Its not "would have". The hemp was growing, the neighbors were whining, so the property was sold and Fox Point is now there.
At least the neighbors have something new to whine about.
The pattern of neighbors whining, attempting to stop a slightly annoying situation or small development and ending up with something much much worse has been repeated in Olivenhain and the former Sunshine Gardens property. Probably others as well.
Right, do you really think someone isn't going to take the money for that property when offered, weed smell or no? 9 out of 10 people take the money. Quit blaming the neighbors...
Notice foxpoint farms calls the poster who is simply pointing he did not provide enough parking, “haters.” Typical elementary school response you get from his crowd.
If I were the developer I wouldn't bother responding to the dingalings at Save Encinitas Now. It's the same people that have been attempting to make this an issue for a couple of years. No one gives a shit about some street parking a few neighbors don't like.
If the city gave a shit and could do something about it, they would. They don't, perhaps because they have family that live there, perhaps because this is a dumb "issue", perhaps because their hands are tied. The councilmen have their hands tied in pretty much any situation where development is involved.
Some of these people or you people and others exposed the propaganda being spit out by top supporters of development. The Dem party is fully aware that the equity/low income messaging failed.
Equity/ low income messaging backfired and BIA spears lost her team. We need to applaud the brave residents who identified the bullshit. No SEN and our residents are not the problem. The voters sent a message..., "get Blakespears people" out of office.
The Ehlers/Jim/Luke team ran successful campaigns attacking their opponents relentlessly and leading voters to unrealistically believe the men could and would do something about development in Encinitas.
Legally, these men never could have done anything, as we have seen with the approval of 5-6 developments in the last 1-2 years, including the largest ever, all with low income units included. They were all aware of this, but fear of development and change is a great way to motivate voters.
Their handlers definitely knew, Ehlers knew, and they chose to mislead voters while simultaneously running extremely dirty campaigns. So now we have 4 aholes in office who can accomplish zero of the things voters expected from them.
This is more about a story of a once quiet beach town being taken over by corporations. Of course people will push back .... as they should. The people had big sac, developers, a power hungry politician, lawyers, and activist after them. I applaud 👏 the brave people who refused to lay down. 👏
But they did lay down, they didn't have a choice. They have stopped no developments at all, and have approved many.
Their only other option was to deny and deal with a builders remedy situation, so they laid down every single time.
This was always what was going to happen, they just lied to voters to win an election.
So great, Luke Jim and Ehlers make angry faces at council meetings, but they are completely ineffective in any way that matters. But they got elected, great trick!
As candidates, the current councilmen knew they weren't going to be able to do anything about these developments. But they ran their campaigns on stopping development, keeping Encinitas a small surf town. Supposedly.
Well, Bruce, Jim and Luke did. Appointee Marco didn't know what a builder's remedy was until he was sitting in a council meeting about it.
They are fundamentally dishonest, plus a little stupidity and laziness mixed in.
So where does this leave us, now everybody should know you're not really stopping development in this town. What will the new axis of dissagreement be?
1253 spin is predictable .... People need to stop expecting that local folks can solve all problems. Sacramento, tech and now Feds ( bipartisan) are after the little guy. That little guy is the soul of small Cities. Did Blakespear just gut a bill to add an admendment to control local government ( bike paths) ? People will need to decide do they want organic down home locals or do they want Blakespear 2.0 in office 🏬
Im absolutely boiling seeing a car parked on a street 28 Hoodamush • 2h ago How dare someone park on a public road paid for with public money. 15 Ham_Stroker_Ejacula • 1h ago All in a city that is dependent on cars! Preposterous! 2 tothefishes • 2h ago It's truly a wonder they'll be able to move on with their day after having their eyes ASSAULTED by vehicles!!!! 9 Red-Zaku- • 1h ago Literally fuming right now
I guarantee this idiots' been saying the same thing for several elections and has been wrong every time. Some day .... maybe .... she will lose an election. It won't be this one. When that day comes, this idiot and other idiots like them will say "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!"
If you want to get rid of the dummies on council you need to get rid of the handler. Everything she touches turns to crap including the FOUR stooges she got elected. Encinitas needs a vaccine to stop the spread-- and no, not talking about Natalie "don't love your neighbors." This disease originated at a wet lab in Carlsbad.
When your goal is to manipulate and use people, you choose people that can be easily manipulated and used... aka- dumb people. She's a narcissist manipulator.
What people, the people in this town? That was the thought when she ran against Gunderson. Didn't work out. Dems have the registration advantage in her district, same way Republicans used to. Time moves on.
Right? I also have problems finding parking on the 101 during the Street Fair. Idiots.
ReplyDeleteSo we're worried about parking by the golf course where there are no homes?
ReplyDeleteYou folks ain't seen nothin' yet. Encinitas is being ruined with apartments. It's over...............
ReplyDeleteBlame the neighbors who fought Bob Echter’s only viable option to keep the greenhouse running.
ReplyDeleteNever forget.
Bob didn’t want to sell. He wanted to keep growing. He had a plan.
The neighbors thought this was a better option.
The hemp/ weed would not have worked in that area. The weed smell alone would have shut Bob down.
DeleteIts not "would have". The hemp was growing, the neighbors were whining, so the property was sold and Fox Point is now there.
DeleteAt least the neighbors have something new to whine about.
The pattern of neighbors whining, attempting to stop a slightly annoying situation or small development and ending up with something much much worse has been repeated in Olivenhain and the former Sunshine Gardens property. Probably others as well.
Whatever you say, Grover
DeleteSo all the other greenhouse owners who sold their properties, did they have that same plan?
ReplyDeleteThis post is about Fox Point.
DeleteAnd Grover, who went on record with the City calling adjacent neighbors “crazy.“. Such a cool guy!
DeleteRight, do you really think someone isn't going to take the money for that property when offered, weed smell or no? 9 out of 10 people take the money. Quit blaming the neighbors...
Delete11:29, you’re talking about what hypothetically could happen.
DeleteWe’re talking about what actually happened.
The neighbors fucked up.
Who needs parking when everyone takes rapid transit🤣
ReplyDeleteWait, there’s transit? I thought we were all on our bicycles!
DeleteNotice foxpoint farms calls the poster who is simply pointing he did not provide enough parking, “haters.” Typical elementary school response you get from his crowd.
ReplyDeleteIf I were the developer I wouldn't bother responding to the dingalings at Save Encinitas Now. It's the same people that have been attempting to make this an issue for a couple of years. No one gives a shit about some street parking a few neighbors don't like.
DeleteIf the city gave a shit and could do something about it, they would. They don't, perhaps because they have family that live there, perhaps because this is a dumb "issue", perhaps because their hands are tied. The councilmen have their hands tied in pretty much any situation where development is involved.
Some of these people or you people and others exposed the propaganda being spit out by top supporters of development. The Dem party is fully aware that the equity/low income messaging failed.
DeleteFailed in what sense? It seems pretty successful here, the city councilmen approved the largest development in Encinitas history, for example.
DeleteEquity/ low income messaging backfired and BIA spears lost her team. We need to applaud the brave residents who identified the bullshit. No SEN and our residents are not the problem. The voters sent a message..., "get Blakespears people" out of office.
DeleteThe Ehlers/Jim/Luke team ran successful campaigns attacking their opponents relentlessly and leading voters to unrealistically believe the men could and would do something about development in Encinitas.
DeleteLegally, these men never could have done anything, as we have seen with the approval of 5-6 developments in the last 1-2 years, including the largest ever, all with low income units included. They were all aware of this, but fear of development and change is a great way to motivate voters.
Their handlers definitely knew, Ehlers knew, and they chose to mislead voters while simultaneously running extremely dirty campaigns. So now we have 4 aholes in office who can accomplish zero of the things voters expected from them.
This is more about a story of a once quiet beach town being taken over by corporations. Of course people will push back .... as they should. The people had big sac, developers, a power hungry politician, lawyers, and activist after them. I applaud 👏 the brave people who refused to lay down. 👏
DeleteBut they did lay down, they didn't have a choice. They have stopped no developments at all, and have approved many.
DeleteTheir only other option was to deny and deal with a builders remedy situation, so they laid down every single time.
This was always what was going to happen, they just lied to voters to win an election.
So great, Luke Jim and Ehlers make angry faces at council meetings, but they are completely ineffective in any way that matters. But they got elected, great trick!
Builders remedy is highly effective at making city councils fold and quit.
DeleteLuke, Jim, Marco, and Bruce roll over like basic bottoms and take it.
The Germans have a word for weak men like this.
Sitzpinkler
Google the literal translation.
Your responce comes across as someone who has a personal dislike of these men vs a policy debate. 🙄 Kind of boring 😴
DeleteJust telling the truth.
DeleteThey quit and rolled over.
They promised to fight, and now all of their supporters are backpedaling into the “hands are tied” trope. Now that sounds familiar.
I guess they were just opportunistic blowhards with no juice.
Most of the comments on this blog boil down to personal dislike or outright hatred, where ya been...
DeleteAs candidates, the current councilmen knew they weren't going to be able to do anything about these developments. But they ran their campaigns on stopping development, keeping Encinitas a small surf town. Supposedly.
DeleteWell, Bruce, Jim and Luke did. Appointee Marco didn't know what a builder's remedy was until he was sitting in a council meeting about it.
They are fundamentally dishonest, plus a little stupidity and laziness mixed in.
So where does this leave us, now everybody should know you're not really stopping development in this town. What will the new axis of dissagreement be?
DeleteStupid, lazy, aggressive, short sighted, morally bereft, etc.
Delete21 st century road to houseing act is law. Bipartisan.......
ReplyDelete1253 spin is predictable .... People need to stop expecting that local folks can solve all problems. Sacramento, tech and now Feds ( bipartisan) are after the little guy. That little guy is the soul of small Cities. Did Blakespear just gut a bill to add an admendment to control local government ( bike paths) ? People will need to decide do they want organic down home locals or do they want Blakespear 2.0 in office 🏬
ReplyDeleteEhlers IS Blakespear 2.0!
DeleteHe's wrapped in a different package, but so far he's ended up exactly where she was.
No one gives a shit about her bill, and it affects nothing currently in Encinitas.
Ehlers is full of it, no matter how grandpa he presents as.
“ Nothing currently,” as sneaky as her middle name wait for her to make her bill retroactive at the last moment. Easy to predict.
DeleteShe is so sneaky! Can't trust that Blakespear. Only Bruce, Luke, Jim and Marco are allowed to be dishonest about development.
DeleteI'm glad Bruce, a Carlsbad resident and a few political donors traveled to Sacramento to show her who's boss and gain some reelection points.
🤙
Delete1:52- 👌🏾
DeleteHere's the reaction outside the MAGAtt bubble.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/1vhjcfk/yikes_fox_point_farms/
Im absolutely boiling seeing a car parked on a street
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How dare someone park on a public road paid for with public money.
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Ham_Stroker_Ejacula
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All in a city that is dependent on cars! Preposterous!
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tothefishes
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It's truly a wonder they'll be able to move on with their day after having their eyes ASSAULTED by vehicles!!!!
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Red-Zaku-
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Literally fuming right now
I’ve punched all the drywall in my house
Ham Stroker Ejacula wins the internets...
DeleteWho runs SEN?
ReplyDeleteGround control to Major Tom, commending countdown Blakespear’s gone! Blakespear will lose this next election, I promise you that.
ReplyDelete$1000 says she wins. Understand voting demographics in North County. Same reason Duke won here back in the day.
DeleteI guarantee this idiots' been saying the same thing for several elections and has been wrong every time. Some day .... maybe .... she will lose an election. It won't be this one. When that day comes, this idiot and other idiots like them will say "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!"
DeleteIf you want to get rid of the dummies on council you need to get rid of the handler. Everything she touches turns to crap including the FOUR stooges she got elected. Encinitas needs a vaccine to stop the spread-- and no, not talking about Natalie "don't love your neighbors." This disease originated at a wet lab in Carlsbad.
ReplyDeleteDumb Marco wasn't elected. He was appointed after Ehlers lied to everyone.
DeleteYou still don't get it-- it's not that they were chosen and turned out to be dumb. That's "why" they were chosen.
DeleteOh no, I agree they were chosen because they're malebale, dumb and inexperienced. With Marco though, voters had no choice.
DeleteWhen your goal is to manipulate and use people, you choose people that can be easily manipulated and used... aka- dumb people. She's a narcissist manipulator.
ReplyDeleteVote for Bruce, deadline day is here and there are no magic candidates. It's either Bruce or a Blakespeare knock off.....
ReplyDeleteChange who's in Sacramento.
ReplyDeleteLaura Basset for State Senate
Laura Basset for State Senate.
ReplyDeleteWhy is Stephanie pitching for Blakespear/Kranz?
ReplyDeleteWhy are the 30 different MAGAtts and useful idiots pitching for the MAGAtt candidates?
DeleteAre you really asking this question? Go back and look at who some of Blakespeare's campaign managers were....
ReplyDeleteYes, it was a joke. Seriously, the gal is stumping for ghosts 👻 mayors.
DeleteBlakespear will lose this next election, people are tired of the progressive socialist party. It doesn't work!
ReplyDeleteWhat people, the people in this town? That was the thought when she ran against Gunderson. Didn't work out. Dems have the registration advantage in her district, same way Republicans used to. Time moves on.
DeleteI’ve been hearing that Blakespear will lose the next election for 15 years.
DeleteCrazy Rachel's latest MAGA puppet.
ReplyDeletehttps://fearandloathinginencinitas.substack.com/p/marika-dixon-for-eusd
Can't wait to vote against her.
ReplyDeleteBlakespear will lose the election that follows the launch of Trump’s healthcare plan.
ReplyDeleteWhen the endless wars end, she'll be voted out....
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