Friday, January 6, 2017

Union seeks to open outdoor dining

Legal notices:

CITY OF ENCINITAS PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT LEGAL NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLACE OF MEETING: Council Chambers, Civic Center 505 South Vulcan Avenue Encinitas, CA 92024 [...] It is hereby given notice that a Public Hearing will be held on Thursday, the 19th day of January, 2017, at 6 p.m., by the Encinitas Planning Commission to discuss the following items: 1. PROJECT NAME: Union Kitchen and Tap CASE NUMBER: 15-230 MIN/DR/CDP FILING DATE: August 31, 2015 APPLICANT: Eric Leitstein LOCATION: 1108 South Coast Highway 101 (APN: 258-316-21) ZONING/OVERLAY: The subject property is located in the Downtown Encinitas Specific Plan (DESP) Commercial Mixed-1 (D-CM-1) zone and the Coastal Zone of the City of Encinitas. DESCRIPTION: Continued public hearing to consider a Minor Use Permit, Design Review Permit and Coastal Development Permit application to allow the construction of an enclosed outdoor dining patio area, parking and associated improvements for an existing restaurant. On-site consumption of beer, wine and distilled spirits with an existing Type 47 ABC license are proposed within the new outdoor dining area.

72 comments:

  1. Roll out the barrel! You knew this was coming. Where will they park? The surrounding neighborhood will be thrilled!

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  2. Pathetic.PB north in the making.

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  3. There are over 30 bars and or restaurants that serve alcohol in what is considered Old Encinitas. If you start at the Kook and work your way down 101 to Encinitas Blvd. count them yourself. And, this number does not include stores that sell alcohol.

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  4. As the worst behaving of the bunch, Union shouldn't stand a chance of getting this expansion permit.

    Considering the non stop approvals of every bar that comes along, there appears to be no will but to approve every bar with anything they want.

    Absolutely shameful behavior by the Planning Commission and our city council. Are they our city council or are they the bars city council?

    What they are allowing to happen to what was once a nice safe downtown has been sold out in the name of, here it comes, vibrancy. Makes me want to ralph.

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    1. Union was definitely on the naughty list two years ago, which is the last time council had an update (to my knowledge).

      I think the approval or denial should hinge on whether the bar responded to a slew of warnings in 2014.

      Without cause, it's tough to justify denial with Beachside running a patio down the street.

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    2. city apologist working hard to sound reasonable and failing

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    3. The Taco Stand sells beer and has an outdoor patio. SRF better start filling city coffers with more ca$h or they'll be forgotten....

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    4. 10:34,

      Apologies for sounding reasonable. Forgot where I was.

      It won't happen again.

      Resume shouting nonsense.

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    5. 7:38 yeah it's all about money to your crowd. Pay Muirs rip off pension, we get it.

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    6. except you didn't sound reasonable, 8:37. you folks just aren't very good at this, are you?

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    7. Please 8:37, turn in your temperance card at the door. How dare you use precedence as a reason?

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  5. Don't worry we can complain for another 4 years and when election time comes around, DO NOTHING!

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  6. Most people in Encinitas like the downtown nightlife (which includes the bars). Get a life!

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    1. "Most" people ? You've got multiple personalities?

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    2. 7:43 Speak for yourself only. I suppose you are one of those parents who taught their children that in order to have a good time, you must drink. Just think of how you all are killing yourselves.

      The rest of us, who care about what goes into our bodies, say enough is enough with this crap. We want a sober downtown area.

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    3. 10:09 Speak for YOURSELF! I agree with 7:43!!!

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    4. I'm with 7:43. It's about time. I am not a young fool. I have lived here over 45 years and would be called a senior citizen. I read this blog to laugh at the people that are prohibitionists. Get out and enjoy. Get a life.

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    5. Not prohibitionists, responsible drinking and a level of "vibrancy" in keeping with a quality Encinitas.

      But you know that, 7:19. You sound like the too-typical bar promoter engaging in name-calling to marginalize legitimate concerns.

      You sound creepily like an "EHA" member. What a joke that crew was, not that we didn't see it coming from the start. Self-policing code violators with Marco at the helm ensured nothing would change.

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    6. Then get off your ass and run for council or a seat on the planning commission. All your complaining on this blog has done has is spew hot air while more establishments come online....

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    7. 2:32 what have you done?

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    8. Downtown is where European Americans meet their significant others over beers or cocktails. Don't be intolerant or bigoted over this traditional custom you f'ing kikes, commies and cucks!

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    9. Gotten several candidates elected to the city council over the last 20 years 5:20...

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  7. Looking at the crowd in downtown Encinitas on any given night the people are not from Encinitas. Even during the day at the trendy coffee shops people do not live in Encinitas.

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    1. Looking at the crowd?

      So, if I put together a police lineup, you could pick out the Encinitas resident?

      What do you mean, exactly?

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    2. the party buses are your first tip off, 9:13

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    3. Our hipsters carry their I-phones in their left hands, along with the keys to their Range Rovers...

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  8. Do the young panhandlers downtown live in Encinitas?

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  9. Fricken more PB North.... Really City Council!?

    Whoever votes for this will be on my shitlist.

    Preserve Encinitas. Reject PB North.

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    1. I will actively campaign against any who try to shut down businesses, including the existing and new bars!

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    2. 11:06 No need. The planning commission and city council have preempted you.

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  10. I did a survey with many of my ENCINITAS friends. 92% said they thought the downtown diners and bars were good to excellent and thought we didn't have "any" problems with the bars. There you have, as I speak for 92% of the Eninitas residents.

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    1. Imaginary friends, no doubt.

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    2. 11:02 - thank you very much for your thorough and statistically significant research. Are you working in the sciences by any chance? Brilliant work....

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    3. Yea - Dr. Quackenbush!

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  11. From Encinitas Votes:
    There seems to be a lot of controversy over how many establishments serve alcohol downtown, how late they stay open, how much noise, etc. So, I did a check for myself. I only counted Cardiff walking district, and then went to the Kook on 101 and worked my way north to Encinitas Blvd. I did not count how many liquor stores, 7-11's or markets that sold alcohol, only bars and restaurants with bars. These are the ones I saw. Add to them if you know of more:
    Cardiff Walking District:
    The Office; The Shanty; Best a Wan; 2 Italian restaurants; Rimels, Zenbu, Wine Steals; The Lost Abbey; Quero- are there any more that I am leaving out?

    101 from Chesterfield (The Kook) to Encinitas Blvd:
    The Union; Hamburger place close to the Union; Fish Market; 3rd Corner; Blue Ribbon Pizza; St. Tropez; Solace; Biergarten; Vigilugis; Taco Shop; First Street; Roxy; D. Street; Quero; Beachside Bar; Basil Thai; Japanese restaurant in Lumberyard; Leucadia Pizza. Are there more that I missed?

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    1. Saloon and it satellite.

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    2. Why not restaurant row in Cardiff and all of Leucadia?

      The city report counted 83 selling alcohol on the coast before the new permits were granted.

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    3. In Cardiff south of the lagoon outlet on 101: Pacific Coast Grill, Chart House, Las Olas, Tower 13, and Kraken Bar. The two mentioned Italian restaurants are Cicciotti's and Positano. On the west side of VG Donuts is the new Best Pizza & Brew.

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  12. Good on Ya has alcohol permit sign up.
    Also party busses parking on Vulcan instead of downtown...

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  13. Anyone who doesn't think there is a problem downtown should go take a stroll right now. White Party bus in 7-11 parking lot, meth heads between there and shelter. Shelter at standing room capacity and it's not even dark, guy in front of Urbn pizza shaking uncontrollably and strung out on something, biker gang of eight just roared by with straight pipes, crowd smoking in a cloud at bar just south of taco stand. Next block has the most drugged out looking bunch yet, bikes scattered about, way more cigarette smoke. Is this really what vibrancy is about? Go see for yourself.

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  14. 4:49- I did go see and it was worse than I had thought. I understand vibrancy, but what I saw is what you described and it is just too many drunk, or getting drunk, people out on the streets. I saw a couple of guys throwing something back and forth, I saw someone throw up in one of the trash containers on 101. I wish I had taken my phone and has taken some pictures. If anyone else is going downtown, please take some photos. This should be shared with the City Council.

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    1. Hey, at least I puked in the trash not on anyones front lawn like last year.

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  15. This is not some craft beer crowd like I'm guessing council wants to fantasize are the patrons. Tonight it is actually worse than PB, attracting a very sketchy crowd that is now doing more than just drinking. Getting inebriated it seems is just the starting point. Council go take a real hard look.

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    1. To clarify, each paragraph above links to a different business advertising party bus service in Encinitas. I'm sure there are more. I just googled "Encinitas Party Bus" and picked a few.

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  17. Encinitas is now a major destination for the party/drinking crowd. Basically, this cat is now out of the proverbial bag - the Sheriffs Department must place foot patrols in the downtown area on weekends to control this wildly escalating fiasco.
    Ironic - in the limo ad that 7:28 PM posted a link to are the grounds of an organization that would be strictly against the overuse of liquor!

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  18. Sheriff utilizing foot patrols? Won't happen. They feel more empowered in their vehicles and would argue that they can patrol a grater area and access "situations" faster in a car.

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    1. typo - greater

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    2. With your vast knowledge of police practices I am sure you know they are faster and more effective on foot patrol. If this city wasn't so cheap they would hire enough deputies to stop all the alcohol related crime.

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    3. The hilariously-named EHA - Encinitas Hospitality Association - told a gullible Council "we've contracted with a patrol service," making it sound like they had the bars covered. Had the thought crept into any Council member's head to ask, they would have learned that the contract was for one person.

      The EHA was a joke from the start that residents immediately saw through and Council immediately believed. SOP.

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  19. If our, not in any realistic sense of ours, the Planning Commission and Planning Dept. and our [?] city council want to continue granting every damn bar that comes along, we/they should put an equal number out of business and keep whatever ratio we now have in place.

    I can dream and that is all this thought is worth. This approval trend has to be stopped. No more bars!!!!

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    1. There are several dry counties in Oklahoma. Maybe you'd be happier there. I know I would if you moved and took your ignorance with you.

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    2. Nobody objects to Encinitas being wet. The point is it's way too wet — about 85 places selling alcohol from Cardiff through Leucadia.

      The Encinitas coast has become a drunk party destination for out-of-towners. That has degraded our community.

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    3. Encinitas is young, dumb, and full of cum...let them drink and be merry you Puritans. Since Encinitas was a railroad water stop in the late 1800's, downtown Encinitas has always been for drinking and where all the saloons were located.

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  20. Maya, the Voice of San Diego so called writer[? ] was on the KPBS Roundtable show this weekend and I wonder how she keeps her job.

    The VOSD is in the pocket of developer interests, which is nothing new. Fair and balanced?, not even close. Anyone who has donated support funds to this compromised organization should demand their money back.

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  21. It's Octoberfest every month in Encinitas!

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  22. Voice of San Diego is run by libertarians, even though they're a non-profit.. They are definitely in support of the so called "free market".

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    1. Maya's online presence shows her to be a progressive, not libertarian.

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    2. Maya persistently promotes the viewpoint and side of developers like David Meyer. Calling herself something don't make it so.

      I can think of more apt descriptions for her online presence.

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  23. While I'm no fan of Union (they pretty much suck as a neighbor), I do believe every application should be judged on its own merit, and the City should do more to police existing businesses if there are problems. I spend a fair bit of time downtown at night, and while there are occasional issues, it's nowhere near as bad as so many of you claim, and certainly not even in the realm of PB or OB. So, FTR, I oppose Union's application because it has consistently violated its ABC license by hosting DJs and facilitating dancing. It can't be trusted to comply with permit conditions, so it doesn't deserve a conditioned patio. And before you all go apeshit commenting and casting aspersions, grow up and use your actual names.

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    1. Marco, the city has to take into account cumulative impacts. Now, we all know this is something you like to ignore, but it is real and it should be considered when any new permit is applied for.

      This "property rights" business is starting to infringe on the personal right to safety and peace in one's home and neighborhood.

      But we don't expect you to understand, you're getting paid to spout BS and you happily cash the checks.

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    2. Hey Marco - go find a fireworks stand to make your stand.

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  24. Marco- Do you know what happened to the Encinitas Hospitality Group? I maybe wrong, but I thought you, or maybe it was Dave, were a part of it. Seems to have fizzled out, or maybe it hasn't and I just haven't heard about it. Thanks. Lorri Greene

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    1. Marco championed that farce like it was sliced bread, knowing full well from the start it was a sham. Shameless, but SOP with Gonzalez.

      Supposedly an "environmental attorney" (yeah, right), he doesn't count one's surroundings an environment. Odd.

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  25. You weren't there this past Saturday evening then.

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  26. "In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good."

    --Sun Tzu

    Welcome Marco. I think there are others here who share common ground with you on Union.

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    1. Yeah. Like the other "EHA" bar owners. And the stupid Leucadia Club...there's some common ground there, alright.

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  27. I agree with Marco's comments but would like to add.

    The City really needs to scrutinize every new booze serving use permit.

    In my opinion, the City has already tipped to much like PB,OB and Huntington Beach and more bars and drunks pissing all over the place just makes the problem worse, cost the city tons of money to enforce and ruins the quality of life for all residents. I might be good for party drunks and bar profits, but it suck for other residents quality of life, property values and City finances as a whole.

    Promoting more bars in the City is a bad business model and needs to change at Planning Commision, City Council, and City staff.

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    1. When commercial party buses advertise Encinitas as a destination, you know it is out of control. Marco fiddles while Encinitas inebriates.

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  28. The difficulty as I see it is that there should be little opposition to restaurants that want to serve beer, wine and alcohol. 99% of the time patrons are simply having a drink with their meals, and the parade of horribles that many want to drive the policy discussion are not relevant. However, the 12-2am crowd requires a separate consideration, and is where enforcement can be most effective. Essentially, I believe the city needs to brand itself as extremely tough on late night debauchery (by actually being tough), but accommodating to typical restaurant alcohol service.

    And for the record, the EHA was formed to respond to the City's consideration of a "deemed approved" ordinance. As that issue evolved, the various participants in EHA realized that it really is a few bad actors in town, and the vast majority of them saw no use in carrying the water for those bad actors -- i.e. they wanted to hang them out to dry. So, while Union flouts the rules, Bier Garden (and a lot of others) seeks to follow them. So what benefit does BG get from being in an organization with Union. Nada. Also FTR, I never got paid a dime for offering assistance to EHA.

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    1. Who cares if you got paid for the EHA or not? You associated yourself with a group that clearly was a sham from the start. You couldn't or pretended not to see what the audience cottoned onto immediately the night the group was introduced at council. The EHA was just another failed publicity stunt for you.

      You want the city to "brand itself" tough on violators, but don't lift a finger to help embattled residents.

      Spare us.

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  29. The Sheriff's Dept. has that mega-apocalypse armored vehicle in their arsenal. Park that downtown a few times and terrorize the drunks! Plus the deputies get to play World of War at the same time!

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