What qualifies someone to be appointed to the Encinitas City Council? Two or three years living in the city with little public footprint outside a brief stint on the Parks and Recreation Commission. The one sitting council member to question this? Mark Muir.Click on over and read the whole thing.
As a troika of City Council members — Mayor Catherine Blakespear, Deputy Mayor Tony Kranz and Councilwoman Tasha Boerner Horvath — voted to appoint resident Joe Mosca out of 13 applicants to a vacant seat on the dais Jan. 11, Muir stood out as the one member willing to stand outside the majority in the name of community experience and continuity.
Saturday, January 14, 2017
Editorial: Muir was right on Mosca pick
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This was more than a troika - it has all the earmarks of a predetermined decision that in addition was influenced by Shaffer. Here are her comments to the North Coast Current:
ReplyDeleteTony Brandenburg ran for City Council three times and lost each time, most recently he came in last. The voters had the opportunity to elect him to the Council and chose other people instead. I have nothing against Mr. Brandenburg, but I would not have chosen him from the list of applicants as the most qualified.
Mr. Mosca, on the other hand, while not deeply rooted in Encinitas, does understand governance, was elected twice in Sierra Madre as the top vote-getter, and as soon as he moved here, he offered his time and talent as a commissioner and then as a member of the Coastal Mobility and Livability Working Group. He can hit the ground running and make a meaningful contribution quickly.
Blakespear has gushed more than once over Shaffer, calling her "an intellectual powerhouse" and there can't be any doubt that Shaffer continues to influence from beyond the dais.
With Tasha and Tony in lock step with Blakespear and her idol, we may as well think of the Council as being comprised of five members aligned against the single Muir. Shaffer will be the invisible but firm hand on Blakespear's shoulder.
Shaffer is an idiot, as are her minions.
DeleteShaffer is not an idiot. She is grossly misdirected. It's very hard to figure out what her self-righteous agenda is. The left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand is doing.
DeleteHer agenda is the aptly-named "ALT-Left."
DeleteMuir is one of the most ineffective council members as his "lone" votes do nothing for the community. He should spend more time taking care of himself.
ReplyDeleteHis lone votes are for the community; do you prefer he fall in with the others, who vote against residents? Exactly what would that "do for the community"?
DeleteYou should spend more time getting your facts straight.
Since when did we become such elitist snobs that we are not open and welcoming to those who haven't lived here as long as some? It says more about the person who voted NO than it does about Mr. Mosca. I think it's great to have fresh new perspectives and I think Mr. Mosca will do a good job.
ReplyDeleteWelcome Mr. Mosca.
Don't try to change the topic, 11:03. Stop with the welcoming business.
DeleteTime will show the leopard will not have changed his spots.
Fresh perspectives on a city he barely knows anything about. It's not length of time living here, it's what he knows. Telling us "I'm passionate about our wonderful community" says nothing about what he knows of this community's issues. If he lived here just a year yet was able to tick off a list of key issues to cover that weren't (as the Current called it) "boiler plate" like climate change, then I don't think there would be as much resistance to him.
Delete11:03 is a ringer for Mosca.
DeleteSimilar to the several people who were put up to speak on Mosca's behalf before the corrupt council colluded to choose him.
Choosing Mosca was the new council's first disgraceful act. There will be more.
AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE CAMPAIGN MAILERS FROM KRANZ AND BLAKESPEAR WHO REPEATIVELY BROUGHT UP THE IMPORTANCE OF "DEEP ROOTS" AND "LONG TIME RESIDENT" TO THEN SELECT SOMEONE WITH 2 YEARS OVER SOMEONE WITH 55 YEARS IS SHAMEFUL. THEY SHOULD JOIN MOSCA WITH THEIR VERY OWN FIRST RECALL...
DeletePlease don't SHOUT!!!!!!!
DeleteAmbitious newbies with shallow roots and support from Stocks are red flags for their agenda. Can you spell twenty one?
DeleteThat I can. Add the alt-left members to your flag collection.
DeleteCorruption and conspiracies and paranoia and tin foil hats!
DeleteMuir called out Tony for hypocrisy of voting yes on Measure T as a Planning Comissioner, then cynically pivoting when he thought it would help him run for higher office. He called Tony on it directly from the dais.
ReplyDeleteMuir knows Tony was a hypocrite unworthy of the seat, but he also knew this was a throw away vote, as the other three had the votes.
So Muir decided to pander and be a hypocrite just like Tony.
This is FALSE. Watch 20:05 of the City Council meeting video. It was Tony Kranz who questioned Brandenburg about Measure T. Mark Muir said nothing at all. This is where misinformation and future campaign fibs begin.
DeleteWatch for yourself at http://webcasts.encinitasca.gov/.
11:08 Spot on! Any one who doesn't care what they look like can not possibly care about any one else. Muir is a big bag of wind and he has some people fooled. Not me!
ReplyDeleteBut what 11:08 is patently FALSE. I'll say it again: Watch 20:05 of the City Council meeting video. It was Tony Kranz who questioned Brandenburg about Measure T. Mark Muir said nothing at all. This is where misinformation and future campaign fibs begin.
DeleteWatch for yourself at http://webcasts.encinitasca.gov/.
Shaffer's fingerprints are all over Mosca's appointment. It's disgusting behavior. But it's not the first time that she's been working behind the scenes. Let not forget how she lied about Julie Graboi to get the party endorsement for Blakespear.
DeleteShaffer is a card-carrying member of the ALT LEFT. She has four acolytes on the council now. Expect some extreme opinions from the new council. Shaffer needs to host a Syrian or Somali family in her big, 2-story house and get rid of her car and only walk, bike, or use public transit. Otherwise her words do not match her behavior.
11:33 I think the poster is talking about a different time where Muir called out Brandenburg regarding his vote on Measure T. I clearly remember watching while he did that.
DeleteYou need to dig a little deeper.
Mosca is here to help deliver on the deals his corrupt political party has made with developers. Both in San Diego County and Sacramento. If he succeeds he will move up in the political machine. These assholes babbling about "giving him a chance" or any similar bullshit are either fools or compensated hacks. He failed in Sierra Madre. If he succeeds here the comparison will not be a pleasant one.
ReplyDeleteI am one of the many residents of Sierra Madre that Joe Mosca lied to. I supported him because he said he would approve of the residents voting on development. That was a lie he said to get elected. People who know more about politics than I do have told me that if Joe is in your town now, doing the same thing he did in ours, you must be in the crosshairs of the development industry. That's why Joe is there.
DeleteJoe will be a great help to Catherine/Tony/Tasha in trying to overturn Prop A. Measure T was not their last run at this.
DeleteNote I said "trying."
I live in Sierra Madre too and I saw Joe Mosca meeting secretly with the developers at midnight, plotting to come to Encinitas and take it over. That's the only reason he's here - as an advance scout for the BIA. I think he's also in league with the UN World Government and the lizard people.
DeleteHow deep does that lizard go, 8:39? And does it help you chew your lunch?
DeleteAs the Mosca story develops I think you will find that there are some serious problems with him and his appointment. Google both he and his husband and do your own fact checking. All is not what it seems. You can't have both Stocks and Blakespear both liking him without wondering why?
ReplyDeleteWhat's Mosca's spouse's name?
DeleteBossy Pants.
DeleteBlakespear was terrorized of Brandenberg being on the council because he is more experienced, smarter and could see thru her phony credentials as an attorney. Mosca obviously blew smoke up her rectum and she bought into it. Horvath is a joke - how'd she end up on the council? And Kranz goes along with the program - kind of Dalager II. I'm no Muir fan, but he got it right on rejecting the carpetbagger Mosca.
DeleteMosca's spouses name is Matthey Bosse. He is a licensed physician in Calif. His address of record according to the California Medical Board is: 16734 Lake Park Way, Yorba Linda, Ca., Orange County.
ReplyDeleteHis license is current was issued in Calif. is June, 2001. All of his information is on the Medical Board of California's website.
It's 5:14 again. Sorry Mosca's husband is Matthew Bosse. Kind of makes a difference if you want to find out more to have the right name. My fault.
ReplyDeleteGoogling Joe Mosca and Matthew Bosse doesn't produce much more than what's on this blog and the Tattler in Sierra Madre.
ReplyDeleteIs 12:38 saying there's damaging stuff? If so, what are the links?
This is interesting.
DeletePorn convict has Sierra Madre political ties
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20111215/porn-convict-has-sierra-madre-political-ties
Guilt by association.
DeleteLovely.
Birds of a feather.
DeleteWe could play this game all day, 8:08.
Umm, yeah, if the world runs according to the rules of trite cliches, 9:09.
DeleteWhat's so trite about kiddie porn?
DeleteIt's shameful to slander Joe with kiddie porn because one of presumably many, many supporters turned out to be a bad apple. Better hope nobody you know or have as a Facebook friend or a colleague at work has done anything out of bounds because apparently that counts against you as well.
DeleteJust keep paying attention and all things will be revealed. Man people are working on figuring this out. When Jerome Stocks and Catherine Blakespear support him and Muir and Andreen to not one has to wonder why. The why will be revealed when all of the i's are dotted and the t's crossed. There is layer upon layer of cover up on this and that is all I can say for now. You don't have to trust me. You can just wait and see what is revealed. In fact, please don't trust a thing I say. Just remember you were given all of the information that could be given out at this time without a lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteOh, the conspiracies! You're spending way too much energy trying to figure out the strands of a nonexistent web of conspirators in this little sleepy 60,000 person town. Why on earth would anybody bother?
DeleteMoney, honey. Big development would love a crack at a sleepy though in places decidedly upscale little town. Why are you ignoring that? It is always about the money. Don't be an ass.
DeleteIf the conspirators were that smart and the rabbit hole went that deep, then Gaspar, Graham, and Muir would be running this town (did you read the list of supporters who actually wrote checks for Gaspar and Graham? You'll find all those developers you're worried about). Turns out the three amigos didn't win - and Muir barely eked out a 2 year term after being an incumbent, which is a shocker.
DeleteIf there is a conspiracy of developers, it's a pretty ineffective one!
"please don't trust a thing I say."
DeleteDone.
11:09 sounds like bullshit.
Delete"If there is a conspiracy of developers, it's a pretty ineffective one!"
DeleteTheir position is stronger now.
Yes, just like a mouse being carried in a cat's mouth to its doom - saying to itself, "Aha! I've got the cat exactly where I want it!!"
DeleteThose developers gave a shit-ton of money to losing candidates and now they're exactly where they wanted to be after a progressive sweep.
Clever, clever developers.
Read up on SB 375.
DeleteFrom Shaffer:
ReplyDelete"I'm pleased with the selection of Joe Mosca to fill the 2-year vacancy on the Council. Joe was elected twice to the City Council in Sierra Madre, and when he and his family moved here, he immediately sought opportunities to get involved, serving on the Parks & Recreation Commission and the Coastal Living & Mobility Working Group. He has hit the ground running. Voters can decide how well he's done if he chooses to stand for election in 2018. Congratulations."
Does anyone care if "she is pleased"?
DeleteSo what? She is irrelevant.
Go away Shaffer. Fly on that broom outta town!
DeleteMuir is the lonely guardian of the interests of the people of Encinitas, throwing himself in front of the steamroller of the council majority to save all of us? Right. Remember, Muir was the third member of the Stocks-sponsored troika trying to take over the city just a few short months ago. He is not exactly a beacon of hope and progress for the City.
ReplyDeleteAnd did you really want Tony B taking that seat? Did you see him at the debates? Did you really, truly listen to him? He's not all there and has a very shaky grasp on city issues. Yes, he ran in 2016. And came in dead last. Not exactly the automatic qualifier to pick up an appointed seat.
As for the other 15 candidates, very few had actually served on a commission or had some other evidence of ability to function effectively in local government.
Mosca's appointment is not some sort of outrage... it actually seems pretty logical.
Logical if you want to create a 4-person supermajority you can count on to vote as directed.
DeleteFACTS PLEASE: Give me 1 (ONE) example of Muir NOT supporting the community where the others have since being on the council. He has voted more times with the residents and against the developers then any other councilmember.
DeleteMuir voted for Tony B.
DeleteBy putting him in last place, the community clearly voted that they do not want Tony B on council.
Muir went against the majority of the community.
2:47 — What kind of ludicrous logic is that? Muir went against the majority of the community? Show me where Mosca got any "votes" in the community at all other than the council majority. So tyranny of the "majority" is acceptable? Just because they got the most votes doesn't mean they're free from poor decisions.
DeleteTony got 11,000 votes. Mosca got 3.
DeleteIf Blakespear is forced to resign for personal or health reasons, should the council appoint Paul Gaspar?
DeleteHe got 33% of the vote, to Tony's 17%.
Actually, by the ridiculous rules of this debate, Paul Gaspar should be automatically appointed to Catherine's empty seat because his vote total was the next highest of anyone not actually elected. Now, you want someone who is friendly with developers, Paul is your man.
DeleteWhat experience did the current council members bring when they were elected? Blakespear had one term on the Traffic Commission, Boerner Horvath had less than a full term on the Planning Commission, I don't think Kranz was on a city Commission but he may have been involved with ad hoc committees, Shaffer wasn't on any commission and Muir was a retired fire chief. None of these people "hit the ground running" when they took their seats. But in their campaign literature they all stressed their long time Encinitas roots.
DeleteI have no animosity toward Mosca and I'm not saying it should be Brandenburg but to me the council gave those qualified candidates who are long time Encintas residents a slap in the face. Who cares if an appointed council person has experienced a campaign. If they want to run again that's their problem. What's important is what they bring to the council. The city isn't in any dire situations that won't allow the new person to come up to speed. Mosca needs to spend more time in Encinitas before he can adequately lead us.
Votes for Council Members are spit by the number of candidates running. Same for mayor; but only two ran for mayor this time.
DeleteHowever, with so many open seats on Council, there was sure to be a lower percentage for each candidate.
At first, Tony Kranz had suggested that the person receiving the next most votes, for Council should be the new appointee. He rather quickly changed his tune on that. Phil Grahm barely beat out Tony Brandenburg. And Grahm didn't apply for the position, probably knowing he wouldn't be appointed by the new majority.
Brandenburg did change his tune on Prop T. He voted the right way on Desert Rose, while on the Commission, but didn't stick to his guns re T, when it counted. Also, the North Coast Current and Seaside Courier keep implying that he was a judge in Superior Court. He wasn't; he's a retired Commissioner.
Bruce Ehlers probably could have won a seat on Council, had he run. He was putting his time and effort into informing the public about Prop T, so that we, the voters, could defeat it.
Muir sponsored by Stocks has come to mean nothing, thanks to Muir's consistent pro-resident votes. On the other hand, the years of betrayal by ALT-LEFT Shaffer and Kranz will never be forgotten.
ReplyDeleteNow Blakespear writes she appointed Mosca because of his "team-oriented style." This is code for picking someone who will not get between her and the votes she wants and her agenda carried out, without interference.
Look for more posts like the above from the ALT-LEFT crowd headed by Shaffer. She may be gone ("with gratitude"), but she's still pulling a compliant Blakespear's strings.
8:05 - So now I'm Shaffer's mouthpiece? Hah. Speak for yourself and don't try to group everyone you disagree with into a cabal of some kind.
ReplyDeleteI'm not 8:05, but I've observed a groupthink that includes Barth/Shaffer/Blakespear/Boerner/Kranz and a handful of outspoken resident acolytes.
DeleteOthers have observed this phenomenon and with Mosca installed to the loud clapping and very public approval of the 5, the impression is only growing.
8:05 -- Did someone call you "Shaffer's mouthpiece?" Unless you're Blakespear, your strings aren't being pulled by Shaffer.
DeleteThe irony of Muir's appointment is that when he ran for election, he beat out Jerome Stocks and knocked him out of office. That's some sort of divine justice. Will Mosca do the same to Blakespear?
9:07 That's because they take orders from the Party.
DeleteLiar Lisa is still sending out a newsletter?
ReplyDeleteLike Barf, she is oblivious of how her community holds her opinion of anything.
Please go away. Your time is done. You have nothing to contribute at this much too late date.
9:17 is right. Shaffer's standout characteristics are presumption and arrogance. She thinks she's the cat's meow and knows what's best for everybody else. She thinks her limitless intellect qualifies her to better assess any circumstance and know the best way forward. She's saying, "Follow me. I know everything."
ReplyDeleteHer latest newsletter shows she thinks people want and will heed her instructions.
She's wrong — and ethics? Hah!
To further question why Mosca was chosen over Brandenburg, check out what the Current dug up and posted in its comments this AM from the LA Times in 1986, when he was president of the EUSD board, which was fighting the county over housing density increases in the Quail Gardens area.
ReplyDeletehttp://articles.latimes.com/1986-08-08/local/me-1927_1_school-district
To further explain why Mosca was chosen: he'll be a yes man unlike any of the other candidates.
ReplyDeleteBeginning and end of why he was chosen, and all the synchronized newsletter and commentary content only confirm that. All singing off the same sheet of Muzak.
Brandenburg wasn't chosen because Brandenburg seems out of touch and not entirely up to the task - everyone is talking about him like his giant resume of titles is all that matters but did you hear him talk at the debates? It's like he took a test and didn't study... and has had YEARS to study. Sorry, he's just not the right guy.
ReplyDeleteMosca speaks for the political machine, which is in the pocket of development and real estate interests. He's a puppet looking for a bigger stage. You can babble about local personalities all you want, but this is about money.
ReplyDeleteShaffer is delusional and grossly dishonest.
ReplyDeleteAll 5 Council at Moonlight Beach 10-4 today punching tough shit cards. Get there early.
ReplyDeleteExpect shit eating grins.
DeleteWhat is happening at Moonlight?
Delete9:28,
DeleteBring down your tough shit card and Council will give it one free hole punch. After you collect ten punches, you earn a brand new card!
I love how WC said this would occur back in September 2016!!!
ReplyDeleteSo sad that our council is afraid of conflict/opposite views and prefer group think. I guess we shall see how this alliance pans out. I'm a registered Democrat but I'm starting to think that the Democrats maybe the problem, such as, Schaffer still sending out her newsletter to try and affect the public outcome. I guess they think they know whats best for us.
I wish they would remember what a constituent is - "a person who authorizes another to act in his or her behalf, as a voter in a district represented by an elected official."
It is official. Newly elected Councilwoman Tasha Horvath wants to use a Chicago ordinance aimed at party buses to correct the inaction of previous Councils to control the number of alcohol selling establishments in downtown Encinitas.
ReplyDeletePer Horvath -
"This was an informational item, so there was no action taken, but the Council did provide feedback to have the Sheriff work collaboratively with staff to develop more accurate key performance indicators as well as work with planning on the Sheriff’s recommendation of alcohol licenses. In my entire time as a Planning Commissioner, the Sheriff only once opposed an alcohol license. I also suggested that the city explore a party bus ordinance similar to Chicago to see if that would help make enforcement easier."
" In my entire time as a Planning Commissioner, the Sheriff only once opposed an alcohol license."
ReplyDeleteHow many times did Horvath oppose one? Throwing the Sheriff under the bus while ignoring her part in the problem is another early misstep. Shades of Shaffer....
Maybe she was drunk.
DeleteMuir is the only council person who really represents the citizens of our neighborhoods and community!
ReplyDelete10:39 I'll believe that when he is the swing vote on something that matters.
DeleteThere is an elephant in the room that needs to be address that no one has brought up yet, and I say this as a fellow "white bread suburban" resident. =) But for all its "funky" community character that many claim to embrace, truly different people never make it to city council. What I am saying is, from what I have heard quiet rumblings of, is that leadership in this city did not want someone with "woo woo native american" involvement. That notion disgusts me and disappointing. I have seen it in mean comments against Brandenburg despite his experience and longtime knowledge of the community. No one as explained WHY he was not qualified other than he was"last". Liberal and conservative alike fall into this trap and I am seeing it in sad Encinitas.
ReplyDeletecouldn't agree more; not to mention the ageist remarks I'm seeing as well; that's all the opposition has???
DeleteToo much political correctness! Facts are facts!
DeleteHow pray-tell is 'low energy' and 'woo woo native american' FACTS?
DeleteIt would be freakin' awesome to have someone of Native American heritage on the Council. It's utter bullshit to say that's why Tony B wasn't picked. Of all the candidates for mayor or council, he had the least knowledge of the issues and no concrete plans other than to oppose Measure T (which was the foundation of his campaign... but his campaign didn't seem to go any further than that).
Delete3:13- You have a good point that personally I had never thought about. Lisa Nava applied and she also had excellent credentials. We all knew Ehlers wouldn't make it, as the Council does not want any conflict, as per Catherine's own newsletter. However, a complete unknown to most of us, managed in 2 short years to get on a Commission and to get on the Working and Livibility ( or whatever they call it) group. Many were turned down for that, including some very good long time residents. Whoever said "follow the money" is spot on. Mosca is here for a reason. He did the same thing in Sierra Madre as Tony Kranz did to us on A. Kranz had the first meeting about A at his home. After he got elected he flipped and we all know about this. Mosca did the same thing in Sierra Madre. Their's was called Measure V, and it effectively did the same as out A and T. Mosca said he wanted slow growth, supported it, and then flipped once he was on the Council. The odd thing about him saying he and his husband went to London because his husband, a physician, had an amazing opportunity to work with HIV. You would think that would have been a news story in Sierra Madre, or surrounding cities. However, there was no press coverage, and I could find nothing when I Googled it. Maybe someone can ask what research organization, or pharmaceutical company he worked for? Mosca is here for a reason, and some of us are working on what is really going on.
ReplyDeleteBrandenburg is old, tired, lacks energy and doesn't know the issues. He demonstrates that as a planning commissioner and did the same in his campaign.
ReplyDeleteThose reasons are why he wasn't elected to council. They played a part in his not being selected for the fifth council seat.
The fix was in for the corrupt council to choose Mosca. The why remains to be seen.
3:47: "Lacks energy." Said like a true Trump supporter. ;) (I'm not saying you are necessarily, it's just ironic.)
Delete3:51
DeleteBeen to PC meetings? Went to candidate forums?
If so, saw Brandenburg's low energy and lack of command of the issues.
Not ironic and has nothing to do with Trump.
Okay fine, but as 3:51 said, you sound like Donald Trump. If they don't fall in line with you, they're low-energy, tired, and/or old.
DeleteGeez, how ridiculous!
DeleteBrandenburg is old, tired and low energy. Those are observable facts that have nothing to do with Trump.
Because somebody uses the term "low energy" that makes him Trump? Absurd!
Tired and low energy are subjective, not observable facts. I judge you to be a Trump supporter based on your use of his own language against his GOP foes, but that's not a fact, it's an opinion. People like you who cannot distinguish between subjective opinion and fact are the ones dooming us politically.
Delete12:00 Brandenburg dozes off during planning commission meetings. His campaign was lackluster, he did not have a grasp of the issues during the forums. Those are facts, not opinions. I am not a Trump supporter, and you are an asshole!
Deleteso this one [136am] uses Trump terminology, then gets all upset insisting he [or she] is not a Trumpite, then results to more Trump style lewd namecalling ["asshole"] to defend themselves. brilliant and mature.
DeleteI didn't support Brandenburg's appointment, but I don't appreciate people labeling him "old." We're all getting older.
DeleteDozing off while on the bench, or at the dais, is not good.
I think with the new "e-comment" option, the Clerk should inform the public of how many e-comments came in, and whether or not the support a particular staff recommendation, or appeal, or a particular candidate. This would encourage more people to participate, and would encourage Council to be more accountable.
Oh no! More conspiracy theories! A doctor's move to London orchestrated by terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad developers! They have tentacles everywhere! And crazy Tony Brandenburg given the shaft by the groupthink council so that the developers can pave over Encinitas with Mosca as their willing tool!
ReplyDeleteY'all are pretty much saying: DON'T TAKE US SERIOUSLY AT ALL HERE AT EU!!!
Blow up.
Delete3:49- Mosca flipped just as Kranz did. He gave the max. money to all 3 of the Democratic council members on the City Council. He is well connected to the Dem. Party. He says he is a lawyer but the State Bar doesn't show him as having a license. That's just for starters.
ReplyDeleteJoseph Michael Mosca - #204788
Deletehttp://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/204788
He does seem to have given up the practice of law for a career of a flack for Big Gas. Anyone know why?
DeleteSecure employment. There are far too many lawyers in California. It's hard to make a living. That's why Marco whores out.
Delete5:33 PM There is gold in them that hills when you sell out to the right interests!
DeleteTony B got 17% of the vote.
ReplyDeleteSeven.
Teen.
Percent.
There are a crap ton of folks in town, including Mosca, would would destroy Tony in a head-to-head election.
In less than two years, Mosca will be on the ballot. Who wants to bet Tony B will get more votes? Anyone? Bueller?
Who gives a shit? If Mosca can't cram some dumbshit development down the throats of the folks here he will have failed. Any idiot can ponce around on a city council. The real test will be if he gets done what he was planted here to do.
DeleteWhat's ironic, to me, is that Kranz, the first time he ran, got the next most votes, but Muir was appointed.
DeleteIn my eyes, Muir has done a better job representing what the people want. Kranz did flip, as did Shaffer, after they were elected.
The majority of voters probably know little about local politics, and don't want to get involved. Many of them just go along with Party recommendations. Our City is becoming more Democratic, from what I've observed. However, Council, and the mayor, are supposed to be non-partisan. The appt. of JM was a partisan decision.
Unfortunately, both the Democratic and Republican parties appear to be pro-development. I sure wasn't for Trump, but as he says: "Sad."
If any of the four had balls or lady balls and wanted the council to actually represent the residents, they would have chosen Ehlers.
ReplyDeleteThe council members are corrupt chickenshits. Total hypocrites.
They're ALL so "low energy" ... catchphrase of the political season.
DeleteMuir is the ONLY councilmember who cares what the residents think!
ReplyDelete6:09 Of course he cares what the residents think. You are providing him with an enormous pension. He is beholding to you! Get it???
DeleteYea - he got this one right.
DeleteThe closed session before the council meeting must have sealed the deal.
ReplyDeletePredetermined? Of course it was. Council just went through the choosing process for appearance sake.
Name Status Number City Admission Date
ReplyDeleteMosca, Joseph Michael Inactive 204788 Encinitas December 1999. His attorney license is inactive in the State of California. In the most recent article published by Encinitas Advocate I get the impression he is saying he practices law in Cali, which would be illegal if he is practicing without a license.
He works for SDG&E.
Delete7:24- However the Encinitas Advocate also says he practices law as well.
DeleteJoe Mosca
DeleteMajor Projects at San Diego Gas & Electric
Location: Greater San Diego Area
Industry: Utilities
Current: Major Projects at San Diego Gas & Electric
Past: Strategy Manager at Southern California Gas Company, Public Affairs Manager at Southern California Gas Company, Senior Associate Attorney
Education: Quinnipiac University School of Law
Rhode Island College
Don't forget that Marco offered to represent the City pro bono to undo both A and T. And then he would defend it in a courtroom. Democracy at work-not!
ReplyDeleteConspiracy theories running strong on Encinitas Votes led by the shrink and her merry little followers. These people have nothing better to do with their time. If they were all so great, why are they not in a leadership position? Curious minds would like to know. They all like to sit back and Monday morning quarterback. The shrink is a real circus ringleader.
ReplyDeleteDisagree with what people say, even complain about Monday morning quarterbacking, but why be so nasty and derogatory?
DeleteJoin the Encinitas Votes owner and contributors in standing in a circle, holding hands and singing Kumbaya.
DeleteSee? Joe plays rough.
DeleteTough?
DeleteCircus ringleader?
Kumbaya?
That's not tough.
Tough is implying some connection to kiddie porn, when the object of your slander did nothing wrong. Particularly nasty when it plays to ancient stereotypes of gay people.
Tough is suggesting a Brown Act violation in closed session without a shred of evidence.
Tough is a former elected official who should know better leading the mean girl middle school lunch table rumor mill.
Encinitas Votes has jumped the shark. The latest posts are nothing but a four-person echo chamber of ugliness.
Where on "Encinitas Votes" is the suggestion that Mosca had something to do with child pornography? I believe the term for what you are doing here is lying. In a bald faced kind of way.
DeleteIt's the same people.
DeleteThey post here the stuff they don't want their names attached to.
If you want to know who is posting something anonymous here, take careful note of syntax, odd phrasing or word usage, non-standard punctuation. It's pretty easy to define a fingerprint of authorship. The same fingerprint shows up on EV, only with the name attached. It's called Stylometry, and software tools are getting pretty good at it.
More here.
9:17 PM and 6:58 AM -- I don't see the problem with Encinitas Votes. Are you afraid of what it posts? It seems you have Encinitas Votes confused with Encinitas Undercover.
DeleteCatherine Blakespear, Tony Kranz, and Tasha Boerner Horvath selected Joe Mosca because of his vast experience and he could hit the grounding running. Lisa Shaffer said similar things. This means being fully informed about his background. What are you afraid of? Any allegations proved true will be serious. If proved false, they will fade away.
Oh, please, 9:45. What are folks afraid of?
DeleteThat Joe will ensure Blakespear and Shaffer get their votes their way, every time.
That by all appearances, this was the first in what will be a long line of Brown Act violations. Rewatch the video and see how Blakespear helps out Joe as he stumbles over his response to Muir's questioning. Watch how quickly she moves to appoint him.
Hard evidence? Without paper trails, of course there isn't any. That doesn't mean Mosca's appointment doesn't stink to high heaven and that stink will not fade away.
The point is there were candidates equally or more qualified than Mosca who have lived in Encinitas longer and who are far more familiar with the community and the issues.
DeleteThe three wanted a candidate whom they perceived as safe to agree to impose their agenda.
Time will tell.
11:16,
DeleteHas city council ever made a decision you disagreed with that wasn't a conspiracy?
Has it ever happened that you just simply disagreed, but the majority on the council was acting in good faith?
If so, can you give us an example?
I'm sure 11:16 is working on it.
DeleteOff point, 4:29.
DeleteThere were candidates more qualified and more appropriate than Mosca.
The council didn't have the courage or honesty to appoint someone other than Mosca.
Muir has indicated that he may not run again. That would be very unfortunate for our city. I wish he would run for Mayor!
ReplyDeleteI agree with 10:35!!!
Delete10:35 I hope he doesn't run again. We need some one who can think and speak the English language properly. So tired of him talking to the ceiling. He is mumbling more and more each meeting. Not a good health sign.
DeletePaper trails to come. However, since he is a lawyer anyone has to be careful of what they say. He knows that, as does Catherine and Marco, if he is involved. I just went over to Encinitas Votes and every newspaper coverage that was local is there. So "the shrink" is influencing exactly who? When someone posts a little after 2AM, and calls Lorri "the shirk", his favorite word for her, I wonder if it is Jerome? Yes, I think it is.
ReplyDeleteLorri is a naive Pollyanna. The site sounds like an ice cream social for kids.
Deletethe shrink has to interject her thoughts on every subject. It would be nice if she would just shut the hell up. She really isn't the brightest bulb on the block.
Delete1:17, you're living in the wrong country. Freedom of speech ring a bell? Nah, didn't think so.
DeleteWhat is it about her comments that is so threatening to you that you want her to "shut the hell up?"
11:18- In what way is she a naive polyanna? Not sure what that even means. I suggest you not bother going to the site if you don't like it. Maybe you don't because you actually have to post your name?
ReplyDelete"Nowadays, "Pollyanna" has morphed into a
Deleteterm meaning someone who has a superficial,
naïve, rose-colored-glasses view of the world."
I appreciate that those who post on Encinitas Votes are willing to share their names. Anonymity can lead to intentional rumor starting, cyber bullying and more. Obviously, Encinitas Votes, and its moderator(s) have annoyed some, here, who like the freedom to cast aspersions without backing up their (often warped) perspectives with facts, and without standing by their opinions by being willing to reveal their identities.
DeleteWell Encinnitas Votes just posted an article on Issa. How is that Polyanna like? I rally don't get your hatred of Lori. What did she ever do to you?
ReplyDeleteHatred? Do you really not know the difference between a characterization of naive Pollyanna and hatred?
DeleteAnd another about quotes from Mother Theresa. Are you kidding? The Issa thing is about storing nuclear waste. That's hard hitting on the cruel, self-promoting Issa, right?
DeleteJerome- You really should just not bother with Encinitas Votes and, for that matter, Lori. You and she have a long, nasty history. Anyone that has been around, knows that. So, man up and do something constructive. At least she is moderating a FB group. And, I have looked at the posts, and she gives equal opportunity to all news media, etc. And, of all people to call Polyanna, I would not pick Lori. She is not naive. She has been involved in our city for 30 years, having spent 6 of those years on the Parks and Rec. Commission. She does know where the dark secrets are buried. She also has institutional history, going all the way back to incorporation.
DeleteLorri is lame!
DeleteDr. Lorrie refused 'his lownesses' drunken advances a party. She could have sued the heck of him and chose to let it slide.
ReplyDeleteHe, like the orange ape, finds it hard to let anything go by without going on the attack, when it would to his advantage to just leave it alone.
Once a bully, always a bully.
If you posters are so adamant that this Mosca is so bad, why don't you start a recall drive? You could recall him and all the council persons that appointed him. That would make a lot more sense than you just bitching on this blog. Get some nerve and take some action!!!
ReplyDeleteStart the petition! Me and many of my neighbors will sign it!!! When I tell people that the council selected someone who was once almost recalled (within 150 votes) with 2 years over someone with 55 years - that's all they need.
ReplyDeleteWhy am I not surprised that you'd lie to your neighbors?
DeleteIn fact, there never was a recall election for Joe Mosca, because the people attempting the recall couldn't get enough signatures on the petition to put the issue on a ballot.
Only 150 short is still a good effort...and still looks bad on Mosca.
DeleteWhen's the last time we had a recall effort here? Oh, that's right - never. It's not exactly an everyday occurrence.
"once almost recalled (within 150 votes)"
DeleteJust for clarity, this statement was false, right?
ummm...no.
Delete5:32, Click through to the archives of LA County election results--> HERE. Now, show us where we can find the results of the Mosca recall election.
DeleteI'll save you some time. Here's another link to the sour grapes dude--> HERE. He says: "And a petition calling for the recall of Joe Mosca was circulated, and had a few hundred additional signatures been gathered that too would have been the subject of a Citywide vote." But they weren't, and it wasn't, because there was no recall election.
Look up Measure V. The election that killed Mosca's chances for political advancement in Los Angeles County.
DeleteThe issue is whether the commenter is lying to his neighbors if he/she claims there was a recall election.
DeleteWhat's your position on that specific lie?
That you're an asshole?
Delete5:17 has never been humble enough to admit a mistake, acts out and calls names when backed into a corner with actual facts.
DeleteA sign of weakness.
Sure, asshole.
DeleteMosca, the fly boy, is a bad call. A total talking bobble head.
ReplyDeleteWTF?
Spam post! This exact same thing posted on the next thread. And content free, besides!
Delete8:14am. Raging, and all in capitals, no less. Me thinks Roger has some latent tendencies that he is dealing with.
ReplyDelete8:14am. Raging, and all in capitals? Looks like Roger has some latent tendencies that he has to deal with.
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