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GASpar to all the little children at the meeting tonight: READY, BEGIN. PLACE LEFT ARM BEHIND BACK AND CROSS FINGERS.
ReplyDeleteEXCELLENT! I SAID EXCELLENT!
Mr. Spicoli--er, sorry. Mr. Fidel?
ReplyDeleteMarijuana is haram.
ReplyDeleteDid Gaspar bring her rocks and sand tonight?
ReplyDeleteBuds and coke.
DeleteCatherine must've read the blog today and piggybacked on the water waste issue. If she was so concerned with the sprinklers using too much water at the park, she could've call the water district herself. In fact, if anyone sees any water being wasted, Email your concerns to: drought@sdwd.org. One would think the city council might take the time to announce this information at tonight's meeting.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The council should have said something about the water restriction and I hope and assume that those who serve on the Water Board (and their families) will be adhering to the same restrictions as placed on ALL residents.
DeleteThe minute I saw FAKEspear sitting there, the channel got changed. I can not look at that woman. She is too distracting to the meeting.
DeleteCatherine is a grade grubber-
DeleteCB stated in oral communications that she did call SDWD, personally.
DeleteWhere was Blakespear when Vina Barth and Shaffer were KIlling Rossini Creek - courtesy of USS Cal Builders?
Delete11:44 If she called SDWD, why come to the meeting? She just wanted to be shown on the tube again and announce she was running for council.
DeleteWe get it, FAKEspear, and that is why you don't have my vote.
Julie Graboi all the way. Go Julie!
Interesting Gaspar refused to look at the speaker who outed her on the secret Mike Andreen informational meeting for selected landowners. Her handlers must be huddled about now figuring out how to spin that puppy.
ReplyDeleteMore information - please provide details.
DeleteWatch the first speaker at oral comms. Draw your own conclusions. You won't be able to see Council faces, so "details" won't matter that much to those who weren't there...unless you're interested in the fact that Barth began making smirky faces fairly early on in the presentation.
DeleteBarth seems to be smirking most of the time. But the faces she makes aren't as painful now, as those she made when she was mayor/chair for 1.5 years.
DeleteSpeakers aren't cut off by Gaspar, as with Barth, the moment their time is up.
GASpar is too busy writing things down while someone is speaking. Clearly, insulting at best.
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Once again, the princess and muir voted no on OUR bag ban. wtheck. Please buy a clue and join us. Thanks to the majority for upholding our city's leadership on this symbolic effort.
ReplyDeleteAs was stated, millions are being waged to defeat this on the state level so it makes it all the more important for us here to do what we can and why not Mark and Kristen? Who is influencing your reluctance to join this effort? Surely it is not just about being disagreeable to the majority.
How many votes do you think you garnered tonight with this stance on something that couldn't be simpler? There were issues that went unaddressed by the public speakers and were not on the agenda but they will show up at the candidates forum, so breathe easy while you can until then. You know who you are and we do too.
That mikey bit was a classic and who would be surprised by anything he has his hands in. He never fails to lower the bar for decency and integrity. Anyone who associates themselves with this character should know better and it will be to your demise if you do.
"Mikey bit"? For those that didn't watch the spectle, some background is needed.
DeleteYeah well the mikey bit was also the gaspar bit: what the hell is she doing holding meetings with special landowners, helping mikey tell them about the merits of upzoning their land??
DeleteSounds like the beginnings of an end run on prop A to profit a very few. Gaspar + Andreen = beginning of the end of her campaign, IMO.
9:07 you are delusional - all 5 council members lied on the A ballot statement- All 5 council members ignored Vina withholding fiancial data from the public, all 5 council members have increased debt while underfunding projects, all 5 council members sided with developers at Desert Rose-
Deleteyou have no point, until you are ready to hold all 5 accountable your attempts to prop up Shaffer Kranz and Barth are contrived- I see thru it
I think that is one of the reasons Barth didn't run, she knew her lies on Prop A would come out in the mainstream public and she'd be even more malgned then she is today. Barth Stocks adn Dalager- 3 of a kind
DeleteOh, I'm not contriving anything against just gaspar. All five are in on the secret notification to certain landowners and greenhouse property owners. All five want to kumbaya about the new transparency and happiness at city hall. All five are conspiring against all 60,000+ of us.
DeleteIt is true though that all 5 did not align themselves with Andreen to tout the benefits these few would derive from upzoning. Only Ga$par did that.
Delete10:12 BS- Mayor Barth and Deputy Mayor Shaffer let Andreen lead the oppose Prop A effort- having him to speak to council
DeleteShaffer Barth adn Kranz are no different that Muir Gaspar Stocks and Dalager- should we actually think Blakespear will be any different?
Oooh 7:57, I do stand corrected. They did allow him to lead. He's always in the background, ready to do anyone's bidding and that's why he comes in so handy for the Council/developers/really anyone.
DeleteAndreen is friends with Gaspar and Muir. That says it all. These two council people are getting nothing accomplished with their constant "NO" votes. Stay home you two so we don't have to pay you.
ReplyDeleteCouncil and the mayor are paid by the month, whether they stay home or not.
Delete11:50 Gaspar and Muir voted no to $13M in new debt that would have saved taxpayers $750,000 a year for 30 years. That money could have gone to fix roads, parks and safe schools- Gaspar and Muir said yes to responsible spending- Barth Kranz and Shaffer now want to raise our taxes. I say yes to responsible spending, why do you and BSK say no? How much of our money do you want to take?
Delete7:56- we are govt. We want all if YOUR money to do as WE please. Don't like it ?? Tough SHIT!! Now stop your but bitchin' and pay up.
DeleteWho supplied the homeowner addresses to andreen so he could send out his invitation? Ga$par?
ReplyDelete9:11 It wouldn't surprise me a bit about Gaspar, along with her "sneaky" husband.
DeleteOperators lining their pockets by catering to the caviar crowd.
DeleteWhy should it come as a surprise that Muir and Gaspar voted against the plastic bag ban? They are consistent and not flip-floppers like Kranz and Shaffer have been on so many items. Oh, that's right, Tony and Lisa never proposed a sales tax raise, I forgot. At least Tony knows what reconsider means, unlike Lisa Shaffer. He reconsiders all the time (see Prop A, Desert Rose, Sales Tax Hike, etc.).
ReplyDeleteAsst. City Manager Richard Phillips said something about 60 businesses being effected by the State's ban, which has already passed the State Assembly and Senate, and is likely to be signed. According to Phillips, 150 businesses would be affected by the City's ban. He said the only difference is that the City's ban also affects liquor stores??? How could there be 90 liquor stores? Someone on Council, was it Shaffer? Or it could have been Barth? said that the bag ban by the State would only affect "big box stores." That's not what Richard Phillips reported.
DeleteKranz, Shaffer and Barth seemed to be drawing conclusions without any evidence from Phillips, who gave the staff report. A question that was implied, but remained unanswered, if, as someone claimed, there is a massive effort to qualify a referendum for the ballot, which could delay the new State ban, and that referendum succeeded, would it eliminate all municipal bag bans?
It was stated only Solana Beach in San Diego County has a city bag ban. If the State law is signed by Governor Brown, as expected, will it supersede our local ordinances, or can our local ordinances be more restrictive? Didn't Glenn Sabine before give his opinion that the state bag ban would override our local ordinance?
I heard it differently.
DeleteState Law would affect 60 businesses, the local ordinance would affect 300.
I believe the state law only applies to businesses that sell alcohol, which would obviously include all grocery stores and most drug stores. I think the local ordinance would expand the scope to include other types of retail establishments (hardware? clothing? fast food? thrift stores? hobby? bike shops? etc.)
I still want to know what andreen is doing openly conducting city business with ga$par'$ complicity.
ReplyDeleteI want the answer to that question also. Fess up GASpar.
DeleteShe has a meet and greet coming up - corner her and record it for YouTube.
Deleteplastic bag - most of the people I talked too don't want to do more then the state.
ReplyDeleteAnd wouldn't the state bag ban be the controlling law?
Deletein this case the local ordinance (adopted prior to state) would be the controlling law. the city would penalize small businesses.
DeleteI think granny Barth was itching to have that Community Room at the Library named after her. She has a very devilish side to her that we have seen time and time again.
ReplyDeleteThat was strange. I thought that, too; Barth gave the impression that she'd like the room named after her!
DeleteBarth is the same as Stocks- she increased debt, underfunded projects, demeaned those with opposing views and did business behind closed doors while letting Vina withhold financial information on budgets and planning
DeleteI supported Barth- she turned out to be a self-centered me first egoists
Barth may ante up a couple of thousand dollars for the honor but doubt that the council would agree to a name change. More likely that the Mizel foundation, with president Larry Mizel who is also chairman of Richmond American Homes, will pay for the honor.
ReplyDeleteNaw. Teresa knows it would cause too much confusion at the Library with newcomers asking "Which way is the Barth room?"
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA, good one.
DeleteNo room for her in Encinitas.
DeleteAgain, excellent.
DeleteRe the discussion on the Cannabis Initiative that will be on the ballot. If Council couldn't use City resources to advocate for or against an initiative, how could they use City time and taxpayers' dollars to advocate against Prop A, writing ballot arguments against it?
ReplyDeleteAnd once again, it sounds, from the public speakers, as though City Attorney Glenn Sabine's so-called "impartial analysis" of the ballot initiative is anything but impartial. Council enables Sabine's disservice by allowing him to call his false conclusions, pushing the City's agenda, "impartial facts."
Council voted unanimously to oppose allowing Cannabis cooperative dispensaries in Encinitas. They wanted to do so by resolution, but just put it in the minutes, after Sabine told them they could only "educate, not advocate." Again, what about their advocating against Prop A?
The Brown Act only states that the public cannot be required to provide their address or any personal information, in order to attend public meetings. But there is no requirement, at all, that public speakers cannot be required, as has been traditional, to state their names, and city of residence. Most of the speakers against the Cannabis Initiative lived outside of Encinitas.
Alex Fidel did a good job, and so did an attorney who spoke in favor of Council letting the voters decide, remaining neutral.
Odd that there was no mention of Prop. A. The council and city attorney discussion sounded like they had never been through an initiative before and actively opposed it. Everything indicated that they were being very careful not to violate the law. This probably indicates that they realize that they did on advocating against Prop. A.
DeleteWhy didn't the council, since the opposition was unanimous, write the ballot arguments against the marijuana initiative? Or did City Manager Gus Vina play a role in preventing this because he had supported marijuana dispensaries in Sacramento as an income generator for the city?
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Small town politics - Gaspar runs for council as a political novice and wins on stunts and PR mailers. Her "credentials" as
ReplyDeleteCFO are sheer puffery - maybe secretarial at best. Does nothing for 4 years, except what her lobbyist handlers tell her. The husband knows catering to the developers and big monied interests will pay off, so they don't even disguise their allegiances. Now the BS campaign starts, with the assumption that the majority of the voters are clueless and will respond to the Pavlovian images of a fiscal conservative and Mom and apple pie. Sad thing is - it'll probably work! But what is at stake is community character and public indebtedness for years to come - she needs to go.
9:22 I am no fan of Gaspar and completely agree. Look at the others side-
DeleteShaffer Barth and Kranz lied on Prop A, they voted increase debt, they underfunded projects to screw residents. Shaffer and Barth misled residents with newsletters, BSK increased fees, BSK looked the other way when Vina withheld financial data-
Barth Shaffer Kranz Gaspar Muir and Blakespear are all the same- reckless spenders and high density supporters-
So what if you are correct... She's endorsed by the Sheriffs and Fire depts. They are never wrong, they know who wants them to have giant salaries and pensions.
DeleteGaspar was in such a rush to make her developer friends happy, she teamed up with Mike Andreen. Not only with Mike Andreen, but to help the City work against us second-level residents not on the "notified" list.
DeleteTime to out Gaspar for who she really is - perhaps Mom, definitely not Apple Pie - and tell your friends and neighbors. Her win is not a guaranteed and her loss depends on word of mouth to those who don't follow local politics closely.
10:13 Shaffer gets 4 taxpayer pensions and barth gets one as well- barth and shaffer gave vina a positive job review- and paid his cabinet-
Deletespending is a problem for all 5 council members- we need new leaders- graboi and cameron might be the best chane
Yeah, only candidates that are completely funded and controlled by Pam Slater Price and Bruce Ehlers should be elected to office: stop those out-of-town developers: like Pam Slater Price's husband, Hershel Price.
DeleteWait a minute, let me start over.
Only candidates like Julie Graboi whose husband is comingling funds with North Coast Advocates that have $400K left over from their battle with WalMart to spend on Sheila Cameron and Julie in Jim Kydd's paper. Even though the Non-profit isn't legally allowed to spend their financial spoils on political campaigns.
No problem, says Bruce, he's never been scared to violate FPPC state election laws. Need a political loan over $250?
No problem says Jim Kydd who, if he hadn't admitted to allowing Prop A to have thousands of dollars in FREE political advertising, the identity of at least one former Supervisor's checks would have had to be reported to the FPPC and the Vista courts.
Sheila did nothing to control spending during her previous time in office.
DeleteVote Marco.
2:46 apparenty own 6 weeks to the election, Jim Babwe has ade an apppearnce and seen his shadw
DeleteI'm still backing Tony, he's a better option than Gaspar, shining light of the continued dark side of Encinitas politics. Check your mailbox for a bs mailer...
Delete2:46 = total bullshit.
Delete1:47 Name Shaffer's four taxpayer pensions.
Ask Shaffer- she keeps it all real close to the vest and doesn't like to talk about it. What is Shaffer hiding, and why?
DeleteGlad to see the Council unanimously oppose the pot shop prop.
ReplyDeletePeople with cancer and chronic pain should have access to any compound or substance that their Doctor thinks might provide relief. That's what the state initiative was about.
Fortunately, they already have access. Even people seeking a recreational high can get access with a flimsy excuse. Storefronts are simply unnecessary and undesirable.
Let's liken this to the battle over F-Street. People have a right to freak however they want in the privacy of their own homes, and they can get whatever illicit tools or toys they want online or in neighboring communities. If you want that stuff, you already know where to get it. There's no need to setup a storefront here.
So it's ok to have the pot shop and the porno store in the neighboring town, but not in your city? Kind of hypocritical. Marijuana legalization is a legit topic as far as legalization. If people need it, they have to get is somewhere.
Delete"Marijuana legalization is a legit topic as far as legalization."
DeleteWith reasoning like that, you should consider putting the bong away for a while.
Again, for people with a medical need, access is no problem right now.
3:52,
DeleteHipocracy? Perhaps.
Let's talk about a few more things we all enjoy the benefits of, but would not want located here: power plants, oil rigs, sewage treatment plants, refineries, chemical plants, shipping terminals, weapons factories--Shall I go on? It's a long list.
5:14:
DeleteHair Club For Men, Young Republican Headquarters, Poodles and Cowboys Bar, Amway Corporate Office, Tobacco Fields, Cottage Cheese Factory, Round-Up Distillery, Du Pont, Monsanto, Halliburton, Shooting Range, Nuclear Silos, Gun Shows at the Library, Medical Crack Dispensary, Slaughter House, Mac Heald Charm School, Arthur Murray's School of Dance, a second Golf Course, Rap Academy and Children's Union. I think that about completes the list.
Accordion factory, mime school, rocket launch pad, any business featured on Dirty Jobs, casino, Ebola clinic, fish cannery. Dolphin hunting cove, and anything from Branson, MO.
DeleteAw, aren't you cute, 1:52 - "pot shop prop." How long did it take you to think that one up?
Delete8:22 At least they had something to say and it drew your attention. Your comment added ZIP.
DeleteLOL, 10:35. :P
Delete7:35, LOL. Where I come from, there a popular business that takes a sick old dog and puts its soul into a new puppy. It's so wrong.
DeleteNow in the mail from gaspar, a flier indicating she "opposed" a high-density housing plan for Encinitas. Erm, what "plan" might that be? She fought Prop A tooth and nail, so what the hell's she talking about?
ReplyDeleteAnd after last night's cat-out-of-the-bag news that she's helping folks see the wisdom in upzoning, how does she expect to get anyone to believe that she's anti high-density housing??
Folks, get the word out on her and expose her for the lying developer shill that she is.
Gaspar is personally responsible for overturning the high density Ugly Baby General Plan Draft that Teresa Barth Chaired and helped design; Gaspar alone stopped Barth from stuffing 96% of future growth into New Encinitas and that is a fact no matter what Pam Slater Price says.
DeleteThat's what the heck she is talking about, Poindexter.
Check September 14th, 2010, Encinitas City Council video.
You're allowed to have your own opinion, you are not allowed your own set of facts.
Tell Pam its time to come 'out' as the wicked political step mother of Encinitas!
"Gaspar is personally responsible for overturning the high density Ugly Baby General Plan Draft that Teresa Barth Chaired and helped design;"
DeleteNOT TRUE. Only Stocks ranted about 'Ugly Baby'.
GPAC was the citizen committee that worked for about two years to come up wit a "draft' plan that could easily have been tweaked. Instead, Stocks and Friends, (gaspar), threw all of that good work, time and money, formed the hand picked with developers ERAC committee, had Andreen bloating lies on his web blog saying they wanted to take people's cars away from them, all
of the density was on ElCamino (not true), and the city scrapped all of the worthwhile knowledge acquired from GPAC and started from the beginning, wasting taxpayers money for the developers gain. Andreen
seems to always be bad news.
It what is stated above, it was gaspar that wasted all the time, money, energy to scrap work that was progressing well and was only a draft and hand picked developers to form ERAC.
Well if it is to vote in Cameron ok but that BULLY Krapnz has got to go. Gaspar is certainly better than him.
DeleteName 5 Things Gaspar has accomplished.
DeleteGA$par has achieved "zero" during her time on council and so far "zero" during her "queenship".
DeleteShe says very little and when she does speak she rearranges sentences that have all been recited by the speakers and council members. She has a small brain and can not comprehend that WE do not want more development in this city. Yet, this so-called representative of the people has turned her back on us to go the way of big money for the developers.
GA$par is NOT a fiscal conservative as she would like you to believe. If one can not see through the fake smile and big teeth, you need your head examined. She is about as fake as they come.
Vote NO for GA$par as mayor. This is not what we need for our city. At this point, Tony is our best choice and has been around longer than Ms. Juvenile (rah, rah, rah,) (take it away) (excellent) (ready, begin) ($tock$ puppet) (developer's lover).
NO WAY TO GA$PAR.
"Bully"?
ReplyDeleteOh you mean when he confronted the guy with the "FUCK AMERICA" sign?
Kranz is nobody's puppet.
If you continue to bash Gaspar she may get her mother and young son to beat all of you up.Be careful out there.
ReplyDelete4:07 We should be so afraid. Hold me back. I would like to stick a sock in her mother's mouth.
Delete3:56, Exactly. The guy was a 14K a-hole. Pictures and videos of his irritating sign were neatly cropped off so no one could read it.
DeleteMore recent bullying. Guy is a headcase. Unfit for council.
Delete2:45 ha is Mikey Andreen still smarting over not getting his take of the last bogus fppc complaint he made...back in yer hole, Mikey. No one cares about your idiotic bleatings.
ReplyDeleteContest Idea! We kinda/sorta/heard Gus Vina, our very own City Manger, has an "Enemies List" of 28 activists.
ReplyDeleteWho do you thing belongs on the Citizen's Enemy List (CEL)?
I can name a few that I am certain of. They include:
ReplyDeleteSheila Cameron
Julie Graboi
Andrew Audet
Jerry Sodomka
CJ Minster
Lorri Greene
Donna Westbrook
Bruce Ehlers
Lynn and Russ Marr
That's all I can think of right now. There are more, but that's a start. I think there is more than 28.
None of the 10 have a full time job. Don't even talk about Julie's one or two classes at Cuyamaca U. Besides, Lisa was a part time Prof, look where that got you?
DeleteSheila, a certificate in Grief Counseling and a former President of the regional Human Resources Club. Alice Cooper Fan Club too? Never worked in 20 years. No job, no kids.
Andrew Audet, no job, no kids? Unemployed. Sadomka? No job, no kids. How did he pay off his $10K fine by the FPPC? C.J.? Ditto. Lorri Greene. Yes, Lorne Greene's daughter, but Pet Psychic? No kids. Donna Westbrook? Sincere, but "Its Pat!" No job, no kids.
Bruce Ehlers? Yeah, kids. Job? Prove it. Hid in the shadows until he conned Susan Turney into signing the paper work for Prop A because he knew his own history of FPPC violations, illegal loans to candidates, lying on his own city council Ballot Statement about Encinitas Country Day School's would hurt his con job on the '5 Story Lie'. Bruce claimed on his Council ballot statement that Encinitas Country Day School was designed to flush raw sewage directly into San Elijo, and with the help of reporter Adam Kaye kept up this con job for a month until the Publisher faced with the truth of Bruce's fib/sworn statement, interceded and that forced the NCT into a front page apology for misreporting Bruce false claims and, after Kaye was found unwanted further by the NCT, reporter, Adam Kaye, who printed the lie about ECDS received a Flack job with... wait for it: PAM SLATER PRICE'S County Support staff. A financial raise of considerable size. We call that a 'soft landing'. Because Bruce Ehler's is nothing but a 'beard' for Pam Slater Price.
2 months ago, Pam was backing Catherine and Tony for City Council: when they both showed autonomy and backbone, she fired them both: ask'em. "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!"
Then PAM replaced them with Sheila and Julie.
Reporters: ask Tony and the entire council to share the e-mail from Pam Slater/Hershell at the Council break the evening the week before the council voted to consciously violate state law over Density Bonus. Tony thought they shouldn't be hasty and asked for the subject to go back to the Planning Commission. Minutes later, the brash former Supervisor/Hubby sent a flaming e-mail to Tony and the council telling him and them that she/he were "through' with Tony.
Desperate to find another proxy, they reached out to Sheila.
And here we all are, dancing to a tune played by a 'retired' politician bent on controlling politics in Encinitas even though she lives in Del Mar.
Check it out Reporters: believe it, none of the city council members deleted that e-mail. It was too much hubris and very sloppy.
So, there might be 27 'enemies', but No. 1 is Pam Slater Price.
Ask her and Hershell Tuesday night at Ada Harris. PAM SLATER PRICE; NO KIDS, NO JOB. So, if you add them to the 10, then 2 out of 10 have full time jobs. See a pattern?
What about the chamber of commerce bookkeeping questions when Andreen was there?
DeleteJesus… that post was so long I fell asleep twice. Please keep it interesting- Prick!
DeleteBetter no kids than two dead beat daughters, like someone I know.
DeleteDr. Lorri is Lorne Greene's daughter. I didn't know that. I loved Bonanza.
DeleteR U Kidding me 11:15?
Delete6:19 your full of crap- or Kranz- same thing
DeleteI as at the meeting Tony asked for to try and get the support of Hershell- they kicked him to the curb along with the people were thre- Kranz had no plan for the future and a past that screwed the residents-
Now let's talk about those little meet and greets Bad News Barth held to try and get support- she got support from high density lawyes Marco, Peck and Livia with the Upzone the Coast Law Group aka- The Coast Lose Group-
But the other residents kicked Barth's ass to the curb, it was clear she would get crushed in an election and she couldn't deal with- so she got Blakespear to run
Andreen actually turned the city council and the chamber in for cooking the books: the grand jury exonerated Andreen and fined the City $90,000 for giving money to business groups without their being responsible to account for how it was spent.
DeleteAndreen loves it when low lifes ask that question. How about the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent by Pam Slater Price used to finance little groups of idolators: taxpayer money from the unincorporated areas of the county.
Better yet, ask Bruce how he lost his positions: both private and public. Foisting Sheila back on the city is without question the height of venality.
2:39 PM
DeleteHa. The grand jury exonerated Andreen? Where is that report?
Where is the link?
2:39 PM
DeleteFrom the NCT regarding the bookkeeping of the Chamber -
That financial assessment, which was released publicly in September, reviewed records from July 2005 to June 2009. It declared that there were "many irregularities" in the chamber's finances, and mentioned Andreen and Tucker by name. Tucker was the chamber's CEO during part of the review period, while Andreen was a chamber board member who did contract work for the organization the NCT -
Is that what was investigated? Where is the grand jury report?
11:15AM I am hoping you misunderstood my post! I meant was: whom is an enemy to the CITIZENS not whom is an enemy to the CITY.
ReplyDeleteMy list:
The City Manager and his assistant
The City Attorney
The Planning Dep't
The Public Works Dep't
12:16- Yes I misunderstood your post. Should have read it more carefully. I agree with who you are saying are enemies against the citizens. I would also add, Parks and Rec. Director, Lisa Rudloff, Marlena Medford (communications person, who doesn't seem to be communicating much), and Kranz, who was one of the originators of Prop. A and has now completely abandoned it.
ReplyDeleteNot true
DeleteKranz not and never was anything close to originator of A.
At least partly true. The organizational meeting to undertake some initiatives was at Kranz's house. Three were discussed. Prop.A was the only one to move forward. Kranz rode the momentum of Prop.A to get elected to council.
DeleteKranz pretended to Prop A proponents he was with them until near the very end, when he started whining about how it "wasn't fair" to developers who wanted to build up under the specific plans. Trust me, those developers were not the ones who elected him.
DeleteShaffer got Kranz elected. He will get so few mayor votes. Cameron will get more votes than Kranz, wait and see.
DeleteAgree, 5:50. Kranz is in for a big reality check.
DeleteI would add all five members of the current council, especially GA$par and Muir - developer's friend and pension hog.
ReplyDeleteShaffer has 4 government pension - add her to the pension hog list.
Delete7:36 I included Shaffer in the five members of the current council. Please see my post at 2:27.
DeleteProp A won by less the one percent.What momentum do you speak of?
ReplyDelete4:46- Even if Prop A won by less than 1%, in a democracy, that's all that is needed. If you were against Prop.A then I guess you should have gotten more people involved in voting NO. If you don't like the democratic process, perhaps you would be better off living in North Korea.
ReplyDelete4:46 - not that tired propaganda again. Prop A would have won by tens of points more had you not had folks confused by Ga$par's claims to the very end that you couldn't remodel your kitchen or put in a patio without a citywide vote and Andreen's desperate attempts to tell everyone who crossed his path that a "No" vote meant "no to developers." Add the council being against it and willing to lie to "kill this thing," as Kranz put it, and you have a very tentative voting populace. The fact that it won against big money, lies by opponents, and lies by our government was amazing no matter how thin the margin.
ReplyDeleteScads of voters were horrified days after the election to find they'd meant to vote "yes," but got confused....
But you knew that.
5:21, Who was it again who said: "McDonalds won't be able to be rebuilt without a public vote if Prop A passes!"
DeleteThat would be our favorite out of town liar-for-hire, Mikey Andreen.
DeleteI think that Buddy Boher mentioned said this. I think that he and his family own the franchise, and when he said it, the plans for the current store had already been approved by the Planning Commission. After that, I think that the story grew legs.
DeleteYou're right: it was Buddy. Andreen gleefully repeated the lie all over town, but it was Buddy B. who told it first. The same Buddy Bohrer who calls himself a "low-income advocate." Hilarious...guess he's referring to himself.
DeleteHey 4:46, where do your numbers come from? Your behind? Actual may be found here, at 3.7 ppts:http://www.encinitasca.gov/index.aspx?page=30&recordid=505
ReplyDeleteJerome will be so pleased that we have cycled through the whole phone book, and we're back at Cameron. That means it'll be his turn again soon.
ReplyDeleteMikey, mikey mikey, your O'side interference in Encinitas issues is as appreciated as it was when you lived here. We can always count on you to go for the lowest common denominator and in that you are consistent.
ReplyDeletePam and Herschell are forever respected here and that must drive you and his lowness crazier than you already are. Any candidate that hitches their wagon to you in any way will pay a dear price come election time.
For that we thank you.
Keep up your usual banter and we may get some real candidates that represent this community instead of the developer seat fillers we have had for far too long.
Way to go mikey, keep up the work for us with your endorsements. With your recommendations we all know who not to vote for.
NO TO GA$PAR who is a puppet of $tock$ and a dear friend of Mike Andreen. He is a big NO, NO in this city.
DeleteNO TO OUT OF TOWN MONEY WINNING A SEAT FOR GA$PAR.
NO TO GA$PAR'S DEVELOPER FRIENDS WHO HAVE THEIR PLANS READY TO BUILD IN OUR CITY.
VOTE NO ON THE DRAMA QUEEN GA$PAR..
Ga$par sends out mail flyer with wrong address information. Well, that just about says it all.
DeleteCompetent ---- NOT. Too many irons in the fire for this girl to handle. Maybe she is working up to a breakdown.
The flyer has a picture with her and her family on the steps of the Olivenhain Meeting Hall. Why? Gaspar doesn't live in Olivenhain. Does she want everyone to think she does?
DeleteShe lives west of El Camino Real.
Julie Graboi lives in Olivenhain.
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ReplyDeleteHave another.
DeleteBetter looking but no brains or common sense. That's what Encinitas will get for another 2 years.
DeleteSorry, I am voting for someone other than the developer's friend. Gaspar only looks good from far, far away.
Debacle spell check, charley boy. That addled brain must be showing its age. Thanks for all your valuable contributions here.
ReplyDeleteProp A won. Who cares by how much. I don't.
ReplyDeleteThe citizens rule.
This brings back memories of junior high but not as intellectual. Just who are the cool kids?
ReplyDelete5:14, Charley boy did well in 4th grade and wouldn't make the grammatical errors 11:47 did. What a charade from another Jr. High bully. Grow up and make something of yourself, poser.
ReplyDeleteProp A: 51.85% of those who voted voted for it. My mom told me before I went to kindergarten that 1.85 > 1. She was right.
ReplyDeleteOpponents spent $100K on a misinformation campaign. Vina wasted $50K of taxpayer money paid to Rutan & Tucker for a kill Prop A report. The City Council members came out against it. The Main Street association violated its charter, came out against Prop A and paid for misleading ads to oppose Prop A.
Yet, it passed! If those circumstances don't tell you which side of the issue the great majority of Encinitans are on, you're delusional.
3:12
DeleteYour facts are incorrect.
8:46, in what way are 3:12's facts incorrect? Your lack of specifics show you have none. 8:46 did neglect to include Vina's presence as goon in the back of the room when the L101 discussed whether to take a position. Of course, the No on A crew took their position for them when they posted the L101 seal on their website and printed material without the L101's permission...same for the other 101s except DEMA. Dody of course had her own reasons for going hard against A.
DeleteI could go on...with more correct facts, but you get the picture. And you know I'm right.
"The Main Street association violated its charter, came out against Prop A and paid for misleading ads to oppose Prop A."
DeleteNot true
Any you Vina thing is not true, either.
Actually, they are a 501 C6: they are allowed. Would Kathleen and C.J. stop posting, please. So deluded about Sheila Cameron.
Delete10:00: "any you Vina thing???" What the hell is that? Ask the L101 board members, they'll tell you all about the Vina goon patrol, if that's what you're debating.
DeleteLast I checked L101MA was listed, with the IRS, as a 501(c)(3). I believe DEMA, now E101MA has been listed as a 501 (c)(6).
DeleteSince all of the 101 Mainstreet Associations are heavily subsidized by the City, none of them should be lobbying for initiatives; their doing so has the appearance of a conflict of interests, whether their campaigning and lobbying is legal, or not.
Gaspar will win because she is the best candidate for the job and people can relate to her.
ReplyDeleteI can't relate to someone who doesn't have a clue about politics. She is not for us. She is for the developer. Are you her mommy by any chance?
DeleteGullible, ignorant types go for same.
DeleteMaybe on a Bizarro world!
DeleteSeptember 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM
ReplyDeleteFrom the NCT regarding the bookkeeping of the Chamber -
That financial assessment, which was released publicly in September, reviewed records from July 2005 to June 2009. It declared that there were "many irregularities" in the chamber's finances, and mentioned Andreen and Tucker by name. Tucker was the chamber's CEO during part of the review period, while Andreen was a chamber board member who did contract work for the organization the NCT -
Is that what was investigated? Where is the grand jury report?
Where is the grand jury report? It's not shown on the County website.
2:39 PM - show the grand jury report otherwise it's another lie from Andreen.
Scoreboard: Andreen brought the charges against the Chamber and the City: result, Andreen got what he wanted, exonerated in the public (Tucker too) and the city got fined nearly $100K.
ReplyDeleteYou might want to ask Pam Slater Price, Sheila and Julie before you continue down this road: all the evidence of wrong doing is still close at hand.
And Sheila and Houlihan's fingerprints are confirmed as being all over this case.
So, have at it, but unless you are trying to bring Sheila down, you might want to direct your self-hate elsewhere.
10:05 AM
ReplyDeleteThere is no grand jury report brought by Andreen. Where is the grand jury report?
Where is Andreen's grand jury report?
ReplyDeleteAnd the fingerprints? Whatever....
ReplyDeleteThe General Plan Update was proceeding well with a very fair, diversified group with leaders and stakeholders representing the ENTIRE community, good facilitator and city staff support.
ReplyDeleteAfter two years, a draft was presented. A DRAFT.
For reasons that were not clear, Stocks&Gaspar&Friends labeled "the draft", "an ugly baby", disbanded GPAC, formed their own hand picked group, ERAC, and trashed all the information, time, energy and thought out the window.
NEVER was El Camino Real slated to have all the zoning potential changes.
NEVER was there a UPZONING PLAN FOR EL CAMINO REAL, as Garpar claims. Never was there a plan to take away personal ownership of cars and other BS Andreen claims.
This planned hijack of the General Plan was planned and calculated to benefit Stock&Friends and not the general public.
A vote for Gaspar is a vote for Stocks&Friends, Andreen, Meyers and developers. Your choice.