Wednesday, September 28, 2016

9/28/16 City Council meeting open thread

The current city council has continued prior councils' practice of not providing written summary minutes of council discussion, but only "action minutes" which state the outcomes. Encinitas Undercover will provide a forum for observers to record what occurs at each council meeting.

Please use the comments to record your observations.

128 comments:

  1. Everyone's favorite part: a proclamation!

    Why does Gaspar like to make these things sound like a game show?

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    1. The answer is easy. She's way too juvenile. She better step up her demeanor if she plans on hob nobbing with the County folks.

      Maybe she can make enough money to get a nose job and fix her big teeth.

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  2. I hereby declare the Encinitas City Council FAILURES. Where my photo op??

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  3. The Governor signed AB 2501.

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    1. Wipe the drool, Meyer or shill. You're leaking more than usual.

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    2. 6:49 PM

      Hardly. You're demonstrating your ignorance but you seem ok with that.

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    3. Yup.

      http://www.highlandnews.net/news/political/governor-brown-issues-legislative-update/article_375d0bc6-85cc-11e6-acb4-b32e080d3844.html

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    4. 7:26 If you had included the reference in the first place, nobody would have doubted what you posted at 6:33.

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    5. Cue the many commenters who praise council for settling this case rather than pouring money down the drain on legal expenses when their legal case would have been completely obliterated.

      Anyone?

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    6. Where's your "obliterated" evidence? Vina's 28 identified activists who have made your life hell, 8:13, have a bright attorney's opinion on their side.

      On the City's side, they have ummmmmmm yeah. Sabine. Righteo.

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    7. 8:18,

      Don't embarrass yourself further.

      The City was arguing that they had discression to round down in DB calculations. AB 2501 says they do not, and it also states that this was always the law, so the city can't try to grandfather rounding down.

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    8. Actually, city caved to meyer on rounding up. The word is "discretion" and they did not make that claim. Wipe the drool, fool.

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    9. okay 9:14,

      Please explain the legal argument in the DCM density bonus case. Explain the city's defense argument, the contents of 2501, and why the city's legal position would not be affected by its passage.

      Good luck.

      The truth is, the city saved us money by caving on a dead bang loser. Whether you like 2501 or not isn't relevant. The fact that it passed means the city made the right move.

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  4. The "load more" comments thing isn't working where there are supposed to be 211 comments visible below.

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  5. Tree City, USA!

    Why does even the simplest thing become such a long, drawn out big deal?

    Is West Coast Arborists the same company that cut down the wrong tree in Leucadia Roadside Park?

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    1. There is not a tree in Leucadia that is safe from development. Any tree in the way of project is diseased, failing, a threat to children. There is no oversight or control. Build it now! That is the way-of-working.
      This way of regulating is abominable.
      Crap-town in the works...

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  6. Another night of illegal straight pipes racing around town . What did the city manager have her head up her ass ?

    Where is city Council to tell the city manager try and force existing laws ?

    We want peace in Encinitas not pollution !!!

    I'm not voting for any of these polluters

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    1. Caution... Above commenter wants to enforce laws. Likely prop t supporter. Ignore.

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  7. City of Dallas Texas losing police at record pace as police and firefighters pension fund about to go under....lololllololll. Hey Muir that $175K won't be around much longer.... lololllolollll!!!

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  8. Straight pipes. Louder, Later. Any hope of something happening is obviously on deaf ears.

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    1. 8:55 & 9:07 Do you really think griping on this blog about straight pipes or anything else will cause the city manager or council to act?

      You have to bring the issue yourself, and the more people you have with you, the better.

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  9. City discussing new lifeguard tower... gasbag wants the tower built on time and under budget. Yeah sure. Since when does anything the city touches come on time and under budget ??

    Gasbag says she's happy she won't be on the council anymore... not as happy as us you idiot!!

    Muir supports the city spending $3M on new lifeguard tower which we already spent under idiot Vina... taxpayers screwed again!!

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    1. We didn't spend it until the City awards the contract to construct it. There is still time not to make this colossal waste of money to build a cop fort in the surf zone of the beach. We need cops giving straight-pipe violators tickets and speeding tickets, not staring at bikinis all day.

      City Council needs to pull their head out of their asses and direct the City Manager to direct the sheriffs to issue tickets. Quit the freeloading gravy train.

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    2. More like $3.9 million on the ultra plush lifeguard tower. Council has only $3 million in the general fund.

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    3. 9:54 PM

      "...colossal waste of money to build a cop fort in the surf zone of the beach."

      It's a small shelf under the stairs. Where do you live, under the freeway that makes this look like a fort? Give it up.

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  10. City conducts study to fill parks with solar panels.....

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  11. fucking drag strip on the 101 again. Police -? Nowhere in Encinitas. Only in Carlsbad. Are Encinitas taxpayers paying for police services for police to patrol Solana Beach?

    Where are the fricken cops?

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  12. WC censoring comments again.

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  13. WC, sorry to see it pop up, but it is time to take the trash out again.

    Whoever this is, they should go elsewhere. They know they are not welcomed here, but they keep coming back to EU.

    They sure do offer a stark contrast in acceptable and unacceptable behavior. One would think they would go elsewhere.

    There are no sympathetic leanings here. Why does he persist and pollute the fine site we have discussing crucial community issues?

    Please go and stay away. Find a site that approves of your sick mind, It isn't here. Freedom of speech has allowed you to spout whatever vile thoughts you are ingrained with, but why here on EU?

    The type of sickness you are poisoned with has noting to do with our fine community at large, and surely here on EU we should not have to be exposed to your hatred. Go where you are appreciated and your rot is acceptable. It is not here on EU.

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    1. I have to admit that alot of what 8:26 says is true but.....the same can be said about right wing Christians who have been trying to destroy our public education system for decades.

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    2. "You have to admit that...?" Wow, just wow. He's talking about all Jews, not extremist Jews. So you liken all Jews to right-wing Christians?

      Or do you want to rethink your post?

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    3. 3:42 Could we get a little more color on your statement: "right wing Christians who have been trying to destroy our public education system for decades."

      Is saying a prayer before school what you describe as "destroying our public educations system for decades?" Please provide specific examples of what you mean so that we don't regard you as a bigot? Thank you.

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    4. 10:19,

      Yes. Saying a prayer to begin school is unconstitutional and wrong. Your kids can get their religious education elsewhere.

      Also, right wing nuts keep pushing to insert the idea into our science classes that sky daddy made everything 6000 years ago, that people lived alongside dinosaurs, and that the fossil record of evolution was some sort of elaborate prank by the sky daddy.

      Also, every one of the 8.7 million species on earth fit in a boat, and when the boat landed, kangaroos hopped and swam to Australia without leaving a trace along the way.

      Of course, the sky daddy also punked us into thinking the universe was billions of years old by creating star light in flight from distant objects in the sky.

      Good one, sky daddy. You really got us there.

      You can believe in Jupiter, Yahweh, Zoroaster, Thor, Athena, Jah, Jesus, Zeus, Pele, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just keep them out of our schools.

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  14. There is alot of hate towards city council members and certain staff for their inability to act to protect or better Encinita's quality of life.

    Why isn't there a quiet zone on Encinitas yet?

    Is WC going to delete all those comments? Will only perceived positive comments be allowed?

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  15. All I hear on Neptune this morning is a few birds and the roar of straight pipe traffic on I 5.

    Why are the cops not giving out tickets ?

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    1. You do know the Sheriffs don't have jurisdiction on I-5, right?

      That's CHP.

      You can stop annoying people here and instead contact them directly here:

      https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp

      I hope that helps.

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    2. 731-

      Stop with your annoying comments ....

      You seem to be supporting pollution !!

      I do not like pollution and therefore do not like your opinions

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    3. Encinitas Sheriff's CAN give tickets on Highway 5 in Encinitas.

      Anybody that thinks differently is foolish.

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    4. Noise isn't a public safety issue. No property is damaged or stolen, and no one gets injured.

      It will never be a high priority for law enforcement, because they have higher priorities.

      The people who buy and operate straight pipes are simply inconsiderate jerks. But there is no time or place throughout history without inconsiderate jerks. Best to move on with your life and not let something you can't ever control ruin your day.

      Ditto for the 1000 Watt sub-woofer morons who think we all welcome their gift of "music" in a hundred yard radius. That's actually more annoying in my estimation.

      Finally, whining over and over on a blog is just plain ineffective. If you really believe you can make a difference, then you need to use your time and resources more strategically.

      Fighting annoying with more annoying isn't going to work.

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  16. 9:27am Whiner-

    You have a victim mentally. Poor you. Plus, you sound very ignorant.

    Many communities have and will continue to address excessive and illegal noise pollution. Hence, the existing laws.

    Noise pollution has grave impacts on health (mental and physical), environment (nature), property values, and financial success for businesses, and quality of life in communities. Because of the importance of the issue, many community have adopted quiet zones, and enforce existing laws.
    If you don’t address the idiots, the idiot population bad behavior grows dramatically. Which has happened in Encinitas.

    I know the prior poster doesn’t agree, but I know many in the community who do care about noise pollution issues that could and should be addressed.

    --Enforce existing California Vehicle Code laws.
    --Promote Peace - Quiet the Pollution
    -- Get the cops off biniki patrol and giving traffic tickets

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    1. You experience grave mental and physical injury because somebody rode by on a Harley, but I have a victim mentality?

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  17. Impacts was the word I used. Besides a victim mentality. I get the feeling you don't seek to understand issues. You likely also don't care for listening to people. Sounds to me like you are likely a loud big mouth victim personality.

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    1. Unless the motorcycle physically hit you, there was no impact.

      http://alexisgrant.com/2011/08/30/affect-vs-impact/

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  18. thanks Grammar Granny!

    affect would have been a better choice of words.

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  19. 1:27 -

    Who said anything about a motorcycle?

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  20. Can we take down this clearly anti-Semitic rant? Jeez dude, take a look in the mirror...

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    1. Don't read it if you are disturbed.

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    2. You'd have to be disturbed not to be disturbed.

      That said, I step over shit...not in it.

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    3. Ya gotta wonder about WC. My comments about the council meeting are removed, I said nothing racist nor bigoted, but the anti-Semite loon ravings remains.

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    4. Ya something weird going on.

      I posted a tongue in cheek response to the Mel Gibson wannabe from "The Jews" and it was removed, but not the offensive rant itself.

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    5. 5:45 PM Self righteous,eh? Seems you like shit, as you categorize it as such. You a nothing more than a book burning hypocrite!

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  21. This whole straight pipe nonsense we do realize is a "hey, look over there" attempt by someone either inside or aligned with city hall hoping we get off the Measure T topic.

    Anyone notice Manjeet last night? Was he anywhere to be seen, or was he still hiding under his desk come meeting time?

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  22. https://www.facebook.com/EncinitasSaveOurCity/

    What's with staff unable to defend its own propaganda? Will Lisa be able to admit she was wrong in next week's installment of "With gratitude" newsletter? (Will she be able to understand?)
    How will the rest of the council defend staff's inaction? Has the city manager lost all control over her direct reports? Or did she never have it and we're just finding that out now?

    Inquiring minds want to know....

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    1. The City Manager is weak and compliant to her masters, if you haven't figured that out yet.

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    2. Oh, I've figured that out. She and "staff" will be called out increasingly in public, as will council.

      "Stay tuned," as Vina liked to say...and Lisa liked to parrot.

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  23. It took Bruce Ehlers 2 weeks of asking about certain things pertaining to Measure T. He got stonewalled.At the Council meeting he told us of many suspected.

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    1. Check with the City and you'll learn: still no reply.

      City trolls curiously silent.

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  24. My comments about Santa Fe dr have been removed, posted less than 2 hours ago. Anti-Semite bigot posting still in place. Atta boy WC keep it kosher...
    How long will this posting remain until its brought down?? The over under is 2 hours.

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  25. 4:41pm. Manjeet was there in the back room surrounded by as many and various staff members as have ever seen been there at one time. That room was packed with on the job staffers, presumably on the clock, argh!!!! and at our expense.

    A handful would have covered the needs, after seeing who was called upon throughout the entire evening. Curiouser and curiouser. Or not. ?????

    They appear to be acting in a defensive mode. Gee, I wonder why? Duh!

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  26. This blog is good as it's local and interesting but two actions would make it great -
    1.) Censure / shut-down the Leichtag rant person. Take the hate elsewhere.
    2.) Shut-down the straight-pipe knob. The only noises more obnoxious than a non-muffled exhaust system are his posts.

    - A Guppy

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    1. This blog would be good to shut down dumb ass comments like 8:17pm for they obviously have stopped using their mind.

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    2. Leichtag is well aware of these postings and I imagine is trying to find out the source. Does the blog administrator have IP addresses of the posters?

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  27. Rail trail corridor meeting tonight showed a subdued and unhappy-looking Manjeet.

    Chickens coming home to roost...it's about time he wiped that smug look of self satisfaction off his face. If he keeps his job through the end of the year it would (should) be a miracle.

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  28. Another night of screaming staightpipes. Another night of no cops around. WTF?

    Why do I pay taxes??

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  29. WC, please take out the garbage and cleanse this thread of all the antisemitic posts (and maybe take out Mr. Straightpipes at the same time). This is getting old.

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    1. Why straightpipes? .... the comments are just as unrelated as your Measure T posted on every thread.

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    2. Ah yes, 10:15....but blog laws don't apply to her. Neither does wanting to protect our quality of life through noise enforcement and housing law compliance. Blog people don't like state laws apparently.

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  30. Judging from the time these posts were made, I'd say the troll was, indeed, "juiced"!

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  31. Just because you don't agree with a post doesn't mean WC should delete it. I think he should delete all of your passive aggressive request

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    1. Here here! Hail to free speech!

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  32. Where can I donate to Juice? They are getting 10 bucks from me every time this Jack hole high jacks a thread.

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    1. I'm with you! $10 bucks for each comment here too!

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  33. To everyone who posts or just reads this blog it has come to a turning point. If you want to read anti-Semitic rants this is becoming your go to spot. I'm not Jewish. WC, the proprietor of this blog needs to decide if that is what is desired. Maybe go all the way to alt-right. Free speech is one thing. Hate speech is another. The person(s) making those comments have the right to publish. The question is whether WC wants it published here. WC has exercised editorial judgement before so it's not like this is anything new. Maybe WC agrees with these comments and wants to associate Encinitas with it. Who knows but the lack of action is telling.

    Also, the Load More function isn't working

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    1. This is the problem with Libertarian blog administrators!!

      Look - this blog is just fine. This is just one person with a huge chip on their shoulder. His rants are getting no traction, and eventually he'll just burn out or find another venue. I do love that response of contributing $10 to JDL every time he posts - that was genius!! If his rants were getting sympathetic comments, it would be an entirely different story. But for now, just move on. Remember, just because the phone rings doesn't mean you have to answer it!

      WC - keep doing the great job you do everyday.....

      - The Sculpin

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  34. So Juice Man is anti abortion and homophobic, too. Fanatics come in all shapes and sizes and often have much in common, so you are lock step with Zionists. BTW, buy a dictionary.

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  35. I'm simply finding too hard to have a discussion on the intended thread commentary. The blog is fast moving into the "too much work" category for me.

    I've not only posted comments here, but provided "from the inbox" topics for discussion.

    I will observe from afar and if these posts that obliterate all relevant and already-underway discussion continue, will be permanently out of here.

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    1. O wa wa - take the self pity blanket and sulk in the corner.

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  36. This will also be my last post on this blog. It is no longer relevant. It had a good run, though.

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    1. Sorry to lose you. I think I've taken down all the off-topic,anti-Semitic posts.

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    2. Are there on-topic anti-Semitic comments?

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    3. And you think you will be missed????

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  37. Has anyone else noticed that EU has taken down all of the links to local papers, blogs, etc.? Is W.C even running this blog anymore, or is someone else? That would explain why so many anti-semetic posts are being left up and others are being deleted. In the past when something was deleted by EU, it would say "this comment deleted by EU", or something like that. Now, the only way we know if something has been deleted is by other people posting it. Something seems different about Encinitas Undercover. Does anyone else think the same?

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    1. Sorry, not sure how that happened. Wasn't intentional. Please send any relevant links and I'll put them back up.

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    2. I think it was in the left nav, there were links to Waves to Ride or other relevant local blogs..

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    3. 8:58- Yes, that's what I thought too. The ones I remember were: Waves to Ride; Encinitas Advocate; Encinitas Votes (Facebook group); Seaside Courier;a really fun parody blog; and a few I don't remember.

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    4. Even the voices advocating free speech are getting deleted.

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  38. "To lose some of us" who cannot stand free speech...good riddance. Weak attempt at applying social pressure to blog owner to censor/suppress/destroy free speech.

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  39. Free speach is awesome. Censorship not awesome. Unless unfounded slander.

    $tock$ is proven corruption, so worthy. $tock$ need the DA to look into his personal pension building by 35% in one night.

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    1. The DA Bonnie Dumanis?? She was hiding her own personal corruption of taking campaign contributions from a foreign national and then acting as tho she never knew him. Why she is still in office is indicative of the political cronyism that takes place in this region.

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    2. To 8:29 and 12:00. Start your own blogs. Free speech problem - in your mind(s) - solved.

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    3. No one has a right to freedom of speech on a private moderated blog.

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  40. How much does the 35% increase mean to Stocks' pension in dollars?

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  41. Encinitas Guerrilla was another one that's missing, now, WC. Did you change your format somehow and lose those links, formerly on the upper left hand side of your blog, the face page?

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  42. 12:35- That was the one I was thinking of and couldn't remember the name. I always enjoy it. I hope EU puts the links back up. I also think there was another having to do with Measure T, but cannot remember the name of that one either. I think I may already by senile, but since there are so many awesome folks on this blog, i know someone will know the name.

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    1. The other blog about Measure T is:

      http://www.encinitasforward.com/

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    2. The "other" blog? You mean the one where person X is fronting for the City because it's illegal for them to campaign directly for Measure T?

      You mean the blog that claims Measure T is all about affordable housing (it requires none) and claims "the State" is "forcing all cities" to stuff all the developer-friendly fine print it can into this vote (the State doesn't).

      Is that the "other blog" you mean?

      Refer folks instead to the website run by residents at no profit to them: www.encinitassaveourcity.com. 100% of the information on this site and the Facebook page comes from the City, but is not what the City has made known to residents. https://www.facebook.com/EncinitasSaveOurCity/


      There's something wrong with a plan you have to work that hard to spin and sell.

      Go with the Encinitas Save Our City sites for the real deal, not the "I got campaign contributions from developers" deal.

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    3. Measure T is the Trojan Horse for the developers and real estate industry. Burn it before it gets thru the gates!

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    4. 8:13,

      Can you point us to the cities with HCD-approved housing elements that you would approve of?

      There are literally hundreds to choose from, so certainly you can point to ONE without the "developer friendly fine print."

      I think encinitasforward does a very good job of presenting an objective analysis. (no, I don't work on the site; no, I don't work for the city. Yawn.)

      I'm inclined to vote against people who are not telling the truth, like the measure undermines Prop A. It doesn't. In fact, Measure T is a direct manifestation of Prop A. Prop A calls for a vote on any upzoning, and we are going to vote. The council super-majority language in the draft has been removed, so this talking point about undermining Prop A is 100% false.

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    5. 10::09

      No one said anything about prop A. Stop arguing with yourself.

      I have read other HCD and have seen things such as low interest loans for updating granny flats. ( which just became eaisier through state law, despite Encinitas road blocks.). They also include other owner-occupied options. Yes, SOME developer friendly stuff but nothing like Encinitas. Unless, of course, the city is also run by developers. Encinitas will not be, you are at the point of dimishing returns. Studies have shown that investing in Republican politicians does not pay off.

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    6. 10:23,

      "such as low interest loans for updating granny flats."

      What cities?

      Name them.

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    7. 11:15

      Like ths one in Santa Cruz which has many similarities to Encinitas?
      http://www.ca-ilg.org/sustainability-case-story/santa-cruz-implements-granny-flat-program


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    8. 11:46,

      Here's all 259 pages of the SC approved housing element: http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/home/showdocument?id=53522

      "Providing new housing to accommodate projected employment and population growth and to meet the needs of existing residents is a major objective of the City. To that end, the Housing Element identifies “adequate” sites to accommodate the City’s share of the region’s housing needs from 2015-2023. Adequate sites are those with sufficient development and density standards, water and sewer services, and adequate infrastructure. The Vacant Land Inventory (Appendix B), in concert with an underutilized land survey (Appendix D), shows that housing can be accommodated on vacant land, underutilized sites along major corridors, in the Central Core, and on larger housing opportunity sites."

      Sounds familiar.

      And. . .

      "Recognizing the limited availability of land and the City’s commitment to preserve open space, the General Plan encourages a compact urban form. High density development, mixed uses, transit- and pedestrian-oriented land uses, and other creative housing types are encouraged. To that end, the City’s Zoning Ordinance currently allows higher densities, reduced parking requirements, and higher building heights for residential projects in the Central Core and along major corridors. The City also financially supports many of the projects in the Central Core. Since 2007, the City’s policies have facilitated more than 400 multifamily units and 70 single-room occupancy units in commercial districts. The City will continue to focus on mixed use to expand housing opportunities."

      And there is no low rate loan program for accessory units in the SC housing element.

      You know what they do have?

      R55. That's right. 55 unit per acre zoning.

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    9. Here's all 259 pages of the City of Santa Cruz' HCD certified Housing Element:

      http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/home/showdocument?id=53522

      It does not contain low interest loans for updating granny flats. Period.

      You know what it does contain? R-55 zoning. That's right--55 units per acre.

      It also contains language like this:

      "Providing new housing to accommodate projected employment and population growth and to meet the needs of existing residents is a major objective of the City. To that end, the Housing Element identifies 'adequate' sites to accommodate the City’s share of the region’s housing needs from 2015-2023.

      Adequate sites are those with sufficient development and density standards, water and sewer services, and adequate infrastructure. The Vacant Land Inventory (Appendix B), in concert with an underutilized land survey (Appendix D), shows that housing can be accommodated on vacant land, underutilized sites along major corridors, in the Central Core, and on larger housing opportunity sites."

      And this:

      "Recognizing the limited availability of land and the City’s commitment to preserve open space, the General Plan encourages a compact urban form. High density development, mixed uses, transit- and pedestrian-oriented land uses, and other creative housing types are encouraged. To that end, the City’s Zoning Ordinance currently allows higher densities, reduced parking requirements, and higher building heights for residential projects in the Central Core and along major corridors. The City also financially supports many of the projects in the Central Core. Since 2007, the City’s policies have facilitated more than 400 multifamily units and 70 single-room occupancy units in commercial districts. The City will continue to focus on mixed use to expand housing opportunities."

      If Santa Cruz is your example of a Housing Element you would support, then you should vote yes on Measure T.

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    10. two posts auto-deleted. Why?

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    11. Automatic spam filter. I rescued them.

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    12. So does the new state law concerning an extra unit count towards our allocation or not?

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    13. Santa Cruz is an example of a Granny flat program that has been used against the required number of units. Does not have to be in the HCD to be part of legal affordable housing.

      This all or nothing stance by you city folk is silly. A mixture of both owner occupied and developer hand outs would pass.

      Personally, I feel like it is picking between PB(every yard is an apt.) or Huntington Beach with stack and pack. A toned mixture of both with respect to lot lines, height, and set backs is all I want. The corrupt process will never allow that. May as well try to kick the can down the road for as long as possible until something breaks. Rather the city be broke than let corruption win and have to deal with three story BS.

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  43. $4 million dollar life guard tower and cops fort on the beach for bikini patrol. This City Council is totally out of control!!!

    Read the latest Encinitas Guerilla. Classic!!!

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    1. http://encinitasguerrilla.blogspot.com/

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    2. The Sheriffs need to walk a downtown beat on weekends. Putting them on the beach is pure fluff, as the lifeguards are the first responders. The Sheriff claimed under staffing issues, but can spare personnel on the sand? When was the last crime out break on the shores? The Moonlight Beach Taj Mahal is a testament to misguided spending priorities and over-staffing.

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  44. 10:09, if you believe that the language in Measure T that eliminates future resident votes "to stay compliant" doesn't circumvent Prop A, then I have a bridge to sell you.

    By inserting the 4/5 supermajority clause, gone now only because residents complained, the City showed its hand early on: get rid of the voter. Pretend you listen at "workshops" and "outreach," then get rid of the voter.

    Should Measure T pass, Prop A will have applied to this vote only; if Measure T passes, voters will have kissed their future votes goodbye. They'll watch helplessly as the City squeezes all other upzonings into "to stay compliant" decisions.

    There's a reason language stating the City will meet annually with developers to identify the next round of "infill opportunities" remains in the 230 pages of policy changes. Those developers will be the real and only stakeholders left as far as the City will be concerned.

    NO on T.

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    1. You are so confused.

      First you admit that the supermajority council uozoning is "gone now." As in, it's not included in the final version.

      Then you go on to claim that if the measure passes in its current form, the council will be able to avoid future voting on upzoning.

      Question: how will council be able to pull that off if the offending language is "gone now?"

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    2. There is more than one place the language was inserted, but I suspect you know that. For the City to think residents would believe the 4/5 was all that covered how/if we vote shows the usual attitude toward residents.

      We have been (sadly) trained by the City to know we need to read the fine print.

      You sound angry and not a little desperate. I'm hearing that tone a lot lately from certain Council and staff members :)

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    3. 2:30,

      Here's the part in the kabuki theater where I ask you to point us to the secret language undermining prop A, and you reply with any response other than a specific citation.

      Your turn.

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    4. I didn't post anything above. I did attend the first workshops on the HEU. I had discovered the Prop. A killer clause and pointed it out to Mike Strong. At first he denied it, but when I gave him the page number, he said the city would take it out. I then asked him why it was there in the first place. He had no answer.

      It was many, many months before it was taken out and only after public outcry, including on this blog. However, other things were left in, such as how height is measured. Under Prop. A it is from the natural grade or finished grade, whichever is lower, up to the eave of the roof. Under Measure T it will be measured from the midpoint of the finished grade up to the midpoint of the sloped roof. Doesn't sound like much, but it give an advantage to the developer which has nothing to do with state law. The result will be higher pads and more blocked views.

      Measure T DOES eliminate future votes to comply with future HEUs. It still allows a public vote on non-housing element upzoning. But how many of those will there be? With a RHNA number of 1093 Measure T upzones to 1987 units at minimum zoning (R-20) and 2979 units at maximum zoning (R-30). We will be approving or rejecting R-30, not R-20. Add in Density Bonus at 35%, approval will upzone for over 4000 units. The city calculates added traffic for condos or apartments at 6 daily car trips. This comes out to 24,000 more car trip per day or 8,760,000 per year, if all units are built. This is not trivial. I'm voting NO. We can get a better plan -- strip out all the language not required by the state, bring the upzoning down to what is only necessary, preserve future HEU voter approvals, and make transparent all details now buried in 230 pages. Also get rid of the silly AT HOME IN ENCINITAS zoning designations.

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    5. This measure is so corrupted, it is the Red Herring of the year. It is an outright gift to the developers - and all the current city council members support it. I will probably vote for 2 only, as there aren't three choices for city council.

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    6. I am voting for Tony Brandenburg since he is the only one who is opposed to Measure T. Measure T stinks!

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    7. Yes, Brandenberg gets my default vote since there are no other options, short of joke write-ins!

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    8. Pig E. Percent gets my write in!

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  45. Damn i hate this blog format. Just wrote a nice post with info on the new granny flat law with links etc. grabbed another link and BAM, all my work gone.

    I am not going to re write it but I will donate to WC to bring this blog out of the 90,s.

    One with auto correct, works on all browsers, and does not require super vision to click on store fronts.
    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/real-estate/sd-fi-granny-flats-20161003-story.html

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  46. Neighbors,
    On the Nov 8 election there are 2 seats opening on the Encinitas Union School District board. EUSD runs 9 elementary schools with about 5,000 children. This is important even if you do not have children in the district. The current board and superintendent have spent millions on non-academic and extra-curricular projects while ignoring the core curriculum and parents’ objections.
    Current Board member Patricia Sinay says she is running for re-election and that is false. She was never elected and was appointed by the current failed board to finish a term of a vacated seat. She votes yes 100% of the time as instructed.
    Rimga Viskanta is also running and she is currently Vice Chair of the Citizen Oversight Committee for Proposition P Bond fund. She was appointed to that post by this same Board to oversee the Board regarding spending of Prop P funds. When she actually attends a meeting which isn’t very often, she rubber stamps any spending proposed with no oversight whatsoever. We can assume she will continue that trend on the school board.
    Leslie Schneider and Ann Katherine Pingaree are both running for EUSD board seats and they are two well qualified and involved parents of students in the district who are committed to making sure your tax dollars are not wasted. They stand for fiscal responsibility and transparency. They will listen to us and put these children’s needs first for a change. Please Vote.

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