This is why I do not want early release non-violent offenders living in our community. Because they are in fact violent. If I recorded and reported every suspicious vehicle and leering man in my neighborhood these days nothing else would get done.
By the way, good community policing on this case but a lot of people here are using it to harass and seek vengeance on a lot of innocent people also, aka extrajudicial or social justice.
5:01 PM You are all over the place. If you see something then report it! I haven't seen any innocent people being harassed as you claim. Facts, please.
2:54 - ok, I get it and I guess that all other readers of this blog understand that you have serious hard-on for The Governor. Can you now please stop with your lashing out at him even when the discussion is unrelated? Your continuance is confirmation of your stupidity or troll-man, unthinking person. When is the last time that you considered an event or circumstance with a clear mind?
2:54pm. You are an idiot. Those being let out are nonviolent offenders. Can you tell the difference?
Many of those should have never been interned in the first place, and should've been treated and counseled, rather than thrown in the slammer.
The prison for profit industry is a travesty and should have never been allowed to exist. They have made our nation the highest incarcerated on the planet. Now that is not a distinction to be proud of.
These two idiots are not, and would not be qualified to be let go, because their crime was violent in nature. I hope this helps you to know the difference between non violent criminals who deserve consideration, and those who do not.
Your governor Jerry " head idiot, king of the govt test suckers" release a violent gang member that killed two people in less than 24 hours. Yeah YOUR governor is a real peach!! The complete winner, how about you house one of his nonviolent offenders in your home?? Won't do it will you?? No, I didn't think so.
Jerry Brown pushed AB 109 ("prison realignment") which resulted in this guy being out on the street. He also pushed Props 47 & 57 which were sold as being only for non-violent offenders but ended up including some violent criminals.
9:20- Any politician that knowingly and willingly releases dangerous criminals onto the streets is as guilty as the criminal that commits new dangerous felonies. ie, Jerry " Moonbeam" Brown pulled the trigger that killed that cop,ask any law enforcement officer they all agree.
"On 23 May 2011 the US Supreme Court upheld an order by a three-judge federal court requiring the state of California to reduce its state prison population to no more than 137.5% of its design capacity within two years. Prior to the initiative the state's prison population had risen to roughly 180% of its design capacity, and prisoners had become unable to receive routine medical or mental health care. In response, the governor and the state legislature passed two bills, Assembly Bill 109 and Assembly Bill 117, which became law and went into effect on 1 October 2011. Under these laws, new non-violent, non-serious, and non-sexual offenders with sentences of longer than one year would be housed in county jail facilities rather than state prisons (existing prisoners falling in those categories would not be relocated). Also, inmates released from such facilities would be placed on county-directed supervision rather than state parole. The laws also provided new funding for county facilities for the management of this increased in population."
Jerry Brown had the choice to tell the Supreme Court to stuff it!! But he choose to roll over and play dead. He should have gone to prison to protect the citizens of California, but instead he agreed ( it wasn't hard was it?? I don't remember much arm twisting). Thousands of crimes have occurred since that time and untold number of murders.
And no I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm a believer in law and order. Law and order has no political preference.
What is the difference between county-directed supervision and state parole? Our own SDSD Captain even admitted at a CC meeting the rate of recidivism is very high. Non-violent doesn't mean they aren't a menace to your community and attract more crime.
I don't think Jerry Brown could have "told the Supreme court to stuff it," but the solution didn't have to require putting violent criminals out on the street.
Three of the most significant problems with the reforms:
1) "Violent felonies" was narrowly defined as a specific list that excluded a lot of violent felonies (link).
2) Some of the reforms define "violent felon" only by the most recent crime, so somebody with a very long and violent history can get out of prison early if the last crime was non-violent.
3) When you kick people down from the state prison system to county jails, parole violations are no longer taken seriously. They go to jail for a few days instead of going back to prison for the remainder of their terms. That's what happened to cop-killer Mejia, who had five separate parole violations in a short period and only went to jail for a few days each time (link).
They can use the reverse Sadie Hawkins defense! This is how them yungens git thar womin in der back hills o' Escondider!
ReplyDeleteThe title of your post is an insult to the comedic genius of Beavis and Butthead.
ReplyDeleteI am offended. (fire,fire).
This is why I do not want early release non-violent offenders living in our community. Because they are in fact violent. If I recorded and reported every suspicious vehicle and leering man in my neighborhood these days nothing else would get done.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, good community policing on this case but a lot of people here are using it to harass and seek vengeance on a lot of innocent people also, aka extrajudicial or social justice.
5:01 PM You are all over the place. If you see something then report it! I haven't seen any innocent people being harassed as you claim. Facts, please.
ReplyDeleteThrow the book at them and let them feel the results of their dismal actions.
ReplyDeleteThis type of behavior is the worst humanity has to offer.
They are facing up to 9 years in prison. I suspect they'll get 5 years, having no prior criminal records. They'll spend no more than 3.
ReplyDeleteJerry brown will let them go free, shortly after they agree to support his campaign for shorter sentences for criminals.
ReplyDelete2:54 - ok, I get it and I guess that all other readers of this blog understand that you have serious hard-on for The Governor. Can you now please stop with your lashing out at him even when the discussion is unrelated? Your continuance is confirmation of your stupidity or troll-man, unthinking person. When is the last time that you considered an event or circumstance with a clear mind?
Delete2:54pm. You are an idiot. Those being let out are nonviolent offenders. Can you tell the difference?
ReplyDeleteMany of those should have never been interned in the first place, and should've been treated and counseled, rather than thrown in the slammer.
The prison for profit industry is a travesty and should have never been allowed to exist. They have made our nation the highest incarcerated on the planet. Now that is not a distinction to be proud of.
These two idiots are not, and would not be qualified to be let go, because their crime was violent in nature. I hope this helps you to know the difference between non violent criminals who deserve consideration, and those who do not.
It's not only nonviolent offenders that are being let out:
Deletehttp://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/20/2-officers-man-hit-by-gunfire-during-whittier-shooting/
Your governor Jerry " head idiot, king of the govt test suckers" release a violent gang member that killed two people in less than 24 hours. Yeah YOUR governor is a real peach!! The complete winner, how about you house one of his nonviolent offenders in your home?? Won't do it will you?? No, I didn't think so.
DeleteWeren't these early releases court ordered? I don't think it matters who the governor is - they have to obey the court.
DeleteJerry Brown pushed AB 109 ("prison realignment") which resulted in this guy being out on the street. He also pushed Props 47 & 57 which were sold as being only for non-violent offenders but ended up including some violent criminals.
Delete9:20- Any politician that knowingly and willingly releases dangerous criminals onto the streets is as guilty as the criminal that commits new dangerous felonies. ie, Jerry " Moonbeam" Brown pulled the trigger that killed that cop,ask any law enforcement officer they all agree.
Delete11:48 must be a Trump voter. The ignorance, stupidity and bias are all there.
DeleteA lot of the prison realignment was a reaction to a Supreme Court Decision ordering California to reduce prison overcrowding:
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Safety_Realignment_initiative
"On 23 May 2011 the US Supreme Court upheld an order by a three-judge federal court requiring the state of California to reduce its state prison population to no more than 137.5% of its design capacity within two years. Prior to the initiative the state's prison population had risen to roughly 180% of its design capacity, and prisoners had become unable to receive routine medical or mental health care. In response, the governor and the state legislature passed two bills, Assembly Bill 109 and Assembly Bill 117, which became law and went into effect on 1 October 2011. Under these laws, new non-violent, non-serious, and non-sexual offenders with sentences of longer than one year would be housed in county jail facilities rather than state prisons (existing prisoners falling in those categories would not be relocated). Also, inmates released from such facilities would be placed on county-directed supervision rather than state parole. The laws also provided new funding for county facilities for the management of this increased in population."
If you want to use facts and reality, brother you are in the wrong place.
DeleteJerry Brown had the choice to tell the Supreme Court to stuff it!! But he choose to roll over and play dead. He should have gone to prison to protect the citizens of California, but instead he agreed ( it wasn't hard was it?? I don't remember much arm twisting). Thousands of crimes have occurred since that time and untold number of murders.
DeleteAnd no I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm a believer in law and order. Law and order has no political preference.
What is the difference between county-directed supervision and state parole? Our own SDSD Captain even admitted at a CC meeting the rate of recidivism is very high. Non-violent doesn't mean they aren't a menace to your community and attract more crime.
Delete". . . tell the Supreme Court to stuff it!!"
Delete"I'm a believer in law and order."
Anyone notice anything unusual or noteworthy about those two statements? Anyone?
Show the stats and their sources, 10:30.
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Delete1st link is the wrong one.
DeleteOops thanks. Corrected:
DeleteI don't think Jerry Brown could have "told the Supreme court to stuff it," but the solution didn't have to require putting violent criminals out on the street.
Three of the most significant problems with the reforms:
1) "Violent felonies" was narrowly defined as a specific list that excluded a lot of violent felonies (link).
2) Some of the reforms define "violent felon" only by the most recent crime, so somebody with a very long and violent history can get out of prison early if the last crime was non-violent.
3) When you kick people down from the state prison system to county jails, parole violations are no longer taken seriously. They go to jail for a few days instead of going back to prison for the remainder of their terms. That's what happened to cop-killer Mejia, who had five separate parole violations in a short period and only went to jail for a few days each time (link).
Let them work off their sentences on a road crew in Death Valley (in the Summer).
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