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Thank you WC, you are appreciated!
ReplyDeleteUndercover readers: accept no imitations!
Agreed.
DeleteFriday, October 29, 2010 when the Leucadia blog stopped was a sad day. JP did an excellent job as the OG blogmaster.
DeleteSo, Encinitas Undercover, what's the truth about Encinitas Unhinged?
ReplyDeleteW.C. Varones - please post and tell us the scoop?
ReplyDeleteJust F off, trolls. WC doesn’t have to explain your stupidity to anyone. You guys reek of the second lowest votegetter’s fanatics.
ReplyDelete7:56- ignorant fool.
DeleteThat is not the question. the question is why? WC can chime in on what’s the scoop? Let’s get me some answers from WC. he knows and you don’t asswipe.
ReplyDelete7:52, imitation of an imitation is more accurate.
ReplyDeleteGood to have you back moderating again. Your input is appreciated and needed around here. While some have an issue with anonymity, I find it a breath of fresh air even with the forever stale ones endlessly spouting their bs. I will take the good with the bad. Thanks EU.
ReplyDelete👏
Delete8:48- I agree.
ReplyDeleteSo much for not being a liar! Despite his very dramatic promise to stay off social media, Morris is back at it posting, posing at the beach as a vigilant one man posse. Complete with the usual threats, sure hope the sheriff is keeping track. Someone needs to
ReplyDeleteNot worth our time, show’s over.
DeleteThe morons have no legitimacy. Never had and never will. Blowhards like these two deserve the rot that they have wrought upon our community. What a shame! Thunder did not feel the same. Just as Crista tanked her last run, the morons did the same. As a two time loser, Thunder does not deserve a third chance to screw this community over. Two strikes and you are out. Thunder had the chance to help create a new council majority and failed us again. At least we have Bruce, but he is alone when he could have been part of a new majority.
ReplyDeleteAssuming he'll follow his own practice of voting to appoint, any ideas on which way Kranz is leaning to backfill his seat? He will assuredly have the support of Hinze and Lyndes for the majority. Have heard Mali Woods-Drake's name mentioned as well as some mystery man Kranz supposedly is considering. Rest assured Garvin Walsh, who has already been quoted as supporting appointment, will have a hand directing the annointed. He cozied up to Kranz earlier this year and more recently to Woods-Drake whom he calls "sweet in person."
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable freaking losers - all of you that had Kranz signs up like John Gjata, and Kathy Lees….. you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself and you are the reason why Encinitas is being destroyed by developers.
ReplyDeleteYou all suck and Dalakranz sucks. Karma can not come quick enough.
Lees hates Woods-Drake how’s she going to deal with her boy Kranz’s first choice pick?
DeleteYour impotent rage entertains me.
DeleteMore please.
1:43- figures. The DelaKranz crowd is a sick sick group..
DeleteBeing entertained by someone’s sorrow of the small surf town they love being destroyed by a BIA for pure profit at the expense of existing residents is proof of your sickness. I have faith in karma. Ommm
Kranz will appoint so he wants. He doesn’t give a shit about residents including Kathie Lees. He acknowledge most people in the city don’t support him.
DeleteHe will appoint Mali and they will scream that Kathy Lee’s is a complete racist along with all the other Whiteys in Encinitas.
Already happened, 2:10. Mali screams racist at anything that moves. Why she’s been so useful to Blakespear and Kranz fending off detractors.
Delete1:53 speaks for “existing residents” who just voted overwhelmingly against his BS.
Delete3:03- You are an ignorant one aren’t you?
DeleteI wasn’t speaking for existing residence. I was speaking for myself.
And residence did not overwhelmingly support Kranz. In fact, they overwhelmingly voted against kranz. A majority of voters voted against Kranz.
Carry-on. Your pathetically disgusting world. All of your current supporters suck and wCarry-on your pathetically disgusting world. All of your current supporters suck and we know who you are. Karmas coming whether you like it or not.
And I can’t think it’s going to be very fun but then again, you all earned it.
“Residence” not “residents” 8:03 just outed himself as Morris.
Delete8:06- I’m not Morris asswipe. I just used Siri and didn’t edit. All the point are valid.
DeleteY’all have a tell whether follower or followed.
DeleteWell, stop using Siri and proofread your posts to get your message across without confusing readers.
DeleteThe nasty name calling, another tell.
DeleteTrying to guilt tony into doing the right thing and allowing us to vote for his successor is a pipe dream, but hope springs eternal. Maybe he could start off his reign with a good move for a change. I won't be taking that bet. He owes some manipulators a few favors and it is time to pay up. For the residents, don't hold your breath.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile at EV, Steven Golden Shower declared Encinitas over because there was traffic during Street Fair.
ReplyDeleteWhat a f-n loser.
Go back to Jersey, dipshit.
That putz knows nothing about Encinitas.
DeleteKranz has to appoint someone that is OK with the BIA. That's how Kranz got elected, so if Mali can help him, she will be it. If not, there will be someone else like Sharon Sherod of the Planning Commission who helped oust Bruce, or perhaps if she doesn't live in that district, he will find someone in his district that will appease the Building Industry.
DeleteHow did Sherod help Bruce’s ousting?
DeleteSherod endorsed Bruce. She did not help oust him.
DeleteIs she D1? She’s disliked too many projects to be a reliable ‘yes’ vote for Tony’s developer friendly city council.
DeleteShe was a reliable "Yes" to 50% affordable. She's not the worst by a long shot.
Delete9:08 is right, Sherod is too much of an independent thinker for Kranz' taste.
DeleteWell, that would be John Gjata or Kathleen keys. They kiss ass to Kranz for anything even if crown shit on them all day. Both love over development in our coastal town and believe in the concept of section 8, and “affordable” housing.
ReplyDeleteNeither understand the concept of free enterprise, or handouts kill the free will and people.
You don't free will if you work for a corporation, lol....
Delete8:27- thanks for proving you are an idiot.
DeleteNo, my pick is Mali- she screams racist at everybody, especially at interracial married couples. Her concept as racists like whiter than white Blakespear know much more about how to integrate society, than people who are actually living it.
ReplyDeleteThey are the leaders of do as I say not as I do.
Mali is also completely illogical which is perfect. She truly believes the BIA can build affordable houses for every person in the world without a job. It’s amazing to me that people like her can you even exist.
Go Mali. Remember everybody except for you as a freaking racist.
Dear conspiracy theorists,
ReplyDeleteIf your election hypothetical includes 100% of votes transferring to the candidate of your choice if anyone dropped out, then you are dumb. That’s not how any of this works.
Tony would have wiped the floor with any candidate in a 1:1 matchup.
Have a good day.
Really 9:29? Please expand on your theory. Enlighten us conspiracy theorists, please! How DOES it work, cause it seems the 4 way split worked perfectly for the not so popular Kranz. Isn't that why he didn't do any campaigning (again)? His lazy ass had another stupid candidate do his work for him. Seems pretty typical for Encinitas politics. Stack the decks and nothing changes.
Delete"Wiped the floor?" Thanks for the laff!
Delete10:30, since you asked, I will elucidate.
DeleteSome voters voted for Cindy or Jeff because they liked the graphic design of their yard signs. Others because they know a friend or neighbor who supports that candidate. Others didn’t know any of the candidates and just picked the name that sounded most mayor-ish. Others voted for Cindy because she was a woman. Or Jeff because he’s a man.
To assume that all of these voters are 100% unified and motivated by a dogmatic opposition to one candidate is absurd; and to assume that they would all shift their votes uniformly to another candidate in a hypothetical scenario where their first choice didn’t exist is just plain dumb.
There are many voters who picked Jeff who would never vote for Cindy, and vise versa. Some of those would vote for Tony, others would leave the mayor’s race blank.
Let’s use an example to highlight the dumbness, shall we.
Both Tony and Bruce won with ~47% of the vote in four-way races.
If the theory that Tony would have lost without a fragmented field is true, then it should also be true for Bruce.
Do you really think that had the field consolidated down to a 2-way race between Bruce and one opponent, that Bruce’s total would have stayed at 47%, and his opponent would have won with 53%?
Doesn’t that sound stupid?
It should.
Because it is.
Tony smoked the field, and there is no believable alternate universe where he could have lost this race.
Considering Cremona made a minimal effort if at all, Blobe was a nonstarter, and Morris stole the show for nothing, Kranz was a shoe in. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, but don't mistake his win for his fitness for office. He's a liar, a scoundrel, and watch him to lead the majority to appoint fraudster Mali Woods-Drake in January. Then you can talk about smoking and wiping and have fun with what they've got planned for you. Sounds like you'll like it, actually.
Delete😂😂😂 good one!!!
DeleteWhat a joke.
The lol and joke comment was to 9:29am…. 😂😂
Delete11:31. Let’s cut to the chase. A primary would have voted out time wasters like Blobe and proven if a lunatic like Morris could actually withstand a one on one race. All your elucidation means nothing while spoilers like Redela and Morris are tossed into the salad to take votes from legitimate candidates like Ehlers and Cremona.
ReplyDeleteLook at the Thunder and Lyndes race. Both are mediocre candidates who used PACS, mailers and rhetoric equally. They both got upwards of 50% of the vote with Joy looking a little less mediocre than Julie and probably winning. No spoilers, no interference.
With a split vote, potentially consolidated resources get split and lazy slugs like Tony do nothing while narcissists like Jeff do all the work for him.
Sadly, the election reform needed in Encinitas which includes adding a primary and appointment/election reform is never going to happen while slugs/thugs like Tony rule the roost.
It's shoo-in, not shoe-in. Nobody kicked Kranz.
ReplyDeleteIt's apples and oranges to compare a district race with the at-large mayoral race.
The point of comparison is a head to head race between two candidates vs. one with two spoilers involved. Same applies to Ehlers vs. Redela. Blakespear's plan to split votes away from Ehlers using Vaughn to give Redela the edge did not pan out. Davis likewise would have been eliminated in a primary.
DeleteThunder just conceded this afternoon. Joy is in.
ReplyDeleteWas that ever really in doubt with the machinations and diversions created to pull the wool over the uninformed majority of voters? Talk about woulda, coulda shoulda.
Those who choose to be informed and know what is going on keep losing. Knowledge doesn't seem to be a source for power around here. Well, duh. No sheet Sherlock.
When your mommy told you you were very special, she was lying.
DeleteYou are no more informed, no more smart, and no more special than the average voter.
You want to win elections?
Start by assuming the voters got it right, and ask yourself how your candidates, campaigns, policy prescriptions, fundraising, and information sharing all failed, and how you might fix them next time.
Spoiler alert!!!!!
DeleteI believe the correct phrase is no shit Sherlock, but I’ll give you an autocorrect mulligan.
DeleteYES! Julie pulled an anti Kari Lake! Good on her!
Because I notice these things, have any of you noticed how Mrs. Thunder has been stealing Catherine's moves in how she presents Herself? Dresses the same, poses the same ocean behind her and signs her concession “with gratitude”
It’s a bit uncanny. But I get it. Julie really wants to be a winner. But this storebrand version of Catherine isn’t going to cut the storebrand mustard.
Julie. Be yourself. You still won’t ever win but at least you be authentic
Julie got the karma she deserved. Her meddling caught up with her.
Delete“With gratitude” was Lisa Shaffer’s barfworthy sign off. Make it stop.
Delete6:01- it how they got elected not right. We all know Dalakranz sold out to developers hence the no 1 position of worse mayors in the history of Encinitas. Current order of turd buckets:
ReplyDelete1. Dalakranz
2. BIAspear
3. $tock$
OK, what's the deal with Encinitas Unhinged? Will Encinitas Undercover please explain?
ReplyDeleteEU doesn't have to explain anything about Encinitas Unhinged.
ReplyDeleteThey are not related in any way, shape, or form.
EU, thank you for the years of allowing the residents who choose to, comment on everything about our community, good and bad, and relevant and irrelevant.
I suspect but cannot confirm that Unhinged is more idiocy from the morons. Unhinged fits them to a T.
Agree on your suspicion. With a hint of Starvin’ Garvin in the mix.
DeleteYep, unhinged reeks of El Garvinito. Wish that guy would no mas molesto Encinitas.
DeleteThe shittiest newbies to Encinitas
ReplyDelete1. Garvin - boring stories and help put a town dunce in as mayor of our formerly cool beach town.
2. Mali - Racist screaming bitch who calls interracial couples racists yet salutes the whitest of whites racist "leaders" like BIA, Newsom, and our town dunce/mayor.
3. ? -
Side note: 1. and 2. are connected, so double the BS.
Delete3. Willow Xylia Love. Someone in their early 20s who expresses verbose opinions on every possible topic reeks of a front. “Her” photo is taken from an Ohio State resident’s profile on LinkedIn. Where else have we seen the rampant use of someone else’s images to mislead? Oh, yeah….
Hey BIA and town dunce Dalakranz -
ReplyDeleteIts working! I am so stoked!
Dalakranz's focus on all the bad stuff, inviting all the sketchy homeless to our town, appointing racist screaming Mali, letting developers poop on our neighborhoods with 3 story+ stack and pack without building any infrastructure and whaalaaa. Lower home prices..... yeah we are heading to affordable housing. Its working.
Pray for more homeless, more crowds, more deaths on the road, more date rapes, murders and thefts.... hence lower home prices.
An early Christmas Early Christmas present.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/story/2022-11-22/san-diego-home-price
Now pay your taxes, mortgage and go find a new job. Your current employer is about to email you a layoff notice. 🙏🏾
Happy Thanksgiving, early Merry Christmas and thanks for voting for our town dunce!
😊🎄🙏🏾
You know who to thank ;)
DeleteDalakranz is amazing! He's so smart. Lower home prices. Yay!
DeleteI can not wait to hear all those Realtor stories to their "clients" they sold that $1.5 million dollar tax anchor too. 😁
Thanks Tony!!
and here we go 🍾
DeleteYay! Lower affordable housing ahead. Keep up the great work Dalakranz!
DeleteNewly built: Median of $840,000, with 203 sales. This figure combines single-family homes, townhouses and condos. Down from the peak of $890,500 in August.
Almost all of Southern California saw price drops from September to October. Riverside County had the biggest drop, down 2.7 percent for a median of $545,000.
It was followed by San Diego County with its 2.2 percent drop; Ventura County, down 1.3 percent for a median of $755,000; San Bernardino County, down 1 percent to $490,000; and Orange County, down 0.1 percent for a median of $950,000. Los Angeles County was up 0.2 percent for a median of $801,500.
🙏🏾
Do not worry sheep. Dalakranz has this all figured out.
ReplyDeleteWith inflation actually over 10% and climbing a 2% reduction is a positive thing.
Your financial and quality of life future is in safe hands with our town dunce.
👍
Thanks Tony! Lower the quality fo life and prices drop. You were right! lets all hope for more date rapes, thefts, and sketchy drug addict new resident you invited shenanigans. Keep it up. Lower rents ahead.
ReplyDeleteMoeder said there was a major drop in residential building interest from August to September ...
“Homebuilders are pushing pause,” he said. “Prices are falling, but construction costs haven’t done the same.
“A lot of projects are unfeasible right now,” Moeder said. “It’s not good. We need housing and need to be building it, but the economics aren’t really working out.”
https://encinitasundercover.blogspot.com/2022/11/saturday-morning-open-thread.html?sc=1669126461895#c619027306635522999
Pop! and now comes free fall! Dump whatever you can not afford at 50% your current estimate. This one is going to be a major "correction" 🔥🧾
If you want to live in a GOP-run paradise in CA, there’s always Barstow, Needles, El Centro, and Brawley.
DeleteI hear housing is super cheap, and the homeless won’t live there.
You’re joking right? Barstow looks like a zombie movie.
Delete7:28: what are you talking about. It’s a Republican Eden. Low taxes. Freedumb to pew pew your compensation device anywhere you want. Run exclusively by MAGA extremists. Cruelty to brown people, the homeless, women, LGBTQ, and cyclists is encouraged.
DeleteIt’s their model for what Encinitas should be.
So you say. Cruise downtown. Walking dead.
Delete6:58- you sound like an ignorant renter. Ha.
Delete9:51, prove me wrong.
DeleteName a GOP run city in CA that isn’t a complete shithole post-apocalyptic hellscape.
If you accidentally find yourself on a freeway off-ramp surrounded by broken glass, fast food wrappers, spent shell casings, old tires, and tumbleweeds, you are in a GOP-led town.
DeleteContinue straight back onto the freeway until you see palm trees, green parks, beaches, nice restaurants, and fit people exercising.
What an idiot. Typical Democrat taking credit for a bunch of shit they did not accomplish. San Diego along with a bunch of other formerly nice towns were developed by Republicans and other freethinkers and not Democrats.
DeleteThe effed up left-wing Democrats now climb into cities and spread their stink. To claim otherwise, is false.
Go ahead and tell us about your example of a well run GOP city from the red areas of this map.
DeleteYou can’t do it, can you?
https://www.ppic.org/wp-content/uploads/californias-political-geography-figure-2.png
The apple doesn’t fall far from the violent, lying, bigoted, hateful, anti-democracy, POS domestic terrorist tree.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/colorado-shooting-anderson-lee-aldrich-randy-voepel-b2229836.html
Readers want to know: will Julie and Garvin break up, now that she’s a 2X loser and he helped Tony win? Will Julie and Kim breakup, now that Jeff’s STILL a loser and Julie helped Tony win?
ReplyDeleteWill Julie finally give up and mind her own business? Is Mali just a distraction while Tony and Garvin find a better dumbass who similar to Catherine’s former picks, goes along with his votes without making trouble?
Stay tuned for the next set of develop approvals, upzoning shenanigans, destruction of ECR and the Encinitas new homeless shelter coming to your neighborhood soon!
You forgot will Jeff Morris stop blaming everyone else for his failures and live up to his promise to stay off social media, which he has yet to adhere to.
DeleteAnd why would anyone accept his sycophants believe a liar like Morris? He and that awful woman he’s married to got Tony elected.
DeleteGarvin/Julie/Tony’s scheme worked perfectly.
Mali is not a distraction. She is a danger. She repeats whatever is fed to her. You can see it on Encinitas Now when she and Marco tag team their lines. She says and does as she's told by her handlers. She is smooth in front of the audience if she wants to impress. Her mask slips in front of anyone who challenges her uninformed opinions. Her problem is there is a ton of evidence in the form of screenshots that show her true nature when she's not keeping herself under control.
ReplyDeleteDoes Kranz really think he's going to install Mali without the whole city seeing what and who she is unmasked?
Nope, she's a sideshow. She'd have to give up her lucrative gigs with E4E and SEIU. Conflicts of interest and all that. She's a grifter, who'd rather pull strings behind the scenes than have public accountability (even the little there is in Encinitas politics).
DeleteLucrative?? E4E had to move because she could not make the rent. SEIU gig she’s on the verge of losing because according to the nurses’ union, she’s not performing.
DeleteNeither she nor the mayor have ever made a secret of the fact that they want her own counsel. That is the plum job for her.
*on council
DeleteRent notwithstanding, it’s a paycheck.
DeleteI guess we’ll find out in January. Either way, Encinitas is f*cked.
True.
DeleteWe can all agree on that. Encinitas is fucked!
ReplyDeleteAnd voters like John Gjata, and Kathy Lee’s are to blame for supporting the town dunce.
Note to the public - never put your town dunce in as mayor.
Go look at Kranz’s 460s for a who’s who of supporters.
ReplyDelete12:09 - Yup - A list of sell out under Kranz.
ReplyDeletehttps://archive.encinitasca.gov/WebLink/Browse.aspx?id=655195&dbid=0&repo=CityofEncinitas.
I know who screwed Encinitas and to boycott.
What does it matter? The damage is done again. Half the registered voters didn't engage, we had a split vote and the same management remains in charge.
DeleteThe only activists that ever seem to make any progress here are the ones on the side of the council.
When was the last win for the residents? Prop A?
We're watching the complete disintegration of what was once a lovely beach town. Greed, corruption and progressive values are leading our city's decisions now.
It seems the complainers will have plenty to bitch about and no way to win for the next 2-4 years. Every proposed development will get approved as well as a homeless shelter. We will continue to be expensive, full of traffic while the city gets seedy and rundown.
All you whiny activists should have managed the last election cycle better. You let Julie and Garvin call the shots and we got nowhere. Again. You were all so easy to outmaneuver.
Julie and Garvin called the shots with the uninformed. The rest of us would not take their calls. More uninformed than informed I guess. So how did that work out for Thunder?
DeleteShow the proof that Julie, Garvin and Tony conspired.
DeleteLet's discuss the outmaneuvering.
DeleteHow was it done? And who is the best maneuverer?
Strategy is great, but tactics wins. Ask our new State Senator.
Let’s see, I’d like a former drug ADDICT with very left of left leanings on council.
ReplyDeleteUrge the council to have a vote for the open seat. Instead of, again, another nasty fight over an appointment. Do the new mayor and council really want to start off with everybody pissed off, again?
DeleteWhen has that ever stopped them?? But to your point yes, extreme public pressure to do the right thing might give them pause. Maybe. Have to try, right?
Delete2:22 there is no "show the proof," you were clearly just not on Garvin's call list, not Thunder's either. Obviously they didn't put anything in writing but it happened.
ReplyDeleteAnd when Ehlers learned Garvin was signing him up as part of the package let's just say that was nipped in the bud.
DeleteFirst you said there were emails.
DeleteThen Marco said let’s see the emails.
Now you say it was all verbal.
Hmmmm.
I didn't say there were emails. Plenty of phone calls and meetings in person, though. I don't care what Marco wants, I don't have emails and never said there were. Why do you care about him? Weird.
Delete3:52 You're making shit up. You can't show a bit of proof because you have none. Hearsay isn't proof. You must be a conspiracy theorist.
DeleteYou weren't on the inside, don't whine. Be glad, it was not a pretty place to be. And like not caring about Marco? Those of us on the icky inside don't care what you believe or not. You must be frustrated.
DeleteFuck Marco. It wasn't his deal.
DeleteJulie, best friends with Kim Morris, and Garvin best buds with Julie, who was aligning openly with Tony Kranz, got Jeff Morris to run for Mayor, knowing the asshole wouldn't win but would split the vote. Julie openly hates Cindy Cremona and got a few whisper campaigns going as well as her PAC to bad mouth her. The same PAC who spent as much as Joy's PAC, BTW and lost (again). Julie thought she was entitled to win this seat and thought Tony, even if he didn't openly help her, would not move against her. But Tony backed Joy and did nothing for anyone so Joy won. Sadly, a lot of you knew Julie was flawed and backed her anyway. So now you don't have a new mayor and only one new council member, who can be a perpetual (and safe) martyr by always voting against the majority. Whoopee - coz to celebrate!
Julie had all you idiots convinced her seat was more important than the Mayor's - and guess what? She was dead wrong. Now Tony gets to call the shots AND he gets to replace his position with an appointed handpicked progressive, probably Mali.
Even the insiders chose wrong and the rest of Encinitas pays the price. Good job you bunch of losers.
If you're such an insider, you'd have proof. Without proof, you're just spreading bullshit. If you don't care what people believe, why are you posting bullshit here?
DeleteProve me wrong!
DeleteProve yourself right! You made the claim! It's bullshit!
DeleteNo mention of how Mark & Mo were involved in Julie's scheme. You haven't even scratched the surface.
Delete5:23 Julie always had the Republicans helping her, including Gaspar who was backing Jeff Morris of all people. Repubs have all lost their right wing minds since Trump, Julie included. Many who know her know just how conservative she really is.
Delete2:52 Ehlers was on board until Tony fired him. He said he could work with Tony. Now he has to.
ReplyDelete5:22 don't have to. One of those assholes will piss the other off and it will eventually all come out.
ReplyDeleteBTW why do you think Julie stayed on Watchdogs? 1) She never disputed the nasty things Jeff said about other mayoral candidates 2) she supported Morris's candidacy clandestinely as did her PAC's owner - but everyone knows that already 3) Even if she wanted to bail, she couldn't without risking the truth coming out of the scumbag backstabbing Morrises.
Also, many here recall Julie, Kim and Garvin all saying nice things about Tony when he supposedly backed ONV earlier in the year.
Quotes from EV by Walsh:
The City Council debated the Tony Kranz proposal to back the Local Control petition drive tonight. Public comments from Bruce Ehlers and Julie Thunder in support were sharp and well-stated. Councilman Kranz argued his position well, but he couldn't even get a second to bring it to a vote. He's on the right side of what is going to be a winning issue.
and by Thunder in 2021
I'm not going to jump in and criticize Tony here. In my mind, he came to the right conclusion and acted on it, albeit late in the game and in a weak way. Lately I've noticed that he is often the outlier in 4-1 votes. Maybe something has happened to allow him to see who the other 4 truly are? I honestly don't know, but when someone makes a turn for the better, I have to support that (even if I do it quietly).
The alliances were made well before anyone announced. Julie sold out to Tony so she could win, just like her best bud Morris tried to sell out to Blakespear.
Happens all the time and it happened to us.
Good work hanging onto those comments, I remember them. Julie was admonished for being taken in by Kranz, but continued her "give him a chance, he's redeemed" remarks.
DeleteI remember those too. I was really surprised, especially since Julie seemed to hate everything about Blakespear and her council. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Delete5:44 Because Thunder supported Kranz in his local control effort does not prove she conspired with Morris and Walsh to get Kranz elected as mayor. Generally speaking, Kranz and Thunder are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. She is more aligned with Cremona and Ehlers for her goals in Encinitas.
DeleteWhat local control effort??
Delete9:10 really? than why didn't she support Cremona? She did the exact opposite actually.
Delete11:11 See 5:44 above.
DeleteDid any of the candidates publicly announce they supported another candidate?
DeleteYou can lead a horse to the water but can't make him drink. The same goes for some deniers who fail to see the underhanded political machinations that have brought us to where we are now. No matter how many times an explanation of certain relationships is offered, it is not enough for a few. "The truth is out there". haha Find it yourself. The rest of already know by paying attention for years and decades.
ReplyDeleteWhat you fail to grasp is that those of us who know the story are believed by those who know the players. Again it’s all been verbal evidence so you will just have to remain a denier. That’s cool.
DeleteRecording a phone call without the other person’s knowledge is illegal. Try to keep up.
Delete10:17 Illegality hasn't stopped you from doing many other things. You admitted you have no proof of your BS claims.
Delete7:05 None of the candidates publicly supported each other:
ReplyDeleteEven though Jeff’s shoot at the hip style is not as polished as some may like, it didn’t bother Julie because she knows Jeff is a genuine good person, and would be tough on crime and on people trying to destroy Encinitas. She also knew that although Cindy appears more polished, she’s not sincere, and would not be able to handle people like Marco. On a personal level Julie supported Jeff b/c he’s authentic. Whereas Cindy is not.
Julie also knew Cindy’s underhanded personality would not be equipped to handle people like Mali. She would probably just scream and get in a cat fight like she did with Leah, Bhvanni, etc. The people that know Cindy well, and stuck with her, are aware of her behavior and have seen her manipulative ways in action. But they supported her b/c they too, are manipulative. Good decent people like Bhavani and Leah detracted, when they saw behind the curtain of the Cremona Club.
Ehlers not wanting to lose Jeff or Cindy votes, stayed clear of the mean girl b.s.
Bruce talking to Julie was relatively safe b/c anyone voting for Bruce would most likely not be voting for Joy Lyndes.
OMG. Have you ever got it twisted, sister.
Delete1:52 is a denier that’s cool, whatever.
ReplyDeleteHey, the gullible warming crowd thinks they can make it with no oil from the earth. I'd like to know how their parents, who are brother and sister, are going to have sex with no
ReplyDeletepetroleum jelly.
Keep up creep, we’re discussing the Thunder/Kranz/Walsh pact, not the weather. Sheesh.
DeleteThere was no Thunder/Kranz/Walsh pact.
DeleteYou would've had to get out of the house once in a while to realize what became obvious to many watchers of the campaign operators who pulled this stunt of a run off. It was obvious at a couple of the debates just how friendly certain candidates were with certain operators. You can deny all you want and you will remain clueless by your own choice to not attend the public debates and see for yourself how chummy these few were. It worked for them. For our community, not so much. Maybe next time. Over and out and done with you and your denials of what many saw for themselves who watched closely the debates and the public who took the time to attend in person. Watching a broadcast of the debates missed so much of the interactions of certain operators. I was watching the audience more than the candidates for a good reason. The camera was focused, as it should have been, on the candidates. There was so much more going on than what was up on the stage. You have no clue and I am not going to elaborate for you. Next time, try getting out of your house and see for yourself. The real show was in the peanut gallery.
ReplyDeleteThere's one big problem with your rant and conclusions: You're wrong.
DeleteOnly one big problem? Do tell.
ReplyDeleteBeing wrong covers them all.
DeleteGood to hear you took the time to attend the debates in person and not stay home and watch the broadcasts. If indeed true, you had an excellent opportunity to see for yourself the relationships between certain candidates and certain actors.
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