LOL, she hasn't learned her lesson about Social Media. She should just shut it until she votes, you don't tell other people to shut it until she votes. Jeez louise.
It does come across as arrogant, although some of that is the antipathy towards her from Prop A. and her background on as an "academic". LOL, to be fare, this is going to be a defining moment for her to see if she can show some leadership...
"On Council Votes To Change Mayor Selection Process, Extend Terms...
"Until the city council gets 3 members who respect the public it won't get better. Please get more help for Tony Kranz and me (Lisa) for council in 2012. Teresa needs us more than ever." -------
Hmmm...3 members who 'respect the public?' Shaffer not answering the public, nor answering 'to' the public!
Whatever Barth believes the benefit to herself through tonight's chicanery can only increase the growing confirmation of suspicion that from the Orpheus Tree Cuttings Over Four Years Through Tonight, it has been the yellow-belly cowardly backstabbing of Teresa Barth that has emotionally scarred the city of Encinitas, directly connected to Teresa Barth, not Maggie, not Stocks, not Danny, not Bond, but Teresa and her soul sisters, Tony and LIsa.
Careful Kristin, Teresa might accuse you of harassment and claim that any comments she reads attributed to you in the paper make her fear for her well-being. Hey, it almost worked last time. Ask her aunt.
Dalager was in on the Orpheus park tree cutting scandal. Although he eventually recused himself, because his residence is nearby Orpheus, he went over to Paul Ecke Central School and lectured teachers about how their students shouldn't protest the public trees all being hacked and killed.
In the words of Jim Rome, "Have a take, don't suck". If you weren't paying attention after 15 years of Stocks/Bond, then you really were taking a nap...
Shaffer lacks an important characteristic of good leaders: Emotional Intelligence.
She has no empathy that people may have reacted to her agenda item in the way many of us have. For her, we are just wrong to have done that, and she is right. She offers no understanding that other people could react the way they do. This is a character flaw that is very common in unsuccessful leaders, like Shaffer.
First everyone suspects them of backroom deals. Now when they actually put it on the agenda for public discussion they get accused of backroom deals. I'm not commenting one way or the other about the specifics, just about the process. Consistency please. You now have the opportunity to tell them in person what you think about this. Three minutes worth. The question is how many of you will bother to make the effort tonight.
That's because they talk to eachother about this shit off the record and hatch stuff in the backroom private meeting with Gus who checks in with other council members
Then go to the DA and report them violating the Brown Act. Vina (or any staff member) can't be a facilitator to a serial conversation. I think you just imagine this is going on. And please spare me the response about my ignorance of the way the city really works. Facts not conjecture.
The DA does nothing. Council has been reported. The only thing that has worked is private civil lawsuits, which most people can't afford.
The process tonight was flawed. There shouldn't have been two separate but identical agenda items, that were combined for discussion anyway, when the agenda item was moved up to after the consent calendar.
For Shaffer to say, you asked for more open government and more public discussion, and now you complain is more defensive back peddling, because this particular use of the council member initiated agenda item process actually abused the intent of the Brown Act.
Does anyone know if Shaffer and Kranz submitted their agenda items on the same day to the Mayor and City Manager? If they did, it would look like they spoke with one another and could be misconstrued as a back room deal.
Whether or not Shaffer and Kranz discussed it between themselves, doing so doesn't violate the Brown Act which allows discussion between two members. What the Brown Act prohibits is discussing something with three or more members whether all at once or in a serial manner (i.e two members discussing what was previously discussed with a third member).
Submitting the item for the agenda doesn't mean either one discussed the subject matter with the mayor. As long as that is the case, there is no Brown Act violation even if they had previously discussed it with each other. Agenda submittals follow a process and any discussion would need to be about the process only not the content.
The city manager is staff and doesn't count as long as he isn't a conduit between council members for a serial discussion.
That goofy idea of installing Gaspar as mayor for 6 months should be revisited in public and dumped. Gaspar is a permanent downer at meetings and social events, brings nothing positive to most discussions and if you saw her pathetic cheap theatrical story at the "State of Encinitas" celebration - you would run for the hills screaming. She is not a positive example of who we need to represent us at city hall -- and given what she has said in the past, as mayor, she would do everything she could to stop the progress on purchasing Pacific View. She does enough damage as a councilperson. We don't need her as mayor.
Gaspar has nothing to offer except emply words, childish magical tricks, blaming someone else for the city's financial mess (which she was part of), listening to her developer friends and her puppet puller $tock$, accepting out of town money, and above all trying to fool the public in sending out a mailer in her last campaign that was less than ethical.
She would ruin this city in 6 months if she had the chance. I hope she doesn't get that opportunity.
3-2 vote tonight to keep Barth as mayor until her term expires.
11:33 AM The city has already been ruined by Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth. Gaspar may surprise you on the good side. The evil troika of Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth sink lower and lower into the murk of vindictive politics. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
9:47-Ron Ranson-When you use the same words that you did in a Seaside Courier article, or was it the Patch, we are going to know who you are. Why not take a chance and post your own name? Mike
Mike Andreen? LOL, who knows. I like Santa's point, Gaspar is a flat out embarrassment as a city official, I think that's totally evident by now.
That said, hopefully Tony and or Lisa have a good plan for tonight, because their political capital is expiring as well. It's true as the poster above said, at the very least Lisa's apparent tone and manner are coming across as way to superior and condescending to be an effective leader, at least right now.
kranz and shaffer are frauds- under their failed leadership taxpayer debt is up, services are down and the Kranz Shaffer solution is to raise taxes on residents - disgusting
Check the special meeting of Dec10 2013 it's in the city archive about min 19 Gaspar is very adamant about the mayoral process.Gaspar said if you' re the appointed mayor you should not be allowed to run for that offie as you would have a political advantage,Let us hold her to the same test.
I hope the rest of the council bring this information up tonight. It is extremely important and pertinent to the issue. If need be, play the sound bite so Gaspar can hear it. O MA GOD, I actually said that????!!!
The deal to have the 50/50 mayor job split between Barth and Gaspar was made - period. Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth are nasty people ignoring their own agreements. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
Right, but it's not on the books as a law. The same way Barth was shoved aside, Gaspar may be shoved aside. It's politics. Are we really that naïve to think "a deal is a deal" is going to fly as a reason at this point? I don't....
This deal was made in December and was promoted with pride by Barth as evidence of civil behavior and teamwork. Now that she has had her chance, it is being reopened so that someone might get a second bite of the apple. This matter reflects poorly on the Council majority--not on Gaspar.
Gaspar apparently doesn't remember what she previously said about this issue of mayor. Someone needs to remind her. It is SHE who is going back on her word. That reflects poorly on her. What can one believe coming out of her mouth?
Doesn't remember? She's probably going to play the clip tonight herself, twit. It's not how the conversation started, its how it finished: with the compromise.
10:49 AM Discuss her votes in council meetings. Her demonstration at the Chamber meeting was appropriate for the venue. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
At least Teresa and Lisa have newsletters and share information----- You may not like it but they share ------ Every week it arrives .GASPAR AND MUIR have nothing to share with you the adoring fans.They only SHARE WITH DAVID MEYER AND JEROME STOKES..I prefer Teresa and Lisa's take on things .
There was a time when Teresa and Lisa wrote newsletters that were just that. They were objective and were filled with a range of information from both sides to inform citizens.
The last year, these newsletters have become vehicles to influence and not to inform. I don't even read them anymore since they promote such a biased view of smart growth and social engineering.
Teresa was a better minority candidate back when she actually did represent voters.
This blog does not portend to represent the citizens of Encinitas. City Council members are supposed to do just that. They work for us, and they should listed to us. When Shaffer took off the messages, asking polite questions, I lost all respect for her message of "let's talk", that she uses on her other FB page.
12:14 you're right, it's easier to be in opposition than to be in the majority and/or lead. You always know your slot when you're in opposition, and your "followers" will always be happy.
Once you step in to the spotlight, things change. I'm still not sure why everyone is so surprised, maybe more people in this town need to take civics or read about history....
11:43 AM It's not that simple. Already the majority of three have increased the city's debt, taken money from other capital improvements, ignored the General Plan - which is the city constitution, and the municipal code to suit their own agendas. Yes, sometimes Gaspar and Muir have gone along with the other three council members. That cartoon of a swamp of alligators snapping at your feet can be likened to Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth caring about this town. They are the alligators.
11:50 Yes, sometimes MORE THAN NOT Gaspar and Muir have raided the city budget. They can not separate themselves from the problems and now declare they are somehow NOT responsible. You can't have it both ways.
It was the same way with Maggie, she voted with "The Boys" 60-70% of the time.
The difference was she was the master of maintaining her base and appealing to her followers at all times while still maintaining her spot in the opposition.
It's a tricky balance, most people can't pull it off, but the situation is the same, check the voting record.
Gaspar should step back and let the troika have this one. And then whip Kranz' ass in the mayoral election, which would give her more political clout than the honorary title for six months would ever have.
All 5 drank Gus' "let's all play nice and get along" kool-aid. While they were nodding in unison, he slipped nose rings into all and tethered them together. They willingly gave up their free will under Gus' spell.
Fast forward from December: the lovefest unraveled and Kranz, Shaffer, Barth are now looking around like they just hatched. Too bad they made their beds by ceding their power to Gus. It will look terrible for them if they don't now lie in those beds.
Kristin's opening comments were ignored, because Barth was ignoring the fact that Gaspar had already stepped aside once to accommodate her (Dec. 2012) and in Dec. 2013 Barth was dead set on not allowing Kristin a fair turn, instead of taking her fair turn, Gaspar compromised with Barth and now that Barth has taken her $10 million dollar ball and sulked home, that first idea of Gaspar's was completely abandoned and a compromise was agreed on: 6 months for Barth, 6 months for Gaspar: trying to pretend that Gaspar will 'look bad' when the other 3 are reneging on THEIR OWN WORDS can only make Gaspar look bad in that closed-off oxygen-starved little pea brain of yours 11:47 am, that is so jealous and envious of Kristin. Obviously you are incapable of shame, C.J., Kathleen or Kathleen.
Gaspar needs no help in making herself look bad. She can do that all by herself, i.e., "The Great Magician". That is the laugh of the decade I must say.
If Shaffer's having her way to unravel the agreement is acceptable politics, then it is equally acceptable politics for Gaspar to say she meant what she said when she said it in December, and she means what she says now that she could not control Barth's decision not to run, and that a deal is a deal.
Mike, Ok, we get you're point. Why don't you morph to troikanistas. Now you're starting to sound like Lynn.How ironic. Please change your name to Jack Whore.
Don't think Andreen is the only one who thinks Gaspar is doing a better job than the troika. You may want that to be the limited scope of her support, but you will be surprised when she crushes Kranz in the upcoming election.
Follow the money, we know it follows Gaspar. Out of town, Physical therapists and more. Gaspar is a put up by the Rotary Club, Developers, and David Mayer/Stocks.
If anyone wants a real chuckle check out [god I hate to reference the courier}, but his lowness is quoted there saying how despicable the majority are behaving toward his princess. Now there is an known abuser not appreciating his own history with his fellow council members just a short couple of years ago. How quick he forgets his own trespasses and cries foul when similar tactics are brought out by the current majority. He reminds me of the clippers owner in that he doesn't know when to shut up and stay shut up. Now back to the show of sorts thanks to the chamber of commerce and that N.County development hack that I thought we had enough from a few months ago. Gee thanks Slimey for bringing him back. Not.
Were the graphics removed for your initiating post, W.C.? I'm now getting a blank, where I could before read the Facebook comments, in the form of questions under Shaffer's status update post, all of which she subsequently deleted???
People objected to what Lisa Shaffer and Tony Kranz HAD ALREADY SAID AND DONE in agendizing their two separate self-initiated items to reconsider the final rotation agreed upon, unanimously, as a compromise, with Barth's blessings, on December 10th.
LOL, she hasn't learned her lesson about Social Media. She should just shut it until she votes, you don't tell other people to shut it until she votes. Jeez louise.
ReplyDeleteIt does come across as arrogant, although some of that is the antipathy towards her from Prop A. and her background on as an "academic". LOL, to be fare, this is going to be a defining moment for her to see if she can show some leadership...
Her moment came at prop a
DeleteOh and desert rose
Lisa Shaffer's Facebook Page February 12, 2012
Delete"On Council Votes To Change Mayor Selection Process, Extend Terms...
"Until the city council gets 3 members who respect the public it won't get better. Please get more help for Tony Kranz and me (Lisa) for council in 2012. Teresa needs us more than ever."
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Hmmm...3 members who 'respect the public?' Shaffer not answering the public, nor answering 'to' the public!
Whatever Barth believes the benefit to herself through tonight's chicanery can only increase the growing confirmation of suspicion that from the Orpheus Tree Cuttings Over Four Years Through Tonight, it has been the yellow-belly cowardly backstabbing of Teresa Barth that has emotionally scarred the city of Encinitas, directly connected to Teresa Barth, not Maggie, not Stocks, not Danny, not Bond, but Teresa and her soul sisters, Tony and LIsa.
Careful Kristin, Teresa might accuse you of harassment and claim that any comments she reads attributed to you in the paper make her fear for her well-being. Hey, it almost worked last time. Ask her aunt.
Dalager was in on the Orpheus park tree cutting scandal. Although he eventually recused himself, because his residence is nearby Orpheus, he went over to Paul Ecke Central School and lectured teachers about how their students shouldn't protest the public trees all being hacked and killed.
DeleteI agree with Lisa ,you people have to much free time.This String is much to do about nothing.
ReplyDeleteThen why is Lisa and tony wasting our time on this crap?
DeleteHey Lisa. ..... Fix my street!!!!!
ReplyDeleteCan't do that now because we're buying PV. That's what you all wanted wasn't it?
DeleteThe return of "The Paver". Dude, try talking to public works. Shouting about it on here isn't going to get it done...
ReplyDeleteFix all the streets. Quit the trophy projects!.
DeleteOne thing Shaffer has done is alert the public to pay more attention to Council actions. For that, I thank her. I know I will be there.
ReplyDeleteIn the words of Jim Rome, "Have a take, don't suck". If you weren't paying attention after 15 years of Stocks/Bond, then you really were taking a nap...
ReplyDeleteShaffer lacks an important characteristic of good leaders: Emotional Intelligence.
ReplyDeleteShe has no empathy that people may have reacted to her agenda item in the way many of us have. For her, we are just wrong to have done that, and she is right. She offers no understanding that other people could react the way they do. This is a character flaw that is very common in unsuccessful leaders, like Shaffer.
First everyone suspects them of backroom deals. Now when they actually put it on the agenda for public discussion they get accused of backroom deals. I'm not commenting one way or the other about the specifics, just about the process. Consistency please. You now have the opportunity to tell them in person what you think about this. Three minutes worth. The question is how many of you will bother to make the effort tonight.
ReplyDeleteThat's because they talk to eachother about this shit off the record and hatch stuff in the backroom private meeting with Gus who checks in with other council members
Delete2:10 PM
DeleteThen go to the DA and report them violating the Brown Act. Vina (or any staff member) can't be a facilitator to a serial conversation. I think you just imagine this is going on. And please spare me the response about my ignorance of the way the city really works. Facts not conjecture.
The DA does nothing. Council has been reported. The only thing that has worked is private civil lawsuits, which most people can't afford.
DeleteThe process tonight was flawed. There shouldn't have been two separate but identical agenda items, that were combined for discussion anyway, when the agenda item was moved up to after the consent calendar.
For Shaffer to say, you asked for more open government and more public discussion, and now you complain is more defensive back peddling, because this particular use of the council member initiated agenda item process actually abused the intent of the Brown Act.
Shaffer can't admit when she's wrong.
Does anyone know if Shaffer and Kranz submitted their agenda items on the same day to the Mayor and City Manager? If they did, it would look like they spoke with one another and could be misconstrued as a back room deal.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not Shaffer and Kranz discussed it between themselves, doing so doesn't violate the Brown Act which allows discussion between two members. What the Brown Act prohibits is discussing something with three or more members whether all at once or in a serial manner (i.e two members discussing what was previously discussed with a third member).
DeleteSubmitting the item for the agenda doesn't mean either one discussed the subject matter with the mayor. As long as that is the case, there is no Brown Act violation even if they had previously discussed it with each other. Agenda submittals follow a process and any discussion would need to be about the process only not the content.
The city manager is staff and doesn't count as long as he isn't a conduit between council members for a serial discussion.
That's is why shaffer Barth Kranz and muir so desperately want to keep the meetings with Gus from being recorded.
Delete2:12 PM
DeleteYou want to record any council member's one-on-one meeting with the city manager? That's ludicrous. It ain't going to happen.
Bruce will now answer this question, having worked as the go-between, he is confident they didn't violate the Brown Act, for once.
Delete3:10 PM
DeleteForgive my ignorance. Who is Bruce?
That goofy idea of installing Gaspar as mayor for 6 months should be revisited in public and dumped. Gaspar is a permanent downer at meetings and social events, brings nothing positive to most discussions and if you saw her pathetic cheap theatrical story at the "State of Encinitas" celebration - you would run for the hills screaming. She is not a positive example of who we need to represent us at city hall -- and given what she has said in the past, as mayor, she would do everything she could to stop the progress on purchasing Pacific View. She does enough damage as a councilperson. We don't need her as mayor.
ReplyDeleteGaspar has nothing to offer except emply words, childish magical tricks, blaming someone else for the city's financial mess (which she was part of), listening to her developer friends and her puppet puller $tock$, accepting out of town money, and above all trying to fool the public in sending out a mailer in her last campaign that was less than ethical.
DeleteShe would ruin this city in 6 months if she had the chance. I hope she doesn't get that opportunity.
3-2 vote tonight to keep Barth as mayor until her term expires.
11:33 AM
DeleteThe city has already been ruined by Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth. Gaspar may surprise you on the good side. The evil troika of Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth sink lower and lower into the murk of vindictive politics.
Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
9:47-Ron Ranson-When you use the same words that you did in a Seaside Courier article, or was it the Patch, we are going to know who you are. Why not take a chance and post your own name? Mike
DeleteMike Andreen? LOL, who knows. I like Santa's point, Gaspar is a flat out embarrassment as a city official, I think that's totally evident by now.
DeleteThat said, hopefully Tony and or Lisa have a good plan for tonight, because their political capital is expiring as well. It's true as the poster above said, at the very least Lisa's apparent tone and manner are coming across as way to superior and condescending to be an effective leader, at least right now.
Time is running out...
kranz and shaffer are frauds- under their failed leadership taxpayer debt is up, services are down and the Kranz Shaffer solution is to raise taxes on residents - disgusting
DeleteGaspar has shown good qualities as a councilperson. She is much better than the troika. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
ReplyDeleteCheck the special meeting of Dec10 2013 it's in the city archive about min 19 Gaspar is very adamant about the mayoral process.Gaspar said if you' re the appointed mayor you should not be allowed to run for that offie as you would have a political advantage,Let us hold her to the same test.
ReplyDeleteI hope the rest of the council bring this information up tonight. It is extremely important and pertinent to the issue. If need be, play the sound bite so Gaspar can hear it. O MA GOD, I actually said that????!!!
DeleteThe deal to have the 50/50 mayor job split between Barth and Gaspar was made - period. Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth are nasty people ignoring their own agreements. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
ReplyDeleteRight, but it's not on the books as a law. The same way Barth was shoved aside, Gaspar may be shoved aside. It's politics. Are we really that naïve to think "a deal is a deal" is going to fly as a reason at this point? I don't....
DeleteExactly
DeleteThe same
It was vindictive before and this time Barth and friends are vindictive
Some Barth supports now say barth's name is mud in this town.
This deal was made in December and was promoted with pride by Barth as evidence of civil behavior and teamwork. Now that she has had her chance, it is being reopened so that someone might get a second bite of the apple. This matter reflects poorly on the Council majority--not on Gaspar.
ReplyDeleteGaspar apparently doesn't remember what she previously said about this issue of mayor. Someone needs to remind her. It is SHE who is going back on her word. That reflects poorly on her. What can one believe coming out of her mouth?
DeleteKranz, Shaffer, and Barth - the troika of alligators.
DeleteDoesn't remember? She's probably going to play the clip tonight herself, twit. It's not how the conversation started, its how it finished: with the compromise.
DeleteI dare Gaspar play the clip herself tonight. Would love to see that. Another magic show. I can't wait TWIT!
DeleteDUMP GASPAR
ReplyDeleteSHOWMENSHIP IS NOT LEADERSHIP
ENOUGH ROGKS AND SAND ------------ BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
10:49 AM
ReplyDeleteDiscuss her votes in council meetings. Her demonstration at the Chamber meeting was appropriate for the venue. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
At least Teresa and Lisa have newsletters and share information----- You may not like it but they share ------ Every week it arrives .GASPAR AND MUIR have nothing to share with you the adoring fans.They only SHARE WITH DAVID MEYER AND JEROME STOKES..I prefer Teresa and Lisa's take on things .
ReplyDeleteThere was a time when Teresa and Lisa wrote newsletters that were just that. They were objective and were filled with a range of information from both sides to inform citizens.
DeleteThe last year, these newsletters have become vehicles to influence and not to inform. I don't even read them anymore since they promote such a biased view of smart growth and social engineering.
Teresa was a better minority candidate back when she actually did represent voters.
Yet you read this blog? How is this place not a vehicle to influence?
DeleteThis blog does not portend to represent the citizens of Encinitas. City Council members are supposed to do just that. They work for us, and they should listed to us. When Shaffer took off the messages, asking polite questions, I lost all respect for her message of "let's talk", that she uses on her other FB page.
Delete12:14 you're right, it's easier to be in opposition than to be in the majority and/or lead. You always know your slot when you're in opposition, and your "followers" will always be happy.
DeleteOnce you step in to the spotlight, things change. I'm still not sure why everyone is so surprised, maybe more people in this town need to take civics or read about history....
Can you imagine a newsletter from Kranz?
DeleteWould be like the Chick-Fil-A copy lines.
Barth and Shaffer use their newsletters to lie- it is a fact
DeleteKranz can give fashion tips on his appearance make-over.
Delete"Me likes suits and new doo,,,, Me give youz middle finger if you no like!"
10:57 AM
ReplyDeleteThe newsletters from Teresa and Lisa are filled with lies, lies, and big whopper lies. Don't let the troika push you out, Gaspar.
As a past Lisa and Tony supporter, I would NOT trust them as far as I could throw them. Believe me I would like to NOW throw them from office.
ReplyDeleteIt's simple, just don't vote for them if they run again.
Delete11:43 AM
ReplyDeleteIt's not that simple. Already the majority of three have increased the city's debt, taken money from other capital improvements, ignored the General Plan - which is the city constitution, and the municipal code to suit their own agendas. Yes, sometimes Gaspar and Muir have gone along with the other three council members. That cartoon of a swamp of alligators snapping at your feet can be likened to Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth caring about this town. They are the alligators.
11:50 Yes, sometimes MORE THAN NOT Gaspar and Muir have raided the city budget. They can not separate themselves from the problems and now declare they are somehow NOT responsible. You can't have it both ways.
ReplyDeleteIt was the same way with Maggie, she voted with "The Boys" 60-70% of the time.
DeleteThe difference was she was the master of maintaining her base and appealing to her followers at all times while still maintaining her spot in the opposition.
It's a tricky balance, most people can't pull it off, but the situation is the same, check the voting record.
I agree, Maggie was the master at that. She was the perfect foil for Stocks too.
DeleteShe was sort of invisible - not very effective, but endeared because she died.
DeleteGaspar should step back and let the troika have this one.
ReplyDeleteAnd then whip Kranz' ass in the mayoral election, which would give her more political clout than the honorary title for six months would ever have.
All 5 drank Gus' "let's all play nice and get along" kool-aid. While they were nodding in unison, he slipped nose rings into all and tethered them together. They willingly gave up their free will under Gus' spell.
ReplyDeleteFast forward from December: the lovefest unraveled and Kranz, Shaffer, Barth are now looking around like they just hatched. Too bad they made their beds by ceding their power to Gus. It will look terrible for them if they don't now lie in those beds.
That was barth's concoction
DeleteIt predates Gus vina
Huh? No: Vina's been here too long. Anyway they're all in this together, the 5 Stooges.
DeleteAgreed. Council are idiots for supporting Vina when they need to fire him. Every tax payer knows that.
DeleteIncumbents heads will role come November.
It will look bad for Gaspar if she goes back on her word of Dec. 2013.
ReplyDeleteKristin's opening comments were ignored, because Barth was ignoring the fact that Gaspar had already stepped aside once to accommodate her (Dec. 2012) and in Dec. 2013 Barth was dead set on not allowing Kristin a fair turn, instead of taking her fair turn, Gaspar compromised with Barth and now that Barth has taken her $10 million dollar ball and sulked home, that first idea of Gaspar's was completely abandoned and a compromise was agreed on: 6 months for Barth, 6 months for Gaspar: trying to pretend that Gaspar will 'look bad' when the other 3 are reneging on THEIR OWN WORDS can only make Gaspar look bad in that closed-off oxygen-starved little pea brain of yours 11:47 am, that is so jealous and envious of Kristin. Obviously you are incapable of shame, C.J., Kathleen or Kathleen.
DeleteGaspar needs no help in making herself look bad. She can do that all by herself, i.e., "The Great Magician". That is the laugh of the decade I must say.
DeleteI voted for Gaspar ,never again .What a PHONEY
ReplyDeleteThose English as a second language lessons don't seem to be taking, pard.
DeleteYa Ya I voted for Gaspar,what a waste never again,if you want to talk about
ReplyDeleteethics don't call Gaspar she has none a one trick pony
If Shaffer's having her way to unravel the agreement is acceptable politics, then it is equally acceptable politics for Gaspar to say she meant what she said when she said it in December, and she means what she says now that she could not control Barth's decision not to run, and that a deal is a deal.
ReplyDeleteKristin opened her big mouth in Dec,she should be held accountable
ReplyDeleteDon't let the troika of alligators push you out, Gaspar. You are a 1000 times better a councilperson than Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth.
ReplyDeleteMike, Ok, we get you're point. Why don't you morph to troikanistas. Now you're starting to sound like Lynn.How ironic. Please change your name to Jack Whore.
Delete3:45 PM
ReplyDeleteThat should be a million times better than the Kranz, Shaffer, and Barth.
Don't think Andreen is the only one who thinks Gaspar is doing a better job than the troika.
ReplyDeleteYou may want that to be the limited scope of her support, but you will be surprised when she crushes Kranz in the upcoming election.
Thanks, $tock$ stooge, now back in yer hole.
DeleteFollow the money, we know it follows Gaspar. Out of town, Physical therapists and more. Gaspar is a put up by the Rotary Club, Developers, and David Mayer/Stocks.
DeleteWe have to do better than a bad magic show...
Andreen doesn't live in Encinitas, despite his pathetic New Encinitas Chamber of horrors, er commerce...
DeleteHow will Bruce spend the $400K he received from C'Bad to move WalMart to Encinitas and out of La Costa? Stay tuned, Graboi's husband is involved.
DeletePlease link to source. Very interesting.
DeleteIf anyone wants a real chuckle check out [god I hate to reference the courier}, but his lowness is quoted there saying how despicable the majority are behaving toward his princess. Now there is an known abuser not appreciating his own history with his fellow council members just a short couple of years ago. How quick he forgets his own trespasses and cries foul when similar tactics are brought out by the current majority. He reminds me of the clippers owner in that he doesn't know when to shut up and stay shut up. Now back to the show of sorts thanks to the chamber of commerce and that N.County development hack that I thought we had enough from a few months ago. Gee thanks Slimey for bringing him back. Not.
ReplyDeleteSaw that. Laughable that Stocks commenting on behavior by council. He was the worst offender. Maybe he was drunk when he posted that.
DeleteWere the graphics removed for your initiating post, W.C.? I'm now getting a blank, where I could before read the Facebook comments, in the form of questions under Shaffer's status update post, all of which she subsequently deleted???
ReplyDeleteOh, sorry, now it's working. Must have been a computer glitch.
DeletePeople objected to what Lisa Shaffer and Tony Kranz HAD ALREADY SAID AND DONE in agendizing their two separate self-initiated items to reconsider the final rotation agreed upon, unanimously, as a compromise, with Barth's blessings, on December 10th.
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