Wednesday, March 22, 2017

Encinitas woman dies after taking turmeric intravenously

10 News:
Friends say Jade Erick was a “free spirit” who was as beautiful on the inside as she was outside. She was also interested in holistic health, but that interest may have contributed to her death at the age of 30.

Erick died after a bad reaction to turmeric, a spice used in Indian food and in dietary supplements, that was dripped directly into her veins through an I-V.

According to the San Diego County Medical Examiner the cause of her death was “: anoxic encephalopathy due to prolonged resuscitated cardiopulmonary arrest due to adverse reaction to infused turmeric solution”. A spokesperson confirmed the turmeric was delivered through an IV.

29 comments:

  1. We could be living in the early days of a new Dark Ages.

    Everyone "feels" like they know more than medical doctors and researchers. Some trust a Playboy model over their doctor with decisions about their child's health. Politicians rely on folksy intuition which contradicts scientific consensus. People don't believe professional journalism, instead favoring random tweets. Too many people fail to demand exceptional proof for exceptional claims, and embrace conspiracy theories.

    This is how great civilizations rot.

    I didn't know this person, but she is emblematic of a much larger problem. It's empowering and ego-boosting to mentally put ourselves in a position of authority. It requires humility to admit that others know more than we do, and to trust them.

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    1. While everything you say is true, there is also a problem with medical doctors and researchers. They mainly do research on treatments offered by big pharma. Where is the large double blind controlled dosage/delivery study of turmeric as an anti-inflammatory, stem cell injections, cannabis for pain inflammation, probiotics, etc. Even fish oil and niacin are barely researched. So, people spend $$$$ at Sprouts relying on advise from the internet or someone they just met at Sprouts.

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    2. It is true that science costs money. Often a company will fund research, especially if they have resin to believe the results will substantiate some benefit that will have a commercial effect. That isn't a conflict of interest, as long as the funding source isn't involved in the design, execution, or analysis of the study. It's also not uncommon for such studies to expose results unfavorable to the company funding the research.

      It is true that funding research on compounds without a commercial benefactor is difficult. As a result, there are many claims that go unsubstantiated because the study hasn't been done.

      But we would never give the benefit of the doubt to a large corporation making unsubstantiated claims about a product, and we shouldn't assume benefits for "holistic" treatments without evidence either.

      "We don't know" can be the best available answer, and we should never confuse a lack of information to be an affirmation of anything.

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    3. Well said 7:46.

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    4. We are already in the dark ages..

      http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us

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    5. Well said. I agree with you.

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  2. 7:46am, give me an effing break. We are in an enlightened age where we no longer have to "trust" but instead can make better informed decisions based on source information.

    Tying this story to the concerns of parents whose children have had adverse vaccine reactions is shameful.

    Stay curious. The best of those in positions of power do.

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    1. I'm waiting for the day a child sues it's parents for not being inoculated against disease.

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    2. 11:01, there are also adverse seat belt reactions--cases where children were trapped or strangled by a seat belt. Perhaps you'd like to use these tragic anecdotal cases to argue that children shouldn't use seat belts generally.

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    3. 11:43am, the NHTSA would investigate faulty seat belts or cases such as you describe. There would be no "trust" of the car manufacturer or "faith" in their product.

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    4. I don't know what you are trying to say. How is your trust in the NHTSA to investigate and report on seat belt safety any different than trusting the FDA to montor and regulate safety of vaccines?

      The larger point is, the internet can be a good thing. It can connect us instantly to high quality information on just about any subject. We can and should use it to become more informed consumers and citizens.

      Also, the American maverick ethos encourages people to question authority and challenge conventional thinking. Again, generally a good thing.

      But when people use the internet to connect to questionable sources, and they take the maverick ethos to extremes without an ounce of humility, then we are in trouble.

      Too many people swing that pendulum toward outright arrogance, where "experts" are automatically assumed to be wrong, and the value of information is judged by how many "likes" it has.

      http://althealthworks.com/10081/iv-curcumin-the-best-way-to-use-turmeric-yetyelena/


      http://www.naturalnews.com/043174_aqueous_curcumin_colon_cancer_IV_injection.html


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    5. The NHTSA has never stated that we should not investigate seat belt defects because to do so might erode the public "trust" and "faith" in an important safety product.

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    6. 2:24,

      You can disregard, as you are clearly an exception to the rule. You are clearly smarter than the collective wisdom of immunologists, pathologists, and the large community of doctors and scientists who have dedicated their lives to the study of communicable diseases.

      You are very special indeed, and you are certainly not making my point for me.

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    7. 11:23 There's a difference between it's and its.

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    8. I wasn't the one who brought "faith" and "trust" into the conversation, and I never claimed to be smarter than anyone. That you go there says more about you than the point attempting to be made. But that's the sad state of things unfortunately...

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    9. 3:25,

      Where did I use the word "faith?"

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  3. Someone needs to be investigated for this crime.

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    1. What quackery joint is doing this? Yes - whoever administered this "treatment" needs to be stopped practicing medicine without a license.

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  4. No where on the news did it say they were unlicensed and by law you have to be licensed in order to administer an IV. I am glad you all trust your lives and your children's lives on big pharma where they only care about the $$$ and have killed thousands of people by mistreatment. One person dies of an holistic IV and everyone starts to blame holistic health. If you only knew how many people alternative medicine saves every day from the mis-treatment and drugs of western medicine.

    Any time a person does a treatment there are always side effects you have no idea if she was allergic to something that was in it, had an infection, or some other medical condition that got set off because of this. Bottom line is that it is a horrific and sad situation that happened and the loss this poor family is experiencing is unbearable.

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    1. 3:54, do you have information suggesting the practitioner who delivered this fatal treatment was doing it for free?

      Do you think they informed the patient that this treatment had never been through animal or human trials for safety or effectiveness, and that the risks were completely unknown?

      It is a horrific and sad situation, but it is also a crime, and entirely preventable.

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    2. I suppose everyone should be free to take the risks involved with alternative treatments, given that they understand that there are risks.

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  5. 4:16PM Making assumption as you are doing is what is wrong with the news and forums like this. You have no idea if they were offering it for free and I am pretty sure they were not. Holistic places do not just offer IV treatments for free and offer treatments with out studies showing that they do offer relief and healing. I am sure she was not the first person they did this type of IV on.

    You can never treat enough animals (which I am highly against) or humans to know exactly how it will react with every human and what condition they are in at that moment. There are so many variables.

    I lost a dear family friend who had a routine heart surgery, who was one of the healthiest candidates for this surgery and had 99% chance of bouncing back to even better health! They used a routine drug after the surgery to thin the blood that they used on every other heart surgery patient but because they did not do a genetic test on my friend to see how his body would react to this particular drug he died because his body genetically did not react as others did with this drug and it killed him it had the opposite effect on him. So should I blame the doctors who used a drug on every other heart surgery patient who never had issues with it because it didnt work on my friend and killed him?

    It is not a crime and in medicine you can never 100% prevent something from going wrong unless true malicious action took place which I do not think happened here. It is a sad circumstance that this particular individual did not react well to something that someone else reacted amazing too. You have no idea the exact details and until you do you should not point fingers and make such harsh accusations.

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    1. The #3 cause of death in the USA is medical error. Heart disease and cancer are the first two.

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    2. More misinformation.

      Page 121, Table 19. Top causes of death. Medical errors doesn't make the list.

      https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus15.pdf#page121

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    3. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/03/476636183/death-certificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors

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    4. It was reported on CBS news, fairly recently, that medical error IS the number three cause of death in the U.S. It was barely mentioned; I followed through, and saw it verified through several reputable news sources, online. Thanks for the additional link, 12:04.

      Those statistics through the Center for Disease control may be outdated. Medical error is now number three, with heart disease and cancer being number one and number two cause of death. In some states, cancer is now number one cause of death, although, overall, I believe heart disease remains number one.

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    5. 11:34 AM Deception Master (or uninformed) calling information misinformation. Reverse psychology.

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    6. 9:41,

      And yet, no one has posted an official source.

      No one doubts that medical mistakes happen in traditional medicine. They do, and they are probably under reported.

      No one claims that science or traditional medicine are perfect.

      They are simply better and more effective than any other option. Regulation and monitoring of drugs trials for safety and efficacy, hard science, medical device regulation, doctor training and licensing. You abandon all of that when you choose to have someone inject ingredients from an Indian restaurant into your vein.

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  6. "One who lives by Near Eastern quackery, shall die by Near Eastern quackery." Ancient Near Eastern Prophet of Yoga Groupies.

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