Here is that letter.
Fortunately, and only after displays of public outrage and threats of lawsuits, our city council finally did the right thing and reversed their ridiculous density bonus interpretations.
Side note: do we even know the half of Wright's crimes? How the heck do you afford a Maserati and a Jaguar on a legislator's salary? Why did a former legislator suddenly decide to get involved in a local development issue far from his district?
Playing the game for the right people pays off...
ReplyDeleteAsk Gaspar - she'll hold a tea party for the elite developers. Pays good!
ReplyDeleteand invite a known "controversial" terrorist of women politicians
ReplyDeleteWhen Julie and Sheila are up there this kind of subterfuge would never stand a chance. The decades of insider manipulation have been an open door for this type of influence peddling.
ReplyDeleteWe have a chance to clean this up now. What other candidates running represent true change? Name even one, if you can, besides these two brave and courageous women who have stepped up.
Sorry to say, the rest are indebted to their handlers and monied interests.
If you are happy with the current state of affairs, then vote for the rest, as is your right and we will get what we deserve and what we have had for far too long.
We have a chance to make a real statement that this community cares enough to put a mayor and a council member in that will not turn their backs on us and live up to their campaign promises.
The days of developer and real estate manipulation came come to an end if we have the right people on the dais.
It wil be a start and will show the remaining three that they have two years to join us or be shown the door and I sincerely hope they will join this revolution.
Except neither of them will probably be up there, Sheila definitely won't, and Julie has less than two months to overcome the lead that Blakespeare has....
DeleteSo if Julie and Sheila don't win, the people have also spoken or does it not work that way in your world?
ReplyDeleteWhen Murphy whipped that letter out and waved it in the air the first time the density bonus items were discussed, he was almost giddy.,,thought he was playing his trump card. Odd he hadn't shown it prior to residents who'd been challenging him for over six months. He was saving it for his grand finale in front of Council, I suppose.
ReplyDeleteHe tries too hard. Something is definitely off about the dude.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8
DeleteWasn't this passed by a majority of politicians in Sacramento? I don't think were repealing all of Nixon's legislative post watergate, are we?
ReplyDeleteMajority of politicians voted fr the law as written, not as Rod Wright and Patrick Murphy want it interpreted.
DeleteDon't know about your majority of politicians, but do know other cities and counties do the opposite of Wright, so...doesn't sound like his opinion counts for much in this state.
ReplyDeleteA little history: it was our own darlin' David Meyer who procured the letter and gifted it to the Planning Dept for a rainy day...or two.
One of the conditions of Wright's conviction is that he is banned from ever running for public office again. Amen.
ReplyDeleteDalager says that's ok in his book!
DeleteLolollll , Sheila was hoping the CCC would shit can the freeway expansion .....lololll well they just gave the green light to the expansion through encinitas. Don't like walls Sheila ?? CalTrans is going to walk off your city and there's not a damn thing you can do about it!!! Lololll. And you want to be the mayor... Oh shit that's good for a laugh. Lolllll
ReplyDelete9:25 - you sound like a pack n stack ideologue
Deletetake a drive up the coast to orange county and LA- see it, Cal Trans walls with graffitti sourrounded by high density concrete bunkers of boxes and asphalt
that is the Barth Shaffer vision of Encinitas serving single people who can't afford to buy homes because the government hoodwinked them with easy credit into taking out college loans they can't pay back- shylock's
Sheila and Julie are the only one with balls to stand up to vina and represent residents- Barth and Shaffer are sell outs
I, too, am not voting for Barth, cause she is not running. Would have, though.
DeleteI will vote for Catherine. She is smart, cares passionately about community character, is reasonable and appears that she would work to attempt to work with all sides, to the benefit of all.
Balls are not as important to me as strength of character.
I do not understand all the baseless attacks on Vina. You all make him sound like he is Darth Vader..
How is talking about the freeway equate to being a stack and pack idealogue? What is a stack and pack idealogue? 9:25 is right, Sheila is none too happy about the freeway widening or the sound walls. Not sure why. The Freeway widening is coming, no matter who is in office.
DeleteFYI, the freeway walls in OC don't have graffiitti, but if you live near the freeway in San Clemente, I bet your quality of life has improved and the decibels have gone down since they've gone in.
The density is a separate issue. Sheila isn't going to win guys, it's Tony or Kristin, figure it out now or figure it out when Kristin is the mayor....
9:27 AM
DeleteDarth Vader was a sweetheart compared to Vina.
Vina is completely for Vina, no one else. Hey guess what? Cameron is catching momentum and it's her or Gaspar, Tony is in the same vein as Barth now, basically history.
Delete9:47 how is Blakespear different than Barth-
DeleteBarth lied on A- would you take an endoresment from a liar
Barth increased debt by $40 M in two years- is that wise
Barth voted to bury the nichols roads report- is that transparent
VIna- last week he tried to sneak a new plan thru, check out the March council meeting when a presentation was made showing Vian withheld financial information from the council and public
9:47 Vina moonlighting
DeleteElection of Nov. 2000, Any questions?
ReplyDeleteJames Bond .......... 9,946 votes 15.90%
Maggie Houlihan .......... 9,414 votes 15.05%
Jerome Stocks .......... 8,881 votes 14.20%
Heidi Prola .......... 7,235 votes 11.57%
Robert T. Nanninga .......... 6,976 votes 11.15%
Sheila Cameron .......... 6,741 votes 10.78%
Lou Aspell .......... 5,519 votes 8.83%
Donn K. Harms .......... 2,817 votes 4.50%
Cris Hicks .......... 2,173 votes 3.47%
Frank M. "Rusty" Wells .......... 1,483 votes 2.37%
Sally Corral Cowen .......... 1,353 votes 2.16%
Lolollll Bob garbed more votes than Sheila ??? Lololll. Bob was a loon.... Lolollll
DeleteHeidi Prola and Bob Nanninga split the anti Stocks vote, so Sheila couldn't displace him. The numbers were close.
DeleteStocks was elected by a low plurality, nowhere near a majority of votes cast.
Correct, Bob always split votes, but the point is if Sheila can't win in 2000 while she was on the council, what chance does she have now? Answer, none...
DeleteI can hear in your voice that you desperately WISH it's going to be Tony or Kristin. Between Kranz' Leichtag Gate and Gaspar's Andreen Gate, voters may rightfully become very uneasy about those two.
ReplyDeleteAnd as far as Blakespear's "strength of character" goes, apparently she didn't have enough to read all five pages of Prop A for herself and decide on the thing for herself. Whether you were for or against Prop A, a lawyer who doesn't read a simple document and form an opinion does not have strength of anything. She claimed she "got confused," and decided to "go with the Council."
I can see Blakespear now, doing her perfected deer-in-the-headlight impression, nodding and saying "I'll have what they're having. Let's make it unanimous." We don't need to swap out one Stooge for another.
Nope, that's just the reality. See the results from 2000 above.
DeleteIt's funny you said that about Blakespear and Prop A. She just told a small group of us that she "DID NOT SUPPORT PROP A" because it was bad for Encinitas.
ReplyDeleteNow we know why people are referring to her as FAKEspear. She is off to a fake start with fake lies.
DeleteNot the kind of person I want representing me.
NO TO FAKEspear.
She was right. Thanks, Pam.
DeleteBad for her personal interests maybe.
DeleteHi-larious. She started her campaign by telling folks any one of the following: "I got confused, I figured the Council knew best, I went into the polling booth, but never voted, I never read the initiative language."
ReplyDeleteSo now she's figured out that those are bad answers for her campaign and has refined her response. Did she happen to tell you why "it was bad for Encinitas?"
Here is what some people are hoping for. Tony will become Mayor. Then there will be a seat on the Council that will need to be filled. The Council gets to fill it (think Muir). Guess who they will fill it with? Teresa would be my guess. Then there would be your 4/5 majority.
ReplyDelete1:16 Teresa is not running now or in the future.
DeleteMuir needs to get the boot when it's his time. He is one clueless person. I thought he had more smarts than what I have seen. He does love his pension though.
Dump then all. In 20 years things will be so much worse you'll call these the good ol days. Save this city... Drive then all out!! All of them.
DeleteAt a previous Council Meeting, "all things election," the plan was to fill a possible vacant council seat by appointing the person with the next highest number of votes. In that case, both Graboi and Blakespear could be new Council Members.
DeleteSome had suggested it would be better to require that Encinitas council members must serve the full four years for which we elected them. In other words, they should remain in office unless they resign. They shouldn't be encouraged to throw everything off by running from a safe seat.
I don't think Tony Kranz will be elected, as mayor, so that won't be an issue. But if it did happen, Council should stick to its word. In fact, there should be a resolution putting that "consensus" from a past meeting into writing.
Ah, but let's say Tony wins the Mayorship and Catherine wins the Council seat. Teresa was just appointed on 2 subcommittees that will spill over long after Jan. 1, so why was she appointed and why did she accept ? Sure looks like she still wants to be a player and didn't think she could win. But, if appointed, I can hear her now How could I say no?" Something to think about.
DeleteI have said all along-
DeleteThe social engineers are hoping Kranz and Blakespear win, they will then appoint Barth, and Barth will say she was "called to serve" and accept"
They will then rezone the city for stack and pack and bike racks
wait for it-
Barth knows she would get her ass kicked in an election - this plan they hatched is her only chace to stay in power
Give up on the conspiracy theories, Teresa will be gone when her term ends, then you'll have to come up with some new nonsense.
DeleteA few are wondering why there was no open thread here for comments about last Wednesday's Council Meeting?
ReplyDeleteIt seems strange that Tony is always the one to suggest subcommittees, and then to nominate those who are to be Council co-chairs. It was inappropriate for lame duck Council Member Teresa Barth to be on the Pacific View activation plan subcommittee. At least both Lisa Shaffer and Kristin Gaspar were asking some hard questions.
What Jay Lembach said didn't jive with what the public was told all along, that there would be a lease revenue stream, therefore the City could float lease revenue bonds, instead of having the public vote on a GOB (General Obligation Bond).
What keeps happening is that last minute, there is some change, staff and legal counsel are unprepared to answer questions, which should have been addressed from the beginning. So there is added deadline pressure, and a consultant, in this case "special bond counsel" another expensive attorney, must be hired to produce more reports.
If the percentages are known re what can be considered private, to qualify for tax exempt bonds, then that percentage applies to the public/semi-public zoning. If only 10% private is allowed, then non profits that are not tax exempt, or private organizations/entities, could only provide lease revenue at that percentage rate.
EPA is tax exempt. Leucadia Mainstreet Association is not. So organizations such as 101 Mainstreet, or private entities, for-profit, could only provide 10 to 20% of the revenue stream. Think about this difference: doctors and dentists offices can be situated in public/semi-public zoning, correct? So could a retirement home. We were told re Pacific View, before, through Superintendent DeVore, that the property would be developed for medical offices, so the zoning wouldn't have to change, and the school district could trade for a commercial property with a ongoing revenue stream.
But only a few public offices would have to be on site to qualify for public/semi-public. For tax exempt bonds, the use must be 80/20 or 90/10 public/semi-public.
Jay Lembach is dead wrong when he says that no lease revenue can be allowed. If Finance Director Tim Nash and City Attorney Glenn Sabine couldn't give an opinion, neither should Lembach. Bond counsel should have provided part of the staff report, or, at a minimum, should have been on hand to address Council's numerous questions.
There was no open thread because I have better things to do than watch 5 idiots preen and showcase for nothing. Maybe I'll return in the future but for now it's too much work for no pay.
DeleteEU So there will be no more posts on this blog for upcoming council meetings?
DeleteThe subcommittee, if a consensus of council insists on another one, should have been Kranz and Shaffer. 2:17 is right.
ReplyDeleteBarth is a lame duck. Her appointment is political electioneering, and more bad judgment by Kranz and Shaffer. Wish those two were up for election so we could vote them out as we did Dalager and Stocks.
Time will tell.
Or, as another poster said, Teresa couldn't win, so Kranz becomes Mayor, leaving a spot open for the Council to fill. Oh my, says Teresa, I can't leave you all in a lurch, so sure I'll stay on for 2 more years. This is the only scenario that makes sense, given the subcommittees she is on. Of course, if Kranz loses, then Blakespar can be on the Barth Committee's. Not many people expect Graboi or Cameron to win. So, meet the new bosses, same as the old ones. Actually, I think they are worse. The old bosses were never shy about their positions, even if many of us didn't like their positions. The new bosses are sneaky and abandon their base the first time they get a chance. Teresa said she would fire Sabine-didn't happen. Tony was for Prop A, big time. Then he abandoned it. And Shaffer, well let's just say I doubt if Maggie would approve of who she supported after all that Shaffer has done, or not done.
DeleteAn interesting thing happened on the way to Pacific View:
ReplyDeleteWell, the election is over, and Prop. F passed. The city used taxable bonds for the purchase of Pacific View. Pacific View is zoned for medical use.
A few monied people decide a better use for PV. A cannabis dispensary! After all, we all know that artists like to get stoned, and it is legal if one has a card, which I am sure some physicians would not mind getting a few bucks out of giving them away.
So, a perfect win-win for the City. Medical Marijuana is big business, therefore the City would get a cut (of course that would be part of the deal). Artists could get high and then do their art elsewhere, doctors and dispensary owners would make a good amount of money and all because the 3 people and some citizens wanted this particular "Legacy Property) at any price. It will be interesting to see what the legacy becomes.
Bob Marley Arts Center
DeleteKranz spotted drinking downtown with a real estate guy - at least it's not a developer this time.
ReplyDeleteNothing new there. Kranz is always drinking. I wonder how much of Norby's wine he received. And, I thought I heard Leichtag was getting into the wine business. Now, that may explain why Kranz went to Israel. He wanted to learn to make wine, and after all it was legal, even if it borders on unethical and surely a conflict of interest with regard to Leichtag. The tangled webs people weave.
DeleteNo "borders" on unethical here. Next time a Leichtag deal comes up, residents have to be there to yell for his recusal; he certainly won't do it unforced.
DeleteWould be awesome too to hear him explain himself at the upcoming Mayor's forum...someone should ask.
The current Mayor was also asked to go and she said NO!
DeleteWow, low blow on Tony. This blog is sinking again.
Delete4:59- Interesting. And to spice it up, lets say Prop F fails. Another way the city could make money, as it is zoned medical, is to rent space to different healthcare providers, or perhaps even a rehab center. It could also be a "total wellness center", including physicians, "shrinks" of all kinds, chiropractors, homeopaths, acupuncturists, etc. The docs could still write the prescriptions for medical marijuana and the patients could go up to Oceanside or to OB to get the MM. Of course, the City would get their rent, and then some. All because the idiots at City Hall didn't do their homework and once again got bamboozled by Staff.
ReplyDeleteDouble tracking coming to encinitas. What is the city doing to handle 110 trains per day?? Sitting on their hands. Way to go council and staff.. When we need you we can count on you to do....NOTHING.
ReplyDeleteTony Kranz is our train guy representative - you need to ask him!
ReplyDeleteQuestions for council and or Andreen: When,where and why was there a secret meeting to determine up-zoning specific areas? Why was Andreen (and who he represents,I suspect his initials are David Meyer)) privy to this information? Why was the mayor(Gaspar) present at at least one private workshop to discuss how homeowners could profit from said up-zoning? Does the council plan to ignore prop A? Andreen-gate 2 electric boogaloo!
ReplyDeleteCabezon
Cabezon, how many times did you tell me you could quit drinking and smoking anytime you wanted? And yet, you haven't been sober one day in ten years, much less sober 2 days in a row! Cabron-zon! What's in your basement, Cabezon? That's the real question, isn't it? Arigato...
DeleteNo, the real question, Mr. Arigato, is why don't you give a rat's ass about the Gaspar/Andreen collaboration? Why don't you wonder why the city is laying plans in secret yet again? You a Mr. City worker, or just someone waiting for Gaspar to throw you a bone?
DeleteYou worrying about cabezon's habits mean nothing to anyone, but you do reveal yourself to be a developer or developer'a tool.
Amen to that. If you vote Gaspar, you might as well be voting for Jerome...
DeletegASpar needs to be shown the door permanently.
DeleteShe was unethical in this latest meeting with Andreen discussing the housing element or up-zoning or whatever you want to call it. She had NO business whatsoever representing the city or any of the other council members when it was not even presented to council until after the Andreen meeting.
Shame on you you shameless mayor. You are truly a sneaky little Biotch. Off with your head and out with your body.
The council plans to railroad upwards of 95 upzones with YOUR vote "yes" on the housing element update. Between now and the vote, they will scare you into thinking the only way to vote is "yes."
ReplyDeleteAndreen-gate is simultaneously the city's problem AND Gaspar's, as she helped him explain why upzoning is goooooood for a handful of landowners back in April. Do we believe the rest of the council when they claim ignorance of these 6-month-old meetings? Gaspar has to cop to the secretive contact; she was there.
4:51PM I don't get it
ReplyDeleteThat's because there's nothing to get. 4:51 somehow thinks what the cabezon does and his/her attacks on the cabezon matter more than the clandestine planning on the part of the city against residents.
DeleteRather sad and childlike attempt to say "hey, look over there!" and try to get us all to look away from the city working once again against residents.
What's in your closet is more like it, isn't it, 4:51PM
ReplyDeleteCabezon - if you have something step up and report it (so far, I've seen nothing but lies and mis-representation from you). Your credibility is zero - it may be time for you to change your name.
ReplyDelete8:26 He just asked some reasonable questions.
DeleteNervous? Looks like and you should be.
ReplyDeleteGaspar will win hands down. Only too bad the new elected mayor will only be one vote.
ReplyDeleteYeah, then you'd get your five stories on the 101, your hotel built, eh?
DeleteVote for Tony, nobody's perfect, and neither is he, but the alternative is Jerome in high heels.
DeleteI can not think of ONE thing Ms. High Heels (GASpar) has accomplished during her time on council. She honestly believes she is in some kind of beauty contest. Come to earth wonder woman, this is politics not a beauty contest. When will you begin to represent your citizens who put you in your seat rather than cater to your developer friends, your master puppet puller $tock$ and your good friend Andreen? Both you and Muir are a waste of our money.
DeleteSo between Kranz and Gaspar, name one thing either has done for the people?? Their votes have been to feather the nests of developers. At least Gaspar, who would never get my vote, has always been proud of her ownership by developers.
DeleteAnd PV? Tony was crowing front and center and now that's blowing up in his face. Guess agreeing to buying something and then leaving your wallet at home doesn't work out any better for him than it does the rest of us, after all...so that still leaves him a big zero, this time without benefit of Shaffer's coattails and the Prop A base.
1:47 There are others who are running for mayor. Your choice.
DeleteGaspar illegally represented the council at a private meeting run by best buddy Mike Andreen. Why isn't the rest of the council censuring her for misrepresentation?
ReplyDelete10:29 Gaspar had no authority and should have her hands slapped big time.
ReplyDeleteApparently Kranz, Shaffer, Muir and Barth don't agree with you!
DeleteHow did Gaspar illegally represent council at that meeting? Council members can meet privately, as long as no quorum is present.
Delete11:45 PM
ReplyDeleteApparently Kranz, Shaffer, Muir and Barth don't agree to censure Gaspar because of their complicity?
You're probably right, 11:49. As with Prop A, anytime one of them did some dirty work, the other four sat silent, looked on, and claimed it was a personal matter. That's what Shaffer did last week when she excused Kristin from any wrongdoing: it's a personal matter.
DeleteThis underground behavior should be enough to knock Gaspar out of the running. This indicates the kind of judgement and extreme bias she exercises. If it's all good, why didn't Gaspar look the speakers in the eye as each brought up this subject?
Kranz promised to send a postcard from Israel.
DeleteKranz went to Israel on a Leichtag-related dime and all we got was a crummy t-shirt. That, and his "yes" vote to Leichtag rezoning without a vote of the people.
DeleteThe General Plan Update was proceeding well with a very fair, diversified group with leaders and stakeholders representing the ENTIRE community, good facilitator and city staff support.
ReplyDeleteAfter two years, a draft was presented. A DRAFT.
For reasons that were not clear, Stocks&Gaspar&Friends labeled "the draft", "an ugly baby", disbanded GPAC, formed their own hand picked group, ERAC, and trashed all the information, time, energy and thought out the window.
NEVER was El Camino Real slated to have all the zoning potential changes.
NEVER was there a UPZONING PLAN FOR EL CAMINO REAL, as Garpar claims. Never was there a plan to take away personal ownership of cars and other BS Andreen claims.
This planned hijack of the General Plan was planned and calculated to benefit Stock&Friends and not the general public.
A vote for Gaspar is a vote for Stocks&Friends, Andreen, Meyers and developers. Your choice.
There was no red line version so that citizens could make a comparison. It was impossible to provide one since they started with projects that MIG and other consultants had done before for cities like Arcadia and for which they had already been paid as consultants. Teresa Barth said that they were starting with a "template," to "save money." They spent more than $1.3 million dollars on a worthless piece of garbage since the starting point was not the ENCINITAS General Plan, but General Plans of other cities. The starting point should have been our own General Plan, but the city has hidden it online so as to make citizens believe that they have no rights.
DeleteAh yes, $30,000 for The New Encinitas Network..so close, yet so far away...
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the grand jury report on the Encinitas chamber of commerce with Andreen and Tucker's involvement with it?
ReplyDeleteAndreen tried to stop the Leucadia Streetscape with bull shit, too.
ReplyDeleteDon't be involved w those who hitch their wagon to his bad news bear.
Dump Gaspar and you dump Andreen, at least until the next election. This is our chance. Then dump Muir and move on from there.
ReplyDeleteThe Walrus is 100lbs overweight. He might solve our problem for us by having a heart attack or worse. ( not that I'm wishing this on anyone.)
Delete2:59 If he isn't concerned about his health, why should we care. He just may save us all on his big pension if he doesn't get his health in order.
DeleteHis wife gets the pension if he expires.
DeleteForklift Muir out.....
DeleteWell, well Catherine Blakespear has not been truthful about her knowledge
ReplyDeleteof her family's subdivision development of Rossini creek. Seem Catherine was right along side her family in 1994 at a planning commission meeting trying to push through the family's housing development.
2:06
DeleteNot true of fair.
If you and your family owned land, would you have the right to do what you wished to with the land, under the law?
Of course you would.
Why would you look at their rights any differently?
Because the look to bend the law, and that is true.
Delete8:53
DeleteWhat are you talking about? What is 'true'?
Is seems as if this blog is against each council member and all challengers! What are you looking for?
ReplyDeleteHonesty. And not against all challengers...Sheila and Julie tell the truth, unless one counts Mike Andreen and Jerome Stocks' opinions, which one doesn't.
Delete3:12 Honesty, Integrity, Loyalty, and not one who will only say what they think people want to hear to get them in office, but actually do what they say they will do. One who is FOR the people and NOT for the developer.
DeleteThere are two who are left over from the $tock$ reign (Gaspar and Muir) and they need to go. We need to clean house of that rubbage once and for all.
I think 3:12 post is correct, because I think Sheila and Julie are lunatics! Put that one down next to your honesty, integrity blah, blah blah. These people aren't playing with a full deck!
ReplyDeleteLOL, and you are, Jerome??
DeleteHave another.
gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, ahhhhhhhhhh. Kind of sounds like him but without any profanity. Maybe he is increasing his vocabulary enough to choose other terminology. Yea right.
ReplyDeleteVote Sheila and Julie. Result: Gaspar gone, Tony Mark and Lisa form new CC with great new Mayor and acC member. City rescued from Vina Murphy and Sabine! And NO Teresa!!
ReplyDeleteNew beginning!
Delete100!!!
ReplyDeleteSo agree.
ReplyDeleteWorth a try
ReplyDelete