Wednesday, November 1, 2017

Council down to 2 district maps under consideration

Del Mar Times:
Either of the two maps would divide Encinitas into four districts with an at-large mayor. According to the submitter's comments on the city's website, one of the maps, titled "Citizen 15," would "Keep core communities in tact [and] give all four a stake in El Camino Real." The other map, "Citizen 16," would "Keep the core of communities together, cluster neighborhoods, and give three communities responsibility for the coast, El Camino Real and the Escondido Creek San Elijo Watershed," according to the submitter.

36 comments:

  1. I'll be voting no.

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  2. I'll be voting no. Why concede to some low life dumb ass lawyer with some baseless claim?

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  3. You won’t be voting at all, unless your name is Catherine, Tasha, Mark, Tony, or Joe.

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  4. Keeping an elected mayor is prudent. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this to be true. Rotating that seat became an abject failure and could be again, plus there are some council members that should never be allowed to sit in that mayors seat.

    If citizens have a genuine interest, they need to show up at city council meetings or watch at home. They would have the info that would preclude them from posting their uninformed positions, like the above.

    Why are we submitting to this demand from a Malibu shyster lawyer? That is easy. It is because we were targeted for not having an up to date housing element in place. That is what brought this lawyer to focus on us to begin with. He has ingrained himself into the state voting board through manipulating the process and has targeted certain well off towns that he hopes will fight him.

    Nothing he does will change the make up of city councils. He cares not. He relies on towns to fight him and lose big time for big bucks in his pocket.

    We now have a chance to resist, thanks to Poway fighting him. It is a wait and see opportunity for a short time, until that is resolved in the courts.

    There is also a case before the state in Sacramento over this that could be a benefit for us. Or not.

    One city spent over $10 million losing to this shyster. Some prudence by our council was a good thing. Nobody here wants to lose our sovereignty to this lawyer, but he has won before. That not every city in the state has to bend over for this, clearly shows certain towns are being targeted, while others get a free pass. His own town Malibu? Not a chance. They would run him out of town on a rail and he knows it.

    Please do inform yourselves about all the ramifications of this case that has upset all of us in the same way. Not being able to vote for all of our council members sucks. We will get two votes. One for mayor and one for whatever district we live in.



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    1. I've lived in Encinitas a long time, way before incorporation. An elected mayor is not necessarily prudent. I prefer a rotating mayor, as it diffuses power on the council. It's tiring to always see photos of the smiling mayor with the smiling Mosca and Boerner-Horvath.. There's the fixed council majority until the voters vote in someone new.

      Any problems with a rotating mayor are easily fixed with a codified procedure to follow. It would eliminate the shenanigan we had under Stocks, Bond, and Dalager. Even if the Poway lawsuit is successful, it seems unlikely Encinitas would go back to non-district voting. The mayor wouldn't allow a return to the old system. It's all about power and promoting a personal agenda.

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  5. The council does know their new maps change the entire General Plan.

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  6. 5:33- Can you expand? How does it change the general plan? And no, we don't get to vote on it. It is a done deal. Now it is just picking a map. Kranz argued loudly about how he did not want us to do this. However, unless we want to spend about 10 million dollars to fight it, we are screwed. And no, it was not because we didn't have a housing element in place. He has gone after almost every city in the State, including cities with in place housing elements. Oceanside did it, Carlsbad did it, and so on and so forth. Poway has found a loophole in the law, BUT there are going to have to pay big bucks if it doesn't pan out. If it does, then we could always go back to the way it is now. It's not the end of the world folks. I don't like being bullied by this lawyer, but he has won every case that has gone to court, so our chances would be pretty slim. Let's just do it and see how it goes.

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  7. Many of our commissions require a representative from each of our 5 communities. Council districts won't change this. If the General Plan doesn't require an election to change to districts you will have to explain what the maps do change.

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  8. 9:31- Does it say in out General Plan that there has to be a Commissioner in every community? I have never read it, and I know it isn't followed, except for the Planning Commission. What else is this violating.

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    1. The Traffic and Safety Commission also has district reps, in addition to "at large" representatives.

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  9. Where is the concentration of minorities in each of the proposed maps?

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    1. Doesn’t matter. Read the law.

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  10. Which district get the homeless??

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    1. They don't matter if they were not counted in the Census.

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    2. The Leucadia Roadside Park gets them.

      I've been seeing lots of them wasted and passed out on the steps by the 7-11 and the Red Box.

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    3. Cottonwood Creek and 7-11 in Encinitas are the bum capitol.

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    4. Noticed a lock on the port-a-potty at Roadside Park. Nice move, Gary.

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    5. Cottonwood Creep Park! Don't ever let your kids out of your site at that park, very sketchy dudes there lately.

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    6. Speaking of porta potties, there's on right next to the bathrooms at Moonlight, one at Swami's. Why not Beacon's Beach, where it is NEEDED. Oh yeah, right. As usual, Leucadia gets nada.

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  11. Fire dept wants to add a " fast response support vehicle " during peak hours. Really?? Really?? Wtf is that?? How much faster could it be than what we have now??
    More feel good nonsense by " first responders", err heros. Sucking at the govt test never ends...

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    1. “Oooooohhhhhh, you wanted the RAPID response from the fire department. We only quoted you for the slow response. See, now, the rapid response—that there costs extra.”

      [takes out calculator. Dons reading glasses and green poker visor.]

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  12. In many european cities that are riff with traffic problems, their paramedics ride motorcycles for a fast first response to medical calls. That would beat taking out the 100 foot aerial ladder truck. By the way, I think we cap our buildings at 30 feet. But if we ever get a 100 ft building the fireman can reach the top.

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    1. Lololollll lololollll lololollll lolo lololollll lololollll lololol lololollll.
      What a great way to start my day, with a good laugh. I've been to Europe many times and never seen the paramedic on a motorcycle routine you are talking about. As for our 100 foot ladder fire truck, you must have missed the part where the fire department stoped putting out house/building fires, now they let everything burn to the ground. Buy, thanks for the laugh. Oh wait, now I get it, you work for the Encinitas FD....

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    2. Hire the Flash! Maybe response time was gauged by how fast Muir got out of his chair in the day - probably needs recalibration.

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  13. Fire department fast response vehicle is a truck like the paramedics drive in LA. The truck will have a Captain and a paramedic that will cost $510,000 per year in salary and overtime. The fire department will need to lease some land to store some of the equipment.
    The paramedic truck will be stationed in Leucadia.

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    1. We citizens should demand that the entire city budget be placed in the hands of the fire department....they will get it anyway.

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    2. Has the current "response rate" proven to be detrimental to the situation they are responding to? Where do they come up with these ideas?

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  14. I watch the council tape of the mapping process. I was SHOCKED on how fast Cathleen, Tasha and Joe motioned to accepted maps 15 and 16 without much discussion. They obviously knew what they wanted!

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    1. Don't be shocked by how fast the council does anything, the fix is in the bag... every time.

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    2. I’m shocked someone named Cathleen was voting.

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    3. Brown Act violation, anyone? Don't tell me those three don't prearrange most of their votes.

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  15. I'm not sure I like the way our mayor operates. She pushes her own agenda and quickly dismisses ideas presented by other council members. It's basically, her way or the highway. I wish he would do something with her stringy greasy looking hair. It always looks dirty. Time for a spruce up, mayor.

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    1. 2:56 - You bring up some very interesting points. I'm sure we would all agree that the "stringy greasy hair" serves as the basis of her decision making, and any change to the overall appearance of her hair would fundamentally and drastically alter her decision process, resulting in a serious reassessment of the mayor's long term goal and objectives for the city.


      Tell me 2:56, do you watch Fox News much?

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  16. Error: I wish SHE, not he.

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