No car-sleeping in Encinitas, say lobbying city fathersThe headline implies the opposite of the first quoted sentence that the city seeks to prohibit enforcement. But then the rest of the quote backs up the headline's pro-enforcement view.
[...] The latter lobbying shop is run by Jonathan Clay, whose now-retired father Ben did similar chores for the county, port, water authority, and other government agencies.
Other current clients of the younger Clay include the City of Encinitas, which seeks to “prohibit local agencies from enforcing laws and ordinances, or otherwise subject to civil or criminal penalties, the act of people sleeping or resting in a lawfully parked motor vehicle. While a vehicle may be ‘lawfully parked’ in a residential neighborhood or in the parking lot of a business, that does not mean that it is acceptable to have people live there. The issues raised...are less about parking, and more about the use of vehicles for human habitation, including sleeping and ‘resting’ in front of existing homes and businesses.”
Which is it? Does the city want to punish or protect the homeless sleeping in cars? Who is the San Diego Reader quoting, and why are they arguing against their own position?
You'd never know it from the Reader, but I believe the real story is that a proposed state law would prohibit enforcement, and the city is opposed to this proposed law (i.e. the city wants to keep enforcing laws against homeless sleeping in cars).
Journalism these days.
No GOVT can prohibit someone from sleeping in the car. It's pure nonsense. If I choose to close my eyes at my son's little league game, what business is it of the city of Encinitas?? NONE.
ReplyDeleteIt's time for civil disobedience. I'm calling for a mass sleep-in of vehicles along the 101. Simply tell the officer that you had your eyes closed for a moment and you were thinking about why the city with all it's problems wants to punish the poor or those that don't have a chance to get home to bed. Besides most cops aren't interested in enforcing these laws anyway, they think it's beneath their duty
PS- It's just another govt money grab.
Bullshit. Make the cops enforce or fire them.
DeleteWe will not withstand freeloading scum to infect our city like cancer. We will fight.
Thats right. The homeless freeloaders are like cancer and they need to take their freeloading butt out to the desert where land and rents are cheaper.
NOT AT THE COAST!!!
That is one of the reasons why the ordinance prohibiting sleeping in a car was overturned in Los Angeles.
DeleteThe ordinance was found to be unconstitutional and arbitrary.
If you do not want people parking on the public streets that is a different thing. But it must be applied to all vehicles.
If you are legally parked you can sleep in your car if you like.
Precedent has been set at the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals against the City of Los Angeles who made a law against sleeping in cars as a way to rid the homeless from their.
ReplyDeleteThe LA law was overturned as arbitrary and unconstitutional.
If the car is legally parked a person can sleep or live in it.
QED
Thats bullshit. Can people burn it too?
DeleteIt called the law.
DeleteI can print it out and burn it in your home to make you feel better.
But ignorance will only make you weak.
10:42 is right burn or really, just harass, this is the way neighborhoods have always been 'self-policed.' When a vagrant trys to park in a neighborhood it's up to the local teenagers to conduct 'harassment operations' until that vagrant understands that the 'neighborhood watch' is vigilant just as it has always been generation after generation. WHY do you think that no small town in America has a homeless problem...because local teenagers run them out. I support local teenagers who protect our neighborhoods...go get 'em boys! Traditional America is built on self-relaince and self-policing. When one becomes a vagrant, they must rely on their family to help them, no family means no accountability - hit the road they must and keep on going until you find a place where the locals do not care about their streets (like any City Slicker living in some concrete condo tower...they don't give a damn because they live in a cement box well above the street. For ALL of us who live on streets....run 'em out just as we always have...and have some creative fun doing it!!
DeleteThe homeless bag lady of Encinitas once had a car.. she had all her stuff in it, plus a bunch of potted plants. The car disappeared - I think the cops seized it for lack of registration. Once those crooked tow truck companies get a car, it is difficult to retrieve unless you have hundreds of dollars in cash. The tow companies make it as difficult as possible, so that in 30 days they can sell it on a lien sale. It is pure profit for them.
ReplyDeleteExactly, it's a money grab.
DeleteBS. Tell her to move to El Cajon or AZ.....
DeleteVictoms mentally got you there and will burry you.
DeleteYou pay for your mistakes or expect the results. Its the way life and the jungle exist.
Take ownership of your life or waste it being a victim on everything. Oh yeah... every bad thing that happened in your life was someone elses fault. You have done everything perfectly..... phfffff. I feel so bad for the victim mentally already dying a so painful death.
You don't have to .... choose life....
Choose taking care of yourself and saying FU to the gov.
Victoms mentally got you there and will burry you.
DeleteYou pay for your mistakes or expect the results. Its the way life and the jungle exist.
Take ownership of your life or waste it being a victim on everything. Oh yeah... every bad thing that happened in your life was someone elses fault. You have done everything perfectly..... phfffff. I feel so bad for the victim mentally already dying a so painful death.
You don't have to .... choose life....
Choose taking care of yourself and saying FU to others trying to dominate you.
12:00 AM You a writer for the Reader?
DeleteAmen, isn't everyone except traditional Americans a victim today...
DeleteVery glad that others found the Reader article unintelligible. I thought I was losing my mind.
ReplyDeleteFor many news articles these days, the headline does not represent the text.
All you need know about the reader......
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When a vagrant attempts to park in a neighborhood it's up to the local teenagers to conduct 'harassment operations' until that vagrant understands that the 'neighborhood watch' is vigilant just as it has always been generation after generation. I mean how many of you men DIDN'T sneak out at night and police your own neighborhoods? This IS and always has been the American way! WHY do you think that no small town in America has a homeless problem...because local teenagers run them out. I support local teenagers who protect our neighborhoods...go get 'em boys! Traditional America is built on self-reliance, taking responsibility for your own actions or lack thereof and self-policing. When one becomes a vagrant, they must rely on their family alone to help them out, no family means no accountability - hit the road they must and keep on going until they find a place where the locals do not care about their streets (like any City where it's locals are strangers living in some concrete condo box stacked on top of each other...these city dwellers don't give a damn about the street because they live in a cement box well above the street. For ALL of us who live on streets....run 'em out just as we always have...and have some creative fun doing it!! One more vagrant defecates or urinates on my lawn, the boys will run 'em out just as they always have. Pee cautiously vagrants!
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