Monday, July 18, 2016

Questions on Blakespear's Working Group Switcheroo

Cardiff's Julie Thunder in a letter in the Seaside Courier:
Dear members of the Encinitas City Council, City Manager, and City Attorney,

I have painstakingly reviewed the video minutes from your July 13th special meeting, and I have some questions for you.

(For the following, I will reference the video with time stamp markers. You can watch the video at http://encinitas.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=1348.)

A few months ago, Councilmember Blakespear suggested a 15-member "citizens working group" for planning within our City's rail corridor. The City hired a consultant to select 15 people from the 40-plus applications that were received. The consultant did its part, and all applicants were notified of the final list several days prior to this Special Meeting by our Acting Director of Planning, Manjeet Ranu. Those of us at NoRailTrail were satisfied with this list as it seemed to be an even and fair distribution of citizens from our City.

Watching the video of the special meeting, it begins with City Staff presenting the Council's criteria for applicant selection and the already published list of the 15 selected Working Group members.

But, during the public comments, we quickly learned that Blakespear has worked with at least one other stakeholder group to create her own list of criteria and her own Working Group list.

Public speaker Kathleen Lees of Leucadia Town Council spills the beans at 06:55, "Leucadia Town Council reviewed all the applications for the working group and we wholeheartedly support the list Catherine has put together."



Question No. 1: Councilmember Blakespear, were any other groups asked to consult about this 'private' list? For the record, NoRailTrail has had a major impact in this issue and was never consulted.

Later in the meeting, Blakespear formally introduces her list (15:26), saying,"I've put together an alternate list based on different criteria."

After some back and forth with several council members, Councilmember Muir asks Blakespear if she consulted with any other groups about her list. At 24:25 Blakespear says "I was trying to avoid gossiping and lobbying. Last night I got an email from Kathleen Lees that said. 'We need to come up with our coordinated response.’ So I called her and I said I'm going to let you know who's on the list but it's private."

Question No. 2: Mayor Gaspar, you and Councilmember Muir seemed surprised by the introduction of the new criteria and list. Were you consulted about the Blakespear list? And, is our City now being run by making private back-room deals?

Question No. 3: Councilmembers Kranz and Shaffer, neither of you seemed surprised about the new list, in fact you both voted for it with little or no scrutiny. Did you know about this list prior to the meeting? Were you involved in the selection of the new list members?

Question No. 4: Councilmember Blakespear, the eight people who were picked by the consultant that you removed are listed below. Please explain why you believe each person needed to be removed.

Removed by Blakespear

1. Robert Stefanico — Encinitas Historical Society

2. Mary Anne Penton — Leucadia Town Council

3. Bob Gattinella — Encinitas Chamber of Commerce

4. David Painter — Cardiff Elementary Safe Routes to Schools

5. Barry Lindgren — San Elijo Lagoon Conservancy

6. Julie Parker — Cardiff School District

7. Jerome Stocks — Regional/Rail Planning

8. Richard Risner — Landscape Architect / No Rail Trail

The people Blakespear added to replace the above:

1. Chris Swanner — No Rail Trail

2. Jody Hubbard — Yes Rail Trail

3. Judy Berlfein — Yes Rail Trail/Bike Walk

4. William Morrison — Leucadia Town Council

5. Robert Hemphil — Engaged Citizen

6. Brian Grover — Traffic Commission/BIKE WALK

7. Greg Drakos — Planning Commission

8. Joy Lyndes — Environmental Commission

Note: The last three from Blakespear´s list were changed to ex-officio (non voting) at the end of the meeting by the rest of Council because they are City Commissioners. But their slots have not been replaced. Also, I have not listed the seven citizens who are in both lists.

Question No. 5: City Manager Brust, how much did the City pay for the consultant's time to create the Working Group List that was discarded by councilmembers Blakespear, Kranz, and Shaffer?

To conclude, I am deeply disappointed at the way this was handled, and I'm hoping my questions will be answered quickly.

Sincerely,

Julie Thunder

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    1. Welcome to the real world Catherine, where political favoritism is not an entitlement of a family legacy. Note to Encinitas Undercover -- the mayoral race is now wide open to anyone not tainted by the Blakespear/Shaffer/Barth contagion. Convicted felons are welcome, seeing as you probably have more conviction and integrity than the ladies now stirring the political pot.

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  2. Nicely done, Julie!

    - The Sculpin

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  3. I watched that meeting and felt it was a very back handed way to do business. Why does Blakespear feel she is superior to the other council members. I got the feeling that Shaffer and Krantz were part of putting her little list together.

    I have seen Blakespear operate in this fashion in the past and I don't like her style. I can only imagine what it will be like if she gets elected mayor.

    In total, Blakespear thinks way too highly herself.

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    1. Blakespear has an agenda - she has her cadre to accommodate. She is unfit for Mayor.

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  4. I suspect the request for information will be stonewalled. Recall Blakespear.

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  5. I thought Commissioners could not be on this list? Is that not true? I remember asking about John Gjata, who applied but did not get selected. The response was 'he is a commissioner so he can't be on this committee". What gives?

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    1. 5:13- If you read to the end of Julie's letter you will see they were taken off, but they were not replaced. I wonder why they haven't been replaced?

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    2. Council directed that each commission appoint a representative instead of depending on which commissioner submitted an application. Each appointee then represents the whole commission in an ex-officio capacity. This goes for all commissions not just the three originally listed.

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    3. 5:57- except not all commissions are represented. Parks and Rec. is not. Nor is the senior commission or the youth commission.

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    4. 7:11 PM

      What part of "Council directed that each commission appoint a representative" did you not understand. At their next meeting, each commission is to appoint one of their members to represent that commission. The commissioners will vote on the person to represent them and until they do the name will not be on the list.

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    5. 7:29- I am trying to learn so please try not to be so snarky. How come their are already Commissioners on the list. Have they met and decided? I thought the list was made public just last week. So how could 3 commissioners already be on it if the Council directed it at that meeting. Totally confused. Also, I forgot the art commission is not on it.

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    6. 9:25 PM

      Sorry that I was a bit snarky. The three commissioners originally on the list submitted their applications as individuals not as representatives of their respective commissions. Commissioners have the right to act as private citizens as long as they don't pretend to represent the whole commission.

      I guess the original guidelines disqualified any commissioners. However, the final action taken last Wednesday night by the council directed each commission to formally nominate one of their members to be an ex-officio member of the stakeholder group. I'll wager that each of the three commissions nominate the commissioner who originally applied but they don't have to. The other commissions will have to choose someone new.

      Did that help?

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    7. 9:24- Yes it did. Thank you.

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  6. Back on May 18 when the council approved the Parsons Brinckerhoff (PB) contact and directed PB to recommend the final makeup of the stakeholder group the only additional criteria discussed with PB to use selecting the members was familiarity with the use of the corridor as a local. So using the original criteria and the one additional local knowledge aspect, PB came up with their list. If the council wanted a different result they should have given PB better direction instead of presenting an alternative list at the meeting. It just looks like they're flying by the seat of their pants.

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    1. The criteria you mention, "familiarity with the use of the corridor as a local," is the opposite of what Catherine Blakespear now supports. She has surreptitiously morphed this group into another official committee manned by political appointees (several of which are current and former campaign donors) representing various Encinitas boroughs, and in the process she has gutted its grassroots intent.

      I'm not implying that the boroughs of Encinitas aren't entitled to a say in city affairs -- quite the opposite -- but that was why the group was supposed to serve in an unofficial advisory capacity and be comprised of affected locals, much the way local Olivenhain residents might have an appreciation for their local culture and have unique views on how development might proceed there. Cardiff was broken up over the Rail Trail dispute, and the politicization of this group, which could have mended some fences here, has only devolved into a collection of special interests keen on carving up and exerting influence over a larger fiefdom.

      Blakespear blew it. She is a political clown and should not only suffer mayoral defeat, she should be shown the door. Shaffer and Kranz, who knew all about this, should be escorted out with her.

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    2. 12:15 PM

      Before I wrote at 5:51 PM, I went back and watched the video. And while I paraphrased what Blakespear said, that was the gist of it as best as I could make out. Whether Blakespear's action matches her words I'll let others decide.

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  7. Julie naively asks the question "...is our City now being run by making private back-room deals?"

    I was not aware it worked any other way. How many orchestrated Planning Commission and City Council meetings have there been? Answer: too many. And on the big ones: pretty much all.

    Notice how questions are prepped for "staff": "So, what you're telling me is that by doing it as staff recommends, we will actually be better off?"

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    1. 6:08 PM

      Please show us what you mean by "orchestrated".

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    2. Please watch a video and notice the preplanned call and response. Pick a video with a hotly-contested project at stake. Look at Balour. Look at Hymettus. Listen to the exchanges between council and counsel on the HEU.

      Ask a council member whether he/she has ever been told they "had" to vote for something, then did. I have. They have.

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    3. If you mean by "had" to vote on something because doing so followed the law then I would say I've seen it. If you mean they voted because there was some "backroom" deal then I'd say I haven't seen it.

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    4. That was not how the council person explained it to me. The person later regretted the vote.

      Many others have remarked on the set-up quality of exchanges between staff and council, and I don't mean just Gus' "28 identified activists." I've heard first-time attendees shocked by what they perceived to be collusion, no other word for it.

      Why is it you don't see it? Peering in from the other side of the looking glass?

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    5. 9:09 PM

      Without identifying the councilperson, what item did they regret voting for? I assume it was a yea and not a nay vote.

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  8. Part of Blakespear's rationale in choosing people who are in groups like Main Street and town councils is that they would get input from and report back to members, thereby broadening participation.

    Yet, two of the people on Blakespear's list are "engaged citizens" who are not in groups. Does anybody know those "engaged citizens," and have they ever participated in any way in city affairs?

    Should "stakeholders" have any more input than average Joe and Joanne citizens? What makes anybody a "stakeholder?" To be one, do you have to be on the city dole or provide an extraordinary amount of revenue to the city?

    A principal purpose of the collusion that produced Blakespear's list was to ensure Jerome Stocks wouldn't be in the group. So that's the benefit.

    Does anybody doubt the Brown Act was violated in the production of the list?

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    1. 6:38- I don't know enough about the Brown Act. Could you please share why you think it was violated? Thanks.

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    2. A majority is three, so no more than two council members can talk city business with each other, nor can they talk serially.

      54952.2. (a) As used in this chapter, "meeting" means any congregation of a majority of the members of a legislative body at
      the same time and location, including teleconference location as permitted by Section 54953, to hear, discuss, deliberate, or take action on any item that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body.
      (b) (1) A majority of the members of a legislative body shall not, outside a meeting authorized by this chapter, use a series of
      communications of any kind, directly or through intermediaries, to discuss, deliberate, or take action on any item of business that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body.

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    3. I am sure Blakespear was smart enough not to engage three members of the council in one setting. She probably spoke with Shaffer, then separately spoke with Krantz to apprise them of how it was going down, including any suggestions they might have to be on the "preferred" list.

      As far as I see it, the citizens of Encinitas are all "stakeholders" in this project.

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    4. Do you know what "serially" means?

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    5. 8:37 Sure do. One right after the other. BUT, and this is a BIG BUT, someone has to prove it was done serially. Do you honestly believe those three are going to admit to any wrong doing? I didn't think so.

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    6. Right. Kranz, Shaffer and Blakespear are going to stand up and say they violated the Brown Act. Of course not. That's the point!

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    7. The City Attorney rather routinely sends out memos to Council. This is "treading the line." Technically, council members aren't discussing the memos, or deliberating with one another outside of the meetings. The courts have enabled this weakening of the Brown Act through memos and staff meetings, where "no action is taken" by council. Council members should be discussing city business at open, noticed meetings. But individual members are allowed to meet with various groups or individuals to discuss city business

      To me, the list is off-putting because it puts special interests stakeholders above local residents. Catherine Blakespear is allowed to make some independent decisions (contrary to consultants' recommendations) and to propose an independent direction. The consultant politicized the list by putting Jerome Stocks on it. He is a political figure, disliked by many activists. He served his time; most of us definitely don't want his involvement as an elected or appointed official anymore. We can't prevent his involvement in PACs.

      Julie's questions to Council and the City Attorney can't be answered/discussed by Council unless they are agendized for a noticed public meeting.

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  9. How much public money did Blakespear waste on Parsons?

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  10. Meanwhile as our corrupt council keeps up the charade have you noticed the new building projects shoehorned in behind homes in Leucadia? Looks like three new ones and talk about out of character! Look at access and cringe, how many of these are already approved I wonder? Leucadia is getting royalty screwed!

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    1. Are you talking about the ones next to O'Hurleys? Imagine the front door of your house facing that alley and dumpsters and the "well behaved" late night bar crowd.

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  11. Blakespear is the best one on City Council. The others are sell outs.

    All knew council persons plus Blakespear as Mayor!!!

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    1. 10:12 It's slim pickings for sure.

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      No Blakespear. Kick Blakespear out of office.
      She is as devious as they come.

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      You'll have to wait two more years. Even if she loses the mayoral race she still has her council seat.

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    4. 10:12 Thus speaks Judy Berlfein.

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  12. The original list was developer friendly. Stocks was wrong for so many reasons. Two people from Encinitas Chamber (this is the Mike Andreen's group). Did Manjeet tell the consultant who to put on the list? Who told him? I would like to see who is communicating with city staff. The new list has a dedicated No Rail Trail person on it and dumps Stocks. That makes it better.

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    1. The New Encinitas Network is Andreen's group. Andreen left the Encinitas Chamber of Commerce a few years ago.

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    2. Under a cloud of suspicion regarding missing funds. A very dark and large cloud.

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  13. 8:28- I am as happy as the next person that Jerome was removed. Catherine's original explanation was he was on the NCTD and SANDAG. I guess she wasn't paying a lot of attention to Encinitas politics before she ran.Anyone who has been here any length of time, and has paid attention, knows what a horrible Council person Jerome was. Because of he and his cronies, a 35% increase in pensions was added to the city obligations. However, Risner, who is a landscape architect was removed and Swanner put on. They are friends, and even Swanner says Risner is a better choice. I have no idea how this new list came to be and what criterion were used. I watched the fiasco and when Kathleen Lee from the Leucadia Town COuncil shared the new list before it was even mentioned spoke volumes to me. Check out who was removed and who they replaced it with. Disappointing is the most moderate word I can think of, again with the exception of Stocks. I can understand how the consultant included him, as he looks good on paper. However, Kristin should have taken lead on removing him, as he is head of her and her husband's, PAC. Doesn't get much cozier than that. Adding to that Paul Gaspar will also be running for Mayor, so I wonder how many folks on that list were also picked by Paul?

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    1. Gaspars are a total sell-out; they know they will be rewarded by doing the bidding of the Doug Manchester types, who own this area by buying the public officials. It shows how uninformed the general electorate is, if this puppet stooge even has a remote shot at public office.

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    2. 11:20 Thank you, Teresa Barth, for your partisan and totally unsubstantiated post. What's that I hear?... why, it sounds like a grove of fruit trees just begging for water! Scurry now and provide vital sustenance to your trees TB.

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  14. Catherine and Lisa and Tony are bigots as they are intolerant of conservative American-First values and a person that has earned more votes in US history that any other candidate EVER. The Donald's coming folks, and all of you 60-something neo hippies are going to have to eat humble pie. You ruined our country by drinking the Cultural marxist's Kool-Aid and now we're going to take some of it back.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/08/donald-trump-got-the-most-votes-in-gop-primary-history-a-historic-number-of-people-voted-against-him-too/

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    1. Back to the discussion at hand, with Shaffer cozy now with SANDAG, what kind of influence is going behind the scenes there?

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    2. 10:50 AM Proof that the Brown Shirt mentality is alive and well in America. These sheep flock to their false messiah and will be shorn in the process. Trump is a tunnel-visioned, attention deficited bigot - preying on the vulnerabilities of the feeble minded. If he is elected, the American experience will take a tragic turn.

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    3. Make America Great Again ! The rule of law applied equally to all. The reinstatement of Glass Stegal, secure borders leaving more tax dollars to benefit all taxpayers and legal citizens, an end to cronyism run wild under the Bush, Clinton, dynasties, an end to the lies of Bush Clinton Obama and the destabalization of the middle east, an A President that puts the American an citizens interest before the unelected global elites. Trump, a leader not a follower, a man who speaks the truth, not what is comfortable. Trump, a leader who opposed TPP and the continued destruction of the American workers and the offact shoring of manufacturing. Crooked Hillary- queen of lies and self-interest profiteering.

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    4. What about hippies of all ages, along with punks, dopers, burnouts and surf bums?

      Sounds like elections season is heating up.

      -MGJ

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  15. Paul GASpar will be running for mayor? God help all of us if that should happen.

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    1. Thank God. If Paul runs, at least there will be one reasonable person to vote for. Blakespear lacks the temperament, poise and integrity to assume that office or, for that matter, the office of city dog catcher.

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    2. 12:35 I see you are GASpar lovers. Apparently, you don't mind that these people tell lies and are in bed with developers. Just goes to prove that people like you are easily duped.

      We do not need any more GASpar frame of mind ($tock$ puppets) serving our city.

      Is the GASpar business in trouble that they need to start taking money from the taxpayers???

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    3. 1:06 You can jump to assumptions, given that you have nothing else to substantiate your point, but the fact of the matter is that I'd vote for just about anybody else if the only other choice is Catherine Blakespear. We can nitpick and tear apart any person in this town for their beliefs, business dealings or choice of friends. Nobody is immune. But given a choice between Paul Gaspar and Catherine Blakespear based on what I know about each (which is enough)? "Here's your office, Mayor Gaspar ... please put together a list of stationary and other items you'll be needing."

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    4. 1:24 You seem so jealous of Catherine Blakespear. In either case, your choice of Gaspar defines who you are. I would bet you also have a friend named $tock$. You are beginning to give yourself away with your comments.

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    5. Actually, 2:00, a lot of folks who you'd think would support Blakespear no longer do. Her votes and authoritarian manner with speakers, her tail trail fiasco are too much to stomach.

      Add her signature, along with Kranz and Shaffer, guaranteeing the BIA an adopted - not voted on, but adopted - HEU regardless of the outcome of the vote is disgusting.

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    6. 2:00 You seem so jealous of Gaspar (Kristin, Paul, both, does it matter?). Why? Because your choice in Blakespear defines who you are. How does this make any sense? Beats me ... you're the one to apply such logic in the first place, so maybe it makes sense to you.

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    7. 4:23 My choice is not with Blakespear and certainly not with the GASpars. We need some new blood on council, but Blakespear will be with us for at least two more years no matter what.

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    8. 4:32 Two more years you say? Perhaps, assuming no upstanding Encinitas citizen starts a recall campaign. But let's deal with what we know: Mayor Gaspar is leaving and I have yet to hear of a Paul Gaspar for Mayor announcement. Blakespear along with her baggage of Barth/Shaffer disciples and gross incompetence aspires to higher office when she is unfit to serve out the council seat she already occupies.

      I enthusiastically agree that new blood is desperately needed on the council, but Catherine's campaign combined with Tasha Boerner Horváth's council run make our local politics look like a Mayberry version of the Bush/Clinton dynasties.

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  16. 10:56- That's the word on the street. I guess only time will tell. Anyone know if anyone pulled papers yesterday?

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  17. Julie opens her Thunder-hole yet again.

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    1. 12:38 It seems to me Julie Thunder is asking important and relevant questions that go straight to the heart of how city affairs and the influence of special interests are managed by elected officials. The open and flapping pie-hole in this case appears to your's and your's alone.

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    2. 1:28 your's???? Are you sure that is correct?

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    3. 1:55 Deflect much?

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  18. If Council had voted to accept the consultant slate, including Stocks, this group would be whining and complaining.

    Changes were made--Stocks removed--and there's whining and complaining.

    Some people are just wired to be unhappy.

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    1. 12:44 No one would ever complain that Stocks was booted from the list. We are all rejoicing.

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    2. Meh, the whole list is a politicized joke. Those on it will likely regret it, and those who pulled strings with Catherine to add their names are going to experience a lot of unwanted humiliation in this blog very soon.

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  19. Mayor Julie Thunder come on down. Even a council seat would be vast improvement over any of the declared candidates. As you have found, Catherine cannot be depended upon to defend this community. None of the others can either.

    Ask any candidate if they will fight to keep the railtrail on the 101 where it belongs.

    Ask any candidate if they will fight to trench the tracks. Recently I spoke to Dave Roberts and he asked me what I would want help with. As we were standing near a train crossing and train had just gone by, I held out my arms and said trench to the tracks. His response was without our council members asking for it, there was little he could do. There lies the rub. Solana Beach got theirs. Carlsbad will be getting theirs. Encinitas, don't hold your breath.

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    1. Dave Roberts is ducking the issue. Has he ever raised it at an Encinitas City Council meeting?

      Trenching the tracks solves all the rail corridor problems.

      Put ramps from rim to rim like the one at the Solana Amtrak station through the length of the Encinitas corridor to coordinate with ped/bike-activated crossings across 101.

      The funding comes out of the $6.5 billion SANDAG will spend in the North Coast transportation corridor through 2040.

      Doubling the tracks but not trenching them will be a nightmare forever.

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    2. You have to have Federal funds to trench the tracks. SB was able to do it by pushing for the money in the early 90's. Our leaders missed the boat.

      Right now, there is no money for trenching, period.

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    3. I don't know if the people making these comments just haven't seen past posts explaining the situation, are forgetful, or just refusing to accept it.

      Solana Beach was able to lower the tracks because they agreed to the new Coaster station, after Del Mar refused, on the condition that the tracks were lowered under Lomas Santa Fe Dr. so trains stopped at the station wouldn't block traffic and emergency access.

      They were able to secure a large federal grant to pay for it. Amtrak then decided to move from Del Mar to Solana Beach. Those large grants have mostly dried up.

      Lowering the tracks at Leucadia Blvd is in the regional transportation plan but scheduled years away and no money identified to do it. Other than the crossing at Chesterfield, there is no reason to spend many millions of dollars so that Cardiff residents can walk straight to the beach. Lowering the tracks through downtown would be outrageously expensive and a construction nightmare as they would have to reverse Encinitas Blvd from currently going under the tracks to over the tracks (trench). Since congress doesn't do earmarks anymore, grants for dubious projects like the "bridge to nowhere" rarely happen. Stop aggravating yourselves and give up this pipe dream. We'll be lucky to get them to trench the tracks someday under Leucadia Blvd. I won't be holding my breath.

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  20. Ask any candidate if they will fight to defend Prop A . As we all found out the hard way, every current council member turned their back on this community and sought to do away with Prop A.

    Ask any candidate if they will fight to prevent our public treasures from being sold off, just so some deep pockets can self aggrandize themselves with their name on OUR public treasures that our taxes paid for. We have our city monuments and the Encinitas Library should not be for sale by a council who is here temporarily, some less than others.

    Ask any candidate if they will continue to settle with the Meyer and BIA types while choosing to fight the residents on a density development that couldn't be more inappropriate for one neighborhood that could just as easily show up next door to you.

    I am afraid none of these ask any candidate questions will come as a surprise answer. We already know where they stand.

    Bring on some new blood and in enough numbers to form a majority.

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    1. The city council in Del Mar is resisting citizen attempts to put local development issues to a public referendum. Notice the trend? Every city council in this region is bought by the developers and big monied interests. Stories had it that Doug Manchester got to Kranze shortly after his election. These local yokels are taught how to "play ball" and to anticipate the "appreciation" that ensues.

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  21. I would like to see another candidate besides Blakespear and Gaspar.

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  22. Kristin Gaspar is not running for a council seat in Encinitas. She's running for county supervisor against incumbent Dave Roberts.

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    1. According to the posts above, Paul Gaspar will also run for mayor besides Catherine Blakespear.

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    2. Paul Gaspar is definitely running for Mayor. Rumors as to who else are still a bit sketchy. Will let you know more when potential contenders pull papers. Wouldn't be too surprised if Stocks pulls papers, as well as Liz Ecke.

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    3. Anybody can see who has filed candidate papers by checking the city clerk's page and clicking on "here" here:

      http://www.ci.encinitas.ca.us/index.aspx?page=119

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    4. This is the page to check:

      http://archive.ci.encinitas.ca.us/weblink8/browse.aspx?startid=632517

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    5. $tock$ would be hilarious... come on fat boy.....

      We double dog dare you!!!!

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    6. I thought Dr. Lorri was going to sue him? Go for it!

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    7. Who says she isn't?

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    8. Paul Gaspar running for Mayor - the blind leading the blind. But the wife got in wearing a Wonder Woman costume, so the bar is very low - in fact, it's missing! At the very least, he gets publicity for his hack business.

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    9. I think that both sides of this blog need to grow up and cut the crap with the name calling and unsubstantiated accusations. It's pathetic and does nothing to change minds.
      The Cabezon

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    10. 1:17 You could have kept that comment to yourself. Follow your own advice.

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    11. 1:17 PM It is a lively discussion. Who are you - Mother Teresa? Contrary to your opinion, it has changed my mind on occasion.

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    12. 4:55 - no - he's a fish! But he's right. And if that's the kind of discussion that changes your mind (on occasion), heaven help us all at the ballot box.......

      - The Sculpin

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  23. Dr. Lori has no case and no backbone. She makes a lot of noise and idle threats. She also seems to have a tenuous relationship with the truth. She won't sue anyone or run for any office.

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  24. Council meeting tonight. What nonsense will spill from their mouths?? What idiotic positions will they take?? How much monies will they spend that we don't have?? What lies will they tell??

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  25. Rest assured, it will be a continuation of Up Yours Encinitas.

    Will they ever wake up and stop thanking Manjeet and his dept. week after week while their public sits dumbfounded at the unending poor performance that they allow? Of course they won't.

    This year feels like it is getting longer and longer as council sticks it to us all by wasting valuable dollars on a plan that is doomed to fail and that could actually do some good elsewhere, like our roads or any other number of critical issues that are needed.

    Up Yours Planning. Up Yours Council. A new day is coming sooner you all think.

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  26. You mean November 8 when it passes? I could care less if it does or doesn't, but card deck against no sayers until they have a little more than mud to throw at administrators.

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  27. 6:22 Post again when you're sober.

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  28. Will someone from the Prop A team run against El Senor Gaspar or Madame Blakespeare? What ever happened to Lerch?

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  29. Yes 3:22pm, many of us are hopeful some defenders will declare in the remaining few weeks left to step up.

    Lerch was a plant by those from who we don't need any more of and that we have too many of already running.

    Slim pickens sic, at the moment, but I have faith there will be candidates, plural, we can count on to not sell us out like the many who have done just that in the recent past.

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    1. What's stopping you?

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  30. I want crazy Cameron to run. That would be fun!!

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  31. 8:09pm Mikey, give it a rest. You are as slimy as they come and sure seem to be fixated on a citizen who actually served this city like you never did.

    Grow up! Your juvenile inner person has taken over your life. You are delusional in ever thinking you had any stature in this community with anyone but we all know who. You would naturally gravitate to a fellow cretin who abused his position until he was tossed out.

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