Tuesday, December 5, 2017

Democratic infighting over Assembly seat


When Councilwoman Tasha Boerner Horvath announced a run for Assembly, some local Democrats including Councilman Tony Kranz and former Councilwoman Lisa Shaffer had an unusually harsh reaction, apparently upset that Horvath would buck the party hierarchy and challenge the party's anointed candidate, activist Elizabeth Warren.

Still, she persisted.

Now colleagues and fellow Democrats Joe Mosca and Catherine Blakespear are rising to Horvath's defense.


Warren, though not well-known in Encinitas, is a long-time activist with Moveon.org, the PAC formed in 1998 to give former President Bill Clinton political cover against accusations of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and perjury.

37 comments:

  1. Lololollll lololol lololollll lolol.
    What a bunch of maroons.

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  2. The moron is you.

    What a maroon is, I cannot venture to guess, but his lowness has used that mischaracterization for years, our very own moron in residence.

    If only he could be marooned someplace far away from here. He is one of Muirs trolls and has been.

    Many of Muirs' supporters are not trolls, but he has a few hangers on, that regularly post here that are.

    Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas. It is a fact, no matter how he may try to clean up his act with a few positive votes recently that some are buying into.



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    1. https://youtu.be/ZruHfeUcNys

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    2. You don't find Blakespear, Horvath, Mosca, and Kranz flea ridden? If not, why not, 4:24?

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    3. 4:24- thanks for your opinion. Once again you show that those that scream for tolerance are the least tolerant of all.

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    4. Fleas are not something you tolerate. They are something you scratch.

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  3. At least Tasha is smart and honest. I have heard the Mayor and Tasha speak about how disappointed they are that nothing gets done in Encinitas unless your a new bar wanting approval. Its the laughing stock City at Sandag and called PB Norte.

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    1. Yup. Worst city in the county. Citizens need help at the front desks and staff in back partying.

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    2. Honest?? Seriously? Brown Act ring a bell? Pushing her own agenda in the face of resident opposition bother you not at all? Praising a lying staff to the skies - even after the lies are exposed - is that honest behavior?

      You must be observing a totally different Tasha.

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    3. Stop with the Brown Act bullshit. It makes you look stupid.

      In 65 years since passage of the Brown Act, there has not been a single successful prosecution for violation.

      If you were to have rock solid evidence of a violation (you don’t), the law calls for you to send a cease and desist letter documenting your evidence. At that point, the City can respond “My bad. Promise not to do it again” and the matter is over legally.

      Getting a parking ticket has more consequences.

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    4. Say It all you want Tasha, you are not smart or honest. You are, however, your own best cheerleader.

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    5. Wow 10:04, protest overmuch, much?

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    6. Watch the three barely discuss issues before voting in lockstep. Brown Act "bullshit", my ass.

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    7. I suggest you go to the Fair Political Practices Commission and tell them the Brown Act is being violated, and that your only “evidence” is that the duration of public debate doesn’t meet your personal standards.

      When they stop laughing, come back and tell us what the FPPC response was.

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    8. Complaints have been made to the FPPC. In most cases all that results is a slap on the hand of the Brown Act offender.

      At the same time as Prop. A was being written, a "Sunshine Ordinance" was written, but never got any further. An eighty page draft till exists. Among other things, the initiative would have required recording all closed sessions and then making public the recordings after a certain time period.

      The Brown Act doesn't require closed sessions on any subject. It only allows closed sessions on certain subject-- personnel discussions or real estate transactions, for example.

      Serial discussions are more difficult to police, even with a Sunshine Ordinance. For anyone closely watching Blakespear, Boerner-Horwath, and Mosca, there is prima facie evidence. The coordination is just too obvious.

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    9. 7:09, just curious: is your anger coming from the lack of Brown Act convictions, or directed at folks observing and believing the three have violated the Act? And finally: have you watched closely and not seen any behavior among them that might suggest pre-discussions among them?

      Honest questions.

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    10. Honest answer:

      The Brown Act is a poorly written and ineffective law. It’s meaningless, unenforceable, and accusing people of violations with real proof is pointless and lazy. Without proof, it’s just stupid.

      For people who actually want to make a difference, we should ban any reference to the Brown Act forever.

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    11. "We?" Who are "we?" The effectiveness of the law is beside the point. It's there, it's clearly laid out, and not referring to it only means the three will be more emboldened than ever to violate the law.

      Pretending the three aren't working behind the scenes, contrary to law, is not something I can agree to - but you go for it. Their behavior bothers me and a whole lot of other people - people who once supported Catherine and Tasha. Again, separate from the difficulty of enforcement, there are ethics issues here. And that bothers me.

      Legal enforcement aside, does their behavior not bother you, or do you not see what so many are talking about?

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    12. How does not referring to the law make a difference, 4:22? Explain that comment, please.

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  4. you say moron, i say maroon
    you say spit on, i say spittoon
    moron maroon
    spit on spittoon
    let's call the whole thing off

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  5. This is too easy. Elizabeth Warren is the only candidate that can take out Rocky. Just ignore Tasha and her supporters. I plan to.

    We need all the Elizabeth Warrens' we can find these days. Tasha's, not so much. We are stuck with her, unless her ambition leads her somewhere, anywhere else. I wouldn't put that out of consideration either.

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    1. Liz is a looney leftist. Not in line with the district. Does not understand basic economics. Tasha is a moderate. I can see myself voting for Rocky over Liz.

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  6. Who is this Trasha Burner Horsbath person people are talking about?

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  7. 2:03pm. mikey, your opinion on who your voting for is of no value, just as you are. Troll elsewhere.

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  8. Homeless swarming into Leucadia Roadside park. Yesterday homeless man with guitar confronting residents and businesses, threatening other homeless. Fighting over vodka bottle. Today two homeless have turned Park into a bicycle repair land. Currently 5 homeless confronting residents. Passing around alcohol.

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  9. Homeless taking over Leucadia Roadside park. 5 bums passing around booze, provoking and confronting residents.

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    1. Gary, "provoking and confronting" is your specialty.

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    2. Gary has nothing to do with it. Come to the park and observe....

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    3. I walk by the park every day. I rarely see people or trash in the park. The last time I saw a person Gary was yelling at him.Gary has a history of yelling and threatening people.

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    4. I don’t know who this Gary is, but he sounds like a dick.

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    5. Gary was instrumental in getting the city to fix the drainage problem on 101 in Leucadia. He wasn't afraid to speak strongly to the city council for their negligence, which included spending millions to fix the problem, but only making it worse. It was nicknamed the Pasco Fiasco after Pasco Engineering, who designed the solution that failed.

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    6. And who, inexplicably, are still the contractor of choice at city hall. After the Fiasco, any guesses as to why!

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  10. Homeless encampment at Leucadia Roadside park. Harassing 20+ year old girl.
    5 bums boozing.

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    1. You're a lying knob-shiner 12:33. Perhaps those that truly need a toilet and hand wash are interfering with your "fishing hole".
      Stop your ranting against the weak you cruel prick.

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    2. 6:58- you must work for the city or have a financial interest in porta potties. Nice....

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  11. So call the cops!

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  12. What cops. Encinitas doesn't have any cops? When is the last time you saw a cop on Encinitas Hwy101 giving out a ticket?

    6 years ago?, 10. years ago? It doesn't happen. Encinitas doesn't have any cops.

    All the cut through commuters speed through town all day long and don't have to worry about cops ever.

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