David Meyer proposes 48-house development on Batiquitos Lagoon
Thursday's
Planning Commission meeting:
8A. PROJECT NAME: La Cost 48; CASE NUMBER: 15-222 TMDB/DR/EIR/CDP; FILING DATE: August 24, 2015; APPLICANT: DCM Properties, Inc. - David Meyer; LOCATION: 510 - 514 La Costa Avenue (APN: 216-030-10, 45 & 46; ZONING/OVERLAY: The subject property is located in the Residential 3 (R3) Zone, the Coastal Zone, Hillside/Inland Bluff Overlay Zone and the Scenic/Visual Corridor Overlay Zone of the City of Encinitas; PROJECT DESCRIPTION: Continued Planning Commission deliberation from February 7, 2019 to consider a Tentative Map Density Bonus, Design Review Permit, and Coastal Development Permit to create a total of 48 lots (44 market rate and 4 very low affordable).
David Meyer proposes 48-house development within earshot of the I-5 freeway.
ReplyDeleteWho wants a low-income development next to endangered nesting birds, congestion of traffic, the site document says it will not restore the habitat and area in which it will develop on.More run-off and pollution into the lagoon and ocean from car washing. As a Carlsbad resident I and, and many others and the city will sue the shit out of hippy ass Encinitas.
DeleteWho the hell wants to live cramped in next to a freeway with no parking or public transportation.
ReplyDeleteBuild it and find out.
Deleteperhaps data would be useful. How big is the total property, and what is the average lot size?
ReplyDelete8:39 Find it at the Planning Commission link below the headline up top.
ReplyDeleteAvg lot size: 12650.6 sq ft = a square 112.5 ft on each side = 0.29 acre.
DeleteAverage is meaningless. Take a look at the tentative map. There are a few large lots and many tiny ones. With all of the variances granted to density bonus projects (48 instead of 28 houses) most of the houses will be crammed in like sardines.
DeleteGrab some coffee. It's 3500 pages of snow job.
Delete"Take a look at the tentative map." How about posting the URL?
DeleteIs this it?
https://encinitas.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2220&meta_id=96378
They should be thankful its not 3 stories like want our current City Council is pushing.
ReplyDeleteVote in all new City Council and Mayor, ours suck.
Mosca and Hubbard have their seats through 2022.
DeleteMight as well be 3 stories. Density bonus allows them to measure height from the finished grade, so they'll pile up dirt and then put their 2 story McMansions on top.
DeleteThe former greenhouse property is contaminated with toxaphene, the same pesticide that forced the city to bury the contaminated soil on the Hall property park and forced the city to pay a $420,000 fine when illegal discharges of water during construction went down Rossini Creek into the San Elijo Lagoon.
ReplyDeleteMeyer isn't a builder. He only pushes the project through the Planning Commission, then sells it to a builder. On his Nantucket and Channel Islands projects the affordable housing units were eventually built off site. He claims credit for the Density Bonus Law.
If he doesn't get what he wants from the Planning Commission, he will appeal to the City Council and win. He has strong influence on council members, especially Kranz, who went to schcol with Meyer's wife.
How do you know? Link to soils report please.
DeleteWhat, 10:11? You can't find it yourself?
DeletePrior to and during grading and excavation activities, the OCP-impacted soil above the RSL-R for toxaphene shall be excavated and stockpiled on-site. The estimated area and depth of toxaphene-impacted soils requiring removal on the property are depicted in Figure 4 of the Property Mitigation Plan (PMP) (see Appendix 3.6b). Subsequent to excavation of the OCP-impacted soil, the soil encapsulation areas depicted in Figure 5 of the PCP shall be excavated with a 1:1 slope 7 feet outside of the building footprint down to approximately 7 feet below ground surface (bgs) with a 4-foot vertical wall to the depth of burial. Soils removed below the building footprint shall be stockpiled on-site for reuse as capping
material. Once the excavation has reached the desired depth (anticipated to be 11 feet below the existing grade), the burial area shall be surveyed by the project land surveyor. Figures 2.0-3i and Figure 2.03j show the approximate burial locations. The OCP-impacted soil shall then be placed in the base of the excavation and mechanically compacted to obtain a minimum relative compaction of 90 percent of the laboratory standard. The impacted soil shall be placed up to a depth not less than 7 feet below the designed finish grade of the building pads after remedial grading and import fill has been graded into the site. No OCPimpacted soil shall be placed beneath the planned backyards, roadways, or city easements.
Following the placement of the OCP-impacted soil at the base of the excavation, a geotextile fabric or similar material shall be placed over the impacted fill. The project land surveyor shall then survey the location of the OCP-impacted fill to ensure that 7 feet of clean fill encapsulates the impacted soils prior to placing clean, compacted fill to finished grade.
Take a look at https://encinitas.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2220&meta_id=96382
DeleteAll of the toxic soil is being buried under the affordable and lower cost houses in the SE corner.
Caveat Emptor!
That diagram shows toxic soil buried under 14 lots. Four of the 48 houses are designated as affordable per density bonus.
Delete3:42 - wow - one needs a backhoe to move the load of crap you're dropping...If the soil is contaminated, which you apparently believe it is, the location is a brown-field site and needs to be corrected ----------- not buried on site! Maybe you've heard of Love Cannel? This kind of site can be managed in a responsible way but that is not hiding the toxins on site - it is removing or remediating them!
DeleteThe builder should be made to remove or mitigate the toxic waste. Removing would be hugely expensive and the builder, as an Encinitas insider probably is willing to bet that the city will be complicit in creating, god-knows what kind of deformed / impaired children and ok with the just-bury-it brilliance.
Mitigation is also tremendously expensive but that is the only way to "clean" the soil without trucking it away as toxic waste. Bring in a kiln and incinerate the dirt - like other entities are made to do when managing brown field sites. Bury the toxic waste in what is planned to be a residential area? Good god - that is stupid... and evil.
7:48 Are you a registered moron? 3:42's post is a quote from the project EIR. The same kind of toxic soil is buried under the Community Park, which is the former Hall property where they grew flowers for decades.
Delete7:48 is rite..all da stuff dats put on bugs is da same. It was ok by dat udder place so it good by da lagoon. Maybe it should be dumped in da laGoon. 7:48 smart - you shud lissen.
DeleteDo any other cities, counties, states require such soils to be removed or mitigated differently? Are there any scientific studies that show that burial is a risk to people living above?
DeleteIt’s pretty clear that burying the contaminated soils is legal here. So if you are going to have any impact at all, then you’d need to make a case that the law is out of step with standards set by other communities or with current science.
Until I see that case made convincingly, then this is nothing but ineffective whining and the project will go through. Are you just making noise because you are against all development, or do you have a serious health concern based on science?
9:53 How about you show it's harmless?
DeleteOkay.
DeleteThey buried similar soil at the park years ago—no problems reported.
Your turn. Show it’s a problem.
Would children with all sorts of birth defects be acceptable to you 4:37?
DeleteYou and your "similar soil" science.
You sir - are the moron here
4:37 To show your faith, buy and live in one of the houses that will be built atop the buried poisonous soil.
DeleteNaw. I probably couldn’t afford it. But good on the folks who can. If I had the money and the homes fit what I was looking for, I wouldn’t let the buried soils from a greenhouse deter me without some science.
DeleteDuring the drought years, I’m pretty sure that every house within a half mile of that site got more exposure to those soils via wind blown dust than the new residents will ever get with them seven and a half feet underground under a barrier.
7:19,
DeleteWhat birth defects? CA has a long history of building on former greenhouse land.
If the soils caused birth defects, surely we’d know by now. Good luck finding it in peer reviewed medical journals.
7:19 - here is a start for you:
Deletehttps://afop.org/health-safety/pesticide-safety/pregnancy-pesticide/
You obviously have no knowledge of science or empirical arguments.
Troll on bud
7:46 AM (3/12)
DeleteI guess it sounds more dramatic to say "the same pesticide that forced the city to bury the contaminated soil on the Hall property park ..." but finding contaminated soil from pesticides on former greenhouse property is not unexpected. Mitigating contaminated soil is overseen by the county Departmant of Environmental Heath and there are two ways to handle it, remove and export it or bury it. The choice is up to the developer, although pesticides that might migrate down into the water table are usually exported. "... and forced the city to pay a $420,000 fine when illegal discharges of water during construction went down Rossini Creek into the San Elijo Lagoon", the pesticides were buried before the spills and didn't factor into the fines.
7:25 PM
While any exposure might entail some risk, that site is addressed to farmworkers who are in the fields and in possible direct contact with the pesticides settled on the ground, in the air, and on the plants. During grading when the contaminated soils are being dug up, buried or loaded on trucks and carried off-site there is always the potential for fugitive dust (I love this description like it's fleeing) so steps must be taken to prevent that from happening. I know there were complaints on some sites that this wasn't done very well.
Looks like there are 2 other projects - on off Leucadia Blvd east of 5, and another on Birmingham and Lake. That one is a density bonus project. The Leuc project is also on a greenhouse property. So why no attention or discussion on those but plenty on this one?
ReplyDeleteHere we go again. "you people" making all of the assumptions about parking/transportation etc. Have you any concept how much land is selling for?, or, are you still living in the '60's with your beads, stringy greasy gray and sandals?
ReplyDeleteIt isn't your property. I suppose you want three story low income ghetto housing.........gawd what a bunch of fools
I don't know this guy nor do I know anyone connecting with this property. You people need get into 2019 or continue on your crazy train......your choice.
8:47 AM There are environmental and aesthetic considerations, considering the location. Your attitude of winner take all is typical of the greedy sector.
DeleteHow much did DM pay 8:47 to spew? Waaay too overexcited not to be on the payroll, just sayin'.
Delete10:17......you don't think the city makes the builder do environmental??? Are you mental? And, apparently you haven't seen the hippie ghettos and those two stupid boat houses in downtown Encinitas.........aesthetics....please.
DeleteThere are so many dumps around there new homes would be refreshing.
11:50 Apparently you can't read. I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE.
To the both of you.......It's their property...not yours.
Why don't you two worry about the mayor believing in the lie of "man made gullible warming" and the bums.
I'm not greedy....I'm a realist. If no one buys the houses then the builder goes broke. I couldn't care less.
1:37 You're not a realist. You're a willful ignoramus.
Delete1:37 PM If one did a realistic environmental accomodation, there would be a buffer zone from the lagoon. 48 houses in close proximity would not factor in. You mock the boat houses - your insensitivity towards historical preservation is appalling, showing a total disregard towards a city's uniqueness. Build the tacky clap-traps and they will come - your brain has been exposed to too many asphalt fumes. Probably on DM's payroll.
DeleteLess than 10% affordable units...way to help solve the housing crisis.
ReplyDeleteLet's put the three story low life low income housing next door to you
Delete12:51 here...there is no solution to the housing crisis. It's expensive to live her, and people who can't afford it shouldn't live here. The idea that everyone who works in Encinitas deserves to live here is idealistic and inane. The point of my post was the city council keeps saying they want to solve the housing crisis, yet still approve (directly or via the planning commission) nonsolvent projects like these.
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