Tuesday, February 20, 2018

Ficus Wars!

From the Inbox:
A group of Encinitas residents have been working on preserving the ficus trees in Downtown Encinitas through identifying them as Heritage Trees. We have already lost most of the Leucadia treescape on 101, and the ficus trees on 2nd and 3rd Streets could also be in jeopardy if steps are not taken to preserve them. Lisa Shaffer and Teresa Barth both wrote emails to undermine advocates' position to protect these trees as a cherished and valuable resource that benefit residents, businesses, and visitors to our community. They are doing so by disregarding the feelings that people have about these trees and also taking a very narrow interpretation of the topic.
The Shaffer and Barth letters:

I am writing about the ficus trees on 2nd street and the request for them to be designated as heritage trees. As one of the authors and proponents of the updated urban forest ordinance and the creation of the city arborist and UFAC, I feel obliged to respond to the assertions by some in the community about what was intended.

There was never any intent that the UFAC was a decision-making body (hence the name “Advisory Committee”) nor that they would be a rubber stamp. The ordinance provides guidelines for designation of a heritage tree, but does not automatically grant that status to a tree meeting the criteria – it sets up a review process. The UFAC is asked to consider applications and make recommendations to the Planning Commission. They may take into account any number of factors, including, but not limited to meeting the criteria in the heritage tree definition. Other considerations may also come into play – that is why they, and the City Arborist, who all have expertise beyond that of the average citizen or Council member, are in this review process. We never envisioned a whole block of trees having heritage status, and, on the other hand, we did envision long-term planning and a holistic view of the landscape in a corridor so that an orderly transition to appropriate and sustainable trees and other plantings could be implemented.

I’m disappointed that the UFAC’s original vote on the ficus trees was re-opened as it brings uncertainty and frustration about when a recommendation is actually a recommendation that the City can act upon. I encourage you to develop a long-term plan that includes a time-phased removal of the ficus trees that are clearly not an appropriate specie for that location, and their replacement with trees and other plantings that can maintain the beauty of the corridor while encouraging biodiversity and creating habitat for critical native species from pollinators to birds of prey.

Please listen to the experts you have engaged. Heritage tree designation should not be a popularity contest or decided by the loudest voices. It should be a special designation used infrequently for especially significant trees, and not abused to undermine good ecological planning.

Thanks.

Lisa


To All:

I am writing about the ficus trees on 2nd Street and the request to designate them as Heritage Trees.

Having been a member of the city council when the idea of creating a Heritage Tree designation was first proposed, I wanted to share with you some background on that discussion.

The purpose of the designation was to recognize and protect unique and significant specimens such as the stately Norfolk pine on the corner of 4th & C Streets overlooking Moonlight Beach.

During the discussion, there was concern that by nominating a tree it would some how limit a person’s private property rights or be used to prevent private or public development. There was also concern that a designated tree could later become a hazard for any number of reasons. That is why the process has numerous steps for approval, including a review by a professional arborist, and a process to remove a tree from the listing. In the case of the 2nd Street ficus trees, it appears the process is being manipulated. Furthermore, I am a weekly volunteer at the Community Resource Center on 2nd Street. The ficus trees create a significant public safety hazard. The sidewalk becomes slippery from the accumulated leaves, seeds and other debris from the trees. The roots have created cracks and uneven sections in the sidewalk.

I do understand the value of street trees and the emotional connection people have with them. Unfortunately, the ficus are the wrong trees planted in the wrong place. The ficus trees on 2nd street are not native or unique nor do they have any historical significance. The prior proposal to remove trees over time and replace them with a variety of more appropriate trees would preserve the visual appeal of a ‘tree-lined street’ and add bio-diversity without the public safety and property damage now occurring.

The request to list these trees as Heritage Trees should be denied.

Sincerely,
Teresa Arballo Barth

56 comments:

  1. If the CC is serious about the Climate Action Plan that was unanimously approved by them last month, then they better be serious about increasing city tree coverage/ canopy for the purpose of carbon sequestration according to this same plan. The ficus trees on our private (condo) property were cut down to skeletons again this year by a local arborist (Pro-Trees) before they even had a chance to grow back to half of their full size. Healthy landscaping everywhere is being stunted or removed completely. The incentive is to "urbanize" and reduce privacy from the public right of way and aerial surveillance.

    Encinitas Climate Action Plan as of 01/17/18:

    http://www.encinitasca.gov/climate

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  2. How can a policy to protect trees be abused, Lisa?? This sounds insane!

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  3. a). These are historic trees – having been in our downtown for over 50 years
    b). The trees are majestic and healthy
    c). The City’s Climate Action Plan is based on reducing Green House Gases (GHG) and these trees take in and convert more than 20,000 lbs. per year
    d). The trees clean the air for us to breath
    e). Give us shade – as much as 20 degrees difference between the sun on asphalt vs under the shade of these trees
    f). Provide home for wildlife – nesting birds particularly
    g). Charm and Livability for locals and tourists
    h). Need to be watered, pruned to lessen root invasiveness
    i). Cutting down these historic trees is a terrible solution – they are amenable to pruning.
    j). Protect structures against wind
    k). improve air and water quality
    l). reduce erosion and storm water run off
    m). reduce noise pollution
    n) traffic calming
    o) energy conservation
    p) increased property values
    q). mature tree canopy
    r). filter air, sunlight, and water
    s). Streets in neighborhoods with trees are safer and create safe barriers from traffic

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    1. Apparently you don't live around or under these trees they have invasive roots that undermine buildings and sewers. They are dirty and drop sap and leaves on anything around them. TAKE THEM OUT and plant palm trees. Also a symbol of Southern California.

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    2. How about plastic cut out trees to symbolize all the chicanery and fraud in this city and state?

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    3. 6:30 - invasive roots? what plant doesn't have roots that seek water, nutrients? The roots can be managed and sidewalks can be redone. Leave the magnificent old trees alone.

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    4. Palms do just as much damage as other trees.Mr. CAlifornia. All trees have roots.
      Roots can be cut. Branches can be pruned. - Mr. CAlifornia.
      I like plastic cut out trees idea!

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  4. Encinitas is anything but green. It is all lip service, this is another example.

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    1. "Green" is as Marco Gonzalez defines it when he fights for density bonus. "Green" is as Teresa Barth and Lisa define it which means they want to get a plaque with the designation of Tree City, yet they interpret policies to not protect and preserve trees but to give reason to get rid of them to make way for developers.

      They will recommend a Housing Element to increase the height limits and reduce parking standards to be "green." Vote NO!

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  5. I thought Lisa and Teresa both retired from politics. Please just go away!

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  6. It seems like the policy that they wrote and all of the time and effort that they have asked their advisory committee to spend is for one tree in Encinitas! Teresa mentions the Norfolk pine on 4th and C. Can they provide other examples in the city that meet their criteria? The fact that these trees are valued by residents and provide shade and enjoyment that many people love while satisfying the goals of the Climate Action Plan does not seem to matter to them.

    I guess that the answer to 8:25's question is that by writing stupid rules, they can come back and interpret them to meet their own goals. They did not listen to voters when they were on council, and they still don't.

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  7. These ficus trees are definitely the defining characteristic of the local downtown landscape. They require attention to maintain, but that is an artifact of the urban accomodation. Their beauty and charm merit the extra attention, as stripping them out leaves an ugly vacancy that can't be replaced without many transpiring years for some sort of landscape replacement to reestablish itself.
    The city contractors have been hacking away at these trees recently; reflecting the observation of another poster. Maybe they are being removed in increments, as to stem the criticism of outright removal. Shaffer and Barth are the concrete twins - pave paradise and have their parking lot.

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    1. Their metered parking lot! How many times did Shaffer raise that idea to charge for downtown parking??

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    2. Shaffer was so full of herself that Goodyear wanted to contract her head.

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    3. It would be nice if these two ladies quietly rode their bikes off into the sunset.

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  8. Speaking of landscape, why is Cal Trans suddenly chopping down all the trees on the freeway exits and entrances? Some of these have obviously been there for decades - it makes the area look vacant. It seems like an unnecessary make work project.

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    1. Caltrans is redoing the Encinitas Blvd. and Santa Fe Dr. interchanges for the freeway expansion. These plans have been in the works for a long time.

      The trees have to go. Such is "progress."

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    2. LOL, the trees are on 2nd St. I don't think Caltrans' "progress" has reached quite that far west...yet.

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    3. 10:56 AM Read 10:43 AM - This was a different set of trees.

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    4. Ah, gotcha - thank you.

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  9. Teresa Barth and Lisa Shaffer are all about titles and symbolism without actually doing anything meaningful. They throw their titles around to impress others while even their former supporters abandoned them for their deceit and ineffectiveness. Many are ashamed that we voted for them, contributed to their campaigns, or asked others to support them. They don't listen.

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  10. I find it hypocritical that the Teresa Barth fruit forest was able to go forward with disregard to the majority of rules that our city has had in place, yet Lisa and Teresa are calling for the strictest interpretation of the heritage tree policy to ignore major public sentiment.

    According to the Coast News, "The second hurdle involves the naming of the grove after Barth, which only meets two of the six thresholds in the city’s naming policy."

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    1. What are the native edible fruit trees found in the Teresa Barth Edible Forest?

      Also, where does Tony Kranz figure into this issue? He ran on being a tree guy the first time, and I thought that he was interested in protecting our city tree canopy.

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    2. Tony ran on several things he later flipped on.

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    3. 2:44,

      I hope you can find a way to continue moving forward after suffering such such injustice.

      Thoughts and prayers.

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  11. These two former council members cannot believe that they are not worth anyone's time listening to. They certainly are not worth listening to.

    They are irrelevant and should stfu. They sold out their former supporters in no time. At one time I voted for them, and I have regretted that vote ever since. That it only took as couple of months to realize my mistaken trust in them is of little compensation.

    Anything coming from Lisa or Teresa is a waste of space. Some past council members have known better and have stayed out of the publics attention. These two should buy a clue from those who knew better and stayed away.

    They do nothing for their damaged reputations by interjecting themselves into issues where no one wants to have to put up with their views. Go away and stay away. Your ego's are showing where you are not wanted.

    Enough of anything more from these two has beens. Yes, you held office for a limited time. Now butt out. You will gain some small amount of respect if you do. If you don't, you will continue to dredge up your past like you both are doing now.

    Go away Teresa and Lisa, and leave your community out of your ongoing obstructions to the future of our community. You are history and have nothing for us. You sold that out years ago.

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  12. These specimens need to be maintained and have not by the tree service the city uses.

    They are appropriate if they were maintained and cleaned up after by the city.

    Santa Monica has 3,000 of these and they are treasures for that city.

    We only have a few that deserve to be treated correctly and have not.

    The city could easily sweep up and clean the fallen debris before it becomes muck. They never have. Sidewalk cleaning would hardly be needed once the sidewalks are steam cleaned, if they are swept up on a regular basis.

    The roots can be controlled through correct pruning practices. They never have.

    Lisa and Teresa butt out. You are irrelevant. Get it through your thick heads that you are history and not a good one. Your pasts could recede from memory if you would only let it. We sure want to not have to hear any opinion from you two again.

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  13. I think that this is, as usual, a problem with the quality of work of our city staff or the people charged with oversight of contractors. We have people who hold positions and don't want to do their jobs. Teresa and Lisa were always so busy praising staff who made mistake after mistake, lied, and did poor work that work standards have degraded. If they hire the landscaping out, there should be a person in charge at the city to make sure that the work to maintain these trees is done at a higher standard than what we have experienced. There are a lot of people who would want a contract and who would do a better job. It is not the fault of the trees; this is a problem of poor work standards.

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  14. Teresa and Lisa = dumb and dumber, mean and meaner...
    LADIES MUST GO AWAY!
    Signed
    Dumbest (voted for both of them - their liars)

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    1. So many of us voted for them and now feel like the biggest idiots...sadly, you're not alone.

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  15. Nothing in comparison to the debacle when Crazy Eyed C was in Office.

    Now that was a shit show. Can you imagine City Council being led by Dementia? Just look at the eyes, that will tell you......

    Those were the days!!

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    1. Now we have Andreen supporting Teresa and Lisa's position (6:44). What more evidence do we need that this is about removing trees to make way for more lenient development standards?

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    2. You also have Andreen posting at 6:44. Too many chemical dependencies....

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  16. AnonymousFebruary 21, 2018 at 2:44 PM
    I find it hypocritical that the Teresa Barth fruit forest was able to go forward with disregard to the majority of rules that our city has had in place, yet Lisa and Teresa are calling for the strictest interpretation of the heritage tree policy to ignore major public sentiment.

    According to the Coast News, "The second hurdle involves the naming of the grove after Barth, which only meets two of the six thresholds in the city’s naming policy."

    AnonymousFebruary 22, 2018 at 6:21 AM
    2:44,

    I hope you can find a way to continue moving forward after suffering such such injustice.

    Thoughts and prayers.

    WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENT by 6:21 above, (Teresa or Lisa) you are the ones who are suffering! Actual leaders lead through example and model rules that they wish to foster in others.
    Why not let these trees be identified as Heritage Trees when the fruit grove naming was not within the rules set forth, but Teresa's supporters wanted to recognize the work that she had done on council. Teresa, as a strong rule enforcer could have refused the honor, and Lisa could go to meeting tonight and bring forth this other instance of tree-naming abuse.

    Will they do it? No. Is it hypocritical? YES!

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    1. If you have to break the rules to plant an apple tree, then the rules are stupid, and need breaking.

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    2. Agree completely! These ficus should be designated Heritage Trees since they meet the majority of the criteria.

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  17. I bicycle through this block of trees every day. Every single day. I can tell you this block is unique. The trees actually create a micro-climate you can feel as you ride through it. This block of trees is the beating heart of the city which is only fitting as they shade the Community Resource Center renewing the lives of the unfortunate among us. I ask that we take a step back from debating this designation or that, and ask ourselves what we actually value as a city. Yes, it may be less convenient than some alternatives, but if that is the criteria we use to move forward, eventually our city culture will be defined by the same impulse. You have to use something to really appreciate its value. I drive through these trees every morning and silently bow in their presence. Shrines get old and have to be tended to. As they age they become more troublesome to maintain, but you can see examples of cities everywhere that make that extra effort. Those are the places we remember.

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    1. This is BARTER TOWN. Nothing matters but money.

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    2. Thank you, Cyrus. All too often decisions are made based solely on income vs. expense. Too much of that and we lose what makes Encinitas so special.

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  18. Once more if you please. Mike Andreen has moved on and has many other daily occupations to keep him busy. If you simply cannot help but bringing his name into every argument on this forum; then it is you who is lost in transference. Mr. Andreen has recently stated that now that Catherine, Joe Mosca and Tasha H. B. are in-charge along with Brenda and Diane Langager backing them up he is comfortable enough to become semi-retired and caring for family members in Ventura County: and that the reason he isn't e-mailing his opinion or writing Fahrenheit 451 any longer that he has assured the Mayor that she is doing a fine job and won't those constantly on this blog be surprised to find Mr. Andreen endorsing the Mayor this summer?

    Mr. Stocks on the other hand is still causing trouble in his gout-swollen dotage: trade Issa for Stocks? Nope.

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    1. Stocks is running for assembly, not US House.

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    2. Hahahaha hilarious, 8:45 is Andreen posting about himself. What is the drug du jour, Mikey?

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    3. 9:45-

      Go see a shrink. You’re delusional calling everyone Mikey .

      You may have multiple personalities, but I am not Mikey .

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    4. I'm not calling everyone Mikey, 8:19. Just you.

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      Mikey we can tell your bully writings. Quite trying to confuse the old hags with Dementia. They have enough to worry about without your interference.

      Please just look at their eyes and have some sympathy.

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  19. 8:45pm If anyone believed that pile of nonsense you posted, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell.

    Slimy mikey's obsessive compulsion to drag certain residents into a thread that they don't have a thing to do with and continue to ignore his pleas for attention by letting him rave on all likes without retribution, must be a source for his ongoing frustration.

    It wouldn't matter how far away he may be, and I doubt he is further than O'side, he can still post here from whatever hole in the ground he is residing. You are so not funny slimy mikey, and never have been.



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  20. Why have Mark Muir and Mo Muir sponsored a freeway off ramp?? Couldn't be because it serves them politically?? NOOOOOO. They're just being good neighbors. (BTW Mark and MO your off ramp looks awful, might want to get over there and clean it up.)

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  21. 9:58am. Can anyone imagine Mark and Mo cleaning anything up themselves? That would be a sight to see.

    With his bloated pension, he can well afford to pay someone else to labor on his behalf.

    Yes, it is an election year after all.

    The new Cardiff Current blog serves the same purpose for the Muirs. If the Cardiff Current exists beyond the election in November, I would be surprised.

    It is a tool to be used on Marks behalf to help him retain his council seat in November.

    If only there was another choice for that new district.



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  22. Whoever the Dumb A** bitch is that keeps posting every comment she doesn't agree with as Mikey is pretty annoying.

    Sounds like an old lady in early stages of Dementia.

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  23. 10:20pm. Anyone that supports the bullying of a resident like mikey does regularly, is just as low on the evolutionary scale.

    TIME IS UP for you too.

    No, I am not some old lady in the early stages of dementia. Just a resident that is appalled at the behavior of a male that has a medical condition that needs to be treated before he has to be sued into compliance. This cretin deserves no quarter. Anyone who supports him is in the same bag.

    His unwarranted and ignorant blaming of a woman who continues to ignore his despicable behavior is obviously a source of frustration to him.

    Some of us refuse give him a pass. His record speaks for itself.

    If you support him, shame on you. Your TIME IS UP.

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    1. 10:20 appears to have anger management issues. Quite the little outburst there.

      Protesting overmuch, 10:20?

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  24. No anger issues here. Just speaking the truth. And don't call me Mikey.

    - I am anon, not Mikey.

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  25. 10:20pm and 9:57pm have the same mentality, whether they are slimy mikey or not.

    This subterranean believes the source of criticism is of the female
    gender, which it is not. This is the tell of the same old, same old mistaken as usual mikey. That there could be a man who supports TIME IS UP and ME TOO, is beyond his ability to comprehend.

    Time is up for the both of you, if there could really be two who cling to a behavior whose time has come. What a sorry state for him/them.

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  26. Proper pruning will slow down these trees.
    We can control them.
    WEST coast Arborist (hired by the city) are NOT pruning them correctly for the long run.

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  27. A). can be pruned in such a way to lessen root invasiveness
    i). Cutting down these ALL of these trees is a drastic solution – they are amenable to pruning.
    j). Protect structures against wind
    k). improve air and water quality
    l). reduce erosion and storm water run off
    m). reduce noise pollution

    o) energy conservation
    p) increased property values
    q). mature tree canopy

    s). Streets in neighborhoods with trees are safer and create safe barriers from traffic

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