Meet your new appointed councilman Joe Mosca.
May this work out for the council schemers as well as the appointment of Mark Muir worked out for Jerome Stocks.
And they vote themselves a 45% pay and pension increase to boot. Notice how they do this immediately after an election, knowing that the voters will not remember by the time of the next election.
OMG
ReplyDeleteWhat a bunch of maroons...
ReplyDeleteThey just voted for a pay increase, except Muir who voted no.
ReplyDeleteMaroons? Do you mean morons?
ReplyDeleteMaroon is a color.
EU hit the nail squarely on the head re Mosca!
ignoranamus!
Delete8:35 is correct.
Delete8:28, dincha ever see Roger Rabbit?
DeleteThey pick someone who's behavior will actually make the others look good. Voters will still decide the housing element and economy will decide the fate of overspending council.
ReplyDeleteSheriff talking about problems downtown. Saying "calls for service" went down. Well only because we gave up because you would not respond effectively! Problems are much higher but you like to manage the #'s to look good.
ReplyDeleteMuir voted against Mosca and against the pay increase.
ReplyDeleteMuir is the new darling of the activist community.
Not new. He's been doing right by us for some time now.
DeleteAgree with 9:24. Muir has been a good listener. Also, although we all know his pension is high, he has consistently voted to keep operating expenses down, and has asked hard questions, as someone else here observed.
DeleteMuir' was the lone vote against the developers on behalf of the Hymettus residents, too.
DeleteMuir also pressed the Sheriff's Captain hard on outcome and solving the downtown problems. He also was the only one who voted NO on the Leucadia Club's alcohol permit. His voted has consistantly been in line with our community. If you don't think so, give me ONE example.
DeleteAll I can say is start making videos.
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that the Council got pensions, did any of you? They do and all but Muir said they would take them. Muir asked some tough questions of both Mosca and the Sheriff. Neither of them seemed prepared. Kranz thinks we should take away the benches downtown because it's the homeless people causing most of the problems, and by not having benches maybe they will move on. Lord have mercy.
ReplyDeleteThat's the problem in this city. Too many benches. We need bench control. But the NBA, national bench association says noooooo. Bench don't cause problems, bums cause problems. Talk about a bunch of people with their heads in the sand.
DeleteWe need bench control.
I knew Council Members were eligible for a pension, after serving at least five years. So Lisa Shaffer's household won't add to the four other pensions she and her husband are already collecting. A Council Member in our city must be re-elected at least once, or in Muir's case (although he is declining his Council Member pension), because he served a year as an appointed member, he could have already been eligible, after being elected only once.
DeleteCongratulations, Joe!
ReplyDeleteYou are scum Bob, please go away and back to Smell-A!
DeleteDoes anyone know if Council members get healthcare benefits? They did give themselves a raise, and a lot of people on Encinitas Votes say they think it is fine. What the Council didn't mention is they also get paid for going to other meetings as well. I don't actually remember when EU put up the actual amount Council members made when everything was included, but if I remember correctly it seems as if EU published something showing Jim Bond making quite a bit of money from all of the extra meetings they go to. May Wc will remember?
ReplyDelete$40+ K per year for Bond...
DeleteIt was closer to $60,000+ for Bond when he was on the County Water Authority board and its representative on the Metropolitan Water District board. The MWD position alone paid over #30,000 per year.
DeleteVery disappointing. Short timer carpetbagger picked over some other great applicants. Shy
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, positively cannot wait for Mosca to lose it and watch Blakespear try unsuccessfully to control her new pet.
ReplyDeleteAre you finally ready for flaming torches and pitchforks?? Drive them out. No government is better than bad government.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, this giant raise gets them only about halfway to the $15 minimum wage now common in some major metropolitan areas. How do you figure that? Well, these positions are supposed to be part time but actually require insane hours (with constituent meetings, attendance at events, correspondence, etc. on top of the actual council meetings and official business). So this increase isn't exactly a controversial issue. Give me a break.
ReplyDeleteSecond, I don't understand how those commenting here can jump to conclusions so quickly on Joe. "LA Carpetbagger"? Really? And you've concluded he has a temper issue because of one out-of-context video made by a hater back in is old home town (who also had an axe to grind because they lost an election to him)? Cut him some slack and give him a chance.
There were several highly qualified applicants who have lived in Encinitas a lot longer than Mosca and who have a deep commitment to doing the right thing for the residents.
DeleteMosca is a tool of the corrupt majority. Cheers to Muir for his questions, his motion and voting against Mosca.
If Muir runs again in two years and Mosca does too, chances are the first will win and the second will lose. Mosca was not the people's choice.
When Barth was on council, she said it takes 15-20 hours per week. If you go with the high end and four weeks per month when it's actually three and several other weeks with no meetings, that's $1720 / 80 = $21.50 per hour.
DeleteMuir wasn't the choice of the people either. And to your point, he barely squeaked by in the last election. Joe will have to earn votes. I think he knows that. Let's give him some space to do the right thing. I'm normally pretty sympathetic to the negative commentary here on a lot of issues but I'm baffled by the venom directed at Joe based on no real substance.
DeleteMy take is that the "No on T" group wanted representation on the council and are understandably frustrated - but don't take it out on Joe. And as important as the housing element is to Encinitas, that's not the only issue facing the city. We can't be single issue voters.
+1.
DeleteI'm giving him the space and the rope to repeat his Sierra Madre performances. A leopard does not change his spots.
DeleteAnd if the videos - not video - don't lie, the venom you're hearing is fear. And it's justified fear.
As a No on T person, I don't mind that Bruce was not appointed. I do mind that with all the good candidates, Mosca was. If you watched the council's behavior, his appointment was orchestrated. Catherine looked surprised when Muir didn't fall in line. And we all know how Catherine loves to have everyone in lockstep.
Moosca's evasive response to Muir's questions reminded me of Trump's approach. This moves Muir up a notch, in my evaluation.
DeleteBut now we have a full council with a track record of making decisions and going forward!
Yes, in true Shaffer fashion: "That's already been decided, let's put it behind us and move forward!"
DeleteAnyone who dares question a predetermined decision will be labeled obstructionist and naysayer.
10:52 The No on T group? That's 56% of the people who voted on the issue!
DeleteI did some of my own research about Joe Mosca. And I must say I was not impressed. In Sierra Madre he was known to be for the developers. There were 2 recall attempts. And, he did not seem to play well with others. He did give campaign donations of $250.00 to the three that voted for him. I also agree that when you have as many qualified people as there were in the group that wanted that Council seat, it does seem odd to give it to a relative newcomer to our city. You can do your own research and then wonder "why Joe?" IMHO, I think Brandenburg should have gotten the seat.He actually ran and got 11,000 votes. He had, as they say, "skin in the game". He campaigned, went to the Candidates debates, etc. Why was he passed over when he actually had 11,000 Encinitans who wanted him? More questions than answers right now.
ReplyDeleteSeems pretty simple to me.....it's the state Democratic machine at play here.....
Delete- The Sculpin
The Sculpin is right on this one. Developers donate to the Democrat party directly and to Republican candidates directly. You see...same shit, diff bag.
Deletethe Cabezon
Sculpin- You are often right. However, in this case, I am not so sure. There were plenty of Democratic candidates that spoke last night. If Phil Graham had put in an application, I think he should have received the position. Since he didn't, that left Brandenburg. So, why Mosca? I am puzzled. Granted he did give Catherine, Tasha and Tony $250.00 each for their campaigns. I am usually not a conspiracy nut, but in this case, I just think something is not right. Checking into myself, as I want to know.
DeleteSculpin is mostly right. It's the local Democratic machine at work. The very short council discussion before voting suggests a prearranged decision. Even the idea of postponing the decision for a week was a pretense. Everyone should go back and watch the video on the city website now knowing that Mosca was chosen. All the comments and questions by Blakespear, Kranz, and Boerner Horvath indicate they knew before the meeting that all three knew how they were going to vote. This is a big time Brown Act violation.
DeleteSure there were other Democratic applicants, but Mosca lacks the ethics and morals to have resisted a deal. His history in Sierra Madre shows that. A source close to Blakespear thinks that Lisa Shaffer was involved too. After all both Blakespear and Boerner Horvath are her protégés.
Brandenburg doesn't have the sauce, every time I've seen him at a community forum during a campaign, he's had a very poor command of the issues.
DeleteI think calling Quid Pro Quo on the donations is a cop-out. And the Brown act thing, you're never going to get a result there.
What can I say, I thought Bruce Ehlers was by far the most qualified. Now it's time for Mosca to prove all the Sierra Madre naysayers wrong...
-MGJ
Anybody know why Mosca really left Sierra Madre?
DeleteSpouse really got a job in London.
Deletehttp://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20111215/porn-convict-has-sierra-madre-political-ties
Delete'Pinche mosca' is a libtard/socialist/cultural marxist like the other three. Let's see what this schill can do for the Zionists at Leechtag who now control the Botanical Gardens entertaining pavillion.
DeleteThey do this kind of crap and wonder why we fight them every step of the way. Clearly, they can not be trusted so anything, and I mean ANYTHING, they do should be considered suspect. They just made their own jobs harder by selling out to Mosca. we need to make sure they are working for that extra pay.
ReplyDeleteWhatever housing plan they come up with now is already doomed. A real bunch of idiots they are.
How do you spell Brown Act violation?!
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Delete11:25 I encourage you to review the results of Mr. Trump being elected. Mexico and Canada have both come to the USA to say they are open to re-negotiating NAFTA and trade agreements that stand to benefit American's first- winning for American citizens.
ReplyDeleteWith all the "fake news", propaganda, misinformation and disinformation being put forth by ABC, CBS, NBC, Buzz-Feed, PBS, NPR and CNN you might not be aware that large Manufacturing companies have decided not to invest in Mexico and over sea's plants but to instead invest in the USA and in American workers- winning.
You also might have missed Deutsch Bank's assessment that the government led by an American first Administration could spark global growth and lead to an increase in USA GDP to benefit American citizens- winning.
There is nothing winning about the apparent crooked, incompetent, cronyism and inside dealings at Encinitas City Hall.
Preserve Me First Catherine Blakespear cares not for Encinitas taxpayers or residents- voting for a known outsider with little experience in Encinitas over known Encinitas Citizens with histories of civic involvement.
I can't get a real job Kranz could have chosen to support a candidate that was known to his "deep local roots" but voted for the outsider to benefit his deep developer ties.
The recently elected I know better than you socialist globalist decided the local citizens should eat cake provided her pick espouses her globalist UN Agenda 21 stack and pack goals.
Shameful. Encinitas could use leadership and results like the ones we are now seeing at the national level that put American Citizens First.
Sadly at the local level our council of cronies continue to put the interest of developers, globalists and themselves before the community of residents they fail to represent.
I understand your disdain of globalism. I do not share your view. Regardless, I wish Trump the best. But they're are many challenges ahead, and Trump's cabinet is not in complete agreement with him, so isn't it a little early to crow?
Delete- The Sculpin
3:54pm. BEST analysis and post in ages. You are a leader and a freedom fighter - please keep it up! You give us hope and strength! Let's watch these liberal socialists like hawks and watxh out for Leichtag Foundation!
DeleteGo to Joe Mosca's Facebook page and you will find some answers. He was congratulated by our very own Jerome Stocks. Go figure.
ReplyDeleteJerome is a friend of anyone who gets the nod over Bruce. It would have been a great burn on Jerome had they picked Bruce. It's the city's loss...
DeleteJerome -- the grandpa of financial hurt for Encinitas for Decades. Bad $tock$ cost the taxpayers dearly. Is he still in town. or is he living with his boy toy Assream up in Oside?
DeleteInquiring minds do not want to know but god bless Encinitas.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the closed session that was held before last nights council meeting.
ReplyDeletePredetermined? It couldn't have been more obvious. Too bad for us.
The next two years just got longer.
Lisa Shaffer posted this comment in the North Coast Current in response to its editorial about Mosca's appointment:
ReplyDeleteLisa Shaffer on January 12th, 2017 10:52 pm
I have to say that I question the logic of this opinion piece. Tony Brandenburg ran for City Council three times and lost each time, most recently he came in last. The voters had the opportunity to elect him to the Council and chose other people instead. I have nothing against Mr. Brandenburg, but I would not have chosen him from the list of applicants as the most qualified.
Mr. Mosca, on the other hand, while not deeply rooted in Encinitas, does understand governance, was elected twice in Sierra Madre as the top vote-getter, and as soon as he moved here, he offered his time and talent as a commissioner and then as a member of the Coastal Mobility and Livability Working Group. He can hit the ground running and make a meaningful contribution quickly.
Link to NCC:
http://www.northcoastcurrent.com/dialogue/2017/01/12/editorial-muir-on-the-right-side-of-encinitas-council-vot
Shaffer is an idiot mouth breather.
DeleteHow is it possible that Mosca would be selected to be on the committee that Shaffer is speaking about? I applied and did not get on it. This is getting curiouser and curiouser.
ReplyDeleteDid you happen to gain the backing of regional party bosses and building industry representatives?
DeleteI hear that helps.
Mosca was appointed as a non-voting member of the CMLWG because of his being on the Parks and Rec Commission. His appointment to the council removes him from the committee.
DeleteTony came in DFL, again.
ReplyDeleteThe only way he got 11K votes was we all voted for 3 of 5 candidates. That means 11K people thought he should be somewhere in the top 3. Turns out he got the most votes, with the exception of every other candidate.
By this logic, if crazy Alex Fidel ran again instead of Tony and came in last, council should have picked Fidel? And why? Because he ran and came in last?
A council seat isn't a participation ribbon for people who filled out a few papers to run.
How many votes did Mosca get?
DeleteWe'll see the answer to that question in ~20 months. And I'll bet you a shinny nickel it's more than Tony B.
DeleteThe correct answer is 3. Count them on your toes. They're longer and easier for you to reach.
DeleteHypothetically, if Catherine had to withdraw for personal or health reasons, how many of you would be arguing that Paul Gaspar should become mayor?
ReplyDeleteI'd honestly like people to respond who think that way.
[crickets chirping]
Obviously, the Mosca fix was in. But why?
ReplyDeleteWhy did Bleakspear make the motion to choose Mosca, and why did Kranz and Tasha BH so quickly and conveniently go along?
Why the collusion for Mosca when there were other candidates more qualified and more suitable?
Who run Bartertown?
Delete10:29- Adding to that, why is Jerome Stocks supporting him?
ReplyDeleteWith the unsupported accusations and questioned motives on display these last 36 hours, maybe YOU, dear reader, are ironically to blame for the appointment of Joe Mosca.
ReplyDeleteMaybe members of council placed a a high value on Joe's experience in surviving the crucible of negative politics. Something none of the other candidates had.
Sort of a Lisa Shaffer clone.
DeleteBrandenburg and Ehlers have been involved in local politics for decades. Ehlers led the no on Measure T effort.
DeleteDoes that stuff count of "surviving the crucible"?
Good question.
DeleteNo.
As the saying goes: in the making of a ham and egg omelette, the chicken is "involved"; the pig is "committed."
Choosing Mosca had nothing to do with his having been elected elsewhere.
DeleteThat's not a prerequisite for candidacy or appointment.
The three who voted for Mosca wanted a sure thing in their pocket. The other candidates were wild cards to one degree or another.
There was the danger that a different choice might have stuck to actually representing the residents.
Sacramento Mosca and Blakespear will make a good team.
ReplyDeleteBlakespear will be voted out of politics in two years. Sacramento Joe Mosca will blitz her in the next election.
ReplyDeleteY'all are funny if you think Mark Muir's voting record is an indication of how he truly feels about these issues. It's straight out of the "faux populism" playbook, and y'all all fall for it. He never truly explains his decisions, and when he does, the explanation makes his intentions quite clear. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a longtime resident.
ReplyDeleteMuir is so lame and now one of the "dumbest" on council. The guy's grasp of the English language is atrocious at best. He tries so hard to sound smart, but it's not working out for him.
DeleteIn terms of his votes on council, they mean nothing. He can't ever seem to get the others to go along with his ideas.
So, he sits and continues getting a check for his oh so valuable service.
He looks likes he's gained some big pounds since the holidays. Not good, Mark Muir.
Ahh, see? Here is how Joe Mosca deals with his "enemies."
DeleteMuir's votes are for the people. How or why he comes to his reasons are not of interest to me. His voting record is, and there's nothing "faux" about his support in favor of residents.
Delete"In October, Matheson's laptop was searched as he passed through airport security at Halifax Stanfield Airport.
ReplyDeleteAuthorities said they found 2,500 pictures of naked boys, some engaged in sex acts; 280 videos of boys, some of which also showed children engaged in sex acts.
In addition to the videos and pictures, Matheson's laptop contained lurid short stories, one of which detailed a sexual relationship between a pre-teen boy and a priest.
City officials said they had no idea if any of the underage youth in the photos or videos were from Sierra Madre or surrounding communities.
Matheson maintained ties to several local politicians, including former Mayor Joe Mosca. Besides signing nomination papers for Mosca in 2010, Matheson hosted a fundraiser for Mosca at Matheson's Liliano Drive home.
Mosca moved to Great Britain earlier this year and was unavailable for comment."
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/article/ZZ/20111215/NEWS/111219641
12:46pm Thomas Roger Ogden go away. Why do you pollute this site with your scummy diatribes? Get a life and leave us here in Encinitas out of your crap. Since you live in City Heights or one of those neighborhoods in San Diego, why do you bother with us? Go away and stay. There is nothing for you here.
ReplyDeleteIt's a newspaper article, 3:45. Why all the pouting?
Delete3:45pm Stop trying to vilify and suppress people you mean and bitter bitch! Identify yourself if you've got any balls or ovaries or get your fat ass off this blog!!
DeleteWho is Matheson?
DeleteA Sierra Madrean who was arrested in Canada for carrying a laptop computer chock full of kiddie porn. All male. He was an outspoken supporter of Joe Mosca's City Council run in 2010, and held the campaign kickoff event at his home.
DeleteYou vilify yourself by posting your hate speech here in our community where you are not welcome.
ReplyDeleteRoger doesn't have to identify himself, as his signature is so easily identifiable, even when he fails to include cultural marxists in his standard anti-semitic rants.
I wonder if he posts the same vileness on other community blogs around the county, or whether it is just here in Encinitas. I can't imagine we are the only ones to be on the receiving end of his sick mindset.
Roger certainly has his own style. But it's not the style of the reporter at the Pasadena Star News who has his name on the article. Stop trying to divert attention from Joe Mosca. His appointment was questionable, and the latest news makes it even more so.
DeleteFrom a Pasadena newspaper - 2011
ReplyDelete"In October, Matheson's laptop was searched as he passed through airport security at Halifax Stanfield Airport.
Authorities said they found 2,500 pictures of naked boys, some engaged in sex acts; 280 videos of boys, some of which also showed children engaged in sex acts.
In addition to the videos and pictures, Matheson's laptop contained lurid short stories, one of which detailed a sexual relationship between a pre-teen boy and a priest.
City officials said they had no idea if any of the underage youth in the photos or videos were from Sierra Madre or surrounding communities.
Matheson maintained ties to several local politicians, including former Mayor Joe Mosca. Besides signing nomination papers for Mosca in 2010, Matheson hosted a fundraiser for Mosca at Matheson's Liliano Drive home.
Mosca moved to Great Britain earlier this year and was unavailable for comment."
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/article/ZZ/20111215/NEWS/111219641
http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com/2013/06/bob-mathesons-letters-to-sierra-madre.html
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