Thursday, November 3, 2016

Measure T: Know before you vote!

We've heard the city council's arguments that Measure T is the best plan they could come up with and we'll get sued more if we vote no.

It behooves us to be informed voters and hear both sides of the argument before voting.

From the No on T folks:
Watch these 4 short videos that explain the main issues with Measure T:

Measure T overview – http://vimeo.com/189479622

Building height under Measure T – http://vimeo.com/189478755

Location of Measure T upzoning – http://vimeo.com/189479275

Lawsuit threats and Measure T – http://vimeo.com/189480676
And there's more- the city admits that the 48-foot height limit is a completely unnecessary giveaway to developers:
The City admits Measure T would work within our 30' height limit.

“Even without an amendment to the height limit, however, local developers have confirmed that R-25 sites could develop at densities of 19-24 units per acre under Proposition A limits."

(City of Encinitas, Housing Plan, Appendix B, Page 68.)

51 comments:

  1. So...let me get this straight: the city knows it could upzone under Prop A height limitations and the density could be lower than R30.

    So...can anyone explain to me why the city is going to such extremes and calling it a "state mandate"?

    Anyone, anyone?

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  2. I already voted NO on T ... this is so old and so late. beside a bunch of bitching is this post going to do anything?

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    1. Agreed. Move on already.

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    2. I think there are some that will need more info, so its always good to keep putting it out there. But to be fair, this slightly one sided. Hcd rejected 25 unit density.

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    3. Go away city troll. If we wanted a better plan, we would have helped over the past two years.

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    4. The Terrible “Measure T”

      Dear Encinitas Resident,
      By now you will have received oversized cardboard shingles in the mail from pro-development groups urging you to vote yes on Measure T. But, if you really want to preserve your peaceful neighborhood, community character, and quality of life you must reject Measure T. It is bad for the City. It is bad for you. And it does not provide affordable housing.

      All five Council members have aligned themselves with the building industry and want to disenfranchise you from having a voice in the future of your beach community. They have become useful lackeys by selling your rights out to greedy developers. They even overturned their own ordinances to settle frivolous lawsuits brought on by the building industry and land barons.

      They tell you that Measure T, as written, is required by State law. What they do not tell you is that Measure T goes way beyond State requirements.

      They scare you into believing that your State bureaucracy will impose their will onto this City if Measure T is voted down, that the State may sue. Rest assured, the State does not have the power to overturn the will of the people. It would violate your democratic rights guaranteed by the US Constitution.
      They tell you that “Measure T doesn’t add any housing.” They must take you for dummies. Developers already stand in line to quadruple their profits by taking advantage of property rezoned for high-density four-story structures with drastically reduced setbacks and parking areas.

      They tell you that only “13 small areas” were selected to allow for more housing. Folks, this is only the beginning. If approved, Measure T changes the General Plan and Municipal Codes IRREVERSIBLY to allow higher densities of taller structures throughout the city. Resist urbanization of your unique beach town and the nefarious attempt to destroy your quality of life through increased traffic, pollution, noise, and crime.

      They tell you that Measure T “ensures local residents continue to have control over new development.” But history has demonstrated that development driven local governments don’t give a hoot about residents.

      They sell out to special interest groups every time. In Encinitas they exploited the need for a Housing Element Update to destroy your right to vote on future zoning changes and on other changes to your General Plan. If you question these statements please read the entire 231 pages (originally over 800 pages) of the Housing Element Update before you vote.

      Measure T is a “Terrible” plan. Demand a better plan that does not trash your General Plan. Demand one that will actually create affordable housing. Vote NO on T.

      Dietmar Rothe, Ph.D.
      Cardiff-by-the-Sea

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    5. Thanks, Dietmar! Well thought out and describes the situation to a (No on) T!

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    6. Yeah until its three stories at Cardiff seaside market. It's two now.....!

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    7. It will be three...and Cardiff doesn't get out from under the "parapets, HVAC equipment, elevator shafts, and stairwell" extra 10'. Buh-bye, views.

      Just one more itty-bitty detail "staff" snuck in while council members were asleep at the wheel. Those "expert staff" to which the entire Council says it must defer....

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    8. One of the things that density bonus allows is to "waive" some requirements of the city code. So it's likely that the seaside market site could be "waived" to 3 stories and residents would be unable to do anything about it.

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    9. It can be waived now...

      New density bonus law also allows waivers to commercial structures. Read it. You'll flip out. State law is trending in the wrong direction.

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  3. 10:51-

    Good sarcamism. Too bad staff and the developers already had their plan they were selling to the public.

    Staff failed bottom line.

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  4. HCD did NOT reject R25. Who are you getting your information from? Tony K?

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  5. Tony K is ignorant in many ways and thinks nothing of confidently spreading false information. People who don't know any better accept what he says at face value and think it's true. Big mistake.

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    1. Tony K is ignorant and aggressive in his confidence. Not a good combo....

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  6. Tony K was sent on a $9000 vacation to Israel by Leichtag's Seidle and Farley so that Leichtag could 'steal' agricultural land from the citizens of Encinitad and let Leichtag built ocean view Jewish-only office space. Tony K lives with his in-laws in Leucadia and has never bought a home in his life, nor has he ever made a living but instewlad has always relied on his wifevs income...in other words Tony K is a major freeloader snd terribly vulnerable to taking brides/'free' trips/gifts/favors. Tony K is gullible, incompetent, an athiest and sadly very unintelligent.

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    1. Geeze angry ranter. I thought Tony worked in the print industry and seem like a pretty solid guy. Not sure where you get your rant info from?

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    2. Think again, 10:26. Tony's been out of work for years. He abandoned his base and now talks about meeting with developers on "pretty good" high-density projects.

      Not sure where you get your "pretty solid guy" from.

      As for 2:13, he's not angry, he's racist. The rest of us ignore him

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    3. Typical syndrome - a local rube gets elected, and the 'power$ that be' get to them. The rube realizes playing the game "right" has its reward$. That is the Gaspar story too. Maybe Dalager can grill up lunch for the candidates on his free stove.

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    4. According to easily obtainable research via the internet, Tony is gainfully employed in addition to being on the council, and working for Leucadia. He's doing a great job for us on the council, especially considering the alternative.

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  7. Four votes in - NO on T! The city council are all sell-outs.

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  8. Vote no on Kranz! At every turn he has worked against taxpayers. He likes to take credit for the $10,000,000 school purchase. Hold him responsible and vote him out.

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    1. After 20 years, because of compounding interest on the loan its $30 million dollars for 1.78 acres. Do the math. Because of his falling for a ruse by Baird the city cannot afford adequate law enforcement.

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    2. If the Sheriff can deploy several officers on the beach, it appears there is no shortage of manpower.

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    3. 5:00, So you are suggesting that interest on a loan compounds?

      I'm not sure you understand compounding. Interest compounding applies to the receiver of interest payments (lender), not the payer (borrower).

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  9. Wish Manjeet and Lisa would take Kranz with them....

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    1. And take Masih Maher too.

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  10. The Giles $4 million dollar surfzone McMansion and the $10 million dollar art complex were a huge waste of money. vote out the fools who supported this projects.

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    1. Fake spear says " Preserve out paradise ". Yeah right ... by rezoning to 4 stories and tens of thousands of additional car trips per day. Hey Fakespear.... no thanks .

      Vote no on T.
      Vote out all incumbents.

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    2. Unfortunately, Gaspar is the alternative to Blakespear. Leaving that choice blank is the only other option. I did that in the council race.

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  11. Tasha keep your damn campaign signs off my private property. That goes for you to Gaspar. Neither one of you has any brains whatsoever, how you idiots find your way to the bathroom in the morning is beyond me.

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    1. Tasha stuck some on mine, too - twice!!!

      That girl does not listen, not a good omen if she makes it onto Council.

      And watch for meetings to run twice as long. She talks as much as she doesn't listen.

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    2. Kranz, Muir and Brandenberg will likely win the seats.

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  12. Tasha is telling everyone that the Measure T group is a small group of uninformed citizens that don't understand the planning rules. Tasha, as a Planning Commissioner who was very supportive of Measure T, I don't know if YOU understand the planning rules.

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    1. If this is the best Encinitas can come up with, we're in deep s**t!

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    2. That's rich, coming from a large individual uninformed citizen.

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  13. Dump Muir - the ONLY reason to vote for Tasha.

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    1. There is no reason to vote for Tasha. She is a younger version of the vindictive turncoat Lisa Shaffer.

      Tasha killed the Planning Commission attempt to require affordable housing for Measure T projects. BOO.

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    2. Tasha drinks City Kool-Aid by the gallon.

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    3. Another Lisa Shaffer!!! Spare us that agony!
      I guess there is no reason to vote for her. But another 4 years of Muir?? I suppose the city council needs someone to stare at the ceiling for 4 years. He'll help spike pensions for the city workers and protect his bloated pension.

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    4. 1:08 pm -

      who the hell wants affordable housing Section 8 housing in Encinitas?

      Are you fucking stupid?

      I saved up over 25 years of conservative saving to be able to afford a down payment on a place to by in Encinitas. I was finally able to in 1995 and glad I did.

      Now you want to impliment section 8 government housing in Encinitas?

      Really. Poor people in need really need prime real estate living?

      I don't think so and I will fight you every step of the way. Along with your wacked out freind sheila the self confessed french irish shoeless wrench. What a case you and she are for the rational folks.

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    5. section 8 already here and has been for some time. doesn't matter how you vote. the fact that you think that measure t is tied to section 8 shows that you should take advantage of the next 48 hours

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    6. She could take Muir's oversized council chair tho....

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    7. There is no section 8 housing in Encinitas.

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    8. "Since 1995 the City of Encinitas Housing Authority has operated a Section 8 Program. The funding for this program comes from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and is administered by local housing authorities. The Section 8 Program offers rental assistance to very low-income Encinitas households through a voucher-based program."

      http://www.encinitasca.gov/index.aspx?page=389

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  14. 11:33 Doesn't understand Section 8 housing or Measure T.

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  15. 12:29- Actually there is Section 8 housing in Encinitas. It is in Leucadia at the apartments on Vulcan.

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    1. The city's affordable housing program has been in place since 1995.

      http://www.encinitasca.gov/index.aspx?page=389

      The site shows 152 affordable units. There are probably many others that aren't part of the city program.

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    2. The in-lieu fees paid by developers under the inclusionary ordinance are used to subsidize rents for qualifying low income applicants. They don't pay the whole rent; just the difference between the market rate and the affordable threshold.

      In some cases the lump sum can help a lot more families afford housing than building one unit. It needs to be priced right, and for many years the fee was way too low.

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  16. The in lieu fees are a complete scam, unless they equal the value of those million dollar homes that they are replacing. This policy is a total giveaway to developers and should end now.

    Our city has every right to demand that developers live up to the permits that they are granted with their projects.

    The lack of will to do so, reflects on how much they have been compromised.

    Speaking of a lack of will, where to begin?

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    1. I guess you don't care about what actually allows low income folks to afford housing. That or math isn't your thing.

      Or, you only use low income folks as pawns in your game of poking a finger into the eye of anyone who dares hammer a nail into wood.

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