Thursday, June 23, 2016

City consultant's survey discovers the obvious: residents want natural open space and trails, not more city-run recreation programs

Union-Tribune:
The survey found that Encinitas residents ranked preserving natural areas and keeping existing park facilities in prime condition as their top goals.

When given a list of park-related spending options and asked how to divvy $100, preserving and protecting natural habitat areas got the largest share of the money, $25, and increasing trails came in second with $19, said Art Thatcher of GreenPlay LLC, the lead consulting company handling the parks planning project.

Adding an aquatic facility came in third, he said.

28 comments:

  1. And the important of open space is a surprise to city officials?

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    1. Vote No on HEU for more open space!

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  2. How much did THIS survery cost the taxpayers.

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  3. Must have been selective - I never saw one.

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  4. $75,000 survey charged to the taxpayers. GreenPlay did an earlier survey of about $70,000 on how to increase income using parks and recreation facilities. Council approved both surveys. In the meantime, residential streets are falling apart.
    Parks and Rec commission will be taking tours of all the trails behind and in front of residents' homes to plan on increasing revenue.

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    1. A coin-operated turnstile at every trailhead?

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    2. Shaffer would love it. She could add parking meters downtown at the same time. Then she could say she was proud of her decision.

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  5. 5:41 PM
    Perhaps busloads of Japanese tourists.

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  6. 5:30- This was another reason Rudloff was fired. She asked for this money for GreenPlay, and never gave the Parks and Rec. Commission an opportunity to get involved. This ones on both Rudloff and the Council

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  7. I too, never heard of any call to participate in the Greenplay poll. Then again, I choose to never participate in any phone polls without first knowing who sponsored the costs of the poll and what the subject of poll is. Every time I ask for that, I am denied. I then ask to be taken off of their future contact list to no avail. I still get these phone calls. Offers of a free Caribbean weekend for participating in the poll are a suckers bet. Be aware, beware.

    Our local history has shown many instances that have been edited and manipulated to support whatever the funders are seeking, but you can bet it is not about what we want and all about what a certain sect seeks to profit by.

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    1. It was a scientific random sample. And the public was invited to participate online. The scientific results largely matched the public opt-in results.

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    2. 8:19 - leave the house much?
      I wasn't part of the sample, but I did participate online. I believe EU had a link to it! It was an interesting poll - but having a bias towards equine activities I was somewhat miffed that I could not express my desire for better and more equine trails. Maybe if I show up at the Encinitas Community Park on my horse and stage a graze-in until my demands are met?

      - The Sculpin

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    3. Sculpin, maybe is you rode your horse into the council chambers and let it dump manure your demands might be met. Wait, wait, there's already plenty of manure coming from city hall...sorry.

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  8. City to spend $2.5 million designing and building a park. Meanwhile the roads are falling apart, thanks Shafferidiot.

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    1. We don't need any more parks.

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    2. If memory serves, we already have the world's largest aquatic facility.

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  9. Don't we already have an aquatic facility? The city could just rename it the Mizel Pacific Ocean.

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    1. Next - the Mizel planet!

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  10. A pool is a huge cost and should be left to the YMCA. If there is demand for another pool. they YMCA or Boys and Girls Club can fund it like in Solana Beach, and our YMCA. No public subsidy for something so few would use.

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  11. Seems to me everyone was bitching about Peak Democracy and saying since it wasn't scientific, the results should be ignored. Now when there is a scientific sample you still bitch. Never satisfied. Why then should anyone pay attention to what is said here?

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    1. Actually there was very little demand for a city pool. Shaffer is mischaracterizing the results.

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    2. I think that 11:08 misses the reason why people are bitching. The first set of work that Green Play did was completely poor quality since they only targeted people from the Senior Center/Rec Center and Parks and Rec staff. Their first report was shit. Why rehire people like this to do a survey that could have been done for much less money by Parks and Rec commissioners, who would have liked having something meaningful to do. Shaffer always insists on hiring everything out so that she can put her own spin on results--much like Time Baird.

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  12. I'll be satisfied when they contract out all city recreation programs to the YMCA and Boys and Girls Club for management. The city is too inefient to manage recreation programs and they pay those ridiculous pensions that make their employee cost much higher then the YMCA and Boys and Girls Club employees.

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  13. What is the latest on the $20,000,000 living museum? Shaffer, Kranz and Barth are full of great ideas, and in a little more than seven years, they can sell it, develop it, or do something else since this museum thing has been such a hit.

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  14. According to an expensive, multi-colored propaganda piece that Green Play had them purchase, We have 85 acres of open space. However, when a citizen went to our so-called Environmental Planner, Scott Vurbeff and asked him for a map, he told the citizen that she would have to find the information on her own since he did not have a map of the open spaces. If he doesn't have this information, who does??

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    1. 10:06 - try this link.....

      http://www.ci.encinitas.ca.us/index.aspx?page=290

      - The Sculpin

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    2. Sculp proves our point. Vurbeff couldn't direct citizens to the information yet is pulling in six figures. Now maybe Sculpin understands how Vina's 28 Obstructionists might feel. Time to clean house at the city when we have to keep doing their jobs!

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