The current city council has continued prior councils' practice of not providing written summary minutes of council discussion, but only "action minutes" which state the outcomes. Encinitas Undercover will provide a forum for observers to record what occurs at each council meeting.
Items of interest on the agenda:
- Closed session performance review of His Excellence Gus Vina and city attorney Glenn Sabine. Closed session by choice, not a requirement. Would the fawning praise be too cringeworthy for public consumption?
- Street standards
Please use the comments to record your observations.
Let's hope that Sabine and Vina are on probation and will be gone in January.
ReplyDeleteThere is no need for probation. When they wake up and realize Vina has been and is one of the worse leaders for our City (Um- look at the financial problems of Stockton and Sacramento! from Vina serving as Director of Finance!), they should can him immediately and bring in an interim City Manager until they recruit an adequate replacement.
ReplyDeleteThis loser Sacramento failure will be retiring at full pay over $220,000 per year for doing a shitty job for several Cities over the bleak years of his government disservice. Shameful and a crime again taxpayer.
Vina's contract with the city requires 6 months notice of termination. Unless the council gave it to him in the July performance review, he will be around until July 2015 if the council decides to sack him in January.
DeleteWe don't know. Again the mayor reported out that the council only had a discussion in the closed session performance review yesterday. A decision will come in January. The mayor explained that the reason for this premature review was to give Barth an opportunity to weigh in on Vina's performance before she leaves office in December. The council was almost 25 minutes late in starting the regular council meeting. That was quite an opportunity Barth was given. Almost 1½ hours for Barth to try to defend Vina. She and Gaspar are the only ones from the old council that selected him in 2011.
Fire Vina.
DeleteShun Barth.
I didn't see Sheila or Julie speaking to the issues lat night.
ReplyDeleteDid you see Lerch??
DeleteLerch? Too funny. I doubt you will ever see him at a council meeting. He lost big time with his big money.
DeleteI tuned in a little late. Was Audet there? He was telling everyone else to pack the hall, so he should have been.
ReplyDeleteWas he telling everyone to pack the hall for any particular item? Is there a reason he, or any of Vina's 28, need to be there every week?
DeleteGaspar and the others will do nothing but praise the city manager. We are doomed for the next two years.
DeleteKeep waving and say hi to Gus and Glenn.
9:48 Please show where Audet "was telling everyone else to pack the hall" I read the Beacon article, good job shining the light on Barth and Vina's little scheme-
DeleteAudet's claim that the city does not care for veterans because of a tiny tear in a flag was a new low. The park host who is a veteran usually takes care of the flags but was out of town at the time.
DeleteAudet is a sensationalist that likes to use the Tammany Hall style of politics to misrepresent facts to achieve his own skewed agenda.
The City Council spent nearly an hour and a half on a performance review of Vina and Sabine. That sure doesn't sound as if the council was singing the praises of the city manager and city attorney. Stay tuned for the vote in January.
ReplyDeleteSince Sabine, and his firm Morrison and Sabine, have cost the City 10 million in 7 years, it's hard to believe that he is still around. And yes, I did email the whole Council about this. In fact I have done it several times. Seems like they like him for reasons I cannot begin to understand.
ReplyDeleteCan anybody venture to guess, specifically please, why the public has seen what needs to be done about vina and sabine for years and yet the council refuses to comes out of their blindness syndrome long enough to find some perspective that seems to only be visible to the public?
ReplyDeleteIt is not just the public but some of staff knows too but fear for their jobs if don't they abide by the powers that be.
Hopefully that long meeting in closed session means it wasn't an easy go. That Teresa got to have her say when she has chosen to be his biggest supporter to the detriment of this city, stinks. Her opinion of his performance has zero validity.
Small blessings that the council will not rule on this until January. A glimpse of hope that council will finally be rid of Teresa and the new/old make up will have a chance to distinguish themselves by firing vina and sabine, at long last. Glimpse is all we have for now but this coming council could show they are representing the public by letting these two go onto to their own greener pastures.
12:50 - what I believe you're missing is a seat at the table. In a nutshell, Vina has done everything this council wants him to do. I'm sure they know how the public feels about him, but he doesn't work for the public. He works for the council. The council works for the public. Clearly, under the terms of the goals and objectives given to him by the council, he has done nothing wrong. Teresa had to be given the opportunity to evaluate Vina not for her sake but for his. Objectively, if you had a review scheduled and one fifth of your input would not be there, wouldn't you want to find a way to get it into the record? That's only fair. Sure, the new council could just fire them both, but what effect would that have on future candidates? It would be chilling. If you knew your predecessor was fired because of a shift in the political winds, would you accept the job? If you did, you would negotiate a steep severance payment to protect yourself, wouldn't you?
DeleteIf I were on the council I certainly would not instruct Vina in the manner that this council has chosen, and I would have completely jumped ugly on him on the PV Bond taxability issue - he should have seen that coming. But that's not enough to fire him - just lose his bonus.
- The Sculpin
What bonus?
DeleteThe fact that Vina was blindsided by the taxable bond issue for Pacific View, along with his choice for Financial Director Tim Nash and financial adviser Jay Lembach, is more than enough to fire him. Add in the debacle of the illegal discharges into Rossini Creek and fabricated deceit in the Rutan and Tucker report for Prop. A. There is plentiful justification to push him out.
The salary of the city manager and the prospect of working in Encinitas are more than enough to attract new applicants. There won't be a shortage of applications.
I would quickly discount the one fifth input of Barth. She believe Vina walks on water. He doesn't, so what's the value of her opinion? I'm convinced the scheduled closed session yesterday (2 months before it was due) was an attempt to get a satisfactory rating for Vina. He didn't get it, so there wasn't a majority to give him a gold star.
--Pez espada
well put. bath is now a lame duck...
DeleteBarth is definatley lame. But not as lame as Vina.
DeleteVina steered the Council to continue with the two Trophy projects that suck all the small remaining money from the City without ever addressing the real long term costs for moving forward.
I have never seen a complete forecast of what the Regional Sports Park will cost the City 1) to build and 2) to operate and maintain in perpetuity. Same for PV.
Vina is supposed to come from a Financial background which should be well versed in looking at long term costs and accounting trends. But wait- How well did he do in advising his Cities when he was in that role. How is Stockton and Sacramento doing financial.
Vina is a fool and Barth a bigger fool for supporting this napoleon loser. Thank God Barth is out, and I look forward to the day when the remaining Council wake up and fire Vina.
Encinitas deserves a real City Manager, Not an anchor that is sinking our future.
We should get an experienced manager from the private sector who understands mistakes have consequences. Someone like Jamie Dimon perhaps.
DeleteFrom Bloomberg Businessweek Jan. 24, 2014:
"After agreeing to pay $23 billion in penalties and settlements in 2013, JPMorgan Chase (JPM) Chief Executive Jamie Dimon was rewarded today by the board he chairs, receiving a 74 percent pay raise to $20 million."
The amount above doesn't include the $6.2B loss from the London Whale fiasco. Hey the private sector can be brutal.
Is this the same Jamie Diamond who donated to President Obama's campaign along with all the other bankers from Goldman, Morgan? Is this the same JP Morgan that along with other bankers like Morgan and Goldman donated to Elizabeth Warren's campaign in Mass ???
DeleteJeez, I wonder of Jamie and his banking buddies got to keep their health plans? Warren and Obama got to keep their gold pated plans- we regular folks lost our plans
11:23 AM
DeleteNo, it's Jamie Dimon. If you're going to go on rant tangents at least know how to spell the name. I mean it's right there.
Oh my God, I'm stupefied to hear that bankers contributed to Warren's campaign. Does that mean she is no longer pure? I'm sure the ones you support are as pure as the new driven snow.
Elizabeth 'Liar-wathawa" Warren?
DeleteYou mean the "Faux- cho-hontas" who claiimed to be a minority of indian descent to promote herself and her career - only to later be shown to have no indian heritage?
You mean the same Elizabeth Warren who runs around preaching about income inequality and the big bad banks- when she actually takes money from the big bad banks and leveraged her connections to get easy loans to line her real estate holding pockets?
You mean the same Elizabeth Warren who took millions in questionable campaign donations thru her website without clear disclosure of who those sources were?
I voted for Obama- I was really moved by his "there is too much money in politics" line-
But hey- why discuss the hypocrisy of "Lia-watha" Warren, Obama, and Jamie Dimon when we can talk about spelling-
Oh cute, "Lia-watha" Warren. Then it must be true. Of course growing up in Oklahoma there's no way any Native-American blood could have crept in there. After all it was only know as Indian Territory for all those years. But let's ignore her accomplishments because she may not be pure.
DeleteAnd I'm sorry you swallowed the Obama "there is too much money in politics" line. Maybe you can only vote for those who are pure. I'm not criticizing you voting for Obama. I am dubious about why you voted for him.
But this blog post isn't about Obama or Warren so let's leave it there.
12:29 "Lia-watha" defined - a teller of tall tales to promote oneself.
DeleteElizabeth Warren misrepresented her ethnicity to promote herself and her career. Rather than hold her accountable you seek to minimize this fact by disapraging my opinion and me-
As for accomplishments what are they ? Tenure based on her made up heritage, hired at Harvard- based on her made up ancestry, connections to banks that funded her real estate assetts- based on her position at Harvard, her law pratice, where she consulted to banks without having a law license- based on her position at Harvard
She is a fraud who cares nothing of the poor or underserved and only of herself and her big money donors from hollywood, off-shore manufacturing and Wall street-
she is a fraud, a charlatan, a puppet - sound like anyone else we know in office?
Dubious?- There is too much money in politics. Locally Lisa "situational ethics" Shaffer wrote there was too much money, then she donated to and backed the candidate who had raised the most money- sound like anyone we know?
I didn't swallow anything, I vote on principle, perhaps you might try doing the same. Let's leave it there.
3:05 PM
DeleteThanks, that gave me a good laugh. But I need to get back to reality. You should do the same.
10:45 you are living in fantasy land- like 'Lia-watha"
DeleteHer career is built on a lie, her accomplishments built on cronyism layered on top of that lie, her service to the poor and underserved miniscule while her service to herself is grand. She loudly boasts of equality while she practices hate,bullying and intimidation
won't be joining you Mr. Roarke and Ms. Warren on fantasy island, I live in the real world. You should do the same.
10:10 AM
DeleteIsn't there a Fox News program you should be watching or are you listening to Rush right now? Either way don't drift away from the TV/radio for too long or you risk thinking for yourself. That would be bad.
Maybe you could compare your resume to Warren's so we can see what real achievement looks like. I'm sure your resume just blows her away.
10 Things You Didn't Know About Elizabeth Warren
DeleteBy Mallie Jane Kim, U. S. News & World Report, Oct. 4, 2010 11:41 a.m. EDT
1. Elizabeth Warren was born Elizabeth Herring in Oklahoma City on June 22, 1949, the last of four children and the only daughter of Donald and Pauline Herring. Her father worked at various jobs, including as a maintenance man at an apartment building.
2. Warren graduated high school at age 16, a state debate champion with a full scholarship to George Washington University. She later transferred to the University of Houston.
3. At 19, she married NASA mathematician Jim Warren. They have a daughter and a son.
4. After earning a B.S. in speech pathology and audiology in 1970, Warren worked in public schools, helping children with disabilities.
5. The day her first child turned 2, Warren started at Rutgers University law school. She earned a J.D. in 1976.
6. Warren practiced law and then went on to teach at the University of Texas, University of Michigan, University of Pennsylvania, and Harvard law schools.
7. Divorced in 1978, she married law professor Bruce Mann in 1980.
8. In the mid-1990s, Warren was the chief adviser to the National Bankruptcy Review Commission, testifying against efforts to limit consumers' ability to file for bankruptcy.
9. Warren has written many scholarly articles and several books, including two coauthored with daughter Amelia Warren Tyagi, The Two-Income Trap and All Your Worth.
10. In 2008, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appointed her chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel monitoring the $700 billion bank bailout effort, formally known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program.
[Your right, what a loser]
1.Warren abandoned her 2 year old at home putting her personal ambition and self-interest first. It's all about me Warren
Delete2. Was hired at Harvard based on claiming she was a native american indian and a minority- claims that have turned out to be false and unproven
3. Divorced as a career choice? Married Law professor Bruce Mann , well connected insider .
4. Claims to have taken on banks representing consumers- in reality took more money from banks and financial institutions then her opponent in 2012 election
4. Claimed her high cheek bones were proof of her indian heritage
5. Plagarized (ripped-off) other peoples recipes and submitted them as her own in a cook book called Pow-wow-chow recipes.
6. Harry Reid and Lia-watha bailed out the banks enabing Dimon, Paulson, Buffett, Geithner to make hundreds of Millions
7. Warren later took campaign donations in 2012 from the very banks she bailed out in 2008
Lia-watha, self-promoter, traded in her husband for a DC inside power broker, lined her pockets with money from the very banks she rails against, misrepresented her ancestry to gain an advantage- oh yea, plagarist
1:45 PM
DeleteI'm too late, you have left the planet.
Horray! Teresa is out soon!!!
ReplyDeleteWe really need vina out!
and the rest of his "team".
DeleteRecord cold in Denver beats 1882 mark- polar vortex sweeps the USA, artic cap increases as does polar bear population- Al " I got mine" Al Gore continues flying in his private lear jet and limo lecturing us how we should ride bikes-
ReplyDeletemeanwhile in Encinitas Shaffer promotes her climate action plan with hihg density urban housing supported by for profit lawyer Marco Gonzalez to increase city carbon footprint, run-off into lagoon and tap resources-
elsewhere - faux nvironmentalist, global warming alarmists and income equality shaman Bono nearly crashes when his private $50 million dollar lear jet loses a door at 8,000 feet as he flies to Germany to accept an award
2:17, here's what I learned from your post:
Delete1.) It's cold in Denver today, which disproved global climate change.
2.) People flying in private jets somehow refutes scientific consensus.
3.) Wealthy people cannot have opinions on income inequality.
I could listen to your folksy witticisms all day. We should have a dialog. You can call me Salviati, and I shall call you Simplico.
Here's what I learned from Saliva's post:
Delete1.) She implies a myriad of the same conclusions cannot be portrayed with one example.
2.) She fails to understand the difference between mass propaganda and scientific consensus.
3.) She has no problem with wasteful people if they are wealthy hypocrites.
4.) She has drank the global warming "Flavor-Aid" (I'd say Kool-Aid, but that wouldn't be true or fair now would it?)
Sincerely,
Not Simplico
My dear Simplico,
DeletePerhaps our disagreement stems from a failure to define our terms. To me, this looks like consensus. Perhaps you will argue otherwise.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.nextgenclimate.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/chart.png
6:16 meanwhile record cold sweep the nation - but no people,. it's global warming and the ice cap is melting, polar bears are dying............................ah, wait, that is not happening????
Deleteohh - hey all, it's climate change- don't believe your eyes, believe us!
Nextgenclimate
DeleteThat is the political action committee founded by Tom Steyer who made billions in fossil fuel energy and who is now promoting green energy (where he has investments of course) and backing political people to vote to give his new investments new loopholes to earn him more money
all in the name of the environment of course-
You want some real information of the current global cooling facts look elsewhere-
6:16,
DeleteA good try and no doubt sincere. But just saying something doesn't make it so and neither does drawing a pretty graph.
Many scientists have signed a petition backing what Weather Channel founder John Coleman says: that the popular global warming claim is bunk. Was their voice included on that teeny white pie sliver? I don't think so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8nB3IjVqHE
The subjective opinions of "scientists" from other fields vs. the findings of published peer-reviewed research.
DeleteHmmmmm.
The caps are melting, the planet is warming, the polar bears are dying vs not really. Hmmmmm
DeleteDearest Simplico,
DeleteIt seems that you are impervious to rational thinking, so I'm afraid I cannot help you further.
I would encourage you to read the original Dialog between Salviati and Simplico. You can Google it. All joking aside it shows how we can be misled by what we believe to be intuitive and obvious. Simplico argued in favor of the Ptolemaic model of the solar system using intuitive rationale (if the Earth were moving, we would feel it.). Galileo used the Dialog to demonstrate the limits of our subjective intuition. Pilots are told to trust the instruments, not their senses--it's the same thing. Trust the data.
As to your claim that ice is growing, here's the real story: http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm
More on your doppelgänger here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue_Concerning_the_Two_Chief_World_Systems
Best, Sal.
here's the real story? Yes, the artic ice cap is growing and the polar bears are over populating - meanwhile Al "I got mine" Gore has pocketed hundreds of millions-
DeleteCan we forget about global warming for awhile and get back to what really happened during 9/11. This blog is getting dumb & dumber.
Delete4:14, Good and careful point that we can become misled by what we feel to be intuitive or obvious. The truth is, we wouldn't feel the earth if it were either moving or standing still would we?
Delete1. We wouldn't feel movement at a zillion miles an hour because of earth's inertia (as we don't in our cars steadily going 100mph).
2. We wouldn't feel movement at zero miles an hour because of earth's stillness (as we don't in our cars as we're parked at Wal-Mart.)
Here's the fascinating thing: most of us don't dispute that E=mc². Even though most of us don't completely understand and cannot explain relativity, we trust the consensus of experts that Einstein was right. So why don't we do the same for climate change? Answer: politics. We don't like the implications and consequences of admitting climate change (economic, environmental, regulation), so some slice of the population has decided that the conclusion must take precedence over the data. If we don't like the conclusion, the data must be wrong.
DeleteThe irony is that relativity is mind-bendingly absurd from the perspective of our subjective experience. A purely rational person would much more easily accept the science of climate change compared to relativity.
E=mc² forces us to believe that your mass and size change relative to your speed. As you accelerate, you get bigger and heavier. The concept of simultaneity only exists at a particular speed. If two people clap their hands simultaneously, and they are viewed from the perspective of someone traveling past at near the speed of light, their claps will not be observed as simultaneous--one will happen before the other.
Relativity is crazy. It's insane. It makes no sense. But it's true, and some really smart folks have proved it.
We trust them, only because there are no political angles to relativity.
5:55- Caught you- "Climate change"
DeleteAl Gore and his get rich cronies convinced the world there was "Global Waming" with the movie "An Inconvenient deception"
Gore used the movie to make hundreds of millions for himself and his friends - jetting around in his private jet, riding in limo's- telling all of us we should live in stack and pack housing, eat vegtables and ride bikes
Meanwhile the UN ratched up their plans with UN Agenda 21- and local regionalist candidates like Barth and Shaffer ran around spouting about global warming and Urban Agriculture while targeting the Strawberry Fields-
Yesterday 50 states in America were freezing, many set record low temps - you ignore this truth as it does not fit with the political agenda
so, knowing that running around crying global warming makes a person look foolish - after all, the country is freezing- the aristocratic know it alls- perhaps someone like Marco Gonzalez - now run around talking about climate change-
Meanwhile, 2:17, you are an ignoramus who is careless with your "facts." So careless that you don't even take time to proofread your posts, let alone check to see if what you post is accurate.
ReplyDeleteActually 3:39, I agree with 2:17 and KUSI's John Coleman. But you're right about careless type-o's.
Delete3:39
DeleteDenver did set a record low temp today- check it out on google
The Artic Ice cap is increasing- check it out on google
The ploar bear population is increasing, check it out on google
There is a polar vortex sweeping the country -weather channel
Al Gore did make hundreds of millions promoting global warming, he does fly in a private jet and ride in limo's- while advocating we ride bikes
Lisa Shaffer is working to push high density urbanization on Encinitas calling it a climate action plan
The Shaffer climate action plan will increase the city's traffic and pollution, increase run-off into the lagoon and increase the city's carbon footprint
oh- Bono the U2 Singer who preaches and lectures to us about the environment and income inequality- today he and 4 friends were flying at 8,000 feet in his $50 million dollar lear jet to accept an award in Germany when a door broke and caused an emergency landing - so much for riding coach and saving the environment -
"am I bugging you, I don't mean to bug you"
Bono - Rattle and Hum, 1988
One of the many reasons to get rid of Sabine is he NEVER bills for a paralegal. Most law firms have paralegals and they cost less. In all of my documentation on Sabine, not one charge shows a paralegal. It's attorney's fees all the way. It is supposed to work Sculpin says but from what I can deduce, Sabine has a pretty good handle on what he can bill and get away with, without council asking for anything. So, technically Sculpin is right, but in reality it hasn't worked that way.
ReplyDeleteThe best reason to remove the CA is his awful legal services. Why is he still here?
ReplyDeleteGlenn's actually a great guy and great attorney. He works for the Council so your beef is with them not him.
Deletepffff- good one.
Delete$165k salary for a department head? Are you kidding? My physician makes less than that. What do these people do that's important enough to warrant that type of pay?
ReplyDeleteNothing. They don't do a fucking thing all day. Every other Friday off, with full pay. Outrageous salaries and pensions and FREE fucking health care.... FOREVER!!
DeleteIt's the greatest con in history.
Well, for that pay, I hope they all have a master's or phd.
DeleteNow you know why our roads don't get fixed. All the money is used for overpaid salaries, enormous pensions, wonderful health care and benefits.
DeleteThe firefighters are getting fatter eating their donuts and drinking their coffee.
The police officers are lazy and spend most of their time sitting in their cars playing with their computers. We know they don't spend much time downtown looking for drunks. That would be a waste of time.
What do we get since the taxpayers are footing the bill?
You get the city trying to ram a housing element update designed to benefit city coffers only. We are selling the town to foot the bill.
DeleteJust say no.
8:32 I doubt many staffers have earned such high degrees. Good gawd we have elected idiots to the council who didn't have a college degree. That's the kind we want running our city? I think NOT.
Delete8:24, Yeah, they should make them work longer hours to make up for the day they take off every 2 weeks.
DeleteThey work a 9/80 schedule. There is no FREE health care for life either.
Delete5:27, I know. I just wanted someone else to point that out. Thanks.
Delete1:23 Bottom feeder, ever the valueless apologist. Why do you bother?
ReplyDeleteBarth is definatley lame. But not as lame as Vina.
ReplyDeleteVina steered the Council to continue with the two Trophy projects that suck all the small remaining money from the City without ever addressing the real long term costs for moving forward.
I have never seen a complete forecast of what the Regional Sports Park will cost the City 1) to build and 2) to operate and maintain in perpetuity. Same for PV.
Vina is supposed to come from a Financial background which should be well versed in looking at long term costs and accounting trends. But wait- How well did he do in advising his Cities when he was in that role. How is Stockton and Sacramento doing financial.
Vina is a fool and Barth a bigger fool for supporting this napoleon loser. Thank God Barth is out, and I look forward to the day when the remaining Council wake up and fire Vina.
Encinitas deserves a real City Manager, Not an anchor that is sinking our future.
In our City Standards for Dept. Heads, all of them are supposed to have Masters Degrees in their specific area. A CPRA request shows that they do not. However, again Council doesn't seem to care. I'm not quite sure what the council cares about these days.
ReplyDeleteI don't put too much stock in Masters degrees.
ReplyDeleteIt's a piece of paper, easy to obtain from a third-tier university.
Still, it's instructive that department heads and the city council are so contemptuous of the public that they don't even bother fulfilling that minimal standard.
10:08 AM
Delete"It's a piece of paper, easy to obtain from a third-tier university."
I guess you don't do recruitment evaluations or you wouldn't say that. Yes, some people get degrees from weak schools but that's obvious from their resume/application. Some are accomplished professionals that feel they need to add something by going through a National University/University of Phoenix type program. Most others are trying to boost their credentials through those programs. In the former case you evaluate them based on their work experience. In the latter case, while the degree may get their application past the initial cut, you pretty must ignore those degrees.
"Still, it's instructive that department heads and the city council are so contemptuous of the public that they don't even bother fulfilling that minimal standard." but you started out by saying "I don't put too much stock in Masters degrees." So which is it?
By the way, do you not put much stock in master's degrees because you have one and see little benefit in your accomplishment? After all, Encinitas appears to have a large share of Phd's living here. Does that include them?
EU - I assume your opinion relates only to the current discussion....gawd I hope so! I put great stock in a Masters degrees. In my field(s), Cornell, Wharton, UC, Stanford, MIT, NYU, even little 'ole SDSU are very nice to have. The problem is that these masters degrees do not end up in Encinitas City government. They're at Wall St., or large public companies, or innovative start-ups........therein lies the problem........but I guess that's OK, because our climate will ensure that we can always attract the best and the brightest!!!
Delete- The Sculpin
Sculpin,
DeleteOf course I'm not talking about all Masters degrees. Just sayin' a Masters of Public Administration from the U of Phoenix ain't exactly in the same universe as a Masters in Engineering from MIT.
I have always been leery of those needing to drop names to pugg themselves up -
DeleteI love meeting Ivy league grad's in the business world, no street sense, no common sense, limited work ethic, lack of real world tactics - easy pickings. While they are whining I am in winning - the result of Trust funds baby syndrome coupled with coddled professorisits - sound like anyone we know?
Sounds like your a bit envious Jerome. Maybe a few sessions with a psychiatrist would fix that. Or perhaps some medication for your jealousy over those who actually have the degrees. Go sell your insurance and let the more enlightened people run the ship. You had your chance and and you blew it big time. 35% pension raises-yea real smart.
Deleteenlightened? Doesn't Lisa Shaffer brag up an MBA, a PHD and ethics? She paid $10 m for a property that appraised for $4M and she looks the other way at a city manager withholding financial information from the public-
Deleteyou an be enlightened , I'll stick to the facts
Agree EU. It's not about where the person got their masters degree. It's about how the City constantly gets around our own rules. And it does it way to often IMHO.
ReplyDelete10:08 There are a huge number of people who further their education by getting a Master's Degree and a Ph.D Degree. It is hard work, more money, dedication, and the willingness to spend the time and money to earn that degree from a reputable college. It is more than just a "piece of paper".
ReplyDeleteIf you don't put much stock in those degrees, that is your opinion only. People are hired and paid based upon their education and experience. I think it is commendable and respect those that have earned those degrees.
I don't take much stock in the easy degrees that you can get online. My five year old son could probably get one.
For all of you supporting Masters and Ph'D's, why do you continually call out Dr. Lori when she posts her name. She got her Ph.D. at Stanford, which isn't exactly considered a 3rd rate institution.
ReplyDelete12:31 My response to that is I have nothing against her degree. I just don't care for the person that it is attached to. Her arrogance is very unbecoming.
Delete1:45-Or should I say Jerome. Your arrogance is not only unbecoming, it got you kicked out of office. Dr. Lori left the Parks and rec. Commission on her own because of what was happening. And, so did Dennis Lhota, who is a right wing republican. You can chose not to like Dr. Lori, but your arrogance is monumental if you think she is.
Delete12:31pm Gee thanks Glen for chiming in on our dollar. How much did that comment cost us here in Encinitas?
ReplyDeleteI think Ms. Greene is on another fishing expedition wondering why people don't like her. She just can't believe that some can't stand the sight of her. It is more than Jerome and Glenn.
ReplyDeleteI am not either of them, and I can't stand the sight of that woman.
Anyone who attacks anonymously, while badmouthing older women who have been genuine enough to post by name, is a scumbag, sicko.
DeleteI would suspect it is not "that" woman, but ALL women that call you out. She's just an easy target for you when you post anonymous. Got a few issues?
ReplyDelete3:20 Confused are you? You thought you had Jerome and Glenn pegged, so now the poster is after all women.
ReplyDeleteCare to explain why you posted "anonymous". Got a few secrets Ms. Greene?
Not Ms. Greene, asshat. Proof positive it wasn't her: she wouldn't stoop to using that term. I would. Anonymously, of course.
DeleteMs. Greene said she would never post here again. So much for that. She's been posting here "anonymously". You can tell by the way she phrases things. You can pick her and Lynn Marr out of 1,000 people. They think we are dumb. AHHHHH!
DeleteI'd like to thank the City of Encinitas for putting the light up sign in the middle of N 101 announcing (24/7) that the Encinitas Housing Plan Workshop date is coming up for whomever would like to give their input. I grow weary of hearing "They didn't let the residents know!" so obviously newpapers and large vinyl banners are not enough. What a perfect opportunity for complainers to share their effective alternative to the DOT method of voting. Can't wait to hear their plan. If it doesn't cost a lot of money it will surely cost a lot of time.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard for some here on this blog to really know what the city does to get the word out because we all know trolls like to live under rocks.
DeleteIt's pretty dark and very hard to see reality when you prefer to live in a bubble of doom and gloom.
2:55 I feel sorry for you. If you cannot stand the site of someone it really says more about you than about any particular person. I have never met Dr. Lori, but even if I disagreed with everything she said, I could still stand to look at her. She doesn't look grotesque, at least on television. Most of us post anonymous these days so not sure why you think any of the posts are about her. Perhaps you need a few sessions with a shrink? Or are you too well put together to do that. It could be a man, so you wouldn't have to worry that a woman might be too arrogant.
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Deletesite = refers to a place or a location.
sight = a thing that one sees or that can be seen.
Perhaps you need a few grade school lessons?
There, their, they're Jerome. Don't get so upset. If you were called out after every auto spellcheck 'error', this blog would read like a grammar lesson.
DeletePlease folks. Leave me out of these kinds of conversations. I don't care what any poster really thinks of me. I am who I am. Some like me, some don't. However I do live by the motto that if everyone likes me, I stand for nothing. BTW, I don't have a PhD from Stanford, just to clarify the poster. My Ph.D. is from that left wing commie university, Berkeley.
ReplyDeleteAnd one more thing. If you can't stand the sight of me, then I suggest you don't look at me. Problem solved. Glad I could help. I'll bill your insurance.
Delete5:55 Stay off the council cameras and you will make those who care not to view you much happier. That is how you can help. Thank you.
Delete5:55 That would be similar to fraud insurance.
DeleteGood God 8:15 and 8:17- You really are a jackass. How could she bill your insurance when she doesn't know who you are? And I doubt very much if you even watch the Council sessions. Why such hatred of a woman who has done nothing to you? Or has she? There are only 2 people that I imagine hate Lorri that much. Jerome and Sabine. Some may not like her, but your hatred is kind of spooky. In fact it borders on stalking behavior. There are certain things that should not be said in any public forum against a person. You are way over the top and if I ever find out who you are I will report you. Wc should have stopped this a while back and if I were he or she I would find out your IP address and report you. There is no excuse for you and your bullshit.
DeleteWouldn't' it be a hoot if Dr. L ran for Council and won. Poor 8:15 and 8:17. They would never be able to watch a meeting again.
Delete10:49 Maybe Ms. Greene should be reported. Try finding facts before you condemn others
DeleteProbably not a wise statement to say you will bill someone's insurance, especially if you are in the field and bill insurance.
DeleteBig NO NO.
12:03 She is unelectable. No worries here.
DeleteThis blog has lost its way sick,very sick people.
ReplyDeleteNo it seems the voters this round lost their way.
ReplyDeletewith a big Gaspar win, the development crowd is getting restless.
ReplyDeleteAdd it up more people voted against Gaspar then for her,She's a lame duck!
ReplyDeleteThis is the same nonsense outgoing councilwoman Teresa Barth spit out in her latest newsletter. No class when she was elected, no class leaving office. Uglier on the inside than she is on the outside.
DeleteBon Voyage, Sister...
I agree. We can all watch our lame duck mayor in action. It should be quite interesting and entertaining.
DeleteThank you. BIG SMILE.
6:54AM Odd logic. Non voters had no opinion - they did not vote against any candidate. They ignored the system overall.
ReplyDeleteIf you add up all the votes, less than half of the votes went to Gaspar so I would not classify this as a big win. No way, no how.
ReplyDeleteI think what it said is we have no good candidates that can fight big money, unless they have some themselves. Lerch came in at the last minute, didn't know anything about the workings of City Hall and came in 2nd. Julie, who knew a lot, but had less money came in third. Lerch loaned himself $20,000. Julie didn't. So, may I suggest we find someone for 2016 that either has some money they feel that they would like to spend, and win a council seat. It seems if you have obey you really don't have to do all the meet and greets, go to every event imaginable, etc. to win. So, the question is, who has enough money to loan themselves 25K, wait until the last few weeks, put out a lot of colored brochures, and do what Lerch did? And, of course, it cannot be one of Vina's 28 so that leaves us with finding someone who cares enough to want to literally fight City Hall from within. Hard to find-perhaps, but certainly no impossible in this town. There are a lot of people who have money. There are a lot of people who care. We have to find them and convince them to run. We have 2 years. Let's get moving.
ReplyDeleteBlakespear didn't have a problem raising money. Maybe if you find a candidate people care about and support, and that candidate has a website, email lists, and a way to receive donations early.
DeleteYou know, like find a good candidate who can run a real campaign.
Good idea 11:41. Do you have anyone in mind?
DeleteIt's unfortunate that money is the biggest factor in winning a council seat. It should be about who is the best candidate to represent the citizens and do what is best for our city.
DeleteWe have gotten off track. Why should people vote? Just have the candidates throw their money in the pot and the biggest pot wins. Unfortunately, that is what politics has become ---- all about money.
We have people on council right now and some in the past that knew nothing about how city hall or government works.
DeleteLet's get one of the bums off the street and put him/her on council. Get my point?
Luckily one thing is for certain. CHANGE.
ReplyDeletePeople die and smart people will fill their shoes in this world and the community will continue to improve.
KLCC is soon to be a sad thing of the past. Amen to that and the best years of Leucadia are yet to come. Syke!
8:42- you are counting your chickens before they hatch. The city can't/won't water the plants in the medians in Leucadia, yet plant and grow 7 acres of grass at the sport fields.
DeleteThe city can't / won't maintain the sign for the Roadside park yet spends $10 M on a school that will be bulldozed to the ground.
I've been waiting for 20 years for Leucadia's best to come.... I stopped holding my breath long ago, may I suggest you do the same, breath.
What's wrong with the sign at Roadside park? Looks fine to me.
DeleteSo you want the medians on the north end of town to be watered in a drought even though most of it will be ripped up for Streetscape. As for the rest of the medians, they all seem to be getting watered.
11:28- you are right. Nothing wrong in Leucadia. Love the dead oleanders.
DeleteAs has been stated previously, the dead oleanders are NCTD's to maintain or remove so go ask Tony to put more pressure on them to remove them all. They are on their easement after all.
Delete11:28 She's just pissed they took her "Send this junk to disneyland" sign down.
DeleteLeucadia.... Keep it crappy!!
DeleteThe oleanders, which had survived for years, as they are drought resistant, fell to the Sharp Shooter insects that carry a bacterium, which is killing oleanders all over the state, and in other states, as well. It's sad. Don't blame dead oleanders on those who don't support further ensnarling traffic with unwanted three way intersection one lane roundabouts, narrowing what had been our four lane highway, major arterial down to one lane northbound and one lane southbound. We want a greenscape/artscape not a cementscape.
Delete1:10pm. Why the unflagging support for oleanders? What positive do they bring to whatever location you are referring to? This has not been asked that I have seen, so here is your chance to step up and legitimize your concerns. Thanks for your participation in the discussion. Please continue if you have any more to offer. The ball is in your court.
ReplyDelete3:05, Only the ones within 50' from the center of the tracks belong to NCTD. So until someone gets out their tape and risks a tresspassing ticket we'll never know how many of the lovely dead or alive oleanders belong to.
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