Saturday, August 23, 2014

Community character has absolutely nothing to do with high-density development

Council Member Lisa Shaffer in the Encinitas Advocate:
Campaign season is upon us and I guarantee you will hear the words “community character” often. Take a breath and think about what that really means.

To me, Encinitas community character is about kindness, integrity, and open minds. We are a center of healing arts practitioners. We are an outdoor destination. We have a community full of wonderful, well-educated, interesting, creative, innovative people. The community character I support is treating each other with compassion and contributing positive energy to this amazing city we are privileged to live in.
Pay no attention to what they're doing to our city. Just remember they are nice people.

Woulda been kinda nice for Shaffer to tell us her definition of "community character" before we elected her to city council.

208 comments:

  1. Shaffer can sing "Somewhere under the Rainbow" as her resume of 4 years on the Council.

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    1. For all of you out there foaming at the mouth about the one-time plastic bag encasing this week's Advocate: this was in response to the rain that occurred. The weather forecast was for more rain, so being a business, the publisher protected the product so the news and ads were distributed in a manner that protected from the elements.

      On another note: Lisa has repeatedly advocated against First Amendment rights of those who speak before her, write to her on line, distribute newspapers like they have for 150 years throughout Encinitas: such point headed elitist arrogance would be laugh out loud ridiculous if Lisa wasn't in a position to put in charge of a city she truly doesn't know, nor apparently like, by getting her candidate/clone elected in November.

      When third world countries stop the freedom of the press its about ideas and 'freedom', Lisa just thinks its 'yukky' or 'messy' and man, does she believe she knows better than anyone.

      Unless there is rain, which there won't be much, you won't see the plastic bags again anytime soon. And, a real patriot wouldn't be counting plastic bags in the gutter, he/she would be helping the neighbors by taking time out to flip the 'misses' onto the drive ways: instead of just whining, as usual.

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    2. Litter is not a First Amendment Right. In fact it can carry a $1000 fine. Still, no one thanks God that religious groups don't hide behind the constitution and say it's cool to throw what they think we need to know on our driveways. They obviously could. Shrinkwrapped In 700 languages.

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  2. My friends and I who supported Lisa are so disappointed. We'll NEVER trust her again with our vote!

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  3. This is the second time she has used the word "compassion" recently. That word is not a platitude to toss around, but requires action. If she really wants to be seen as a compassionate person, she should model it for others. She could vote to help the Marrs or show some act of forgiveness and humility so that others can save face and move forward to become better people themselves.

    Words are words, and a word like 'compassion' has to be demonstrated, not bantered about like she has actual experience with the concept herself. I don't know of anyone who describes Lisa with the term that she has been using so much lately. I would like to see her move from a theoretical discussion to the application of compassion. Don't talk--demonstrate!

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    1. She is an academic - no action required.

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    2. What's strange is that when Lynn Marr uses a word, as in Council can be creative and resolve the issues with compassion, kindness and integrity, Lisa incorporated that word, "compassion," as more marketing lingo, pushing an appearance without substance behind it.

      Lynn Marr also has long signed most of her correspondence "Gratefully," before Lisa Shaffer ever had a newsletter. Of course that word is not trademarked, but it's another coincidence, that Shaffer always signs her newsletters, now, "With gratitude."

      Gratitude is great. Co-opting someone's words or style for effect, without being genuine, is not.

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    3. Nothing wrong with being an academic. Just Lisa on her words, deeds and action, not her current or former profession.

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  4. I wonder if Lisa knows what the word compassion really means? I have seen her C.V. and it is impressive. However, nothing in it requires her to be compassionate. The big question is "Can she do it?" Only time will tell.

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  5. The greatest popular song ever written. Harold Arlen and Yip Harburg. It's about hope, which, regardless of what happens, springs eternal.

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  6. The poor woman is getting increasingly arrogant, condescending and holier-than-thou.

    There's a huge gulf between her words and her actions.

    As Sheila Cameron has said, "Lisa just doesn't get Encinitas."

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    1. I wonder if Lisa Shaffer knows what cognitive dissonance means?

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  7. If the Marrs expect anything from Shaffer, good luck with that theory. Lynn has stood up at just about every council meeting and put her down. I don't think Lisa will be doing any favors for Lynn and her husband.

    Shaffer should think again about what community character is all about. She is "over the top" and has come to the point of delusional.

    Hey Shaffer ---- any one home?

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  8. Shaffer talks negative about everyone behind their back. She is very unethical! She dislike Shelia Cameron and Pam Slater-Price the most.

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    1. Shaffer has plenty negative to say behind the face of ethics she wants everyone to see and believe.

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    1. In her newletter after the August 20 Council Meeting, under "Compassion and the Law," LIsa Shaffer states:

      "I wish Lynn was [sic] not dealing with health issues. I appreciate Russell's military service. And I believe that there have been inequities in how our ordinances have been enforced. None of that has any relevance to the situation, in my opinion. The Council does not have the authority to overturn court rulings based on who we like, or who is struggling, or the fact that someone else is violating the law. We are not judges or juries. Dropping the lien without some "consideration" could amount to a gift of public funds, which would be illegal."

      That's not compassionate, nor gramtically correct, teacher. Subjunctive case, remember? I wish Lynn were not dealing with health issues. But more than that, Shaffer is regurgitating back Sabine's briefing about gifting of public funds, which is not pertinent to the case at hand. Lisa Shaffer is admitting, publically, as a Council Member, that there has been selective, discriminatory enforcement of the City's ordinances. She calls for compassion in her title, but it's pretense. She says the inequities and compassion are "irrelevant." Selective enforcement opens the city up to a "colorable claim of action."

      This is another clear case of situational ethics. Current council is accountable for the renewal of a judgment that should be found to be void. Glenn Sabine did not mention gifting of public funds in his report before Council on 8/20. He probably felt he didn't need to because he had already briefed them all on that subject.

      However, all the cases are extremely different and unrelated to the Marrs' case. Shaffer should have checked into it, and not just read some titles of cases provided by Sabine as "damage control" for not noticing Council of the renewal, the interest or the additional $15K paid to Rutan and Tucker.

      As the Coast News article suggested, it was a Kangaroo Court decision. In the Nuremberg Trials, the Nazi soldiers were held accountable. That someone is "following orders, or following the advice of a known liar, in Sabine's case, isn't any excuse.

      Remember all the lies Sabine wrote in the sample ballot for his NOT impartial analysis? None of those were true, but Council wanted to believe the lies. They wanted to believe the speculation and conjecture of Rutan and Tucker, which Sabine escalated into outright falsehoods. His partner lies to the judges, used his opinion as "testimony" in ex parte communication, when the other party wasn't present, to defame and prejudice the court against the Marrs.

      Sabine did say on 8/20, "Council can do anything it wants." There would be no liability for gifting of public funds for forgiveness of an inequitable award of costs and fees.

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    2. Someone mentioned Ecke's land holding corporation owing the city a large sum? If true, how'd that drop off the books?
      Who run Barter Town? Pretty obvious....

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    3. 9:32,

      ERGA, the joint venture between the city and Carltas to run the golf course, apparently illegally forgave a bunch of money that Carltas owed under the development agreement.

      See here: http://encinitasundercover.blogspot.com/2013/10/encinitas-ranch-golf-course-scandal.html

      Unfortunately, Shaffer and Kranz wrote a superficial report that completely glossed over this whole issue.

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    4. And Kranz knew better, but he let his personal ties to the Eckes get in the way of doing the right thing. Just one more reason not to encourage him by electing him mayor. If he feels self-important and a member of the insiders club now...just wait.

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    5. My mom used to say "if wishes were horses we would all be riding". Fuck you Lisa and the horse you rode in on. No, the horse is OK, you leave and leave the horse with Sculpin.

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  10. 10:14-

    Do you mean crazy Cameron? Oh I remember those days.


    Might as well elect brain dead Reagen

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    1. 12:39 needs some fresh air...step outside, it'll do wonders for you.

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    2. Reagan is spelled this way, speaking of brain dead....

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    3. Speaking of Brain Dead. To bad we didn't have video of Crazy Cameron back in the day. I remember her T-ing off on all kinds of minor stuff. No wonder the remaining City Council voted her off the island. The only Councilperson to get voted off the mayor spot in our history. Classic.

      I know some people have a hard time controlling their emotions like folks with bi-polar disease.

      Maybe some people should NOT run for office again.

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    4. If it takes a person with balls to hold Vina and Sabine accountable for wasting our money then I am for it. I am voting for Cameron

      waht is the atlernative- a sackless Kranz and a compromied Gaspar who have wasted our money and lied to the public? no thank you

      bring on the Cameron and her set of Heuvos- TIme to get Gus out of office

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    5. maybe? but Cameron will be no better. She was in office and did nothing of significance. Time for a new direction. Alex and the engineer. The others are crazy and tainted.

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    6. Cameron is for our community. Look at the obscene development by Weidners nursery to understand needing someone like Cameron back in office.

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    7. Cameron's done plenty on the side of residents over recent years. Mikey/Jerome/lapdog can try all they want to stick a "crazy" name on Cameron, but it ain't gonna stick. No voter is interested in something Cameron got excited about how many years ago?? What counts are recent history and the here and now.

      You can be Alex's lone vote, if you like. Ask the engineer specific questions about Encinitas - not vague ones like "should we spend our money wisely?" - and you'll get nothing. Where's he been the past few years?

      Give me someone any day who's doing something now (Graboi, Cameron) over the ones who tell you what they're gonna do (Fakespear, the engineer, Alex).

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    8. 8:42 I can think of other mayors who were definitely not qualified to be in that spot or even on council. The ones that come to mind are Guerin, Dalagher, Stocks and Barth. We should have booted them out before their time was up. Total F'ups.

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    9. 8:42, Duh, Cameron is the reason why we do have meetings broadcasted and recorded. (Insignificant, 8:52?) If her videos are not in the archives, why not?. Certainly not her doing. I can tell you the "special meeting" that ousted her as mayor was not recorded. Pretty strategic. 50 people got up and spoke in favor of her remaining mayor, as a deaf majority of three voted her off (one of which left the dais twice, balling like a girl, another was a not so secret agent running for assembly and wanted the title "mayor" on his campaign literature, and a third was a DuVeloper who by nature was anathema to Cameron and called her a liar that night).
      And before you go spouting off who's brain dead, learn the difference between too and to.

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  11. The quality of life is definitely reduced by higher buildings and less sky, as well as by less space from more crowding. These are foundation environmental factors. To ignore these factors in Encinitas is at best not paying attention.

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  12. Shaffer, during her campaign, made a big deal of being an ethics teacher at UCSD. There is a famous saying that teachers teach what they need to learn!

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    1. Piety of Pompous Platitudes....she's losing it....

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  13. My fave...

    "It makes the whole election process feel yucky."

    -MGJ

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    1. I felt yucky when I read Lisa's paean to foolishness. It has to be the more bizarre definition of community character ever written. Her week in the pricey spa must have had some strange effect on her.

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  14. Hey I have an idea, lets start supporting council (new ones voted in soon!) and council starts doing the will of the citizens. Before you say a Unicorn walked by, let's give it a go.

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    1. I agree Alex and the engineer, the others are tainted.

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  15. Idiot Lisa by the Sea.

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  16. I have an honest question about how people feel about high density development and community character.

    It has to do with the historical ratio of single-family detached homes to other units like duplex, condo, or apartments.

    When I drive around town, I see many examples of older apartment buildings and multi-unit structures. I'm willing to bet that in the 1960's, these types of units made up a larger percentage of our total housing stock than they do today. Over time, the majority of new units have been single-family detached homes. So, over time, one could say that our community character has changed, with relatively fewer options for apartments, condos, and duplexes.

    I find it ironic that the virulent opposition to any high density development claims to be protecting community character, when in fact it is changing it toward a homogeneous gentrified suburb.

    I'm overstating the case, just for clarity's sake. The truth is, I'm conflicted. I don't want more traffic. I don't want less open space. I don't want our ag herritage to fade to black.

    My point is, I can see an intellectual consistency in wanting to limit all types of development generally. But I struggle with the selective outrage targeting just one flavor of housing development. Doesn't that actually change the demographic diversity of the local population over time, and thus, cause a fundamental change in community character?

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    1. 9:36 don't want our ag heriage to fade? that ship sailed along time ago, Fakespear and Kranz want to hoodwink the public with Barth and Shaffer's newsletters-

      Guess you wern't around for all the residents who stopped the density at the brown property, you also missed the hardwork of taxpayers who stopped the effort to rezone the perpetual open space of the Eckes- the list goes on and on-

      Residents passed Prop A because of abusive council trampling on resident quality of life-

      Shaffer and Barth hope they can bully people into not discussing community characther as a campaign issue- she does'nt fool me and she shouldn't fool you.

      Shaffer hopes to mislead people by claiming she doesn't support a tax increase when she does

      Shaffer hopes to bully into silence those with opposing views by calling them complainers and whiners- just like her good friend Jerome Stocks used to. Shaffer and Stocks, both ethically challenged , both bad for Encinitas, both one in the same

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    2. 9:36 I get it. You are running for city council and don't like Prop A.

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    3. Nope. Just trying to provoke some serious and thoughtful debate on a difficult but important matter--to challenge people to raise the level of discourse above the recycled oversimplifications that pass for public policy positions around here.

      Your post is a good example, actually.

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    4. If you are conflicted, then you are part of the problem.

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    5. 6:39 you reveal yourself not to seek discourse but rather to make excuses. If you actually had facts or an argument to make you would rebut the facts I present - that you don't means only that you can't.

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    6. The intellectual inconsistency is your claim you wish to live in a small town while promoting stack and pack density- the very thing that destroys small towns and turns them into urban transit villages-

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    7. 9;36 You want to raise the level of discourse, but the point you chose is based on your speculation: "I'm willing to bet that in the 1960's, these types of units made up a larger percentage of our total housing stock than they do today."

      Serious debates should be based on facts, not guesswork.

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    8. 11:07, that's actually a good point. That is an assumption, and it might be wrong.

      But does it matter?

      Would your opinion on high density development change based on the data? If I did the analysis, and proved that the mix of multi-unit vs. single family detached had shifted over the decades, would you agree that the shift represents a change in community character?

      Or would you simply move on to the next misdirection?

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    9. 6:38 Data- ? It has been proven the numbers SANDAG and the state have provided the public regrading population growth in Encinitas is a lie. Do you admit there is little current population growth in Encinitas or promote the SANDAG lie to push or stack and pack developer profit agenda?

      The numbers city staff used to promote the $80m dollars park that is near bankrupting the city is that the population of kids was growing- also turned out to be a lie, after the public had been hoodwinked- do you support liars who manipulate data?

      Would you agree our current general plan is there to protect the property rights of all, and not give aways to developres- I do. All your data would prove the current general plan works- residents love it! It is SANDAG, developers, and the lawyers who make money representing them that want increased density- not the residents. Why do you want to change it if everyone here likes it the way it is? What's in it for you?

      If development has fit within our current general plan why is that bad? I support our current general plan, don't you?

      Apparently you don't want to protect what we have but rather wish to "enhace" the developers profits by promoting new stack and pack that fits the model of SANDAG and our SANDAG representative Lisa the liar Shaffer- yucky.

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    10. 9:36 - The current general plan does not limit anything. It clearly spells out what development can take place. Residents in all 5 communities want to keep it.

      In your I know best arrogance claiming you claim the current GP limits development -it does not. The truth is the current general plan sets forth development guidelines residents want to keep, not change.

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    11. Well, apparently discussing issues and asking honest questions makes me evil. Since many here are willing to tell me what I believe, maybe I should clarify.

      I like Encinitas as it is.

      Encinitas has a mix of housing options, ranging from very low density horse property out in Olivenhein, to high density multi-story apartment buildings. Dirt is expensive around here, and not everyone can afford a single family detached home on a quarter acre.

      I believe our town historically has benefitted from demographic diversity. Eddie Vedder lived in Encinitas alone as a 15 year old kid working nights at a drug store while attending SDA. I'm not sure where he lived, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't able to buy a house. Paula Newby-Fraser came to Leucadia with $1000 to her name to become one of the greatest athletes of all time. It's not just the famous. Many of the people who contributed the most to our history and culture could not afford to come here today.

      I believe some population growth is unavoidable, although how much is certainly debatable. Even if it's a small amount, what kind of people do we want, and where do we want to put them?

      Personally, I would like to see what's left of the greenhouses to stay. Too much of our food is covered in chemicals, picked before it's ripe, and trucked here adding to traffic and pollution. I'm not for any more conversion of greenhouses to McMansions. I'd like to see more farm to table agreements between local businesses and growers.

      If we are going to avoid the bland affluent sameness of Orange County, we need to get serious about housing options that support a diverse population. Moonlight Lofts ain't it.

      I don't have all the answers, but I worry that the oversimplification of what defines "community character" has in intended consequences.

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    12. My BS meter's going off, too. Is that Blakespear floating her "ideas" and asking us to tell us what she should pretend to believe so she can get elected? Sure sounds that way to me.

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    13. 8:48- let the market decide, not everyone should/can live at the beach.

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    14. 11:06, valid argument. In fact, there's a big part of me that winces at the thought of social engineering. It can go very wrong, and I'm generally a free market guy.

      But what I keep coming back to is this: that the existing policies and market forces have been changing our community character over time. A decision NOT to support affordable housing results in social engineering in the other direction--toward gentrification. Maybe the current policies and market forces will turn Encinitas slowly into Orange County.

      Maybe that's unstoppable. Maybe that's what should happen.

      Again, I don't pretend to have all the answers.

      I know that Pacific Station is hated in these parts, and I certainly wouldn't choose to live there. I think it could have been designed a little smaller and better, without pushing the whole facade against the sidewalk.

      But, there are 47 households on that plot. If we accept that some population growth is going to happen, and that it's just a question of where, then that project accommodated the same number of households that would wipe out another 12 acres of greenhouse (or more) somewhere else in the city. Also, some of those units are 600 sq ft. No developer is building 600 sq/ft single family detached homes for an equivalent price.

      It doesn't excuse ugly and it's not an invitation to urbanize en masse. But I have to believe that a limited number of such projects isn't the end of the world, especially if we can create a legal and financial linkage from those few projects to protecting and supporting what's left of our local growers.

      Oh yeah, and I just checked my driver's license, and it turns out I'm not Catherine Blakespear. In fact, according to my DL I'm not even female. I'm also not in the real estate business of any sort. That last part isn't on my DL; I have it memorized.

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    15. So it sounds like you're new to the "conversation," as Vina would say. Is that it? These thoughts coming to you just now and you started wondering?

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    16. And if you "have to believe" that a "limited number" of unnecessary, high-density projects are "not the end of the world," just what business are you in?

      What's behind your idea to "create a legal and financial linkage from those few projects to protecting and supporting what's left of our local growers"?

      Your comments feel off. You are on a fishing expedition. Why don't you just state what you think should happen and take it from there. Again, something's off. You may be running for office, pushing an "innocent" project, who knows, but...not right.

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    17. 11:39 AM
      You are repeating the same old smart growth stack and pack rhetoric that's been around for the last 20 years. No matter how you try to package that baloney it's not going to sell. If you have the urge to stack and pack go to San Francisco. You can get a 100 square foot apartment there at more than market rate rents.

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    18. Listen to your arrogance- "what kind of people do we want and where should they live" It's not up to us to decide where people do or don't want to live or who does or doesn not move here.

      It's up to us to decide where we personally do and don't want to live.

      Your arrogance and lecturing is not an argument- numbers don't support yopur bogus population increase numbers. There exists now in Encinitas a stable mix of affordable housing and attainable rents. There exists now in Encinitas a mix of housing options each can choose based on their personal choice.

      You sound like Marco Gonzalez. Marco sued taxpayers at the Clevaland national forest to "stop sprawl"- Marco walked away with a huge checked paid for by taxpayers- what did taxpayers get- zero. Marco sued La Jolla over fireworks walking away with near $250,000 in taxpayer money- what did taxpayers get- zero.

      Marco once wrote the only way to save the Clevland Forest was to increase densities in Encintitas- when Marco was asked to share the acreage saving formula with Encinitas residents he could'nt. When Marco was asked to provide photos of the acreage that would be saved by increasing densities in Encinitas he could'nt.

      Not surprising to see Marco write a self seeking high density development op-ed and have Shaffer respond the following week with more lecturing and untruths. They both support Blakespear and her land holdings in Cardiff- as do you.

      You want to live downtown in stack and pack, but don't want to give up what you have here- your solution is to take from others to satisfy yourself.

      No one said you were evil- you did, playing the 'victim card' while hoping to demean the stronger arguments you can't refute-

      There are struggling people in Encinits today who will be the breakout successes of tommorrow. In fact this may come as news to you but for many of us myself included we struggled, saved, riskes and earned to have a slice of heaven we love and want to keep - not "enhance". Perhaps you were born into a land holding family like Blakespear and didn't have to make it on your own.

      Your concern of greenhouses is notable- maybe you might thank the residents of Fulvia, Balour and Oak Hills, along with Hymettus, the Brown property and others before them that fought to keep density low to protect the quality of life for all

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    19. 12:13,

      As to the legal and financial linkage, I don't really know, for sure, but as I see it, a huge problem with Smart Growth is that there is no linkage today. In theory, in-fill should offset the need for sprawl, bit does it? Who knows? Can anyone point to a piece of property that was protected from development because of Pacific Station? No. All we see is both in-fill AND greenhouses being replaced on Balour. That's a bad combination.

      Maybe we could create a special zone for "Agricultural Heritage Park" similar to what other cities do to encourage technology or biotech industries. Putting a property into the Ag Hertiage Park zone would be voluntary, and come with a package of tax incentives, opportunities for public events or tours, access to a network of local restaurant buyers or a co-op for distribution and sale of product--who knows. The public would also have some type of access--the property would become some extension of our open space and park lands. All of this gets funded by fees and taxes attached to smart growth projects, in a way that is revenue neutral to the City. So the City would no longer have a profit motive to approve so-called stack and pack development.

      If we had such a regime in place at the time of Pacific Station, we could all point to specific properties, and know that they were protected from development by the compromise we are all making as a community.

      Just shooting from the hip. I'm sure there are flaws and better ways to do it, but you get the idea.

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    20. 1:39 PM
      OMG. You're a shill for the Leichtag and Carltas groups.

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    21. 12:54 says: "There exists now in Encinitas a stable mix of affordable housing and attainable rents. There exists now in Encinitas a mix of housing options each can choose based on their personal choice."

      Then how do you explain Encinitas getting older, whiter, and shrinking number of people per household? All multi-decade trends. I would say over time fewer and fewer young people and young families with kids can find an affordable place here. I respect the opinion that we can't or shouldn't try to affect these trends--let's just embrace that the future population and community character will be very different. But you can't claim the trends are not happening.

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    22. 2:31 PM
      You're a shill for the Leichtag and Carltas groups.

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    23. Yep, shill all the way!!!

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    24. 2:32 you do see how ignorant and flawed your logic is-

      you admit the population is stable- after claiming it was exploding!

      you admit there is a shrinking number per household- proving the lies SANDAG told the public about increasing population and by the city council to build the hall park were lies!

      As for trends- the same good people that have sought to live here over the years are being replaced by other good people who are choosing to live here today-

      For your logic to be true it would mean population was increasing not stable, it would mean families were growing not stable, it would mean no one could afford to buy a house- when the truth is shawn white can buy his $5M love pad on the bluff and Mr,. 30 year old with 5 years of work behind them can buy a $350,000 condo east of the 5 as a starter home. There are million dollars homes on the coast affordable condo's and fixer uppers- there is no housing shortage and lots of properties for sales, average days on the market are 45-90, a healthy number. You have no facts!

      You sound like a person with a trust fund who has never worked a honest day work in their life-

      The only trend happening in Encinitas is a city council in bed with regionalists, developers and social engineers who want to dictate to the rest of who should live where and what kind of people should live there-

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    25. Easy with the pitchforks and torches, folks. I have been nothing but respectful and honest. Now I'm a shil, ignorant, flawed logic, trust fund baby who never worked a day in his life. There's no need to get your Caps Lock on.

      I know this is the internet, but most political movements want to attract, share, and win people over, not shut them down and call them names. I probably agree politically with more of you than you'd suspect. Is this space only open for a small group who think the same way, and can pass a purity test?

      Some of the arguments are a little out there. I'm not sure how to respond to the argument that Shawn White buying a home on Neptune proves we have housing affordability (or whatever the point was).

      One serious area of question: can someone explain (calmly) what the problem is with Leichtag? I don't work for them, never met anyone who does. But I'm surprised to hear the negative reaction. As I understand it, they have donated to the YMCA, the retirement home, the hospital--all worthy causes, no? And buying out the Eckes isn't a bad thing is it? They aren't trying to rezone it like the Eckes were are they (in perpetuity my arse)? What makes them bad guys?

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    26. Oh yeah, and 2:56 says "For your logic to be true it would mean population was increasing not stable, it would mean families were growing not stable, it would mean no one could afford to buy a house"

      1.) In the 133 years since Jabez Pitcher came to town, name one decade when the population did not increase. Population growth slows during recessions, but has never stopped or reversed.

      2.) Population can grow, while the average number of people per household shrinks. That's been the trend in Encinitas for about 30 years. New households have formed faster than the decline in household size.

      3.) Are you seriously saying that housing affordability only becomes a problem when zero people can buy a house? I guess that's one way to look at it.

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    27. 4:00 yes, Encinitas has a great housing market with many affordable properties based on each persons needs and choices.

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    28. who puts their CAPS on? no one

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    29. 1.) Look to the US Census - that SANDAG calls the "gold standard" for their 0% - 2% pop growth forecast.
      2.) Not sure what your point here is unless you're subscribing to the Barth/Shaffer "sustainability" stack n'pack model.
      3.) Let the market decide. When "affordable housing" is no longer a joke that developers play on residents, then we'll talk. It may be awhile.

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    30. TFB-

      Analogies and critical thinking are taught in school to the commoners-

      Shaun White in a $5M love pad is to demonstrate that if you are obscenely rich, born into money, creatively learn to earn money, start a business or blessed with freakish natural ability that you then cultivate and perfect with gajillions hours of hard work you can live on the bluff

      Likewise if you are a 30 year old who has been working hard for 5 years saving money, paying taxes, planning, maybe living with room mates, you can save a downpayment and afford a condo within 5-10 miles of the beach- and, people can choose to pay anything in between

      There is no housing shortage in Encinitas, there is no affordable housing problem in Encinitas

      There are simnply the developers, social engineers and regionalist that want to tell the rest of us what type of people and who should live where- you clearly are one of them

      Facts- the BIA representative and the social engineering Affordable Stack and Pack Housing person sat next to each other side by side during the council discussion on density bonus incentives- they are one in the same.

      Fact- Shaffer, Barth and Kranzx have voted exactly as Stocks would have and Gaspar and Muir did on stack and pack housing-

      they are one in the same

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    31. 4:29, I get your point.

      BTW, I followed the DB debate very closely. Council did the right thing, if a few years too late.

      I hate that social engineering tag, because I'm usually not defending this kind of manipulation of markets.

      Not trying to pick fights or cause a riot, just trying to resolve my own inner debate. I see a lot of stuff on "community character," and that phrase is usually a proxy for physical buildings. Personally, I think community character has as much to do with the demographics and variety of people, but maybe I'm in the minority on that. Or maybe people have just decides that it is unwise or impossible to influence those things, so they drop out of the conversation.

      Either way, we're all trying to define and protect what makes the city what it is. Hopefully we can agree on that.

      If anyone has an answer on the Leichtag Foundation questions, I'd still like to hear it. Otherwise, I'll respectfully exit this thread.

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    32. 4:51- I truly understand your concerns. I have a question for you or anyone else. What is the operational definition of "Community Character"? Is it objective or subjective and who decides?
      As far as Leichtag, I didn't even know there was a problem. I thought all was going well there. Anyone?

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    33. 4:52 you are describing the populace not the zoning. Community characther is about zoning- what they are seeking to change is zoning. Once zoning is changed the characther changes.

      Fact- downtown was a quiet sleepy town- it was then upzoned without a vote of the people, now it is bar community during the day and at night- the zoning changed and the character changed

      I do not agree that all want to define and protect the city

      1. did the council members want to protect the city and residents when they lied on prop A ?

      2. Did Barth Shaffer and Kranz want to protect residents at Desert Rose- no they voted against thier safety and courts ruled against them- Shaffer then lied in her newsletter that the developer lost the suit- do you think liars want to protect the community

      3. THe council are spending like drunken sailors- is that protecting the community?

      Lastly, the council was forced by residents to put restrictions on density bonus. THe people who deserve to be thanked are the residents of Balour, Fulvia, the Turney's, Gerry S- Donna W, Julie Graboi, S Cameron and the list goes on- Ron Ransom, B Bonde- they made it an issue, kept it an issue and forced the council to start representing them and stop representing the developers.

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    34. 5:12- Great post. And, it is all true. Hat tip!

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    35. 5:08 pick up the general plan

      Lecturing Lisa Shaffer thinks we are all in her class and she can lecture us about her idea of character-

      kind of like she lectures about ethics buy has none- liar

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  17. No more units period. We don't have the water plus all the other negative impacts.

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    1. 9:48, as I said in the last paragraph--totally understand and respect that view.

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  18. 9:36 AM
    Read the General Plan. You won't be struggling.

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    1. Capital idea, 11:31. I'm tired of tire-kickers who may or may not be sincere.

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    2. What a cop out.

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  19. Shaffer didn't have the guts to do the right thing on Desert Rose. She lied to many of us. I don't trust her. If she supports Blakespear, I will not.

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    1. She not only supports Catherine, she gave her the maximum she could give her in the way of money. So did Barth. Not sure about Kranz.

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  20. Rumor has it she is good friends with Marco. That ought to tell us something.

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  21. Through June 30, Shaffer and Barth each gave Blakespear $250, as did Shaffer's spouse. Kranz gave Blakespear nada.

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  22. What is a link to find out who is giving campaign contributions. Or the name of the organization that tracks it. I cannot seem to find it. Thanks.

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    1. Call the Encinitas City Clerk's office.

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  23. I just went on the CIty of Encinitas website and clicked on City Clerk's office. From there go to campaigns and you will see who is supporting all of the candidates. It was an eye opener for me. Most of Blakespeare's supporters seem to be in Cardiff. I have lived in Cardiff for 30 years and have never even heard her name. Sure seems odd.

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    1. I tried that and I don't see a section after clicking on City Clerk's office that says "campaigns". Must be missing a step?

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  24. After you click on City Clerk, click on the red link to elections. That will take you there.

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  25. OK - so here are some meaningless numbers for you:
    Blakespear's support is as follows:
    40% retired
    6.5% real estate people
    3% political people
    32% self employed (includes attorneys)
    11% salaried professionals
    7.5% non-workers (homemakers?)

    Graboi is made up of the following:
    22% retired
    0% real estate
    11% Political people
    11% self employed (yes, that would be Dr. Lorri)
    45% salaried professionals
    11% non-workers (homemakers?).

    Now, excluding Blakespear's contribution, she still out raises Graboi 7 to 1 overall. She's ahead in soliciting retire and self employed people (mostly attorneys - her base), but lags in salaried professionals. Julie has it there. Julie is marginally ahead in non workers, but that's probably because salaried professionals tend to have more single earner households than the other groups.

    Regardless, Julie better start raising some serious cash!!!

    - The Sculpin

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    1. How much can one contribute anonymously??

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    2. Anonymously? $250. plus $250. minus $500.

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    3. What a bunch of crap! How many of these people work for unions. Every single person on those list have a special interest.

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    4. 3:14- Come on. Every single person on the list has a special interest? I'm pretty sure that none of the self-employed people work for the unions, and I'm pretty sure that many on the list care about Encinitas-no matter which list we are talking about. Your post isn't credible, although you have every right to post it as long as Wc says so.

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    5. Money raised tells me nothing. Where it comes from says something. Marco was at Blakespear's fundraiser. I don't care if Blakespear outraises the others 1,000 to 1, she's still well on the road to owing favors to people who would love nothing more than to sell this town out from under us. She proudly touts "vibrancy" and a developer father. No, thanks.

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    6. non worker = trust fund

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  26. Marco is getting more money by suing. Here is another example. I have cut and pasted just a part, as I know it's a no no to post the whole thing. It's about the TJ River Valley
    "Gonzalez and Briggs argued that the city was breaking its own rules by issuing emergency permits to dredge rather than doing a full review and admitting that the dredging is a regular, annual necessity.

    The courts agreed with them and sent the city back to work on its permit. Meanwhile, worried residents went without the channels being dredged, which put them at high risk of flooding.

    The case settled in March 2013. In the settlement agreement, the city and the lawyers agreed to a range of fees between $50,000 and $200,000 and agreed not to disclose the range of fees they'd agreed to.

    In his quest for fees, Gonzalez noted the valley residents’ anger over the blocked dredging as a reason to increase his fees:"
    So what about the anger of Olevenhain folks. Can they sue too? Or does it just go one way?

    "It was a contentious action and unpopular in the community," Gonzalez wrote. "Indeed, in numerous discussions with city councilmembers, city staff and other interested parties, petitioners were blamed for putting private property at risk for our unwillingness to rubberstamp flawed versions of the [city's master stormwater plan].”

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    1. This parasite looks for loopholes to exploit purely for self gain. He is a prime example why the law profession is despised - this maggot is the Al Sharpton of the quasi-environmental overseers.

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    2. IT is becoming time to out the self serving practices of THe Coast Law Group - aka the Upzone the Coast Law Group and The Coast Lose Group

      Has Marco ever won a case in the private sector- his dweveloper clients always lose- his bread and butter is bullying towns and municipalities

      ps- Marco is a supporter of the unethical Shaffer and the land baroness Blakespear

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    3. Marco's sister will run for governor in 2020, he is just polishing his credentials to be placed on the CCC after her election. Hopefully I and many others I know will be out of Calif by then.

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    4. There is a lot more to be outed about Marco. Stay tuned.

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    5. 1:44 I fear you are correct. Lorainna is backed by La Raza- The group that promotes violation of our laws and a racist group that puts one race before all others. LA RAZA donates mightly to the Democratic Party that just endorsed Blaksepear and Kranz-

      LA RAZA is for less freedom and more government control- kind of like deciding what kind of people should live where- the onyl compassion they know is to take from your family and then they decide who they will give too

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    6. 1:44 I don't know much about Lorena, but it seems kind of unlikely that if she ran she would win. Her buddy Heuso got at DUI just the other day, so he's probably don't going to be much help. BTW, what does CCC mean. I honestly don't have a clue.

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    7. 6:16- CCC is Calif Coastal Commision. Extremely powerful people that never stand for election but can shut down your project of any project in their jurisdiction at the drop of a hat.
      2:05- Lorena is taking her power play from the Mexican political party play book. In which a few politicians amass enormous power and profits for them selves and their friends. Much like Feinstein's husbands construction company being awarded the first $10 billion contract for the high speed train.
      Politics is the most profitable profession in the 3rd world, just ask Putin, and Calif is on a one way train to the 3 rd world ....

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    8. 6:29-Thanks for the clarification. I know what the Coastal Commission is, I just didn't understand the acronym. Yes, politics sure seems profitable. I live in Isss's district, and what I have read he has the most money on the Hill. I'm not saying he didn't earn some of it on his own. but given he is a very powerful politician, one is left to wonder how much has he made just by being in Congress? In fact, he doesn't even bother to stop in once in a while to members of his own constituency. Seems like a lot of politicos ignore their constituency after they are elected. I guess that would include Encinitas politicians as well.

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    9. 6:45- last I know Issa was worth $500M, Pelosi-$500 M, Boxer-$500 M, Feinstein-$750 M. Do any of these people care what the price of gasoline is??? Do any of them know the price of a gallon of gas??

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    10. After all parties sign a settlement agreement, and one of the parties is a government agency, that is a city, or some other agency, the settlement is publicly disclosable, if someone puts in a California Public Records Act request. Settlements can be non disclosable only for private agencies, such as insurance companies, etc.

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    11. Politicians are in the game to line their own pockets. Feinstein's husband's businesses have received Federal contracts for many years; you can be sure that they all have interests in the war machine. There should be term limits for all offices, as these dinosaurs serve only their own interests and those that keep them in power.

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    12. Marco on the CCC??! That's like having Col. Sanders on the chicken clemency committee. He'll really be able to fleece the system then. America - land of opportunity for the con artists.

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  27. The above was from the San Diego Reader, Oct. 13, 2013.

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  28. Sculpin- What are political people. Where did you get these statistics, as I didn't see them on the City website. I must have missed something.

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    1. Political people are office holders like Barth, Melba in O'side - essentially public office holders.
      Basically, I got the info from the candidates donation disclosure forms on the city's website and then created a little spreadsheet and dumped the data in. I guess you could say that these statistics are proprietary, but I'm always willing to share with my friends, foils, geeks, hacks and curmudgeons on good 'ole EU.....

      - The Sculpin

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    2. Let's see your list in detail, Sculp. We get enough "news" through innuendo from Barth and Shaffer. You can do better than them, surely.

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    3. You can read the raw data and names at the link WC provided in one of the prior posts. Any way you cut it, Blakespeare has the cash, which does matter, big time. Based on that right now and the fact she had a site up early, she would be the prohibitive favorite at this point.

      -MGJ

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    4. Yeah?? I say follow the money. That will tell the story.

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  29. I agree. This urban density bonus is bullcrap

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  30. How sad that it comes down to money. Those who have (like Blakespeare and her family money) and those who haven't (like Graboi, who has fought city hall for a long time and is recognized as a contributor to our community). The have- nots usually lose elections, but not always. Those of us who think Julie is a better choice just need to work a little harder than Blankstare (whops, should have typed Blakespeare, but I know of like my first typo choice. The unconscious is a powerful thing.

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  31. "Money doesn't talk, it swears" Bob Dylan

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  32. Go to this page:

    http://www.ci.encinitas.ca.us/index.aspx?page=119

    Scroll down almost to the bottom to the subhead:

    Campaign Statements Filed with the City Clerk's Office

    Click on the nearly invisible red here.

    That brings up all the candidates' folders. Their contributors and contributions are the 460 forms.

    Anybody can compile stats from there.

    In 2010, for example, 66.4% of Gaspar's funds came from addresses outside Encinitas.

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    1. Looks like the shrink had another shrinking moment.

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    2. Dr. Lorri's tombstone: "This person has been removed by her maker."

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    3. There are some people on this blog who would ridicule, trash, humiliate etc, Dr. Lori on anything she would post. So, now she does it anonymously. And interestingly enough, her posts are often received very well. So, let's just call it- some people just don't like her, which is fine, but when SHE, posts anon. they love her comments. So I'm left with the sense that the haters of Dr. L are either Sabine (who we all dislikes her, but can't fire her), Stocks, whose dislike of Dr. L goes way back, Vina, who also doesn't like her, Parks and Rec. Lisa, who also doesn't like her and helped get her off the P and R Commission, and probably people I am missing. Anyway, since most of us know her writing style, we know when she posts and when she doesn't. Too bad we can't all just remark on ideas, rather than personal issues. But, that is not the way of haters.

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    4. Oh, I forgot, the person who wins the award for hating Dr. L the most is Marco Gonzales. That says volumes to me. If Marco has the balls he will defend my last comment, as we know he reads this blog.

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    5. 11:25 If Ms. Greene never posted another comment, it would be a great day.

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    6. Won't happen Glen, who is the only person who calls me that name.

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    7. When the city attorney gets replaced there will be dancing in the streets in Encinitas!

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    8. And you can thank Dr. Lorri for that no matter how much you haters dislike her. She is the only one who has stood before three different councils and asked he be replaced. That should be enough redemption 10:09 to get her in to the great beyond. You, on the other hand, are scum. And we all know where attorneys and scum go!

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    9. 4:07 Alex, who is running for mayor, challenged the city attorney just a week ago. Check out last week's council meeting. So, your statement that Ms. Greene is the ONLY ONE is incorrect.

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    10. 4:07, I'm scum, eh?

      What is the nature of your mental defect that you cannot detect the difference between a joke about an epitaph, and wishing for someone to die?

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    11. 7:53 I actually thought it was very clever, but I'm not 4:07

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    12. 7:24- Read 4:07's post again. I said she has been before 3 different council attempting to get Sabine fired. Alex may have done it the other night, but so did Dr. Lorri. Give credit where credit is due. In fact, despite her black glasses she managed to glare right at Sabine while presenting. Go look for yourself. She called it a vendetta that has gone on way too long. She also brought about 400 pages from the Marr's case, which by the way, is no longer the City of Encinitas vs. the Marr's, but it is the People vs. the Marr's. So since he has taken it out of the hands of the city, taking off the lien could be done. You would know this if you had read the 400 pages. But, you are not alone, as only Shaffer said she read it, however I doubt it.

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    13. Ms. Greene can look at any one she chooses. So big deal, she looked at Sabine. What does that prove? Absolutely nothing. The glasses didn't help her cause --- on and off, on and off, on and off --- scrambled, scribbled notes that even she couldn't read. Got to wonder how her mind works. Never mind. I know.

      One thing she is not is an attorney, so she may as well give up that charade. If she is so interested in the Marrs' case, how about her forking over some money to help their cause?

      Talk is cheap.

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    14. 8:50- You're right Talk is cheap. And I was at that Council meeting. I will say that she was not her best that night, but since I imagine you think your psychic maybe you can tell us what might be going on with her? The point is she has tried and tried and tried. That doesn't always mean success. I think even Alex would agree to that. So she did the best she could given a lot of things that none on this blog you will know. Go ahead, trash me and trash her. I will say it one lat time: She showed up! Did you?

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    15. 9:12 Yes, I was there Ms. Greene. I sat through the entire meeting.

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    16. That you did Glen. And, you even got paid for it. Most of us who come to and/or speak do so because we care for our City. I just read an interesting article about your services in La Mesa. Think I'll try one more time by sending it to Council. It probably won't get you fired, as nothing else has, but hey it's worth a shot. And, have a nice day tomorrow. I think that's when the next Council meeting is.

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    17. 11:30 I know our city manager would not waste his time posting on this blog to Ms. Greene. You certainly have derailed your train. Try another route.

      Only the council has the power and authority to hire and fire the city manager and city attorney. But, if you have nothing better to do, keep spinning your wheels.

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  34. Catherine Blakespear
    Today's urban agriculture sub-committee meeting left me feeling hopeful that the city's leaders and the city staff got the message from the 50 people in attendance that we want it to be easier to grow and sell produce. The subcommittee format is perfectly designed to let the people be truly involved in policy making. I'm thrilled so many people in Encinitas share my vision and desire for a city that embraces a farming renaissance!- Catherine Blakespeare

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    1. Cathy- thanks for your input. Please tell us your opinions on street repair, staff salaries and pensions, PV, how we maintain the cost of up keep regarding the new sports park. The Leucadia streetscape, the quiet zones at train crossings, the cost of govt and how it's paid for . How about the bar noise from downtown.
      We want your positions on the above, ignore these at your voting peril .

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    2. Fake. She wouldn't spell her own name wrong!

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    3. 9:18 THE ONION, you ain't, but I chuckled.

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    4. Blakespeare's pandering to the home-grown set. Stop allowing subdivisions to be placed on former greenhouse land then. Won't happen under her watch.

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    5. Won't stop happening on anyone's watch....

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    6. 11:18- I agree I'm not the onion but asking a hard question and expecting a serious answer is a very hilarious thought in this town.....

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    7. C'mon, settle down, it was funny. And it's true that getting a serious answer to ANYthing without a sub-committee assigned to deflect the answer is a miracle.

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  35. How is it that 50 people can attend a subcommittee in the middle of the day? I have to work,. So, Catherine the subcommittee format doesn't work for the working class. If it did, the meeting would be held at night.

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  36. Catherine, we know how you feel about the agriculture and you wanting to enhance that. There are so many more important items that have not been addressed by the council in years.

    You attend the council meetings and intentionally sit where we all can see you. What a lame idea for campaigning. If that was your idea, that tells me what kind of person you are. If it was your buddies Shaffer and Barth, you can forget my vote because those two have been a disaster. Please do whatever they tell you because it will hit you in the face come voting time. We will NOT vote for someone that is attached to them.

    Please, as the other poster suggested, say what you will do about the mess at city hall with the city manager, with the city attorney, the escalating pensions, the overpaid staff, the street repairs. How do you plan to pay for Pacific View, the Community park? Are you at all concerned with the people who have overtaken our downtown who come here to get drunk? Do you care at all about the citizens, or are you running because you want to help the developers?

    I am one who will NOT vote for you and others have said the same. If your money is going to buy a seat on the council, so be it. But, it is US who will be harmed by you.

    Julie Graboi is my choice.

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    1. 9:53 Now you did it. All the other candidates are going to clump in that corner of the room behind speakers now for more exposure!

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    2. Julie is the better choice.

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    3. I second that motion.

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  37. 9:37, instead of going on hearsay or just making stuff up, why not Google and find the facts?

    Calendar year 2012:

    http://media.cq.com/50richest/

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  38. After researching Blakespears contributions, 62.8% came from developer types.

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    1. Please tell us in detail how you did your analysis. Sculpin did the same analysis and came up with 6.4% in real estate, which could also include agents, appraisers, mortgage officers at the local bank, etc.

      My guess is you are pulling numbers out of your ass again, but we'll see.

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    2. I fell right into that one.

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  39. I'd like to hear any candidate come up with a plan to rein in salaries and pensions. Since staff is too "overworked" lets spend $100k on a study that compares public to private sector salaries and benefits and base future compensation on its results. I'd be happy to do this for free. There are web resources that companies (like mine) reference in the private sector to help determine market value for various positions. It might take me 20 hrs. to do this, however I don't think the city would be comfortable spending less than 100K based on history.
    Cabezon

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    1. Fat, excessive pensions (burp) here to stay! Retire at 50 with a 6 figure income for life.

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  40. Lecturing Lisa sounds alot like Lecturing Obama and both have surrounded themselves with people who say one thing and do another to hoodwink the public

    News out today that inside Cronie who benefits from inside deals Warren Buffet is helping Burger King and their tax tax dollars leave America to avoid taxes by giving them $3Billion which is sure to include some sweet inside warrants- kind of like when Buffet traded ahead of the fed and citizens scooping in Bear, Morgan, Wells, and B of A just hours before the fed bailed them out with taxpayer money making Buffett Billions

    Warren of course gets trotted out by Lecturing Obama to tell us all how we need to pay more in taxes while the insiders benefit. The state owned press promote the lie- In the name of compassion right

    Have you heard about the Schaffer Kranz tax increase? Should residents be taxes to pay for the same project twice?

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    1. Turn off the Fox, turn on the mind....

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    2. 8:44- Turn on the mind?? LOLOLLLLOLOLLLL. No thinking permitted here in Mayberry by the Sea. But if you did, I'm sure you'd hurt yourself.

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    3. 8:44- answer the question- should residents be taxed twice to pay for uncompleted projects they were told they already had paid for?

      It's a simple yes or no question. Do you have an answer?

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    4. I would like an answer to that question myself. I don't think taxpayers would be thrilled to be taxed twice. If people are not paying attention, they should be.

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    5. 12:05- you mean like the life guard tower which had monies allocated then spent in something else so we can spend more monies ??? You mean like that??

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    6. At the March 12 2014 meeting Lisa Shaffer and Tony Kranz proposed raising taxes. Shaffer said more debt was not an option

      4 months later Shaffer and Kranz voted to increase debt by $20M and increase annual debt service by $750,000 a year for 30 years- money that could be used to fix roads and parks is now going to pay debt

      Shaffer Kranz Barth and blakespear have all referred to responsible citizens objecting to this double taxation and waste of money as whiners-

      Lisa Shaffer- arrogant, unethical and unable to balance our checkbook

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    7. Which project? It's not like a car you buy, city budgets are handled a little bit different, and we've gone over it ad nauseum already....

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    8. 8:00 that is why ENcinitas is near bankrupt and Shaffer VIna dn KRanz are looking to raise taxes , fees and put in parking meters. For 8 long years Teresa Barth did nothing as budget after crooked budget fleeced Encinitas taxpayer

      we have gone over it nausema- money that was taxed to fix our roads went to pension and pay increases


      money that was taxed to fix out sewers and strom drains went to pay for consultants and surveys

      money that was taxed for our rail horns, crossings and quiet zones was looted and diverted with no plan to pay it back-

      now you and your tax and spend friends Shaffer Krans and Blakespear want to take more money from me and my family-

      and blame a budget, not irrepsonsible leadership

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    9. 9:21- join me and tens of thousands of other decent honest hard working citizens as we abandon the state we grew up in for greener pastures. Soon all that will be left in California will be govt workers, lawyers, illegal aliens and Indian casinos.

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    10. 9:34,

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVznerpOkTI

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    11. 9:21 teh President of Mexico today told Governor Borwn that California was part of Mexic0- Governor Brown welcomed all illegal immigrants

      sady this is the compassion of Shaffer, to make Encinitas, California, America a third workd country , part of mexico, overty, reudcing the income and quality of life of residents-

      they call this equitable, social justice, compassion- while they take and tax our families, and while LA RAZA promotes their candidates of hate a racism

      I am for the rule of law, the rule of law for all, not the rule of law for a few-

      yes, It is nearing time that I too take my tax dollars elsewhere-

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  41. 7:36: You neglected to mention Bill Ayers and Saul Alinsky .

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    1. What do Alinsky and Ayers have to do with the proposed shaffer kranz tax increase?

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  42. Don't forget Tim Leary.

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    1. Turn on, tune in , drop out....3rd axiom obsolete, unless you're a derelict.

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    2. Wasn't Leary a mole for the CIA? LOL

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    3. 7:59,

      Not buying it. Leary had his free speech restricted by threat of imprisonment for advocating LSD use, but I don't think he actually collaborated with the CIA.

      Tune in, turn on, drop out!

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    4. Leary's ;art book was entitled "Flashback" and it was pretty good. At the end of his life he worked on computers. In some ways the man was a genius and yes he did say "Tune in, turn on, drop out", he himself didn't do it. And he was fired from Harvard for his research into LSD, as was Frank Alport AKA Ram Dass. Just a little trivia pursuit to lighten the mood.

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    5. Richard Alpert morphed into Ram Dass. Leary's "Flashback" was a memoir, not an art book, tho it may have had illustrations. There were allegations that Leary was a snitch, but I don't think they were ever corroborated. Leary saw the advent of the Internet
      age as a major contributor to the change of consciousness on the planet - I think he over exaggerated it tho. Ram Dass is into metaphysical methodology for consciousness change, much more appropriate to reflect the psychedelic vision. Both are icons of the culture, whose influence changed the direction of many lives....

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  43. Alinsky and Ayers have to do with the partisan troll who lurks on this blog repeating things he/or she heard on Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/Ingraham/Levin/ adnausium and never holding conservatives to the same standard. I don't have a problem with criticism of public figures as long as you put your side to the same scutiny. The biggest critics of sports teams our there own fans.
    Cabezon

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    1. Cabezon- There is no difference between the so called Koch Brothers, Soros or that inside pile of crap Warren Buffet. Yes, Buffett went around with Obama telling us all we should pay more taxes, yes, today Buffet put $ 3 Billion into a deal to take tax money out of america- yes, Buffett got inside information and traded ahead of citizens making billions on the bank bailouts-

      there is no lying and no trolling in those facts- they are simply what they-

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    2. Well, there is a difference, but we wouldn't want to have a rational discussion, would we?

      What, a rich guy getting info first, that never happens....

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  44. Vote for Cameron and Graboi. They will clean up the city like you've never seen before. It will be great! They are sincere, ethical people who really care about our city. They have been working years for the Encinitas residents. Any one who claims otherwise must be either ignorant of the facts or one of the people in city hall who fear them (the lazy, no good losers like Vina and Sabine). Don't vote for anyone else. Graboi and Cameron, please!

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    1. Oh Crazy Cameron is a team with Graboi?

      I guess Graboi just lost a ton of voters.

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    2. Not so sure that Graboi is hanging with Cameron. She is her own person. She is not being endorsed by the Democratic Party, led by Francine Busby, who for some reason, seems to dislike Graboi and thinks Catherine is the cats meow. She is one of the people who would actually get something done on the Coucnil. You might not alway like how she votes, but when she votes she will have read everything, and will make an informed decision not based on developers, attorneys, or other such stupidity.

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    3. I'm ok with Cameron but I'm super stoked on Julie Graboi who is sincere, smart, and with the pulse of what citizens want.

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    4. Busby, the perennial loser. Busby trips over her own tongue - the "Joe Biden loose lips disconnected from brain" syndrome. If she is Democratic, then I am independent. Anyone Busby endorses is out of the running, as far as I am concerned.

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  45. Why would the voters elect Cameron after they threw her out of office? Stocks has a better chance of getting re-elected.

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    1. Wrong, 11:57. Stocks has ZERO chance. He's not even in the running.

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  46. Shelia was NOT "thrown out of office".

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    1. She was not re elected by the voters coming in a distant 4th.... Out of the money !!!!

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  47. OK… removed from office for the health of everyone involved including Encinitas.

    Crazy Cameron was removed as Mayor.

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  48. Regarding Sheila Cameron:
    If you’re new to N. County politics you may not remember her, but this is the same Sheila Cameron who was elected to the Encinitas City Council in 1996 after a failed attempt in 1992, was selected Mayor by her new majority on the City Council in 1999, then was de-throned by that very same Council who found her behavior too off-putting to allow her to remain as Mayor. Everyone knows that an appointed Mayor serves at the pleasure of the Council majority, but Ms. Cameron holds a distinction as the only Encinitas Mayor ever to not complete the one year assignment due to the City Council having had enough of her. She was unceremoniously dumped before her year ended.
    As a City Council Member she ran for re-election in 2000 and was trounced. Her other major distinction was that she refused to have a portrait hung in city hall with the other elected members of the city council for reasons she never really articulated, and as Mayor she ordered the then fire chief to turn off the fire alarms in city hall so she could hold a smudging ceremony to chase away the bad spirits (or something like that).

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    1. Sheila Cameron is great and you are attacking with a bunch of hooey. Long time residents know she is the kind of person we need and want in government, especially after this past decade of disastrous leadership.

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  49. 5:47-Are you making up the part about the smudging ceremony? I find it hard to believe that the fire dept. would do that.

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  50. 5:47: Cameron AND two other council members thought it would be fun and funny to "sage" city hall when they got in to rid the place of any former council member bad vibes. They did it IN FUN. Cameron did not act alone.

    She asked the city clerk to check the smoke alarms to make sure they would not go off from their saging thing. She did not "order" the fire department to do anything.

    Back in yer hole, Mikey. The truth always outs.

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    1. " sage ". New world idiocy. Why not use Tibetian bowls to. " cleanse. " the aura also ??? Idiots.
      Oh yeah don't eat the brown acid man....
      Mayfuckin'berry by the Sea.

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    2. M'ok, 9:15. Saging is actually a Native American practice, but clearly you know all...yeah....

      When exactly are you moving?

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