013 Florida Statutes



    Title X
    PUBLIC OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AND RECORDS

    Chapter 112
    PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES: GENERAL PROVISIONS


    112.51 Municipal officers; suspension; removal from office.—
    (1) By executive order stating the grounds for the suspension and filed with the Secretary of State, the Governor may suspend from office any elected or appointed municipal official for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, habitual drunkenness, incompetence, or permanent inability to perform official duties.

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  11. I have a hard time believing that any of these posts are from people who actually voted for either Kranz, Shaffer or Barth. These posts, and others on other threads, appear to be carefully crafted to beat into the reader, any reader, that Encinitas would be better off with anyone but..........
    To me, it really looks like a concerted effort by the "old guard" to regain power. Is that what "you folks" want? You want to be shut out again? Y'all are very good at complaining, but have great difficulty in translating that into any real action. Basically, the people you put in shut you out! It takes two to have an argument - so you better fix this quick or risk being on the sidelines - again............
    so, what are you going to do?

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    1. I voted for Kranz, Barth and Shaffer. I'm the one who keeps bringing up the fact to be careful what you wish for, because Jerome and gang are waiting in the wings.

      The old guard will be there in the next election, Kristin will run for mayor, make no mistake.

      If Teresa runs, I'd take her over Kristin, who can't make a decision.

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    2. We are shut out mr. sculpin. Teresa has done that.

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  12. Teresa's decisions - ignore the Municipal Code, loosen environmental requirements for developers, be nasty to her supporters and fawn over her detractors.

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    1. Teresa's supporters turned on her. Try and get it right.

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    2. 3:33 PM
      No, Teresa turned on here supporters.

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  13. And Kristin: politically correct now, wait till she gets in as mayor and owes the BIA, Stocks, Andreen, Meyer....

    The folks who voted for Lisa and Tony in are more horrified at their 180s than any opposition. Sculpin, these posts against them ARE from former supporters. If you have any who are friends, conduct your informal poll - you'll get the same.

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    1. I have, and my retort is always "what are you going to do about it?" I get back the "deer in the headlights" look - so come on you people, do something!!!!!

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    2. Bang your pots.
      Drive them out.
      Bang your pots.

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  14. You "few" repeatist complain about the same old crap. Post your name and get involved. I actually like the entire council (not every decision, but most) and appreciate that fact that they can disagree and still get along - Isn't that what we want in our elected officials. GOOD JOB COUNCIL! WHAT A GOOD EXAMPLE!

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    1. Good example of a council cabal.

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    2. Post your name, 10:18.

      We want more than for our elected officials to get along. We want for them to represent us, openly, and to give us opportunities to participate, publicly. We want them to set a good example by following the letter and the intent of Encinitas Municipal Code and California Government Code, which includes the Brown Act.

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  15. I agree 10:18. At least they seem to get along, which is something we have not had in a while. I would have looked more info on Rossini Creek, and a few other matters. But, let's face it, would we have gotten more form the last Council? I don't think so. So let's see what happens, and let's see who steps up to the plate to run in 2014. Personally, I wouldn't want the job.

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    1. Agree, at least there's not open hostility and they try go work together.

      Right now, we're just going to have to see what happens with the mayor's race. Sure looking like Teresa vs. Kristin. I still take Teresa, despite disagreeing with some of her recent moves. I'm not down with Kristin, who's just up there like a puppet constantly passing on responsibility.

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    2. Barth and Gaspar are cut from the same cloth.

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    3. But Gaspar's heels are much higher. Teresa at least has some intellectual capacity, Gaspar, not so much...

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      Intellectual capacity - that is debatable. On many issues before the council Barth has stated that it beyond her understanding.

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  16. Recently observed Kristin Gasper having lunch with David Meyer and Jerome Stocks,I believe last nights events were will scripted.Oh buy the way she cant make tonight's meeting as the is leaving for vacation and Mark Muir must leave at 8:30 tonight to catch a flight.I ask you all were are there priorities.self serving I think.

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    1. That's nothing new, but good to have the name David Meyer, aka head of Carltas, the Ecke's development company out there for a reminder.

      Yeah, that was pretty oily. I liked Lisa's motion to nominate Teresa, after that it got pretty stupid up there. Not quite sure what Tony's move was, but Kristin and Mark were maneuvering into position....

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  17. The council is a cabal.

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    1. 1ca·bal noun \kə-ˈbäl, -ˈbal\

      : a small group of people who work together secretly.

      Not nearly as much as the last council, where Stocks and Bonds clearly scripted everything with Danny and Kristin, and Christy before that.

      Now that's a Brown act violation.

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    2. What makes you think it wasn't scripted last night?

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    3. It was between Mark and Kristin, but assume you mean between all 5? Didn't sound like it...

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    4. Some of the 5 are more bungling in their attempts. As Barth said warts and all - ha- ha and went on to make excuses that the bungling could have never happened if planned before hand. ha ha Want to buy a bridge.

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  18. Hey everybody, there's a new set of bums in Leucadia. KLCC might be a cult, but we keep it crappy.

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  19. Gus was part of the management that sunk Stockton and Sacramento and now he is sinking Encinitas. Anyone that supports him, I am against. That means I am against all the current council people and the former as well.

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    1. Vina is a slick manipulator who is not to be trusted. Rutan & Tucker is the only proof needed. How much blame he deserves for Sacramento's and Stockton's woes is hard to know. He was an underling except for about a year as interim city manager in Sacramento. Internal politics there gave the job to somebody else. Why he has our council's confidence is also hard to know, but a good guess is it has to do with financial solvency. Keeping the boat afloat now and into the near future is the name of the game.

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    2. And if it means our town turns into Orange County wall-to-wall stucco, so be it. Shameful.

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    3. Vina wasn't an underling in Sacramento. He was an assistant city manager before he was chosen for the interim position. His duties included overseeing the finance department. Sacramento's $150 million budget debt happened on his watch.

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    4. Vina was one of three assistant city managers, and he was subordinate to that city's council. He was an underling. When he was first attacked on this blog, he was held primarily responsible for sinking two cities. Now it's changed to "part of the management team." That new designation is closer to reality. Read the Sacramento press during his years there. Let us know what condemnation you find.

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    5. In Sacramento - Gus Vina as interim city manager -

      The City's Garbage Contract with BLT Enterprises

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    6. That's it? He's mentioned once in a 28-page document. He had been interim city manager for nine months when the city council amended a contract that began in 1998. Even if there was scandal involved originally or with the amendment, is it Vina's doing? Is that how he plunged Sacramento into debt?

      Seems you'll have to do better than that to lay Sacramento's woes at Vina's feet.

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    7. Dude Vina got a vote of no confidence from the Sacramento council after Vina gave his cabinet pay raises of as mush as 35% tboost salaries and spike pensions.

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  20. Tony Kranxz on the same sde as KRISIT,MARK and LYNN MARR. OMG
    Who got had TONY DUH

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  21. KLCC = Keep Leucadia's Community Character

    Both in the Rossini Creek matter & the selection of TWO mayors and TWO deputy mayors, SIMULTANEOUSLY, Council didn't abide by the letter & intent of the law, including Encinitas Municipal Code & now, has engaged in more Brown Act Violations, after an inappropriate closed session when there was no legitimate threat of "exposure to litigation," & no opportunity, at the open meeting, for public input on a major policy shift in the selection of Council's last appointed mayor. For this policy change there were no alternatives listed on the agenda; Council's surprise motions couldn't be discussed or responded to by the public.

    Just a few questions, when has Kristin Gaspar passed on making a decision?

    When and where did you see her having lunch with Stocks and Meyer? If this is a fact you are reporting on, please give your name.

    Lisa's motion to have Teresa be mayor for another year was an unprecedented change in policy. Traditionally, our policy has been an "honorary" rotational system. The majority of the time, the rotation was abided by, with a few notable exceptions. The code was actually changed in 2009 to add the bit about "successor," I believe. Please correct me if you know the exact wording of EMC re election of the presiding officer prior to 2009. I will also submit a CPRA request to find out what the code was previous to 2009.

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    1. Pacific View School comes to mind, where she abstained from voting.

      I wasn't the one who saw her having lunch with Stocks and Meyer, but I know other people in the past who saw her having lunch with them, and I don't think it's a secret that she falls on that side of the fence sympathy-wise.

      It's her choice to do so, of course, but that would preclude me from ever supporting her.

      Basically, Gaspar passed on being mayor last time, even though she next in the rotation, isn't that correct? And guess what, just in time to be listed in our voting pamphlets as "mayor", although Teresa pointed out that she to could list herself as mayor.

      More jokeying on the dais, just with a nicer tone...

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    2. Jockeying on the dais, although that selection process was a joke.......

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    3. Lynn, Kristen has many a time read from prepared statements that you can bet did not have her hand in them. Her close ties to the Meyer/Ecke/Stocks/Andreen clan are known and not new.

      It appears as though her kindness to you - that you've remarked on, several times - is blinding you to her true allegiances.

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  22. Lisa's motion was inappropriate and technically illegal according to the Brown Act, because the change in policy was not on the agenda. Because it was made after public discussion was closed, and neither it nor the hybrid option of selecting two mayors and two deputy mayors were listed on the agenda, the public had absolutely no opportunity to give input or feedback last night.

    These people are supposed to be public servants, not puppets and string pullers, jockeying for power. Council did not name one member to be the mayor and one member to be deputy mayor. Basically, Teresa volunteered to be her own successor. She named herself.

    Council did not choose who would "go first," so did not select a mayor and a successor, at the same time. Teresa Barth volunteered to go first. Otherwise, since Kristin was leaving town, Tony Kranz would have been our initial presiding officer! Sounds like "Not Ready for Prime-Time Players!"

    Teresa did state she wanted to go first so she could complete the closed session as Mayor. Also, never before have there been two special meetings, one partially closed, one open, whereby the first closed session special meeting recessed, then a separate open special meeting was conducted, then the initial special meeting was continued in closed chambers. Why couldn't Council simply start the initial special meeting earlier?

    When I asked at 5 p.m. and during the open meeting, why it was being done that way, why wasn't I told, then, that Kristin was going out of town, and Council wanted everyone present (but the public), especially for the Rossini Creek discussion?

    People stood up and turned their backs on Stocks and Kristin Gaspar when Teresa was skipped over in rotation. Last night was to be the final appointment for mayor through the honorary rotational system. Lisa Shaffer, fairly new to this City tried to do a "reach around" to circumvent the Brown Act, and Encinitas tradition.

    Lisa defended her initial motion, which upset the apple cart, by stating the public voted for a two year term for mayor, and that the "rotational system no longer exists." Yet she knows that we voted for the shorter term for our ELECTED MAYOR. Mayor by appointment has ALWAYS rotated, and been for a one year term. Never has one council member served two successive terms or 1.5 terms. Lisa and Teresa's arbitrary and unilateral decision that Teresa could repeat herself as mayor is unprecedented an an obvious attempt to displace Kristin Gaspar's turn in the rotation. Tony, Kristin and Teresa were going to nominate Kristin for mayor last year, but she declined because of family obligations, as well as the public's outrage at the "We Love Encinitas" brouhaha. That was enabled because ALL OF COUNCIL, including Teresa, had voted to pay for bogus citizen satisfaction surveys during election years, which were obvious campaign tools for incumbents, despite ALL the public speakers asking Council NOT to so vote, when Jerome Stocks was still mayor.

    This scenario probably was scripted between Lisa and Teresa, because Teresa will almost undoubtedly run for mayor, and Lisa doesn't plan to run against her. Tony did throw a monkey wrench into the works, by not following along.

    Most candidates wait until August or September to announce. That isn't unusual in Encinitas. This isn't a Presidential race. Kristin stated she's unwilling to announce, yet, and so did Teresa. But Teresa did say she would not run again for Council, the implication being she will run for mayor.

    Council and a couple of public speakers patted Teresa on the back for all of her photo op public appearances, and the "civility" of Council. I would rather have more dissent, than unanimous consensus that Gus Vina is doing an excellent job, and unanimous consent that Council supports Glenn Sabine.

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    1. KLCC is a cult.

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    2. Sorry, my take is Gaspar passed last time/last year so she could be listed as mayor this time, and Muir was there to put that nomination out there.

      Politics is politics, ladies and gents. The rotation has been jacked with so many times, I can't dissagree that it wasn't truly a rotation. I always said, if you want to have a rotational system, put it in writing and assign #'s. 1-5, with each following the next. If you pass, you go to the end of the line.

      I think it would be foolish to think that politics didn't come into play. All it means is Teresa and Kristin will both have the current mayor designation next to them on the ballot. Kristin made sure to make a statement about declaring/not declaring for mayor.

      It will come down to a vote for mayor between Gaspar and Barth. As for the Brown Act Violations, good luck proving that one. Won't happen.

      Sorry, I don't see any value to Gaspar on the council. There's nothing wrong with having young kids, but that's probably not the time to be on council. She's there to further the David Mayer/Stocks Bonds/developer front agenda.

      I hope she runs for mayor and is defeated, thus clearing her council seat. We have to do better than people like Danny D. and Kristin.

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    3. Lynn, please do not make Gaspar's excuses for her. That idiotic We Love Encinitas sham was HERS. It had her name, then her husband's and - can't remember offhand, was it David Meyers' name on it as signatories?

      She is $tock$ in heels, make no mistake.

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    4. Food for thought...

      https://thecoastnews.com/2012/12/questions-linger-over-groups-501-c-3-status/

      "Gaspar said that his only goal with the group, which claims to be a 501 (c) 3 nonprofit on its mailers, was to advance positive news about Encinitas and city staff.

      But all searches into the group’s 501 (c) 3 status have yielded no results.

      Inquiries made to the Internal Revenue Service turned up no records showing that We Love Encinitas, or We Love Encinitas Community Advocates as they are referred to, has a 501 (c) 3 status. The California Franchise Tax Board also said that the group wasn’t listed as a tax-exempt.

      Further investigation into parties attached to the group showed that Kristin Gaspar was the agent of process, as listed on documents received from the California Secretary of State’s office dated on Oct. 22.

      When contacted for a response she said, “Any information listing me as the registered agent is clearly in error as I have not in the past and do not currently serve in this role. Your future and current questions can only be addressed by the We Love Encinitas organization.”

      In documents dated Nov. 6, she was no longer listed as the agent of process, Paul Gaspar was named in place.

      An agent of process is an individual or corporation designated to accept court papers if the entity is sued, according to the Secretary of State’s website.

      The documents also list David Meyer, a real estate consultant and land developer in Encinitas as the secretary and chief financial officer of the group. Meyer’s past advocacy includes forming a political action group to oppose policies promoted by the late Councilwoman Maggie Houlihan."

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    5. Una mas, credit to WC and the blog:

      http://encinitasundercover.blogspot.com/2012/11/paul-gaspar-fingered-as-man-behind-sham.html

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    6. Good pointing this out. It seems more & more you are being appreciated, and you should be. Go Lynn! I hear plenty of good comments around town about you calling council out when they are not serving the citizens.

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    7. Thanks, 3:36. And yes, 2:49, politics is politics. I believe there are politics in any relationship, because politics is about shifting powers. Politics includes appearance, and photo ops. All politicians engage in publicity seeking, power plays, and positioning in time and place for greater control. That goes with the territory.

      I agree with Dr. Lorri. It's a challenging job. Yes, politics is part of the territory for elected officials. But so is criticism, and watchdogs calling out politicians for their failures, not just obsequious supporters who want more subsidies through the powers that be.

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    8. This is nothing new. When the Council voted to remove Shelia Cameron as mayor November 1999, they voted Jim Bond to be mayor for the first six months and Chuck DuVivier mayor for the final six months. The only certainty is that the mayor & deputy mayor have to be voted on at least once each year in December.

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    9. Good point, the rules have been, there are no rules..

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    10. I love that Kristen and Lynn are buddies now…. Lword now loves the Stocks regime. Wow- No sense of ones moral bearing eh?


      It will serve them both well. Love it! you go girls. Kristen- Maybe you could give Lynn a few tips about taking care of herself so she can earn some respect and people may actually listen to her.

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  23. Lynn
    Kristin and family will be in lake Tahoe on vacation ,she has taken the kids out of school and will all so miss the meeting of 12/18 .She didn't tell you .Your choice for mayor is going to miss two meetings,what a great example,what high standards she has. LOL---------- you are being duped!

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    1. Krsitin said something about "leaving" at the 5 p.m. meeting, before Council went into closed chambers, again with no actual report re Pacific View, although it was listed as being a separate "open" agenda item. I thought Kristin was talking about leaving her home, which apparently has construction defects. More shoddy work by Encinitas inspectors through ESGIL.

      Kristin had informed Council she was going to be taking a Christmas season break. This isn't unusual for anyone at this time of year, in public office, or privately employed.

      Kristin's announced absence, to Council, was why Teresa volunteered to take first rotation as "bi-mayor," to succeed herself.

      Everyone had culpability on Council for those bogus citizen satisfaction surveys. If Teresa's photo had been included in the campaign mailers through We Love Encinitas, there would not have been a big fuss. We all knew, including Teresa, that the surveys, during an election year, would be used to benefit incumbents. Teresa didn't want to be left out.

      Our campaign finance laws need to be reformed. Right now, there can be anonymous donations to so-called non-profits. That is one reason why all non-profit business associations, or ANY non-profits in our city should have to compete through CIP hearings and community grant decisions with all other non profits for subsidies/grants through the City.

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    2. Lisa Shaffer also gave the excuse, in her most recent newsletter, that the special council meeting closed session had to be held on Tuesday, instead of Wednesday, as the City was made aware Kristin was leaving and they wanted everyone to be part of the closed session.

      So Council was aware, although the public may not have been, until Teresa brought it up during last night's Council Meeting, in her decision to succeed herself as Mayor.

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  24. YEA! some one gets it

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  25. Krisitan always speaks of service above self yet it appears her actions are always self serving and now after two years of bad behavior she is the victim .I think she is a spoiled child in very tight pants and high heels.I am going to pass

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    1. You don't give any examples of bad behavior or where she has claimed to be victim. Instead you just resort to personal insult and digs. I've never noticed her in "very tight pants," either, although that should be irrelevant.

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    2. Sounds like it is time to bring the Princess Narcissus moniker back since she continues to earn it, unabated. Some just can't learn from experience and deserve ridicule. We presently have no representatives representing us, not a one. Sometimes just for a second a hopeful light appears only to extinguished shortly thereafter. We are all in deep doo doo and need a full compliment of new, truly for the people of our beloved community council members to step up next year. Dump them all just like we dumped his lowness last year. This town deserves so much better than this bunch of turncoats. We won't be fooled again hopefully. If the same staff remains what does anyone expect? Clean house and rid ourselves of these bad influences from top to bottom. We have sadly learned the hard way that when the same staff remains nothing changes. There is enough blame to go around that it can be shared with council members and staff and planning and building depts and on and on. The cancer is within and not just the individual council members. Purge!!!!

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  26. And on another sketch note, Marco Gonzales has been seen sucking up to Kranz and Barth. I wonder why?

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    1. Who doesn't he suck up to, he's a lawyer, that's his gig...

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    2. No shit. I see Marco everywhere these days. The dudes BAD!

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  27. Please enjoy the Dec 10 entry of the Leucadia Blog. We are working hard to keep it crappy. KLCC , we are a cult .

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  28. right, lots of new businesses in Leucadia, lots of new bars, wine bars, shops, music spots...............really get clue. Respect for zoning, yes. High density crap that benefits inside developers, socialist shaffer and phony tony no thank you. you make no sense, the facts don't support you. Get out more often

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  29. Vote them all out.

    They support sad sac the destroyer off financial stability.

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  30. Just watched the video of the chaos figuring out the appointment of a mayor.

    Looked like five pigs playing in the mud, happy to be there splashing all around and not caring how stupid anyone from the outside could see them to be.

    No doubt about it. Gaspar is dying to be elected mayor and Barth feels a civic responsibility to keep that from happening.

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  31. barth feels no civic duty. She has been an unmitigated disaster. Shd and gaspar opposed a, she and gaspar sided with the developers on A, she and gaspar sided with developers on desert rose, she and gaspar presided over a 400K fine at the hall park, she and gaspar want to raise fee on youth sports families, she and gaspar continue to give us crappy in debt roads, she and gaspar approved an uncessary 400K for the planning department and then voted to raise fees on citizens. Barth and gaspar are in the same, each is duplicitious, cronies and put their interests before ours. These are the fatcs, Barth is a fake

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    1. Name one city within 10 miles with roads as bad as ours. You can't.

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    2. All our Tax money is going to pensions like Mark Muirs $180,000 per year and Sad Sac's $200,000 per year and the huge regional Sport Complex being built entirely on Encinitas small tax base.

      No wonder we are broke. But our existing council is having too much fun playing with the City Employees to really look at serious City issues right?

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    3. I'd say Oceanside, and try driving in any part of San Diego. The worst we have is Santa Fe, thanks to the work in front of San Dieguito...

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    4. Santa Fe has always sucked. So bad 7 years ago a student was killed under the freeway. Shame on the city!!

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    5. 7:55 - you should be ashamed of yourself. That was the result of an out of control driver swerving before they got under the bridge and had nothing to do with the condition of the road. Are you really trying to say that if the road condition was better the driver would have not crashed? Pick another example - a relevant one.......

      - The Sculpin

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    6. 7:20 we are $43 million behind in road repairs, drive Crest, Birmingham, San Elijo, the list goes on and on. At the council meeting for repairs Shaffer and Phony Tony looked shocked there was not enough money for road repairs, of course just a few weeks earlier they ignored residents and approved $400K in money to expand the planning dept budget- and then rasied fees (taxes?) on citizens. It is who they are, they hope don't notice.

      Scuplin- nice of you to chime in, but once again your opnion is unfounded. If the city was not at fault in the Santa Fe incident then then the city would not have been sued- correct? Get your facts straight Scuplin- it seems the city being suded and held responsible for the Sante Fe incident is relevant.

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    7. Link to law suit, or where I can find it? If so, my bad! I still think you should be ashamed of yourself.

      - The Sculpin

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    8. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2007/feb/02/sheriffs-deputies-probe-fatal-crash-as-school/all/

      Webb said deputies are investigating witness reports that the driver purposely made his pickup fishtail "either to show off or to scare" the students, then was unable to regain control of it.

      Deputies have been told by students that some student motorists purposely drive recklessly and intentionally make their vehicles fishtail to scare other students in the area, Webb said.


      There's always a lawsuit. Doesn't mean the road was at fault.

      WCV

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    9. Sunday November 11, 2007 post at the Leucadia Blog has the story on the lawsuit against the city of Encinitas regarding hazardous conditions at Santa Fe. Worth noting the road in my opinion has been left crappy as the hhg density profiteers want to put a transit village across from Scripps- like the transit center at UTC. The city is hoping the developer pays to fix the roads because the city has wasted our money.

      The least you can do is offer an apology, what is shameful is you spouting off like an overheated tea kettle without knowing the facts-

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    10. No apology until I see that the city was held liable, and I can't find it yet. Got a Lexisnexis cite? WC is right - anyone can sue - judgments are what controls. And I continue to believe that you should be ashamed of yourself.

      - The Sculpin

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    11. 8:34
      You are right. Any place without a K-rail is just as dangerous for pedestrians when a dirver is goofing off. And that's what happened.

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    12. Scuplin the city was sued for hazardous roads, the city settled the suit, that is enough for me.

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  32. Prediction from Jo-Jo Anonymous, the bookmaker at the Rincon Casino: Neither Barth nor Shaffer will run for mayor. Princess Narcissus might. If she does, she'll lose.

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    1. Gaspar is running. She is all about collecting trophies, and being elected mayor is next on her list.

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    2. I would never vote for a women who chooses being elected major over raising her children correctly. She has her priorities screwed up and is as shallow as they come.

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    3. 9:05- you scream tolerance yet are the most intolerant of all.

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    4. What's wrong with being sexy? -Nigel Tuffnel, Spinal tap....

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    5. sexist? Try Shaffer telling the city manager and fire chief search that she would like to see more woman hired- I want teh ebst person hired- it is Shaffer who is sexist and sees things in gender.

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    6. Sexist? Try focus on raising your kids right first, and then ego stuff later. I'd say the same about some Dad with young ones at home as well.

      I guess that makes me a "Carist" Caring about future generations of Americans.

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  33. no, one or three current council members will run for mayor. However the true person running barter town is jerome stocks and dave myers in my opinion. From where i sit gus vina is running the show. at weds council meeting they stacked the oral communications with palace guards to spread propaganda the council is doing a good job. Meaning no disrespect but calling it as I see Judy Beurline who ran phony tony's campaign looked stupid sayin g the council was so good. Judy, your boy tony and the failure barth cost us 400K at the hall park. Judy, your boy phony tony with the ndeep local roots.............to developers and the eckes, voted against residents at desert rose, really, Vina is brining in staged speakers to stage the news.

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    1. I think that Judy is a nice and peace loving sort of gal, but when she and the other woman who was given the job of HWY 101 coordinator on account of Teresa spoke, it made them all look like they had low standards. How is council working as a group to spread the blame equally, and the Mayor showing up for photo ops deserving of praise in light of all of the other problems that have been ignored?

      The 101 woman is also a nice person, but it does not come off well when people praise the mayor who uses taxpayer's money to recommend a job for the person giving the compliment. I for one think that the position should be done away with--along with the new communications position.

      We should not have taxpayer-funded kiss ups for the council and for Gus Vina to create the perception of popularity when citizens in general do not feel that way.

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    2. Who are we talking about, the head of L101? That's not a city position, it's a non-profit.

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    3. Is that you Stocks or Andreen , not even a good try.Crawl back under your rock

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    4. You're stealing my gig, I'm the one who calls out Andreen and Stocks on this blog. FYI, neither of them is on here, I can spot Mike's writing style a mile away.

      I agree, the comms position is absurd, but the L101 job is not a city job. That gigs been around a long time, and those guys have done a lot of good things for Leucadia.

      People have always gotten up and praised leadership as long as I've been going to council. Judy did a lot to help get Tony and Lisa elected, so give her some credit for not running away at the first sign of trouble. Judy and Dadla are awesome people, who care about our community.

      Again, be careful what you with for, we've already got Kristin running for mayor, who will come out of the woodwork from the Stocks side to run for her council seat?

      Sorry to break the fact-free narrative.

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    5. The narrative is the Palace guards protecting Viane and Barth bussed in phony speakers to give them glowing reviews in hjopes the public does not notice-

      1. they have wasted our money (400K fine, 50K to Rutan, the lsit goes on)
      2. They have increased our debt
      3. They have hid behind closed doors and worked in secret
      4. they have proposed procedures to limit public particitpation
      5 They want to upzone the city and destroy our community character


      Judy may support destroying oru small town character and increasing our density but I don't.

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    6. 11:07
      1 Lie
      2 Lie
      3 Lie
      4 Lie
      5 Lie
      I think that makes you a LIAR

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    7. Uh, those speakers were people who've been involved in the community a long time there, Mike Andreen.

      Try checking some facts before posting...

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    8. 12:06 do you have any facts?

      THe council did waste 400K in fines and 50K on Rutan
      The council did increase our debt and liabilities
      The council did meet behind closed doors on Rossina Creek
      Shaffer and Barth did make recommendations to limit speak time donations and time
      THe council did oppose PRop A and are seeking an overlay zone to upzone the city

      really 12:06 are you the new PR spin propaganda director trying to deflect bad reviews?

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  34. Well said. Run…. lets see what you got?

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  35. Go Kristen! I have an idea…. let Lword be your campaign manager for Mayor.

    You two were made for each other !!

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  37. Non violet civil disobedience is an acceptable form of protest .
    What will you do to protest these cheats??

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    1. Is that in subtle shades?

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  38. First I'm going to Soltera for 5 glasses of wine, then take a limo to Captain Keno's. Leucadians know how to protest..

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    1. You can also refuse to allow her to take the oath as mayor.

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    2. Dump Gaspar ,what a tool!

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    3. Or you could just not vote for her for mayor. Follow the money, she's bought and paid for...

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    4. There has been zero coverage of last saturday's community coming together over the Harwood/City Mark development on Fulvia/Hymettus. Although the weather was chilly with sprinkles the warmth of many of our neighbors coming together in opposition was all so heartening. There was never the proposed walk around and every question and answer was filmed. This was a true coming together of our beloved community in opposition to the proposed density bonus that these folks were relying upon. This was a pivotal moment in our town's future and deserves coverage. If this isn't stopped in its present form [10 lots] you can be sure it will pop up next door to all of you at some point. There were attendees from all over our city. They surely recognized this and perhaps the coast news will have some opinion tomorrow but I feel this is so crucial to all of our futures it should demand recognition.

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    5. 10 lots on that large piece of land seems reasonable to me.

      So tell me, what are you and the City doing to get the State Law changed?

      Until the law is changed, why doesn't the City, just downzone all the City zoning densities for large vacant lots 30% to offset state law density bonus?

      Some times its the simplest solutions that work the best.

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    6. With respect, this has already happened. Check out the Citymark development behind La Especial Norte, the development on Hermes, or the development on Hymettus. All used the density bonus provision.

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  39. Ok, I must admit I have been out of the loop with some health issues. But what gives with this new density bonus development. Can someone tell me more, or give me a link. I would like to know more.

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  40. Dr. Lorri,

    Google it… there is plenty of information out there. Read away.

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