Encinitas leaders will consider developing a parking lot for the homeless next week, but the idea is already receiving pushback.
If approved, the parking lot would be the first for homeless use in North County and modeled after other similar lots in San Diego.
The location, at the Leichtag Commons agricultural property on Saxony Road, would be operated by Jewish Family Services. JFS runs San Diego's other three lots on Balboa Avenue, Aero Drive, and Mission Village Drive.
Monday, November 18, 2019
City to consider creating homeless camp on Saxony
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Grapes of Wrath has come to Encinitas! Put the camp next to Meyer or Ecke's property!
ReplyDeleteMeyer can donate his bloated housing profits to the homeless. You'll see passenger pigeons darkening the sky before that...
DeleteThis proposal will be debated at the Council Meeting on Wednesday, November 20th!
ReplyDeleteThis City Council is fucking crazy.
ReplyDeleteVote them all out!!!!
If they ever vote for something like this, it should be in the mayor's neighborhood.
Once the word gets out, there will be lines waiting to get into the New Mecca.
DeleteScumey , Scaley and Scabie are packing their garbage bags and headed to the new Slag City on Saxony!
DeleteI'm around Encinitas all the time. What bums? where are all of these bums that they need to make a bum camp? Is it that the city wants or needs more so they would create a place for bums to live so they City can receive grant money???
ReplyDeleteFrom changing Rural Residential property in Olivenhain to 227 apartment ghettos to bum encampments on Saxony. These council clowns have lost their minds for wanting to create more wrong than right.
I am convinced there is grant money involved (meaning our tax dollars) as no one could be this stupid for free.
More failure as they are attempting to do the same things L.A, Sacramento, San Francisco etc. Only here in Encinitas they want to create the problems where none exist. Like a battered wife that never leaves making it worse on her but can't stop staying.
Next round of voting, hopefully these fools will be out of a job
It is 277 apartment ghettos.
DeleteThey'll need a Free Clinic there too. Free parking is just the beginning of what will be required to maintain this thing.
ReplyDeleteThere has to be some other motive involved here too - permanent State grants or some other monetary incentive.
How about free NEEDLE exchange?? We dont have enough needles on our streets....
DeleteWasn't there some agreement signed by them and the city as to what they could do on Leichtag Commons agricultural property?
ReplyDeleteLooks like the "sliding scale" principle on prior agreements is in motion here. I recall there was an purported run around on land use restrictions by changing the parcel designation into sub-groupings. After some years, they might apply for rezoning, based on these redesignations.
DeleteTo make a homeless encampment a permanent fixture on this type of land must indicate some incentive is in play - hard to say just what it might be.
$$$ redefines agreements.
DeleteAsk Krantz - he accepted gratuities from Leichtag. Better than a kitchen appliance!
DeleteAg use in perpetuity as part of the original sell apparently doesn't mean a thing.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first time nor will it be the last time that mandate will be tested.
Ecke used that 'perpetuity promise' to develop other large portions of his land. Then, years later, he tried to renege on the deal, crying poverty. In spite of spending a bundle on trying to convince city voters to grant him a pass on his promise, he was thoroughly trounced in the city election.
DeleteIncorrect, the Jews sent Kranz to Israel and he voted to allow Leeching to add 40% more office space (ocean views) on your 'perpetual ag land. Silly goyim, the Jews are experts at bilking. Follow the 'non-profiteering' money trail.
Delete10:22 PM You have your time lines confused. The previous attempt by Ecke to change the property title covenant was years before he sold it. Once that failed, he realized it would be a longer process than he had anticipated. The new owners were willing to sit on the land and take the slower incremental legal steps to slowly unwind the "restrictive" ag-only covenant. Kranz taking 'gifts' is just a incremental link in the chain of that process. This homeless parking lot is a bigger step, as it apparently requires an "emergency" declaration of some sort. In a few years, there will be an 'emergency' for condos....
DeleteWhen Leichtag bought the Ecke property it came with agricultural zoning. This makes certain non-agricultural activities non-conforming, of which overnight homeless parking is one. Leichtag certainly knows this as they applied for a non-conforming use in 2013. The request by Leichtag looks like they will expand the non-conforming uses in the future to the detriment of the neighbors.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what Dr. Michael Savage has stated for decades.
ReplyDelete"watch out do gooders, they will do you good".
If you dig deep enough you'll find rat infested fraud.
All I hear is rich white people saying not in my backyard. The homeless that would benefit from this lot are not the people you are describing. I cant wait for this lot and the opportunity for people to be connected to the services they need.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you're prone to stereotyping. And also prognosticating the outcome before it occurs.
Delete" the services they need", these services they need they can get at your home. How many have YOU taken in?? House them, feed them, cloth them, come on, provide them with everything they need at YOUR expense.
DeleteDid I miss the memo where someone owes bums a living? Housing? Food? Medical?...well?
DeleteWhere is the memo?
4:01 do you actually not believe the vote will be 5-0 to go forward with the project? What rock have you been under since Blakespear packed her court?
Delete1:01PM: Exactly and completely correct.
DeleteHomeowners in this state got everything they wanted with Prop 13, and want to cash in while screwing the rest of us, especially the less fortunate (esp. if they have more melanin in their skin).
Now Boomers and their heirs want to dodge the consequences of their votes for Reaganomics and other neo-liberal selfishness they disguise as "free market economics" and "individual liberties.
Sober living housing, Section 8, and social services that save lives cost money, but the lucky ducks who happened to be born at the right time want to continue exploiting that good fortune.
I guess it's perfectly fine for them to exploit "development" (i.e., devastation) of this area to make their lives cushier, more profitable, and free of the "other," refuse to pony up.
Boomers here want a community they can brag about without doing the hard work it takes to make it an actual community. There's no NIMBY like a North County NIMBY.
1:01pm. Why don't you buy a lot next to Blakespear and let homeless park on your property? That would be so nice and helpful.
DeleteThanks!!!
How many homeless are you letting stay on your property?
I smell a hypocrite.
I worked for a Safe Parking Program in San Diego, and I wouldn't mind if it were next to my house. The second someone loses there house you are labeling them a Bum. You might want to get you facts straight about the face of homelessness. You should really see how many hard working people are a paycheck away from living in there car.
DeleteThis Forbes article - written apparently by a liberal - will deliver a dose of reality to whomever posted this comment: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/09/12/why-california-keeps-making-homelessness-worse/#10dfba855a61
DeleteHe's not a Californian...
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shellenberger
Most of the people who would be using this lot are working and obviously living in their insured and registered vehicles. These people are already sleeping in their cars in your neighborhood so not much changes there now with this safe lot there will be a group monitoring (so no one has to worry about the big scary homeless people) and working with them to get them into housing (the number one resolution to the issue of being home-less).
ReplyDelete1:17pm Nice dry wit. You had me for a moment.
DeleteThe most needy are the ones >not< sleeping in their vehicles. Those are the ones described in the Forbes article "Why California Keeps Making Homelessness Worse":
Delete"For decades, many progressives have claimed that homelessness is really just a kind of poverty, a manifestation of social inequality. In 1986, celebrity comedians Whoppi Goldberg, Robin Williams, and Billy Crystal held “Comic Relief,” a telethon for homelessness. Throughout it, they emphasized that the homeless were just like you and me, just poorer. Today, many of California’s leading homelessness advocates insist that the current crisis is due mostly to the housing shortage.
Homelessness experts and advocates disagree. “I’ve rarely seen a normal able-bodied able-minded non-drug-using homeless person who’s just down on their luck,” L.A. street doctor Susan Partovi told me. “Of the thousands of people I’ve worked with over 16 years, it’s like one or two people a year. And they’re the easiest to deal with.” Rev. Bales agrees. “One hundred percent of the people on the streets are mentally impacted, on drugs, or both,” he said."
Is this the population the City proposed to dump into the neighborhood on Saxony?
Alternatively, there are people who choose to live in vehicles and park in neighborhoods at night. One such couple has been parking their camper at Moonlight Beach by day for years. To create a "free" (taxpayer funded) parking lot at Leichtag will set up an incentive system which will attract such a population. Given the zoning and building requirements imposed upon everybody else in that neighborhood, is this right?
1:17 here...I can tell you for a fact that "100% of of the people on the streets are mentally impacted, on drugs, or both" is an inaccurate statement. There are lots of folks who are homeless for a number of other reasons. For example, studies show that 57% of homeless women report that domestic violence was the immediate cause of their homelessness. There are seniors or folks with physical disabilities who are on fixed income $700-800 a month-how do you rent a place for that? So they live in their cars until they get connected to the right resources. It's too easy to say, everyone's crazy and on drugs-but it's more than that.
Deletemeanwhile 3 more trees have been removed from Hwy 101. We may as well have homeless parking lots. Goes well with the scorched earth policy.
ReplyDeleteFlaming torches and pitch forks anyone??
ReplyDeleteJust a long as we can stab bums in the heart with them.
DeleteSo, the city wants to help the homeless that work and own cars? How about the ones who don't work, own nothing, and literally live on the streets. Seems like a really lame band-aid.
DeleteBlakespear/Kranz/Hinze think their feel-good public gesture (actually payback to their friends Farley & Co.) will save them in 2020.
Delete9:42- Haaa. Think again.
Delete6:32 I did and think the odds of an upset are better than ever after last night. we shall see.
Delete8:30 PM Yea - this is classifying "homeless" into categories. It's discrimination! Where's the civil rights attorneys? They'll get in line to sue the city!
ReplyDeleteA link on City website gives an idea of the $$ Leichtag will receive, looks like at least close to $300,000
ReplyDeleteRead here:
ReplyDeletehttps://encinitas.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2058&meta_id=105075
Watch out for the bleeding heart do gooders. Somehow they are under the impression the rest of the working tax payers should take care of the others that don't work or pay taxes.
ReplyDeleteI have a solution. Build camps in the desert and ship the bums there. Provide tents, water and food and an outhouse. Make sure a tall fence surrounds the camp with barbed wire adorning the top of that fence. Isn't that how the United States treated the American citizens of Japanese decent under the democrat FDR during the war?
So, you do gooders are writing the bums deserve better than mistreated Americans of Janpanese decent?
Typical of the clowns with the blank look in their eyes that decry the working class and demand free money for those that don't work.
10:37 Stop calling homeless people "bums." Show a little kindness.
DeleteStop calling bums homeless people. That's like calling obese people big. The word bum is defined in all dictionaries, look it up.
DeleteHot tip for 2:11: All homeless people are not bums. Enough of your prejudice and stereotyping.
DeleteThe American government has wasted hundreds of billions invading and then "rebuilding" countries that never wanted the US around in the first place. Build a giant city in the boondocks of the USA, where everything is free - the disadvantaged can move there and live a basic lifestyle. Food and medical care would be provided, along with the appropriate social services. Behavior would be controlled and those that couldn't or wouldn't cooperate would be given the boot. The US government could afford this and should - everyone would have the chance to be covered for all the basics, but would have to go along with the prescribed program.
ReplyDeleteTake a gander at this propagandic atrocity
ReplyDeletehttps://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/encinitas/story/2019-11-20/encinitas-weighs-ban-on-gas-hookups-for-new-projects
It's already been placed from page 1 on UT to page nowhere.
LOL!
Virtual certainty Mike Levin backs this foolishness.
Mental disorders abound in this new world of propagandic lies and frauds.
Wang is the guy who rides his bike everywhere and thinks everybody else should and eventually will do the same. He is as impractical as they come.
DeleteInsanity. Does this buffoon wang think electricity simply comes out of the wall? More hysteria from the gullible warming crowd.
ReplyDeleteWang seems to be a favorite with Blakespear, believe he takes many of her photo op pix??
ReplyDeleteBuild it and they will come.
ReplyDeleteEU; come for the bigotry, stay for the antisemitism.
ReplyDeleteLeichtag's go-to "argument" when they have none: antisemitism.
Delete4:07 PM Their ace in the hole!
Delete"FUNDED BY THE STATE" Your tax dollars. Imagine, your tax dollars being spent to ruin you neighborhood. Geee, who runs/ruins the state? You get one guess.
ReplyDeleteWho gets the best ocean views> are they going to do a lottery every day, or is it law of the jungle?
ReplyDeleteThey really need to be out in the desert somewhere where land is plentiful. Can't afford to live beachside in So Cal, then, you someone doesn't owe it to you. You know, a free market way of sorting things out. They call it America.