Wednesday, August 23, 2017

8/16/17 City Council meeting open thread

Please use the comments to record your observations.

18 comments:

  1. Anything they do will be against the people, resist.

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  2. Isn't the taxman charming?

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  3. They spent way too much time in their closed session. This is not open government. What decisions will they decide in secret?

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  4. Blakespear's report on the closed session was that the council discussed district elections.

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    1. Slicing up the districts to get re-elected.
      The fix is in.
      Resist.

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    2. Threat of lawsuit under state law. At least one other city resisted and lost millions.

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  5. That gal named Sapphire who got up and spoke in favor of commercial pot cultivation seemed pretty baked; didn't do much to dispel the notion that it is just a bunch of stoners who are pushing for this.

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    1. Is this some sort of quasi-moralistic high road superiority complex you're promoting? The electorate has spoken - pot has gone recreational. The gross misconceptions of the evil weed have died off with the "Reefer Madness" generation, but there are obviously some hold-outs. Did you know that it was mainly the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies that funded the political opposition to legalization? The city doesn't seem to take exception to allowing a proliferation of booze joints in town for the tax revenue; how is the sale of pot intrinsically different? A good portion of fatal traffic accidents involve drinking; I haven't seen them hauling Cheech's body out of any wrecks recently.
      So get over it and best your tambourine somewhere else.

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    2. There is a difference between personal cultivation and use and large scale commercial cultivation and manufacturing. You can be in favor of personal cultivation and use but against large scale commercial production in your town. That is the issue. The pro-pot people are putting forth an emotional argument (access for medical purposes) that is really just a scam.

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    3. A lot of conservative commercial growers are promoting it - money is the issue here. What is the "down-side" to large scale commercial production - the pot boogeyman? It should be allowed, but regulated.

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    4. MJ is still illegal, per Federal law, and it's a cash crop. Baggies of weed turn into bags of cash that banks shun. Similar to prohibition there are lots of opportunities for crime groups, and product will leak into the neighborhoods in spite of growers with shotguns. It also takes a lot of water and could better be grown near the headwaters rather then at the south end of the pipeline.

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    5. Comedy. "Takes a lot of water." People grow these plants in their closets for heaven's sake. They will not be planted in dry hard orange earth of Encinitas.

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  6. 2:38pm The one grower in Encinitas who had the courage to propose using 10% of his property, if even that much, for weed. He addressed every single concern that these reefer madness folks bring up every week.

    The smell, the runoff, the pesticides, security? Give me a break . Ecter covered all of those and showed how responsible his very limited operation would be.

    The root of the real issue with allowing this grower to use a small fractional part of his operation is the lack parenting these days.

    The kids of these irrational people are laughing behind their backs, just as we continue to laugh at the 80 year old movie Reefer Madness. Kids know better. Parenting, the lack thereof, is the biggest problem.

    Nobody wants to encourage kids to partake. Adult use is the intent of the law and the overwhelming support it got in the election. The stupid use of vaping is directed toward kids. Where is the outcry for that? Vapings lies about getting people off of tobacco, is a lie. They entice more kids to take up smoking than anyone, with the stupid flavors and who knows what else is put into these created substances.

    Parenting, do it. Don't blame legal adult use. It is your job to parent your kids. The freedom granted to kids these days is abandonment and dereliction of your duty.



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  7. Stop trying to tell neighbors what they can grow and mind your own business.

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    1. And the world would be a better place!

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  8. 4:28 PM Cannabis does NOT take a lot of water to grow outside. A complete myth. The days of teenagers roaming yards to steal plants is over. They're all into pills or heroin now, and when of age, simply go to downtown Encinitas a booze it up.

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    1. That's hilarious (in an odd sort of way). The metamorphosis of the Millennials - from opioids to booze. Parents will wish the kid was only smoking pot now! Pot is now the benign herb, telling the kiddies to mellow out!

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