Saturday, December 9, 2017

Housing meeting next Saturday

City web site:
Joint City Council and Housing Element Task Force Meeting
Saturday, December 16, 2017 @ 8:30 AM - 12:30 PM

The City Council and Housing Element Task Force will hold a discussion regarding the Housing Element Update and associated analysis to achieve a state certified Housing Element Update.

Public is welcome to attend.

29 comments:

  1. This meeting sponsored by Shelter. Check their website to find the party bus stops nearest your house. The meeting will include loud music, bottle service, and a fun drinking game where everyone has to do a shot every time Muir says “as relates to.”

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  2. New senior assisted living building of 220,000 square feet proposed across from Lagoon.
    The Project is for Major Use Permit, Parcel Map Waiver, Design Review and Coastal Development Permit for a new senior residential care facility located at 3111 Manchester Avenue in Cardiff-by-the-Sea. The project site consists of two lots in a RR-2 zone and falls in the following classifications: coastal appeal, scenic/visual corridor, hillside/inland bluff overlay zone. The site totals 17.5 gross acres (15 net acres); Caltrans is in advanced stages of negotiations for a 2.5-acre easement on the western edge of the site. Proposed primary vehicular access to the site will be from Manchester Avenue, with potential secondary vehicular access from Via Poco. Vegetation consists of coastal sage brush along the north and northeastern border of the site. The facility is proposed two-stories in height, and will accommodate approximately 200 independent living, assisted living and memory care units. The size of the building is approximately 220,000 square feet with 65,000 square feet of common area and 187 parking spaces. Meeting on Monday, Dec. 11 from 6-7 at city hall.

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    1. The article in the Coast News says the developer is proposing to build an 85,800-square-foot, 101-bed facility on roughly 3.2 acres of largely agricultural land on the west side of El Camino Real near the intersection of Manchester Drive. Is this a different project?

      http://www.thecoastnews.com/2017/12/07/commission-considers-senior-housing-project/

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    2. Different project. The Coast News article refers to the Westmont project to the east of Mira Coast Cardiff campus. It has been approved. The new project is to the west of Mira Costa. It is the eastern most parcels of the Strawberry Fields.

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  3. City replacing perfectly good intersection crossing paint with new paint, meanwhile the city is being over run with homeless bums. Nice.

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  4. since we are all whining here...

    The last housing meeting I went to a few years ago felt like re-education camp. When that didn’t work a city guy tried to use Jedi mind tricks. ‘’these Are not the developer handouts you think they are’’ then waved his hand in front of me. It may have worked but the city guy was too short to reach my face.

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    1. The intent is to over-develop the area for maximum profit. "Affordable housing" is a myth.

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    2. Is the City Council complicit?

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    3. What do you think, 5:02? Stop fishing and tell us your opinion.

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    4. 5:02 asked you, 6:22. Cat got your tongue?

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    5. I didn't post above and don't owe an answer.

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  5. City removes porta pottie from Leucadia Roadside park yet leaves hand wash station.. apparently the hep A outbreak is over...what a bunch of maroons.

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  6. What a dumb ass move that was to put a porto potty in an area that the Community has been working on for years to clear out the sketchy bums. The worse impact for quality of life of local residents and property values.

    I would be so pissed if I lived near that park.

    What a waste and distraction from getting meaningful projects done. Again and again, Encinitas blows it. Please let vote on having Solana Beach annex Encinitas coastline.

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  7. Is this event an actual MEETING, or are they going to try to break everyone up into tables or have us fill in information online that will be later used against us??

    Can members of the public speak publicly?

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    1. You can speak publicly but no one at the city will listen and YES, it is a waste of your time. The fix is in and your not on the winning side. Vote NO!!!

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  8. Fix is in... hire development density more property tax more City Revenue.

    The more likely the City will be able to pay the $250k per year forever once this spastic (at best) City Manager gets fired or retires. Either can not happen fast enough.

    Council Member (Council M) - So City Manager I've noticed a slug problem down at moon light beach.

    City Manager ( City) - Really ?! Please explain!!

    Council M - Whelp, I saw two slugs at moon light beach and you know what they say about slugs right?

    City - Oh yes! I'll get right on it.

    Next day public works seen spraying entire area of moonlight beach with roundup iand nuke pesticide including little children and beach goers.

    Council M - WTF its going on? I had 8 people call me saying they are puking poison from being at the beach when some city guy started spraying roundup over everything and everyone.

    City M - OMG - Incompetent Staff!!! I will fire everyone. (Homer voice -Especially the ones that know I have no fricken idea what I am doing!)

    Pan out - Council M nodding. Wow Karen, you sure know how to manage an effective City staff.

    City M - Thank you so Much!!!! XOXOXX Can you pay me another $45k. per year please. You don't want be beaten by Escondido do you?

    Council M - OMG ... put on the next agenda. You will get your well deserved raise. Job well done. Keep up the great work!!!

    Council M - BTW- Is it possible to ever think about actually getting something done at the City?! Anything? Anything beside repainting a road?

    City - Oh I will get right on it. I will build those public restrooms for the homeless you mentioned. No need for public neighborhood meetings. They will just have nasty comments anyway.

    Council M - Excellent! Carry on Karen! You deserved that fat raise!!!


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    1. Gee Mike, why don't you explain why Vina was so much better.

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    2. not Mike, but Vina was terrible too. This City hires the worse City Manager ever.

      Let Solana Beach annex the coastal areas. There City Manager is way better than Encinitas's City Manager.

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  9. that is awesome. You could have followed with,

    "Well if you think I am awesome, maybe you give me an $80k raise per year. If you do, I will stroke your ego twice as hard as I currently do. Oh no worries, but the extra 80k will make me work towards your goals that much faster! Just sayin!"

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    1. Can you say Overpaid, Overpensioned?? Yup that's about sums it up. The great economic catastrophe can't happen soon enough. Bring these ayeholes back to the real world.

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  10. Just Vote No! Prop A still allows for citizens--not council to decide.

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    1. State law requires that all cities identify places and ways to build more housing. If Encinitas continues to thwart this then developers will continue to sue and win. Eventually a Judge can and will accept developer upzoning plans and invalidate Proposition A. A city plan can be better for us and the Saturday meeting is an opportunity for citizens to help shape the plan that we will then vote for or against.

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    2. 4:39 sounds like a pro-developer shill angry that Prop A and the voters got between him and a big deal.

      The commentary sounds just like that Eli Sanchez guy who posts on Encinitas Votes; there, as here, he tries to adopt a reasonable and knowledgeable tone, but instead falls short. Sanchez was with the San Diego "Centre City Development Corporation," and that business name says it all.

      Dude has no respect for resident wishes and believes we should roll over and let developers have their way here because "change is inevitable " or whatever BS it is he peddles in support of the BIA's position.

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  11. So how are the Cities like Carmel, Del Mar, Coronado, and Carpentria handling this issue?

    Don't let the pension hungry City Manager sell out beachy Encinitas to the developers for personal financial interest. Lets keep encnitas a nice beachy place, not Huntington Beach

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  12. Dude wants the task force to pray about not letting affordable housing get built on Quail Gardens Dr. He's good though with "10 custom homes." Talk about unclear on the purpose of the affordable housing requirement,

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  13. The real villains in this story are Planning Department and the various consultants who have made a fortune at the expense of the taxpayers. I can't believe I am quoting Mike Andreen, but he is correct in that this process started in 2009 and that this is the 4th attempt to pass a Housing Plan.

    What was not mentioned is that all they had to do the first time to bring us into compliance in 2010 was to read the Housing Element, make very small changes, and send it off! We could have been in compliance like every other city in the county, but it is not the Encinitas way do something the easy way when there are fortunes to be made and charged to tax payers.

    Teresa Barth came up with the wonderful idea of doing a complete General Plan Update "to keep planners busy" during the economic downturn when there was little development going on. There are some who would take the unconventional approach of laying them off when they had nothing to do, but not at Encinitas City Hall.

    We have spent millions of dollars on outside consultants while paying department planners six-figure salaries for a pattern of failed plans over nine years.

    Who is responsible for the fact that we are out of compliance? The inept planners, the various councils, and the consultants who have made millions. It is not the citizens fault since all we did was vote against their poor work and pay millions of dollars for consultants and planners.

    This has been a nine-year exercise of rewarding unprofessional behavior and incompetency on the part of the Encinitas Planning Department. Any other place and they would have been fired.

    Karen, are you listening?

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    1. Flaming torches and pitchforks!!!
      They have got to go. Millions in salaries and pensions and nothing to show for the money. Drain that swamp!! They need to go!!

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  14. Address your concerns with the new planning director Brenda. That is where the crap performance has resided for years.

    Hopefully, she is aware of how our community has suffered under her dept. and she will make some much needed changes with the senior planners that have sold out our town repeatedly.

    Pipedream? Sure, why not, at least until we see that nothing has changed, and it is business as usual with the new planning director.

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  15. I googled Brenda and learned she was the Planning lead for Newport Beach.

    Newport Beach is exactly the same shitty development like Huntington Beach that I deplore. It doesn't get any worse. Who the hell would hire someone that plans that kind of crap?

    Why didn't you just hire the planner for Oxnard or Oceanside?

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