... as told by commenters and observers. Please correct us if any of these are wrong.
- hired three new full-time firefighters and battalion chief paperwork guy.
- try to come back in July and get a 4/5 vote to close downtown bars at midnight.
- no action on red-light cameras.
10 News: Encinitas is becoming the new PB
Encinitas residents say their downtown is turning into a Pacific Beach-like atmosphere with partying and drinking spiraling out of control. On Wednesday night, they asked the Encinitas City Council to do something to fix it.
"It's dirty, it smells, people are foul-mouthed," one Encinitas resident told the council.
"Public urination, noise levels from people screaming and yelling in the parking areas. Drug use, activity, sales," said another.
Residents say public drunkenness has also become a major problem in the downtown area, leading to wild behavior that they want to see stopped.
"These people are now using my planter boxes as their bathrooms," said a resident. "It's not very nice when I go outside and say, 'Can you please not do that,' then they offer to fight me."
Where's the Sheriff? Let's get some enforcement. Perhaps we can rearrange schedules so those motorcycles work at night .
ReplyDelete"It's dirty,it smells, people are foul mouthed...."
ReplyDeleteTypical day in Leucadia with Greg the drunk about. Why should Leucadia be the only community to suffer because Enc council can't direct the sheriff to keep the neighborhood clean. Downtown, welcome to Leucadia's nightmare. We are glad to share with you.
Btw- the drunks, stoners, pukers, screamers, staggerers about, lowlifes,, shitters, pissers, creeps, exposers of their genitalia in public( it's not just the guys, right ladies) they add character to the community of downtown and Leucadia......at least that's what I've been told.
High density mixed use bring in the bars and vagrants. Before Pacific Station, small town. AFTER Pacific Station PB north, thanks Stocks and Bond
DeleteThank Pedr Norby
DeleteGreg died.
DeleteGreg the drunk is dead?? How?? Where??
DeleteA lady who works at the Leucadia 7-11 told me that, and I haven't seen him since. I'm guessing alcohol poisoning. Was told he was found at a park. Didn't hear which one. She was upset because someone came in 7-11 once angry at them because they wouldn't sell him beer. "He's already drunk" she told the person. Why some are more prone to alcoholism that others baffles me, but it's always a shame and a very hard habit to break, obviously.
DeleteDowntown is vibrant
ReplyDeleteThe belching and screaming make ir vibrant!
ReplyDeleteI feel so sad for people in the downtown area who chose to live there because formerly, it was a quiet and loveley area.
DeleteI am distressed that the Sheriff seems to be acting like a private security service for Gus Vina,(they escorted hime to meetings) yet they seem to be turning a blind eye to the needs of the citizens. Encinitas has become like a 3rd world dictatorship.
Word is Vina is recommending to the council he be given a limosine and security detail to escort him about town.............that is all he can tell them for now.................and the 5 blind mice nod in agreement.............welcome to Vinacinitas ! with Deputy second in command Bar Czar Pedr Norby and a soon to be announced Minister of Misinformation aptly called a 'Communication specialist'
DeleteIt's a great place for San elijo hills tweekers to hang.
ReplyDeleteCouncil is on the wrong path. Gaspar is CLUELESS and needs to go.
Next election -,clueless is gone. Bye. Bye- go get ur nails done with Jerome. Ur out!
Council needs to be cutting fire department budget, NOT increasing it!!!!
You council are responsible for the financial stability if are city. You all are blowing it BIGTIME!!!
What's the problem? Your unemployment benefits run out?
DeleteYou got it right, W.C.
ReplyDeleteThe council withered under the barrage of criticism from the public on the drinking problem downtown. Two residents of Pacific Beach added their powerful narrative about how the residents had waited too long there to deal with the problems of drunkenness, noise, DUIs, urinatation, and all the other problems of the "vibrant" night life in PB and urged strong, rapid action to deal with it in Encinitas before it was too late.
One of the last public speakers, Ex-council member Dennis Holz, lectured the council like school children and told them exactly what they needed to do. He was followed by Peder Norby, who had sat looking stunned for most of the public comments. He's the father of the "revitalized" downtown and the 101 czar, but couldn't quite admit that he had created a monster.
The shell-shocked council did the right thing. Why did a year pass while council, staff, city manager and DEMA twiddled their thumbs? It was an extremely agitated and well organized public that finally precipitated long- delayed council action.
Yet the council kicked the can down El Camino Real and only accepted the report on red light cameras. I guess dealing with more than one controversial issue in one evening is too much for this council.
Peder Norby is the High-Density Development Czar and the Late-Night Drunkenness Czar?
DeleteWhere does he find the time?
Bar Czar!
ReplyDeleteAnother added, "I don't like walking around with a bunch of drunk people. This is toxic to our kids."
ReplyDeleteWho is walking around with their kids late at night?
I guess the whining and complaining continues... always something.
Hey Anon 9:59. This goes beyond walking around at night! Some of these 'visitors' are breaking into houses and cars, driving, and performing lewd acts in peoples' yards. Do I want my children exposed to that--even if they are in the house? No way!
DeleteJust think of me as one of the whiners!
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DeleteAnon10:07_ This has gone on for years in Leucadia, why are you so concerned now?? Is it because it's like a disease that spreads from one community to another?? Well nothing will be done until these assholes are destroying Olivenhain, they the council will sit up right and decide to do something.
ReplyDeleteWe have our own problems in Olivenhain - especially Lone Jack! Empty Grey Goose and Glenlivett bottles strewn about amongst the tamale husks and horse manure. Maseratis, Bentleys and Ferraris parked hapazardly in barns next to 60 year old tractors. Serenaded with sweet corrida's in the morning only to turn into raging hip-hop parties at night. Loose horses and looser women (OK - not really but it just kinda fit) - anyway, the city council don't want to touch that!!!
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The good people of Olivenhain would just shoot 'em dead if this type of behavior happened there.
DeleteOlivenhain seems to always be a sacred cow. How about letting them take some of the heat for a while. I don't notice them standing up for Leucadia, or for that matter any other community in Encinitas unless it benefits them.
ReplyDeleteSince the Desert Rose issue, you have many sadder but wiser Olivenhain residents who know the score. I can vouch that there are people who care NOW.
DeleteWere we late to the party and uniformed about what happened in Leudadia, Cardiff, New Encinitas and Old Encinitas? You bet! Are there a group of us who want to protect the City now? No question!
Do Leucadia residents have justification to be mad at us? Yes! But we support you know!
Too little , too late. When you are plagued with homeless winos and bums perhaps you'll understand our problems. Here's an idea, ride one of your horses to Leucadia roadside park and hangout and watch.
Deleteweren't there some rather inebriated wanderers recently in town riding along the rail tracks with a 2 burros? I saw them in Cardiff
DeleteWhat the hell DID they do last night?
ReplyDeleteDump Barth!!
ReplyDeleteDump Gaspar!!
Dump Muir!!
The only smile Barth had all night was for Norby, who didn't seem to have any interest in controlling his runaway "revitalization and vibrancy" scheme for downtown until last night. He sat immobile for the entire meeting, completely expressionless, until time to perform for council. Enough already with revitalizing, which, by the way, he'd like nothing better than to bring to Leucadia...swap out what he called "blight" for the downtown nightlife? No, thanks!
ReplyDeleteThe sheriff talked about issuing warnings to bars for overcrowding beyond capacity. How about issuing the freaking TICKET without a warning? Then 3 warnings and a one-week or one-month suspension of business?
ReplyDeleteHis approach reminds one of those tedious parents who endlessly warn their kids, but never follow through. Do the kids have any incentive to shape up? No, and neither do bar owners.
The head of the enc sheriffs substation is worthless. She tells people they are not allowed to video public events. A clear violation of freedom of expression.
Deleteyou've been copblocked
DeleteBefore the Leucadian shut down for months, the bar hoppers on foot would vandalize businesses between there an Uncle Dukes. It was ALWAYS around closing time 2am. It was usually on "Ladie's night" when unlucky studs ended up with their buds on their way to the next whiskey bar. Whe it closed there was virtually no problems at all. Since it reopened and closes at midnight or earlier - still no problem.
ReplyDeleteCertainly it's a financial drag for a bar downtown to close at midnight, but it does solve a lot of problems everywhere else. And as I said before, it helps responsible alcoholics learn to start drinking earlier in the evening.
And I'm not going to be popular with that fella at city hall who keeps hammering the council to get rid of red light cameras. BUT. Someone ran the left turn red light at Enc. Blvd and El Camnino Real right in front of me last week. Fortuanately, I was still going slow enough approaching my green light to stop in time. The barage of flashing lights were a good warning something wasn't right - and I couldn't see the car till I got closer to the intersection, as a large semi truck was blocking my view of the person racing through that red light.
ReplyDeleteOn behalf of anyone who might have sailed through that intersection trusting the green light only to be rammed by the other car, I think every friggin red light in town should have a camera. It'll greatly help pay for pensions that need attention and help prevent more accidents by increase awareness. Roundabouts will never need red light cameras huh?
There is always a first, but I have to disagree with Fred on this one. I am with George on this issue. The city needs to find some honest way to increase its revenues.
DeleteThese lights make me very nervous when I approach them. I would rather take the risk to jump on my breaks at the risk of being rear ended rather than risk a $500 ticket.
Intersections should make you nervous. Over 1000 deaths at them occurred in the US last year.
DeleteWell, looks like online you can find pros and cons for red light cameras. But seems to me, Insurance companies would have the most accurate perspective, prefering to pay out the least amounts their clients so it would stand to reason with me they would endorse which is really safer and what would cause less crashes / fatalities. Some interesting statistics on their site....
Deletehttp://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/rlr.aspx
I'm curious if George would prefer the red light cameras at the El Camino Real / Enc. Blvd intersection instead of one roundabout if one could go there? Afterall, wouldn't a roundabout cost less; eliminate cameras; eliminate red lights, increase circulation, safety, air quality and look 1000 times better?
The urinators and defecators work near the beach too - they use parking insets as their toilets, in spite of the public restrooms at Moonlight Beach. The D and C St. observation points are now party centers, where the alcoholic behavior makes it non-family friendly after dark.
ReplyDeleteYou mean there are toilets at moonlight beach??? Wow!! We Leucadians don't get so much as a porta pottie as stone steps, beacons or grand view. You guys are lucky, we just piss and shit on the beach or in the ocean.
DeleteWho wants to walk all the way to Moonlight when you are plastered? Any bush would do, right?
DeleteI can't remember ever drinking at a bar until 2:00 a.m.
ReplyDeleteNeither can I. It usually goes all fuzzy after about 12:30.
DeleteWCV
Leucadians usually dump in their shorts...
ReplyDeletePut a picture of Gaspar, Barth and Shaffer over the bar - that'd empty the places out early. Coyote ugly!
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