Wednesday, February 15, 2017

2/15/17 City Council meeting open thread

Please use the comments to record your observations.

24 comments:

  1. Tony Kranz - OK with Encinitas, Marijuana by the Sea.

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  2. They are cool with growing it here but not with selling it. Selling it in Encinitas would compete with the bars.

    Growing it commercially here would result in a windfall of cash and would probably boost property values. I don't know where the extra farm workers would live. Tent city on Encinitas ranch for harvest season?

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  3. It is NOT ok to approve cultivating marijuana in our city just so farmers don't go out of business. We need to do what is in the best interests of our entire city and think about the affects it will have on our children.

    The council needs to take a strong stand on no cultivation, period.

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    1. It should be ok for personal use (cultivation) - the city can't dictate the rights for the individual citizen.

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    2. 65% of the electorate didn't agree with you.

      How will children be hurt by growing in greenhouses, exactly?

      You do realize that if it's not grown here, it will be grown in another city, and transported here?

      In the whole city, we have only one alcohol producer: Soltera. But plenty of alcohol, right? Same thing.

      Your "b-b-but, the children" argument is bogus as an argument against cultivation.

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    3. bottom line is the same as its always been.

      Be responsible for your own shit. Herion and opium were once legal. Yet, people knew that shit has an effect on your body just like booze and smoking. If you can not self regulate or obstinate then you die. Its that simple.

      Let it be grown here and sold here. Its all over the place now anyway.

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    4. The farmer thing is a spoof. The city just wants the tax money. This is a first step designed to lead to the general acceptance of marijuana dispensaries here. Remember, it is always about the money.

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    5. Pot is as freely available as a Coca-Cola. If you consider it a vice, avoid it.

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    6. Not as freely available as Coca Cola, because Coca Cola isn't illegal for minors. Because of its high sugar content, Coca Cola is harmful, and addicting. Many children, and adults are addicted to processed sugars.

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  4. All the talk about children and legally giving adults the arrest free access of the freedom of choice to buy or not, points back to the failure of parenting.

    Just as alcohol and tobacco are supposed to available only to those over 21 or is it 18 for beer and wine?, it is the parents influence or not, that molds our kids to make better choices.

    The Reefer Madness idiocy will not fly 80 years after the ridiculous joke of a cult classic has been shown for what it is.

    Banning alcohol back then only served to empower the criminal element and all the many associated issues that came along with the ban.

    Cannabis has been even more maligned, while ignoring the beneficial properties that have relieved so many of the debilitating side effects of Pharma's stranglehold of our health care options.

    We all can agree, hopefully, that those younger than age permitted adults, should not have access. The endless proliferation of bars makes one wonder where these critics stand. Alcohol and cannabis are, and never were comparable.

    Common knowledge cannot be denied. Constantly referring to children over an adults choice, will be shown for what it is. No one wants kids to have access, but many parents fail miserably to instill the mindset in their children to be aware of whatever choices they make that will have their own repercussions.

    Parents, it is up to you to teach your children well [Crosby, Stills, and Nash]. Denial will get your nowhere. The reefer madness ideology will only cause them to laugh at you behind your back and make them wonder about anything else they have been told or will be told. They are much more astute in picking out the truth than you may think with the social media they have at their hands.

    It comes down to parenting.

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  5. By 2:19 logic, we should ban cars, because they are not safe for operation by children.

    If we allow them for adults, surely some children will find a way to steal cars and get in trouble.

    Best to get rid of them.

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    1. same with contraception - oh my!!

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  6. Same old lame arguments. Maybe you parents should be in the room when your child tells their friends that their parents are going marijuana. Good job parents! You're a shining example for your children.

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    1. I'm going full marijuana.

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    2. If parents are going marijuana then marijuana will be the last place kids go. Parents are old and uncool. That's what studies have shown.

      I'm going to go marijuana now, get a great night sleep, and not be hung over tomorrow. Night night.

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  7. have another beer or wine.... that is OK right?

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    1. A typical ignorant response. I hope you don't have children.

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  8. I do and am educating them that they are responsible for what they allow in their body. You are what you eat and breath.

    I feel bad for your kids. Mommy trying to make all the laws to protect Jr. from the big bad world that exists.

    Sheeze- Choose life and appreciate this amazing world. When you live in fear, you are living a nightmare.

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    1. 7:29 I don't live in fear. I am saddened to think what our society has become -- alcohol drinkers and pot smokers. Just my kind of world and the world I want for my grandchildren---NOT.

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    2. 3:48,

      Thanks. See you at the ETL meeting.

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    3. 7:29 I feel sorry for your grandchildren. They deserve better than a sanctimonious grandparent.

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  9. the war on drugs will only end. When the demand ends. Until then, black market will always prevail, the Gov is wasting money trying to regulate a market is not controllable.

    Believe in liberty and fee enterprise. Liberty will set your mind free!!

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  10. The government does regulate pharmaceuticals, and there is a terrible opioid addiction problem in our nation. The regulations don't seem to be working very well with respect to Big Pharma. Medicine should be non-profit, as should all non-elective health care.

    The government does regulate alcohol and tobacco, too. A big part of this is to gain more taxes, but also, to provide education, and to work toward preventing young people, under 21 for alcohol, from reckless, underage use.

    We don't have absolute freedom, because we have to balance our freedoms against the harm that can be caused by exercising our rights of choice.

    If taxes are too high, the black market will still thrive. The Boston Tea Party was about England's over-taxing tea.

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