One of Encinitas' most controversial long-running issues is Leucadia Streetscape. Some Leucadians believe it's a poorly thought-out plan created by city staff that will increase traffic congestion and will not provide adequate parking.
What do you think?
The Planning Commission will be considering Leucadia Streetscape this Thursday.
Is this the plan with the 5 new round abouts on 101? If so, count me out!
ReplyDeleteThis project is the most important project in the city.
ReplyDeleteIt will reduce the deaths on the pavement and greatly improve the quality of life for residents.
The most important project in the city is to lower the train. Will it be done ?? NO, never.
DeleteOne lane southbound, one lane northbound, six roundabouts the size of Leucadia Blvd's.
ReplyDeleteReally? Dumb and dumber!
DeleteDoes Peder Norby rate a side job for this as well?
ReplyDeleteWhy did Norby leave his city of Carlsbad job?
DeleteMaybe Cbad didn't want his "vision."
DeleteRound and round we go again with this disaster in the making.
ReplyDeleteIt will not ease traffic flow along the corridor. It will in fact, slow it down even more.
If the speed limit is dropped from its current 35mph to 30mph, like what is planned, that is fine with me, but single lanes north and south, is as dumb as the now six roundabouts with five of them north of Leucadia Blvd.
For the handful of profiteering property owners who have pushed this upon the rest of the community, we will know who to blame. We know this now. They will directly profit while the residents suffer longer delays on this once, but no more, major arterial.
Emergency response times will suffer due to these road obstructions, and that is what they are when they are designed as these will be.
The city has been negligent in not calling for a poll to be taken from the residents and the proprietors on the 101. It cannot be denied that the majority of business's on the 101 are not in favor. The city should listen to the majority and they never have.
A poll will never be done and we know why. The pushers know they would be voted down.
Once Peder gets his foot in the door, he will call for more and more of our tax dollars. Sadly, that foot in the door has been approved already for another project.
I firmly believe that first payment of $40,000 or $60,000 recently approved to Peder is only the beginning with him.
Did you bring your garage into compliance??
DeleteOh hag is long winded... yawn....
ReplyDeleteShut up, Mikey. Or is that you, Charlie Marvin? Talk about a hag!
DeleteLeucadia streetscape will never happen. We've been arguing about this for almost 20 years.
ReplyDeleteCloser to 10 years. What will stop it? It's with the planning commission this week, on the council agenda in mid-March for first read, then mid-April for second read. It's already on the council schedule, so Blakespear has assumed the planning comm will pass it on.
DeleteGood. Its been being planned with tons of community input for nearly 20 years. While its not perfect, It sure beat the death maker conditions that exist today.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to eliminate that crappy dangerous roadway and convert it into a diamond!!
-Hugs.
That "community input" crap is bo-o-o-gus! Vet this thing using current data and truly involving the community and watch Charlie Marvin's dream go down in flames.
DeleteSorry. Not needed. Now back to your crappy life KLCC.
ReplyDelete-Hugs XOXO
Shut up, Charlie Marvin!
DeleteConfirmation Charlie Marvin is in da house. He's a "revitalization" proponent for those not in the know...developer-speak for "cover every square inch in cement."
ReplyDeleteDeath maker? When? Where?
ReplyDeleteMarvin is for the plan because he's driven by greed. He doesn't even know the details of the plan he supports.
I love it when Crazy Eyed C's eyes spin. Its sooo good.
Deletewhen she speaks in front of Planning Commission this Thursday night, watch her eyes. Its wild in there.
We all know well too much about the deaths and near deaths along that deadly stretch of road. I live nearby and see the carnage weekly.
Show the stats. Show the press stories. Your scare tactics are BS if you don't have facts.
DeleteIt's Charlie Marvin at 6:22. He thinks throwing around his tired terms "crappy, KLCC, Crazy Eyed C" take the place of well-reasoned arguments.
DeleteCharlie, you're embarrassing yourself. Take a break. You live where - up on Neptune? Go walk on the beach, clear your head. Then see if you can make a post relevant to the issue. If you can't manage it, just stop.
The EIR has a major flaw. It uses the failed Measure T for some of the analysis in Section 3.4. City planners didn't correct the work.
ReplyDeleteSorry. Your wrong. better look at the document.
DeleteMy wrong? I didn't know I have a wrong. I know I have rights.
DeleteBike lanes should be put in the vacant space between the narrow 101 Hwy and the tracks - there appears to be enough space to accommodate a bike path, without egress onto the train's corridor. As it is now, it is excessively dangerous.
ReplyDeleteYour old road is rapidly aging. Get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand.
ReplyDeleteThis is a footnote from Vol. 1 of the EIR -
ReplyDelete"1 Refer also to Section 3.4 of this EIR for analyses
of the City’s recently-adopted General Plan Housing
Element Update and associated increases in allowable
residential densities along the Project corridor."
What was the recently-adopted General Plan Housing Element Update? It was Measure T, but the voters said no to the adoption of it. Yet the city planners are illegally using the failed Measure T for the EIR analysis. Throw out this EIR and start over. Fire the city planners.
Congratulations, you just pointed out that the EIR was overly conservative by projecting increased density and traffic along the corridor that will not happen. Therefore, any impacts on traffic or emergency response times will actually be better than the EIR predicts.
DeleteYeah!
Let’s move forward with the plan.
The plan 4A predicted significant impacts. The no
Deleteproject offered less or no impacts. Read the first 10 pages of the flawed EIR.
Since when is an Encinitas EIR ever "overly conservative?" Answer: "never."
DeleteWhen has an Encinitas EIR stopped a project? "Never," according to Scott Vurbeff, the city's Environment Manager. Odd, yet not surprising. Astounding, yet not surprising.
Let's stop this developer-driven, city staff-complicit plan in its tracks.
Blah, blah, nonsense.
ReplyDeleteSupport the streetscape !
-xoxxo
Here is another reference to the defeated Measure T in the EIR -
ReplyDelete"The analysis in this section is largely based upon the City General Plan (including the recently-adopted Housing Element Update)..."
Who is running the show in the planning department. Certainly not the Planning Director. She allows the staff to illegally use documents that have no legal basis in city staff reports and EIRs.
The Streetscape 101 item should be immediately removed from the Thursday Planing Commission agenda.
What is the City Manager doing about her staff using illegal documents.
I don't think you understand what the word "illegal" means.
DeleteYou good with staff shenanigans, 2:17? Sounds that way, doesn't it.
DeleteWe the people would not benefit from Leucadia Streetscape. Only the commercial property owners would. The values and rents would go up, mom & pop merchants would be driven out, more giant buildings would be built.
DeleteThe plan is for Charlie Marvin and people like him. It's about greed and not caring about the effects on the community.
Total Bullshit. Go back to your crappy life KLCC loser.
DeleteStreetscape is for the community and you will see from the public comments, the neighborhood has wanted it for years and ASAP.
The biggest issue is why its taken so fricken long. Incompetent staff decisions at every step of the way. Its gotten worse over the the last two years. Now things that should take six months take two years.
This town needs some serious professional leaderships.
Thanks, Charlie Marvin, for proving 6:45's point.
DeleteStreetscape is not for the community. That's why the majority is against it.
Wrong again. I'm not Charlie Marvin, Sycho KLCC.
DeleteI am not Mikey Sycho KLCC.
I am anon and most of the community want the streetscape as your sorry ass will see on Thursday and when it goes to City Council. Now back to your dark life KLCC, its the way you like it.
9:45 You're barely literate. It's already on the City Council agenda for March 21. If the Planning Commission rubber-stamps it Thursday, and if the council approves it at second reading in April, that doesn't mean the majority is for it. Prop A and Measure T proved the council doesn't represent the public majority.
Delete11:04- KLCC,
ReplyDeleteYou can barely read. As you will see by all the public comments on Thursday and when it goes to City Council later this month, the community greatly supports the streetscape.
Its the 5 or 6 KLCC members led by Crazy Eyed C that can't seem to learn how to drive a roundabout. Tip to the elderly like CEC and the old author dude who has heartburn over everyone calling Beacons - "Beacons", learn when its time to give up your keys.
Shaddup, Charlie Marvin. Your so-called "community support" comes almost exclusively from businesses along the 101 who think bizarrely that gridlocked drivers will be in the mood to go shopping. What planet are you on? Inquiring minds want to know.
DeleteYou 2 sound like an old bickering married couple.....either get some counseling or get a room.....
DeleteThe Beacon family moved here in the 1880s and founded the town with the Hammond family. The Noonan family liked the beach in the south end of town, while the Beacon family liked the beach in the north end. So Noonan's Point was named by the Noonan family, and Beacon's Beach was named by the Beacon family. Later, Yogananda owned what was Noonan's Point, so the name changed to Swami's Point. The Beacon family bribed Rick Shea and an early city council to keep the Beacon's Beach name. Look at the sign at the north end of the parking lot. It names Beacon's Beach.
DeleteHilarious! It sounds real, but it's fake.
DeleteFile under Alternative Facts.
Hadn't heard that one, 10:55. I'll have to ask Rick Shea next time I corner him. Did find this though... http://www.beaconsbeach.com/how_beacons_beach_got_its_name.htm
DeleteOldtimers from the '40s and '50s remember the beacon that used to be there for boats and planes. That's why we called the place Beacon.
DeleteAnother good tip to the elderly to help with driving the roundabouts--
ReplyDeleteUSE YOUR BLINKERS
Read the NCTD comments in the EIR. No new trees on the east side of 101. No landscaping plants taller than 2 feet. No promise of any city use of the NCTD property including the roundabouts in a meandering 101. That means the taking of property on the west side of 101.
ReplyDeleteRead the EIR. Major clear cutting of the oldest trees along 101 including the tree at Leucadia Blvd.
ReplyDeleteStreetscape now.
ReplyDeleteEnough whinging from people who have never said yes to anything. You’ve had your moment. We’ve heard your arguments a million times. It’s time for the community to end the talk and move forward.
Feel free to bitch and moan like you always do, but the rest of us are leaving you behind.
So sorry (not sorry).
Please explain what "whinging" is.
DeleteThat's something only Sychos do.
DeleteThe Leucadia 101 Streetscape, Planning Commission, Thursday, March 1, 6 p.m.
ReplyDeleteNot Plan 4A. The current plan is not Plan 4A the City Council passed by a 3-1 vote in January 2010. That plan had four traffic lanes and five roundabouts. The current plan has two traffic lanes and six roundabouts. The staff has changed the plan without City Council authorization.
Imposition on Residents. The EIR touts resident input. The workshops it cites were 10 years ago. The project has changed substantially since then with no resident input. It's not the will of the people.
City Commitment. The city has given Leucadia 101 Main Street Association $30,000 of taxpayer money annually for many years. Taxpayer money shouldn’t support it. Only about 15 percent of corridor merchants are L101 members.
Longer Emergency Response Times. The second draft EIR revealed that Leucadia Streetscape would further slow emergency response times. It’s been known for years that the times were too slow, especially north of Leucadia Boulevard, but the city did nothing about it. Because increased response times would stop Streetscape dead, the City Council voted to spend $345,150 initially and $564,100 in annual ongoing costs for a new fire engine that will sit in the 101 corridor north of Leucadia Boulevard manned by two fire department personnel.
Major Arterial. The city’s general plan defines a major arterial as a four-lane roadway. Leucadia 101 is a major arterial. Streetscape proposes to reduce it to two lanes — one in each direction — for nearly its entire length. Even though the traffic lanes would be reduced by half, the EIR claims the roadway would still be a major arterial. Lane reductions and roundabouts are not proposed for the city’s other major arterials — Encinitas Boulevard, El Camino Real, South Coast Highway 101. Why Leucadia?
Six Roundabouts. The claim is they’ll calm traffic. Five of the six are in the first 8/10 mile at the north end. The sixth is 1.2 miles south at El Portal. The placement leaves two 6/10-mile and one 5/10-mile stretch with no roundabouts. What the bunching of five roundabouts coupled with a single traffic lane will actually do is double the length of the jams that back up from the long light at Leucadia Boulevard. At their worst, the jams reach La Costa Avenue. That’s 1.4 miles. Streetscape will double their length and wrap them around five roundabouts.
Two of the six proposed roundabouts are at private driveways.
Reduced Beach Access. No driver can get to the Leucadia beaches between Encinitas Boulevard and La Costa Avenue without driving on or crossing Leucadia 101. If Streetscape is implemented as planned, its traffic lane reduction and six roundabouts will make the existing traffic jams worse and severely reduce beach access.
Three Commercial Constraints. Commerce in the Leucadia 101 corridor is constrained in three ways. First, all the businesses except a few across from A Street are on the west side of 101. It’s not like downtown Encinitas with businesses and parking on both sides of 101 and side streets. Second, the commercially zoned area is very narrow, about 60 to 80 feet except at the extreme south end and even there the depth is not great. Again unlike downtown Encinitas where the commercial zone is two and even three blocks deep. And Prop A constrains the building heights to 30 feet, so the Leucadia 101 commercial corridor really can’t grow much. Third, there’s nowhere near enough parking now. Streetscape would add 134 spaces, and that number would drop when the Coastal Rail Trail is built. To equal Solana Beach’s 101 corridor parking capacity, Leucadia 101 would have to add 2,700 spaces. The only place that could be done is in the entire length of railroad right of way between the tracks and the east side of 101. That’s where Streetscape would add its measly 134.
The streetscape greatly increased commerce in downtown Encinitas. Leucadia Streetscape can’t produce anything comparable due to the three constraints given.
Urge the Planning Commission to reject Leucadia 101 Streetscape.
blah, bla, blah...some old lame crap from the same old lame crappy people.
ReplyDeleteI want the streetscape now to improve that ugly deathtrap. I will be urging the Planning Commission to recommend approval to the City Council
Broken record of bullshit.
ReplyDeleteStreetscape now.
Destroy Leucadia with Streetscape now. Love the smell of diesel fumes from heavy equipment in the morning.
ReplyDeleteThe diesel fumes we are currently getting from all those cut through I5 trips flying through our town when they should be staying on I5.
ReplyDeleteStreetscape will help solve this issue and give locals our street for our needs.
Streetscape now... put the crappy BS in the sewer were it belongs.
Destroy Leucadia with Street-scrape now. Bird Rock's local coffee grinder was sold to a Kansas City company. What Leucadia small businesses will fold with Street-scrape now? Street-scrape now with no more cars. Bikes and walkers only.
ReplyDeleteWha Wha Wha.... same ol' same ol'
ReplyDeleteI can't wait! Bring on a street like birdrock. Sweet!!!
Correction - Bird Rock Coffee Roasters.
ReplyDeleteCouncil should imitate Bird Rock and form a MAD, "The Bird Rock Maintenance Assessment District (MAD) provides enhanced maintenance services in addition to those provided by the City of San Diego (City). These include maintenance of the public landscaping associated with the traffic-calming improvements along La Jolla Boulevard and adjacent residential side streets, graffiti removal, sidewalk sweeping, and minor capital projects."
ReplyDelete"The community formally approved the formation of the MAD via mail-in ballot in July 2005. The approval included the stipulation that the MAD be managed by the BRCC, under contract to the City, rather than be managed by City staff. The ballot also included approval of an initial maximum assessment of $90 per year per single family home, about $63 per year per condominium, and $460 per year per typical-sized commercial property. The maximum allowable assessment rate increases yearly, is determined by the City, and is tied to the Consumer Price Index (CPI)."
It works for Bird Rock.
Leucadia Street-scrape now with a Maintenance Assessment District.
The Bird Rock roundabouts are not similar to those proposed for Leucadia 101. They’re at five successive intersections in a half-mile stretch of road. Four are at four-way intersections, one is at a T intersection. There are residences and business on both sides of La Jolla Boulevard through that stretch.
ReplyDeleteThe Streetscape project corridor is 2.5 miles long. The six proposed roundabouts are all at T intersections. Five of the six are in 8/10 mile at the north end. Two are at private driveways. All the residences, and all but a very few businesses are on one side of the road.
Can we put the completely bogus Bird Rock-Leucadia comparison to rest, please?
Irrelevant twaddle.
DeleteStreetscape now.
Lesson learned:
ReplyDeletehttps://la.curbed.com/2017/10/18/16501128/playa-del-rey-road-diet-lane-reduction
Completely different context . Ours will work great like Bird rock .
ReplyDeleteBring on the streetscape now !!!
Bird Rock is not like Leucadia 101. That's a bogus argument. It reveals what a scam Streetscape is.
DeleteThe Bird Rock roundabouts are not similar to those proposed for Leucadia 101. They’re at five successive intersections in a half-mile stretch of road. Four are at four-way intersections, one is at a T intersection. There are residences and businesses on both sides of La Jolla Boulevard through that stretch.
The Streetscape project corridor is 2.5 miles long. The six proposed roundabouts are all at T intersections. Five of the six are in 8/10 mile at the north end. Two are at private driveways. All the residences, and all but a very few businesses are on one side of the road.
Discussing Streetscape with 1:24 is like arguing with a r3tarded parrot.
DeleteStreetscape now.
Safety. Beauty. Economic benefit. Improved Traffic. Environment.
2:25 You must not live in Leucadia cause you know nothing about the project. Maybe you're just a habitual liar.
Delete4:49, If there was an Olympics for wrongness, you’d be a shoe-in for gold.
Delete1:24- crappy comment.
ReplyDeleteComplete streetscape. It’s long overdue
Build the streetscape now!!!
ReplyDeleteEnough talk.
It’s way overdue. Build it now!!
Well how about that? All those residents not developers in favor of the streetscape and
ReplyDeleteone old cranky stressed out fire engine driver who needs to retire because he hasn't figured out how to drive a truck in 20 feet clearance and through roundabouts.
Firemen throughout the county, Encinitas, and all California rip through the roundabouts daily, yet Smith can't do it.
So sad . The old dude needs to retire and move to a retirement community with golf carts. Glad he doesn't work for Encinitas! Ha! Ha!!
I wonder why the Beacon blowhard didn't say his piece. Probably realized how stupid he sounds. He better stick to writing and critiquing other people's grammar on blogs. Ha.
You're a sore winner! Your gloating reveals your low character. You're living proof that an educated person can be willfully ignorant and stupid at the same time.
DeleteI have to wonder where all the opponents were. Oddly MIA, considering the average Leucadian hates the project.
Deleteobviously.... Ha... good one.
DeleteFrom my understanding, the KLCC only has about 5 members. Where was Crazy Eyed C and the L word anyway?
They are always good for laugh. But you did bring your A game with Smith.... He never disappoints and always cracks me up. Thanks!!!
Maybe all five of you can speak at City Council? Now that would be special. Please do. I can't pay to get better entertainment then you guys. Ha!
Better yet, bring Spam. She's always good for.a good laugh. Please ask her to wear one of her awesome miniskirts. Haaa!
Good Job Planning Commission! Now its time for City Council to approve it. Remember City Council, this project has been discussed for 20 years. The EIR itself has taken 3 years alone- longer then the entire first phase of planning, design and construction should have taken. Please show a new professional sense of urgency and make the motion to approve relatively quick. Direct staff to get the Coastal Development Permit and bid this project within the next 8 months.
ReplyDeleteThis City has a method of killing projects through crappy planning, execution and delay tactics. Example- take that F'd up EIR. It could not have been any worse.
I think 20 years is long enough. The direction to staff should be complete construction on the entire streetscape from La Costa to A street by 1/1/2020 or heads will role.
Remember World War II lasted 6 years, the Apollo program which accomplished landing the first humans on the Moon took 3 years (from 1969 to 1972).
ReplyDeleteThis project is relatively easy moving around some curb, paving, and landscaping. Bid it and build it. Its not that big of a deal. Many Cities have completed these streetscapes in a 1/10 of the time its taken for our City to crawl to the point. Lets get it done!