Congratulations, 7:20. You missed the last Kook pic though. The night started off on a sour note for me. The League of Woman Voters lady told the candidates to remain seated when they spoke. Speakers should always stand if they are able to. Untill they're elected anyway and get to peer down upon the peasants.
Blakespear wants residents to let their elected officials represent us. Shades of Shaffer.
She also says "We need to decide where to put over 1,000 affordable units.". Not "question he units and how to meet the number from existing stock," but "Where do we put them?". Good little foot soldier, that one.
Actually, the more I listen to Julie the more I want to vote for her and I will. She is compassionate, caring, and would do her best to represent the citizens of our city.
I am so turned off on Blakespear. She has this "smug" attitude and believes she deserves to be elected because she has lived here a long time.
Lerch flip-flopped on lights at the hall park. He was against them in Cardiff and, I guess figuring he's now in old Encinitas, doesn't have to stay consistent.
9:03 In Cardiff Lerch was his own man, what changed? well, looky here ol boy, Lerch got together with Gaspar Sherry Hodges and Brian Brady, that is what changed
Hey Brady, you never came back and clarified for us what went down with Zigler, an honest man
Not sure what forum you all were attending, but Blakespear was the strongest candidate tonight and it wasn't even close. Graboi couldn't finish her answers because she was bogged down with minutiae, Lerchbacker is clueless. Blakespear clearly and concisely articulated her viewpoints. Tonight was surgical
9:28- I was there. Blakespear is not interested in representing local residents. She is like Shaffer Barth and KRanz, she thinks she knows best what residents need and swe all shut up
her answers for the most part were vague and verbose, except when she talked about letting government decide for us the future of the city
I heard from someone that at tthe Blakespear BBQ party she was talking about feeling like she was finally doing something on her own- I guess my problem with that is I would hope elected eladers would be doing for us- but sadly as we have seen they are in it for themselves- Blakespear seems to be the same
There are several elements to a forum or debate. One is the substance of your answers, the other is how you deliver it. The other might that intagible of force and directness of message.
I could see Blakespeare having a better delivery, but would see Julie with more substance.
Most people here are letting their biases get in the way. Can anyone break down the forum in this manner?
Yeah, you weren't there, because the oft vague and verbose one was Graboi, who also never really articulated how she would get things done. She has a penchant for stating perceived flaws but not providing real fixes.
9:53 yes, CB is rambling, vauge and verbose- hey this is a woman who when representing a client had to repeat over and over I am running for council, I am running for council, I am running for council-
With CB it's all about her (she even sounds like Lisa Liar)
The problem with so many people on this page is that they already have preconceived notions about all the players, so much so they refuse to acknowledge that maybe their horse in the race wasn't on their game. Julie was locked in at Cardiff, mopped the floor with CB. Today was much different. But again, I don't expect to convince people who already have their minds made up otherwise
This seems fair in terms of how it might have gone down. In the end, most of the people at the forum have already made up their minds, because they're involved.
Too bad the people who could use an introduction to the candidates don't show up....
Blakespear is so in the thrall of Barth and Shaffer that I could never vote for her. Even her "fear mongering" comment to Julie's response on Prop A end run by the city was straight out of Shaffer's mouth, verbatim. She has already shown that she will turn her mind over to Shaffer and Barth for her opinions. Do we really need a third mini me?
Yes, Blakespear is unfortunately a Shaffer mini-me. Shaffer the ethcis teacher who writes editorials about being honest as a city leader and then who lies on prop A ballot statemetns and in her Newsletter's-
8:24, Not everyone who voted No on A is a liar. A LOT of people were sincerely misled by all the foundationless claims "experts" made against it. Perhaps even council members.
".you're". Let's lay off Sheila. I have probably been the one on here the most advocating against voting for her, but I'm trying to keep it above board.
It's this kind of abuse that I don't think Sheila is going to be able to absorb. Last time was enough. She has done great things for our city in the past, and will continue to in the future, but I hope it's from outside city hall.
Thanks for your "reasonable" tone, but your message is the same. "This kind of abuse" sounds like it would escalate off this board into the Mike Andreen/David Meyer clown stalking of Maggie Houlihan. I don't know many who would or should "absorb" that level of idiocy. Why those two at the very least aren't peeking out from behind bars is beyond me.
Despite your tone, 9:59, I'd be very careful about implied threats and how folks react. It's a thin line to walk there.
Sorry, you're way off base. In 1994 there was no internet like there is today, or selfies, no cell phones. Technology has opened the door to a whole level of verbal abuse that wasn't possible twenty years ago. That was my point. I wat totally against the clown at the time and would be now. How that wasn't harrasment was beyond me, other than that public figures were involved.
There's no way I'm threatening anybody with anything. That was absolutely not what I'm going to. To put it in plain language, there's a lot of haters out there, we see it now. People have to get the same licks in day after day, Tony's temper, Teresa's pension. I mean time after time after time. It's the same crap over and over.
So imagine what that would be like after we saw the abuse laid down on Sheila last time. Magnify that times 20. That was my point. Is she phyically and mentally up to the dirt that would be slung her way this time? I would say no, and that's not a knock, but that's the way it is....
You're barking up the wrong way. I don't endorse the harrasment of people in the public realm. I was opposing it, but I guess that escaped your limited intellect, Dr. Troll.
You mentioned it yourself, the guy's name is Mike Andreen, and it was called "Wirefire".
I don't think she's going to win, so it's not going to matter, but everyone on here and on every other public forum could excercise a lot more restraint in what they say, but that's the freedom of an anononymous forum.
I now return you to the regulary scheduled hatefest...
This blog seems to have the most abusive, intolerant, childish, self-important and selfish electorate voicebox in the city, that just continues to lay the blame on everybody else who doesn't think, agree or vote lock,stock and barrel for them on every issue.
Just a bunch of lemmings running off a cliff for the last 25 years so go ahead and keep electing these (they're one of us this time) chosen few candidates who keep disappointing you over and over and hope for a different result.
1:42 Why bother to come here and read the comments? It's your choice my friend. Just click delete on your computer and "poof" the blog is gone from your viewing.
Just an observation, no point intended but the obvious...
Most here will never be happy with anything that their personally chosen candidate who were elected by many others with different views try to accomplish or change things in this schizophrenic, five communities as one, city.
1:09, why won't you respond to the question on supposedly slung dirt? By innuendo, you have done your work along the lines of "When did you first stop beating your wife?"
You claim Sheila can't take some undefined abuse, then call me a troll when I ask you for specifics. Nice try, but that kind of transparent ploy is much more attractive on a five year old.
To be clear once and for all, it was Mike Andreen of the David Meyer posse that went after Sheila last time, is that clear enough? They did a whole smear job on Sheila so they could remove her as mayor because Bond wanted to be Mayor so he could run for state assembly or senate.
Were you here or do I need to dig up links. I'm telling you what happened while you're on some kind of which hunt. I supported Sheila in both her prior campaigns. I think we're on the same side here. My point is about how nasty it got.....
Someone who knows a thing or two about Mrs. Cameron is former Encinitas City Manager Lauren Wasserman who was on the receiving-end of quite a bit of inappropriate behavior between an at-will employee, Wasserman and a seated Mayor of Encinitas, Mrs. Cameron. Wasserman kept all the phone message recordings from Mayor Mrs. Cameron at the time (Over a dozen) and used them to increase his 'golden' parachute when Christy Guerin became the 'third' vote to remove Wasserman when he tried to intervene in the Mayor's plans to return 'fees' to developers that she had befriended in Olivenhain named Thornburg. In light of not pursuing legal recourse for damages against the City for his treatment by the Mayor Mrs. Cameron, Wasserman agreed to receive a bump in his ultimate retirement that he will receive annually for the rest of his life.
There is a letter written by Wasserman published in today's Coast News. As for Andreen, he feels sorry for Mrs. Cameron and will not say a word against her to the press or publicly. Neither Wasserman, nor Andreen have forgotten any of Mrs. Cameron's actions or words 19 years ago. Nor have Mr. Holz, Mrs. Guerin, Mr. DuVivier or Mr. Bond. Ask them. While they may admire her chutzpa, none of them have spoken up for fear of returning to the chaos that reigned 19 years ago in city hall. Only in America.
Our city manager didn't write a letter to the editor about an election they might not be voting in - WTH Kydd must be losing it to have if that dipstick editor Cagala ran a letter about the Encinitas election from a Carlsbad resident-
Out-of-town people are always sticking their noses into Encinitas politics. Just ask Gaspar. Her friend Mr. Brady doesn't live here and he has his big nose in our city, as well as Gaspar's developer friends and the money they gave to her campaign.
4:29 PM Mr. Wasserman himself wasn't pleasant to deal with on an ongoing basis. He was not to be questioned. Strange that he would come out of the woodwork. Did he think no one would remember him? There was also a question about him, a developer, and a house, but that was when he was with the county.
Andreen and his Wirefire site did a lot of the smearing against Sheila, in addition to the Queen of Mean stuff, all so Bond could be mayor when he later ran for assembly...
All that stuff about Sheila and Wasserman, Andreen and Tucker and the chamber is so old as to not have much relevancy. This time I'm sure Andreen will be hands off, they would love to see Sheila split the vote....
Gaspar's PR machine is now operating - the glossy mailers, extolling vague generalities that no one can deny -"fiscal responsibility", etc. The family photo - where is the picnic basket and cute puppy? Endorsed by cops and firemen - American heroes! It all assumes the majority of the electorate is clueless, which is unfortunately true. Kranz is too busy downing another tequila at the local bar and telling everyone how much of a big shot he is - he is the underdog. Odds are the developers got this one in the bag. Barbie. the developers' shill, is likely the next Mayor.
5:23 for being a lover and not a hater, yea right, it is puzzling you are the only one posting hate references here. You are the only one! It is only you that posts any hate filled comments and almost always accompanies the stupid non existent club that you made up to try to pigeonhole those caring citizens who don't agree with you about roundabouts on OUR 101.
Perhaps if you could expand your addled mind and relegate your obsessive compulsions to trying a new tact you might be better off. We all sure would be.
Come on charley child, you must have it in you, after living so long.
The challenge to you is to come out of your hate club mentality and grow up and be a man while you still have the chance.
No more club references, no more infantile crazy references that only serve to diminish any legitimacy you might have had in the past.
8:10- oh come on.... H101 looks worse than ever and there are 12-15 dead oleander bushes passed off as trees on the 101. I mean really, you have so much to celebrate. PS- keep it crappy.
Look for the last time 101 hater... The eastside of 101 is NCTD's blight and they are the one's that you should be bitching to. Call them and demand they clean it up.
The dead oleanders do need to be removed. They are in the right away. That said 101, looks better than it used to, those new sidewalks are looking good...
11:34- sidewalks looking good?? Where on the north end of 101 do you find sidewalks?? I only see weeds and dirt. Take off your rose coloured glasses hippie, Jerry's dead get a job.
7:43pm Comparing mikey with Pam, really? How uninformed you show yourself to be.
Please do compare them for yourself and what Pams' record of involvement has been over the decades and what mikeys record is around here.
Please do inform yourself about what each has done over the years for our community.
Pam has served and continues to serve honorably. Mikey, well not even in the slightest. His reputation has been well earned and anyone that associates themselves with him should know better.[Kristen what were you thinking if you were thinking at all?]
Pam was elected 8 times by Encinitas residents. Andersen and Brady couldn't get elected once to anything. I think Andreen got in trouble with the Oside PD recently for bad behavior up there! Brady is a right wing shill from SB. This is the best Gaspar can do!?! Vote SHEILA and JULIE!
10:50 pm, You "think Andreen got in trouble with the Oceanside PD?"
Andreen Andreen Andreen. OMG!
More likely Andreen has been hired by the Oceanside cops to get them a pay raise: he doesn't just work in Encinitas, studenti.
Other cities are in awe of how mean and childish Encinitas politics are: and for 20 years Sheila and Bob have set the tone. Geezer rock. Now, all these AARP crazies who have nothing better to do between receiving their monthly stipends from CalPers but sit around giant boxes of Costco wine at Laurie Michaels house and spin about perceived threats to Encinitas diluting and deluding themselves that they still matter and that only 'they' know the truth. Where's Kevin McCarthy stumbling down the center of 101 screaming "They're here!?" The whole idea that a truly demented locally 'historic' character like Sheila (Norma Bates?) has returned because her fringe group of fellow knitters have desperately run out of yarn: has led them to try and convince 'new' residents that only the Weird sisters from the opening scene in MacBeth can save a city that doesn't need saving.Toil and Trouble, girls. Sheila has demanded every city manager of Encinitas be fired since day one of incorporation, in fact, she tried to appoint herself onto the Search Committee when Phil Cotton vacated the manager's office.
Her contingent looks like a local Who's Who for 'most likely to have received electric-shock-therapy in the last 72 hours'. At least that would explain the hair. Hoodlink endorses? What took so long, trouble getting a ride home after getting released from the 51/50?
Jeezus! really, 10:50 pm, if you are truly looking for local's 'rap sheets', try one with the initials AA.
Won't be running for savior any time soon.
Sheila already had a turn at driving this ship of state and she ran it up onto the rocks. Next?
You forgot to comment that Stocks got tossed and prop A passed. Boy are some greedy people scared the disenchanted citizens that have asked Council to do the will of the people, quit wasting gobs of money, start leading into a thoughtful future, are now about to elect in Cameron and Graboi. Yep they are.
Does anyone know who the 22? business owners are that mikey claims are part of his new encinitas business network? I have never seen that list but sure would like to know who to avoid when shopping there. I bet many others would like to know too. If anyone knows who these business owners are let us in on their identities. Thanks ahead of time for providing this list.
There are supposedly 44 members of the New Encinitas Business network. If you go to Gaspar's FB page and scroll down on left side of page you will see she belongs to that group. Another familiar name is Lisa Stocks (who else but Jerome's wife). Click on the link to bring up the member's page, then click on members (44) and you will see who is in the group.
I'm sure there are others that people may know.
You can also Google New Encinitas Business Network and find their website. They do a lot of partying it looks like.
Mikey has learned. Everyone on the website is sworn to secrecy: he doesn't appear before the city council any more, he beat his stage fright, and best of all, he brags that he can as many Confidential Agents working for him as need be: with Andreen's nemesis, the Flower Girl, the last vestige if the Ton Ton Macout) the Stanhopes old money flower growers lending him a grubstake and soon he is engineerer Joe Speed.
Questions, questions. Council candidate Alan Lerchbacker may be good at spinning a few tales in different situations. Was he a Navy Seal? Or did he spin stories about it?
Why is this guy running? Paid off to siphon off votes? He doesn't have a clue about anything! Loaning himself $20 grand? Does he get that back under the table? Something doesn't compute here.
The Rotary club kicks Lerch back his $20K for siphoning off votes? The Powers That Be are determined to put shill Barbie at the helm - Vina, for one, will be over joyed, as will Ecke et al- .Barbie is Stepford Wife,er, Mayor. Programmable!
Lerch the black hole for split votes. Clueless about local issues, photos of him with a long board. Lerch good! The Rotary Club's answer to mudding the waters with a dolt candidate.
You do realize that Lerch and Zeigler are Republicans who are running for the council seat, right? And that Blakespear and Graboi are Democrats who are running for the council seat, right? Neither pair will drain a significant number of votes from the other. Whatever number they do cross-drain will cancel each other out.
That race is between Graboi and Blakespear. Graboi represents good change, Blakespear represents more of what we've had for at least two years.
Then there's the mayoral race. Bawany and Fidel don't matter. The contenders are Cameron, Gaspar and Kranz. Of those three, Cameron is the best choice. We don't need two more years of the disaster we've had for the past two.
Blakespear's sings are up at Los Olas- her mom own's it I think,. her mom does own Fidel's in Del Mar- more and more CB is striking me as a trust fund baby who's had everything handed to her- she has no idea what it takes to live in the real world or how hard most encinitas residentas have worked to live here
Tony doesn't stand a chance this go around except for maybe helping his chances to survive in two years by throwing in his support to Sheila and Julie and creating a majority on council that will hold vina and sabine accountable and cementing an almost heroic selfless move before our community that would be legendary.
Kristen would be gone in a month, Tony's future prospects would be secured for however long he chose to remain on council or even a future mayorship.
This move would also serve to unite a fractured public that shouldn't have to be on opposite sides like we are now. This would isolate Kristen and her developer and real estate interests to a distant second place.
Just imagine the possibilities that this move could accomplish and uniting this community would be your gift that would keep on giving back to you for years to come.
Oh, thank you so much once again, bottom feeder, for your so valuable contributions to the publics discourse around here. You never fail to chime in with some dribble that always fails to advance a solution or provide a way forward that most are seeking.
Your position of enabling and accepting what our representatives leave us all to deal with is secure. I can't imagine where we would be without your invaluable or rather un-valuable statements on our state of affairs.
4:15 - am I to understand that you have not thought of this possibility after the GOP endorsement of Lurch as well as various mailers and signs implying that Gaspar/Lurch are a ticket? If you want a solution, MGJ has already proffered up the ideal solution to rid the Council of Gaspar - but no, the call goes out to have him drop out of the race and give Cameron his votes?!? That is not a solution - it's delusional and an act of desperation! MGJ is dead on with his analysis - the horse left the barn a long time ago. Whatever gains have been earned with the Prop A effort are now being squandered by infighting - who is more ideologically pure - does this sound familiar? Look - I've met all the major candidates, and none of them are really up to the task of running a city. All of them will screw up, all of them will over promise and under deliver, and none of them will be able to shake Vina from his post. Sabine, as a contractor, is another story, but even that initiative is too great a task for these neophytes. As the Most Honorable and Esteemed MGJ has pointed out - scrap this one and work towards 2016.
First, again.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, 7:20. You missed the last Kook pic though.
DeleteThe night started off on a sour note for me. The League of Woman Voters lady told the candidates to remain seated when they spoke. Speakers should always stand if they are able to. Untill they're elected anyway and get to peer down upon the peasants.
Blakespear wants residents to let their elected officials represent us. Shades of Shaffer.
ReplyDeleteShe also says "We need to decide where to put over 1,000 affordable units.". Not "question he units and how to meet the number from existing stock," but "Where do we put them?". Good little foot soldier, that one.
Lurch doesn't understand at-grade crossings.
"Blakespear wants residents to let their elected officials represent us"
DeleteYeah, what is it about representative government Blakespear doesn't understand? Did I miss the last townhall meeting?
Yeah, Lurch thought everyone wanted expensive underpasses. E for effort though and impressive history.
DeleteMost passion for protecting Encinitas' character - Julie Graboi
ReplyDeleteMost nuts and bolts knowledge in answers - Julie Graboi
Most depth of analysis in answers - Julie Graboi
Most nuts, you say?
DeleteFigures.
9:14 Reading comprehension problems?
DeleteActually, the more I listen to Julie the more out of touch she seems.
DeleteActually, the more I listen to Julie the more I want to vote for her and I will. She is compassionate, caring, and would do her best to represent the citizens of our city.
DeleteI am so turned off on Blakespear. She has this "smug" attitude and believes she deserves to be elected because she has lived here a long time.
Julie Graboi is our best choice for council.
Lerch flip-flopped on lights at the hall park. He was against them in Cardiff and, I guess figuring he's now in old Encinitas, doesn't have to stay consistent.
ReplyDelete9:03 In Cardiff Lerch was his own man, what changed? well, looky here ol boy, Lerch got together with Gaspar Sherry Hodges and Brian Brady, that is what changed
DeleteHey Brady, you never came back and clarified for us what went down with Zigler, an honest man
Did anyone do an exray and pat down on Crazy? hope she doesn't go postal!
ReplyDeleteIf you dare, look into her eyes. It is getting near halloween. Mawwaaaahaaaaa!
Not sure what forum you all were attending, but Blakespear was the strongest candidate tonight and it wasn't even close. Graboi couldn't finish her answers because she was bogged down with minutiae, Lerchbacker is clueless. Blakespear clearly and concisely articulated her viewpoints. Tonight was surgical
ReplyDelete9:28- I was there. Blakespear is not interested in representing local residents. She is like Shaffer Barth and KRanz, she thinks she knows best what residents need and swe all shut up
Deleteher answers for the most part were vague and verbose, except when she talked about letting government decide for us the future of the city
I heard from someone that at tthe Blakespear BBQ party she was talking about feeling like she was finally doing something on her own- I guess my problem with that is I would hope elected eladers would be doing for us- but sadly as we have seen they are in it for themselves- Blakespear seems to be the same
There are several elements to a forum or debate. One is the substance of your answers, the other is how you deliver it. The other might that intagible of force and directness of message.
DeleteI could see Blakespeare having a better delivery, but would see Julie with more substance.
Most people here are letting their biases get in the way. Can anyone break down the forum in this manner?
Yeah, you weren't there, because the oft vague and verbose one was Graboi, who also never really articulated how she would get things done. She has a penchant for stating perceived flaws but not providing real fixes.
ReplyDeleteFlatly false.
DeleteOr "flatly false "
Delete9:53 yes, CB is rambling, vauge and verbose- hey this is a woman who when representing a client had to repeat over and over I am running for council, I am running for council, I am running for council-
ReplyDeleteWith CB it's all about her (she even sounds like Lisa Liar)
With JB it's all about the community
The problem with so many people on this page is that they already have preconceived notions about all the players, so much so they refuse to acknowledge that maybe their horse in the race wasn't on their game. Julie was locked in at Cardiff, mopped the floor with CB. Today was much different. But again, I don't expect to convince people who already have their minds made up otherwise
ReplyDeleteThis seems fair in terms of how it might have gone down. In the end, most of the people at the forum have already made up their minds, because they're involved.
DeleteToo bad the people who could use an introduction to the candidates don't show up....
Blakespear is so in the thrall of Barth and Shaffer that I could never vote for her. Even her "fear mongering" comment to Julie's response on Prop A end run by the city was straight out of Shaffer's mouth, verbatim. She has already shown that she will turn her mind over to Shaffer and Barth for her opinions. Do we really need a third mini me?
ReplyDeleteBlakespear's comment at best seemed naive about the devious tactics some developers have used trying to get around laws.
DeleteYes, Blakespear is unfortunately a Shaffer mini-me. Shaffer the ethcis teacher who writes editorials about being honest as a city leader and then who lies on prop A ballot statemetns and in her Newsletter's-
DeleteLisa Liar- no ethics, not integrity, no mora;
Nice post. I agree
DeleteNo apostrophe in a pluralization....
Delete8:24, Not everyone who voted No on A is a liar. A LOT of people were sincerely misled by all the foundationless claims "experts" made against it. Perhaps even council members.
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ReplyDelete".you're". Let's lay off Sheila. I have probably been the one on here the most advocating against voting for her, but I'm trying to keep it above board.
DeleteIt's this kind of abuse that I don't think Sheila is going to be able to absorb. Last time was enough. She has done great things for our city in the past, and will continue to in the future, but I hope it's from outside city hall.
Thanks for your "reasonable" tone, but your message is the same. "This kind of abuse" sounds like it would escalate off this board into the Mike Andreen/David Meyer clown stalking of Maggie Houlihan. I don't know many who would or should "absorb" that level of idiocy. Why those two at the very least aren't peeking out from behind bars is beyond me.
DeleteDespite your tone, 9:59, I'd be very careful about implied threats and how folks react. It's a thin line to walk there.
Sorry, you're way off base. In 1994 there was no internet like there is today, or selfies, no cell phones. Technology has opened the door to a whole level of verbal abuse that wasn't possible twenty years ago. That was my point. I wat totally against the clown at the time and would be now. How that wasn't harrasment was beyond me, other than that public figures were involved.
DeleteThere's no way I'm threatening anybody with anything. That was absolutely not what I'm going to. To put it in plain language, there's a lot of haters out there, we see it now. People have to get the same licks in day after day, Tony's temper, Teresa's pension. I mean time after time after time. It's the same crap over and over.
So imagine what that would be like after we saw the abuse laid down on Sheila last time. Magnify that times 20. That was my point. Is she phyically and mentally up to the dirt that would be slung her way this time? I would say no, and that's not a knock, but that's the way it is....
So you think you know the rule about public figures. There are limits; perhaps you didn't realize.
DeleteCare to expound on the dirt slung last time? Name names? If not, stop with the innuendo. Your dog ain't hunting.
You're barking up the wrong way. I don't endorse the harrasment of people in the public realm. I was opposing it, but I guess that escaped your limited intellect, Dr. Troll.
DeleteYou mentioned it yourself, the guy's name is Mike Andreen, and it was called "Wirefire".
I don't think she's going to win, so it's not going to matter, but everyone on here and on every other public forum could excercise a lot more restraint in what they say, but that's the freedom of an anononymous forum.
I now return you to the regulary scheduled hatefest...
Barking up the wrong tree. You get my point....
DeleteThis blog seems to have the most abusive, intolerant, childish, self-important and selfish electorate voicebox in the city, that just continues to lay the blame on everybody else who doesn't think, agree or vote lock,stock and barrel for them on every issue.
DeleteJust a bunch of lemmings running off a cliff for the last 25 years so go ahead and keep electing these (they're one of us this time) chosen few candidates who keep disappointing you over and over and hope for a different result.
Yeah so what's your point????
Delete1:42 Why bother to come here and read the comments? It's your choice my friend. Just click delete on your computer and "poof" the blog is gone from your viewing.
DeleteJust an observation, no point intended but the obvious...
ReplyDeleteMost here will never be happy with anything that their personally chosen candidate who were elected by many others with different views try to accomplish or change things in this schizophrenic, five communities as one, city.
1:42
ReplyDeleteYes, why don't I just go away if I don't agree with the collective negitivity on this blog.
That's a great motto. How forward thinking of you.
Sorry to disturb your hatefest. Please go on with disrespecting your fellow human.
The same haters on this blog, that hate everyone over time, are the same ones that won't run for council. How ironic is that! You know who you are.
ReplyDeleteThere are no "haters" here. We are all just expressing out viewpoints and observations. We do have that freedom you know.
DeleteIf you don't like what is being said or don't like hearing the "truth" then start your own love fest blog.
Encinitas Undercover has brought things to light that the public would not know about otherwise. We appreciate all the information provided here.
I'm a lover not a hater.
DeleteHowever, the KLCCs r BIGTIME haters !!!
ReplyDelete1:09, why won't you respond to the question on supposedly slung dirt? By innuendo, you have done your work along the lines of "When did you first stop beating your wife?"
You claim Sheila can't take some undefined abuse, then call me a troll when I ask you for specifics. Nice try, but that kind of transparent ploy is much more attractive on a five year old.
To be clear once and for all, it was Mike Andreen of the David Meyer posse that went after Sheila last time, is that clear enough? They did a whole smear job on Sheila so they could remove her as mayor because Bond wanted to be Mayor so he could run for state assembly or senate.
DeleteWere you here or do I need to dig up links. I'm telling you what happened while you're on some kind of which hunt. I supported Sheila in both her prior campaigns. I think we're on the same side here. My point is about how nasty it got.....
Thanks for clarifying. I took your post as coming from a Stocks camp, known for vague, yet damning, "evidence."
DeleteI know the story to which you refer and am glad you spelled it out for others who may first have taken your remarks as I did. Thanks....
Someone who knows a thing or two about Mrs. Cameron is former Encinitas City Manager Lauren Wasserman who was on the receiving-end of quite a bit of inappropriate behavior between an at-will employee, Wasserman and a seated Mayor of Encinitas, Mrs. Cameron. Wasserman kept all the phone message recordings from Mayor Mrs. Cameron at the time (Over a dozen) and used them to increase his 'golden' parachute when Christy Guerin became the 'third' vote to remove Wasserman when he tried to intervene in the Mayor's plans to return 'fees' to developers that she had befriended in Olivenhain named Thornburg. In light of not pursuing legal recourse for damages against the City for his treatment by the Mayor Mrs. Cameron, Wasserman agreed to receive a bump in his ultimate retirement that he will receive annually for the rest of his life.
ReplyDeleteThere is a letter written by Wasserman published in today's Coast News. As for Andreen, he feels sorry for Mrs. Cameron and will not say a word against her to the press or publicly. Neither Wasserman, nor Andreen have forgotten any of Mrs. Cameron's actions or words 19 years ago. Nor have Mr. Holz, Mrs. Guerin, Mr. DuVivier or Mr. Bond. Ask them. While they may admire her chutzpa, none of them have spoken up for fear of returning to the chaos that reigned 19 years ago in city hall. Only in America.
Wasserman - a carlsbad resident sticking her nose in Encinitas? I'll small a rat with a pension. Correct me if I am wrong
DeleteYou have to subscribe and pay for the Coast News. I'll spend my money elsewhere, thank you.
Delete4:29 provides the best laugh of the day. "Mr. Andreen" says it all....
Delete4:50 As I understand it, our city manager lives in Carlsbad. What do you have to say about that?
DeleteOur city manager didn't write a letter to the editor about an election they might not be voting in - WTH Kydd must be losing it to have if that dipstick editor Cagala ran a letter about the Encinitas election from a Carlsbad resident-
DeleteOut-of-town people are always sticking their noses into Encinitas politics. Just ask Gaspar. Her friend Mr. Brady doesn't live here and he has his big nose in our city, as well as Gaspar's developer friends and the money they gave to her campaign.
DeleteHow do you feel about that?
Mr. Andreen (love the Mr. hahaha) does not live in Encinitas. Why does he stick his nose in our business?
DeleteBecause it provides his income, or hadn't you heard? :D
DeleteThe inmates run the asylum.
Delete4:29 PM
DeleteMr. Wasserman himself wasn't pleasant to deal with on an ongoing basis. He was not to be questioned. Strange that he would come out of the woodwork. Did he think no one would remember him? There was also a question about him, a developer, and a house, but that was when he was with the county.
Andreen and his Wirefire site did a lot of the smearing against Sheila, in addition to the Queen of Mean stuff, all so Bond could be mayor when he later ran for assembly...
DeleteWhere is that grand jury report about Andreen and Tucker?
DeleteAll that stuff about Sheila and Wasserman, Andreen and Tucker and the chamber is so old as to not have much relevancy. This time I'm sure Andreen will be hands off, they would love to see Sheila split the vote....
DeleteAndreen is never hands off. Many city sightings all the time. Greasy paws always at work.
DeleteGaspar's PR machine is now operating - the glossy mailers, extolling vague generalities that no one can deny -"fiscal responsibility", etc. The family photo - where is the picnic basket and cute puppy? Endorsed by cops and firemen - American heroes! It all assumes the majority of the electorate is clueless, which is unfortunately true. Kranz is too busy downing another tequila at the local bar and telling everyone how much of a big shot he is - he is the underdog. Odds are the developers got this one in the bag.
ReplyDeleteBarbie. the developers' shill, is likely the next Mayor.
Talking about people butting into on our city stuff. How about Pam Slater who lives in Del Mar. Andreen and Slater should just stay home!
ReplyDelete5:23 for being a lover and not a hater, yea right, it is puzzling you are the only one posting hate references here. You are the only one! It is only you that posts any hate filled comments and almost always accompanies the stupid non existent club that you made up to try to pigeonhole those caring citizens who don't agree with you about roundabouts on OUR 101.
ReplyDeletePerhaps if you could expand your addled mind and relegate your obsessive compulsions to trying a new tact you might be better off. We all sure would be.
Come on charley child, you must have it in you, after living so long.
The challenge to you is to come out of your hate club mentality and grow up and be a man while you still have the chance.
No more club references, no more infantile crazy references that only serve to diminish any legitimacy you might have had in the past.
8:10- oh come on.... H101 looks worse than ever and there are 12-15 dead oleander bushes passed off as trees on the 101. I mean really, you have so much to celebrate.
DeletePS- keep it crappy.
Look for the last time 101 hater... The eastside of 101 is NCTD's blight and they are the one's that you should be bitching to. Call them and demand they clean it up.
DeleteThe dead oleanders do need to be removed. They are in the right away. That said 101, looks better than it used to, those new sidewalks are looking good...
Delete11:34- sidewalks looking good?? Where on the north end of 101 do you find sidewalks?? I only see weeds and dirt.
DeleteTake off your rose coloured glasses hippie, Jerry's dead get a job.
7:43pm Comparing mikey with Pam, really? How uninformed you show yourself to be.
ReplyDeletePlease do compare them for yourself and what Pams' record of involvement has been over the decades and what mikeys record is around here.
Please do inform yourself about what each has done over the years for our community.
Pam has served and continues to serve honorably. Mikey, well not even in the slightest. His reputation has been well earned and anyone that associates themselves with him should know better.[Kristen what were you thinking if you were thinking at all?]
GASpar is not capable of thinking on her own unless her mommy tells her or $tock$ yanks her chain.
DeleteNow, believe it or not, she is enamored with Mr. Andreen. God help us all.
Her campaign theme song should be "Valley Girl". O ma God!!!
DeleteLike totally awesome CFO of a quasi-medical outfit!! It is just like a city!!!!!
Pam was elected 8 times by Encinitas residents. Andersen and Brady couldn't get elected once to anything. I think Andreen got in trouble with the Oside PD recently for bad behavior up there! Brady is a right wing shill from SB. This is the best Gaspar can do!?! Vote SHEILA and JULIE!
ReplyDelete10:50 pm, You "think Andreen got in trouble with the Oceanside PD?"
DeleteAndreen Andreen Andreen. OMG!
More likely Andreen has been hired by the Oceanside cops to get them a pay raise: he doesn't just work in Encinitas, studenti.
Other cities are in awe of how mean and childish Encinitas politics are: and for 20 years Sheila and Bob have set the tone. Geezer rock. Now, all these AARP crazies who have nothing better to do between receiving their monthly stipends from CalPers but sit around giant boxes of Costco wine at Laurie Michaels house and spin about perceived threats to Encinitas diluting and deluding themselves that they still matter and that only 'they' know the truth. Where's Kevin McCarthy stumbling down the center of 101 screaming "They're here!?" The whole idea that a truly demented locally 'historic' character like Sheila (Norma Bates?) has returned because her fringe group of fellow knitters have desperately run out of yarn: has led them to try and convince 'new' residents that only the Weird sisters from the opening scene in MacBeth can save a city that doesn't need saving.Toil and Trouble, girls. Sheila has demanded every city manager of Encinitas be fired since day one of incorporation, in fact, she tried to appoint herself onto the Search Committee when Phil Cotton vacated the manager's office.
Her contingent looks like a local Who's Who for 'most likely to have received electric-shock-therapy in the last 72 hours'. At least that would explain the hair. Hoodlink endorses? What took so long, trouble getting a ride home after getting released from the 51/50?
Jeezus! really, 10:50 pm, if you are truly looking for local's 'rap sheets', try one with the initials AA.
Won't be running for savior any time soon.
Sheila already had a turn at driving this ship of state and she ran it up onto the rocks. Next?
I nominate this for rant of the year. I especially like the Body Snatchers reference....
DeleteYeah, and the handy omission of the Andreen/Meyer clown episode, the very epitome of "mean and childish." All else pales in comparison.
DeleteWhere is the Grand Jury report on Andreen and Tucker?
DeleteYou forgot to comment that Stocks got tossed and prop A passed. Boy are some greedy people scared the disenchanted citizens that have asked Council to do the will of the people, quit wasting gobs of money, start leading into a thoughtful future, are now about to elect in Cameron and Graboi. Yep they are.
Delete8:42- Brillant!! Simply Brillant.
Delete8:42 smells like a hair salon in here, mary, but so fabulous. As always.
DeleteSlater and Andreen have 1 major thing in common - neither live in Encinitas!
ReplyDeleteBut Andreen was never on the Encinitas city council. He lost his bid for election.
DeleteDoes anyone know who the 22? business owners are that mikey claims are part of his new encinitas business network? I have never seen that list but sure would like to know who to avoid when shopping there. I bet many others would like to know too. If anyone knows who these business owners are let us in on their identities. Thanks ahead of time for providing this list.
ReplyDeleteThere are supposedly 44 members of the New Encinitas Business network. If you go to Gaspar's FB page and scroll down on left side of page you will see she belongs to that group. Another familiar name is Lisa Stocks (who else but Jerome's wife). Click on the link to bring up the member's page, then click on members (44) and you will see who is in the group.
DeleteI'm sure there are others that people may know.
You can also Google New Encinitas Business Network and find their website. They do a lot of partying it looks like.
Mikey has learned. Everyone on the website is sworn to secrecy: he doesn't appear before the city council any more, he beat his stage fright, and best of all, he brags that he can as many Confidential Agents working for him as need be: with Andreen's nemesis, the Flower Girl, the last vestige if the Ton Ton Macout) the Stanhopes old money flower growers lending him a grubstake and soon he is engineerer Joe Speed.
Delete8:42 does not offer a single fact, wow, what a demented fool. very tragic, another stephen king novel character..........trash can Mike, trashy
ReplyDeleteQuestions, questions.
ReplyDeleteCouncil candidate Alan Lerchbacker may be good at spinning a few tales in different situations.
Was he a Navy Seal? Or did he spin stories about it?
Why is this guy running? Paid off to siphon off votes? He doesn't have a clue about anything! Loaning himself $20 grand? Does he get that back under the table? Something doesn't compute here.
DeleteIt's a loan. His campaign can pay it back to him. Nice trick.
DeleteThe Rotary club kicks Lerch back his $20K for siphoning off votes? The Powers That Be are determined to put shill Barbie at the helm - Vina, for one, will be over joyed, as will Ecke et al- .Barbie is Stepford Wife,er, Mayor. Programmable!
DeleteLerch the black hole for split votes. Clueless about local issues, photos of him with a long board. Lerch good! The Rotary Club's answer to mudding the waters with a dolt candidate.
ReplyDeleteYou do realize that Lerch and Zeigler are Republicans who are running for the council seat, right? And that Blakespear and Graboi are Democrats who are running for the council seat, right? Neither pair will drain a significant number of votes from the other. Whatever number they do cross-drain will cancel each other out.
ReplyDeleteThat race is between Graboi and Blakespear. Graboi represents good change, Blakespear represents more of what we've had for at least two years.
Then there's the mayoral race. Bawany and Fidel don't matter. The contenders are Cameron, Gaspar and Kranz. Of those three, Cameron is the best choice. We don't need two more years of the disaster we've had for the past two.
Two more years of the "Valley Girl" childish talk is more than I can take. Someone please take her away and have her grow up.
DeleteNO to "Valley Girl" Gaspar. O ma God! Oh yeah....excellent. Thank you, thank you. Ready, begin.
Blakespear's sings are up at Los Olas- her mom own's it I think,. her mom does own Fidel's in Del Mar- more and more CB is striking me as a trust fund baby who's had everything handed to her- she has no idea what it takes to live in the real world or how hard most encinitas residentas have worked to live here
DeleteTony doesn't stand a chance this go around except for maybe helping his chances to survive in two years by throwing in his support to Sheila and Julie and creating a majority on council that will hold vina and sabine accountable and cementing an almost heroic selfless move before our community that would be legendary.
ReplyDeleteKristen would be gone in a month, Tony's future prospects would be secured for however long he chose to remain on council or even a future mayorship.
This move would also serve to unite a fractured public that shouldn't have to be on opposite sides like we are now. This would isolate Kristen and her developer and real estate interests to a distant second place.
Just imagine the possibilities that this move could accomplish and uniting this community would be your gift that would keep on giving back to you for years to come.
Alternatively, Gaspar could bring in Lurch on her coat tails while Graboi and Blakespear split the left of center votes.
DeleteOh the humanity!!
- The Sculpin
Oh, thank you so much once again, bottom feeder, for your so valuable contributions to the publics discourse around here. You never fail to chime in with some dribble that always fails to advance a solution or provide a way forward that most are seeking.
ReplyDeleteYour position of enabling and accepting what our representatives leave us all to deal with is secure. I can't imagine where we would be without your invaluable or rather un-valuable statements on our state of affairs.
4:15 - am I to understand that you have not thought of this possibility after the GOP endorsement of Lurch as well as various mailers and signs implying that Gaspar/Lurch are a ticket? If you want a solution, MGJ has already proffered up the ideal solution to rid the Council of Gaspar - but no, the call goes out to have him drop out of the race and give Cameron his votes?!? That is not a solution - it's delusional and an act of desperation! MGJ is dead on with his analysis - the horse left the barn a long time ago. Whatever gains have been earned with the Prop A effort are now being squandered by infighting - who is more ideologically pure - does this sound familiar? Look - I've met all the major candidates, and none of them are really up to the task of running a city. All of them will screw up, all of them will over promise and under deliver, and none of them will be able to shake Vina from his post. Sabine, as a contractor, is another story, but even that initiative is too great a task for these neophytes. As the Most Honorable and Esteemed MGJ has pointed out - scrap this one and work towards 2016.
Delete- The Sculpin