Del Mar Times:
The Deputy Mayor of Encinitas and his husband are alleging that a local Christian school discriminated against their family for their sexuality after they inquired about enrolling their son into the school.Did the politically ambitious, progressive Democrat really want his son to attend a conservative Christian schoool, or is he using his kid for a political stunt? You make the call.
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Mosca said he and his husband were originally attracted to Santa Fe for their curriculum, community and sports orientation. They were also referred to the school by friends who either attended the school or had children that attended the school. Garrett also played on a lacrosse team last year that was run by Santa Fe's coach.
Definitely political. Mosca is no shoo-in come November. He will face some competition in his new district. He's not a legitimate incumbent after having been appointed.
ReplyDeleteThe whole thing smells of political opportunism. It's not as if Encinitas doesn't have excellent public schools.
Joe's most persuasive schtick when he was in Sierra Madre was victim. He won votes by convincing people that he was being discriminated against.
ReplyDeletePolitical stunt. Mosca came here from Sierra Madre where he regularly verbally abused residents, then tried to paint himself as victim.
ReplyDeleteBigoted as the school's policy and administrators are, they are within the law. Mosca can hardly be the only person who has met with this attitude and rejection by Santa Fe "Christian." The Coast News article covering this non news dripped with pity for Mosca. Whether wittingly or not, writer Burgin was used as a tool.
Mosca found Blakespear/Horvath-Boerner and in him, they had their third vote They mean to keep him on Council and this story conveniently fits in with the plan.
This "Christian" school is not what I would consider Christian. If they were discriminating against children of Hispanics there would be public outrage.
DeleteJesus would definately reject children if he didn’t agree with the parents.
ReplyDeleteOr if they ate shellfish.
Or if they wore clothes made from two different fibers.
Not a mosca fan but less of a fan of intolerance and religions who practice it. This is 2018, that sharia law/nazi crap can take a hike. We already know they have no respect their neighbors or city rules. Well, no tolerance for them either. Calling the city today to demand Santa Fe nazis return the lot and its drainage to it original configuration. They did all that work without a permit. Are they not required to put back after being caught, twice? The aholes also turned off the water to the streetside landscape. They don’t like gay people or plants I guess. Picket line?
ReplyDeleteahh.....Sharia Law is growing and expanding. No go zones in Grrmany, Sweden, NorwY, Denmark, France and the UK. Turkey neR invading Greece. Christian genocide occuring throughout the middle east. Sharia= female genital mutilation.....it is happening in Detroit.
DeleteThe school isn't even in Encinitas. It is in solana beach. They do have a day care in a church in Encinitas, but they don't play lacrosse there.
DeleteThe Moscas versus Bible bonkers evangelicals. Just when you though Encinitas politics couldn't get any weirder.
ReplyDeleteBad form, EU.
ReplyDeleteVivian Malone Jones was also accused of being an agitator executing a political stunt.
Unless you can know the inner thoughts of people, it’s arrogant and ugly to question motives.
The only thing we know for sure is that the school did reject a student because his parents are gay. We know this because the school confirmed it.
A lot of businesses retain the right whether or not to serve customers. You cannot force "tolerance" on an unwilling party - that is freedom of choice.
DeleteFreedom of choice for whom?
DeleteSadly, it is the law that they can discriminate. Take it up with your Federal reps; this where the battle is being fought.
DeleteMosca and spouse claim that really good people/friends recommended Santa Fe Christian. Will those upstanding citizens take their kids and money out of the school, assuming they're as horrified as is claimed? If not I'd say Joe and family need new friends.
Not ugly and arrogant, 12:23. Many who first heard this story elsewhere thought immediately it was publicized for political gain.
ReplyDeleteWhat we do know about Joe Mosca is that he is just as politically ambitious as his closest colleagues, Catherine Blakespear and Tasha Boerner-Horvath.
This is classic Mosca to play the victim loudly in public in an attempt to advance himself politically and it should be no surprise to anyone who's watched his Council performance both in Sierra Madre and here that his story should be met with cynicism.
How many other articles have been written on this school's reprehensible policy? How many other rejected families have been profiled in the media? The policies of this school apply to any gay parents who wish to place their kids there; why in Mosca's case is it front-page news?
10:07 AM
ReplyDeleteYour comparison is illogical. This isn’t about race. SFCS is a Christian school teaching principles from the Bible. It would make sense that they would assume it would be uncomfortable for a young man/boy to be placed in a school that teaches homosexuality to be sin. Thankfully, there are other options for this “dad.” Many have not been granted admission to this and other schools and respected the rights of this private organization. A small segment of the population demands everyone tolerate their behavior whle they refuse to respect the centuries-held beliefs of many people and faiths. Interesting times.
There are interpretations of the bible that say it forbids race mixing. There were very popular just a few decades ago, and are likely still popular in your social circle. From your language, I gather you would support the school not admitting products of mixed race marriages. Yes, interesting times that people of your ilk are disappearing!
DeleteJust not disappearing fast enough!
DeleteI can't help but wonder why they would want their child to go there in the first place? Encinitas does have good schools. What is special about SFC? And, I am sure others have not been allowed to go to this school. So why did this make the news at all? If I were a gay parent I wouldn't want my child to go to a school that discriminates on any level. Seems as if they should have checked it out before making a public statement about it. I don't like the discrimination, but I also can't help but wonder if this isn't a political ploy so that Mosca and his family can be victims. Tough call.
ReplyDeleteNot really.
Delete“can be victims”
DeleteWith or whiteout a news article, Mosca and his family are—in fact—victims of discrimination in this case. By definition. Do you dispute that fact? Because the school doesn’t.
If that is the school's stated policy, how can they be "victims?" There was no bait and switch, they were met with "you're not welcome here" before the son set foot in a classroom.
DeleteAnd even conceding your point, it is darned near impossible not to believe the victim status is politically motivated given the spotlight attention Mosca is calling to himself. Notice he is not reaching out to others similarly affected...no, this is all about Joe and all about making him as sympathetic (and electable) a character as possible.
4:07,
DeleteSo if discrimination is a written policy of the organization denying service, then the denial isn’t discrimination?
By the way, the school doesn’t have a policy against students with gay parents. It has one that says the parents have to uphold undefined Christian standards in the home. It’s the vague and subjective interpretation of that policy that smells to high heaven (pun intended.)
How many families of divorce have they admitted? How many children of alcoholics? How many children have been expelled when a parent was convicted of a crime? How many kids in that school have parents in counseling for abusive behavior in the marriage?
I’m betting this “policy” means something very different in those scenarios.
Of course, it's discrimination! Not one denies that. It's also legal. That is one issue,
DeleteA separate issue is the question of whether Joe is publicizing this for political gain. I think he is. I've watched him for awhile now and there is no doubt my mind.
Ha, no doubt IN my mind.
DeletePrivate school means just that, private. Why would Mosca wNt to enroll his kids in a religious program he does not believe in? If Mosca is entitled to his beliefs, shouldn-t others be entitled to theirs? Is Mosca the intolerant threatening bully? Is it biologically impossible for a boy to have 'two daddies"?
DeleteYou were doing ok until that idiotic sentence that gave you away as the disgusting bigot you are.
DeleteClassic SFC.
ReplyDeleteAs a school, they need to be a little more upront about NOT being non-denominational (though I doubt they could stay in business without the attendance of Catholics, Episcopalians, etc). They are an EVANGELICAL school, which, as a denomination, has clearly established itself against same-sex relationships. They are wrong, but legally they have the right to curate their bubble.
Clearly, this couple cares deeply about their faith and is active in their religious community. I’m sure it legitamately WAS shocking (to the disbelief of some commenters here) to be told by other parents that they’d be welcome (as they are in their Church) and then not be welcomed by SFC. As much as the evengelical church would like to believe otherwise, there are plenty of “good” Christians and Christian sects that are NOT buying into some of the evangelical’s more antiquated (and biblically cherry picked) religious ideas.
The suggestion that this family was looking for trouble is gross, but not surprising coming from people that truely believe homosexuality has no part in God’s plan. Again, plenty of Christians have read their Bibles, searched in their hearts, and realized that this particular tennant of the Evangelical Christian faith is paranoid, discriminatory, and inconsistent with the Jesus they know.
I faced plenty of pregidous at SFC against my family’s Catholicism (jokes about the crusades and the Virgin Mary from students and teachers, my mom being told that she was not welcome to volunteer with the board, etc). Lord only knows how things would have turned out if I had stayed for highschool (where I eventually came out as gay). But in a culture where it was totally cool with everyone for a teacher to say they’d prefer if “all the gays were rounded up and shot,” and “smear the queer” was played regularly in PE, I’m sure it would have been harder than it already was.
I’m absolutely sure that the parents that recommend the school to Joe and Matt were being sincere. Unless you have to deal with homophobia on a daily basis, it’s easy to believe that the institutions that support you and your family, institutions filled with lots of other kind and progressive people, would also support a gay family. But at the end of the day, the school is rooted in Evangelical Christian Fundamentalism, and they won’t hesitate to bar “the gays” from their institutions.
Thanks Joe and Matt for bringing this issue to light. Here’s hoping that SFC families that are not comfortable with this policy will reconsider their choice of schools.
I’m glad I did.
Thoughtful well written comments have no place on Encinitas Undercover.
DeleteHave you tried evening adult classes?
DeleteProven drama queen... why would they even apply?
ReplyDeleteSo ridiculous.... OMG.
AGAIN: no one is taking away from the wrongness of the school's position. Or the shock/sadness/anger Mosca and Bosse must feel.
ReplyDeleteThat said, Mosca is and will continue to use this for political gain.
I view it somewhat differently.
DeleteI agree that the school has broken no law and they are within their rights. But the Mosca family are also within their rights to expose the school publicly. Maybe it’s good politics for Mosca, but it’s also a public service to shine a spotlight. Some people don’t believe gays still experience discrimination in education, employment or housing. They might not realize that such discrimination extends to children and families.
So maybe it is a political act. But if it stimulates a conversation that leads to change, then it’s exactly the kind of political act we need.
Just remember come election time: judge him by his lockstep voting with Blakespear and Horvath and not by the fact that his kid was discriminated against. Judge him by his developer-friendly bias and not this school story.
DeleteMany will cast their votes for a perceived underdog, not on whether Mosca has served residents, or instead the BIA.
Does anyone find it odd that a supposed progressive democrat would want to turn his back on high quality union staffed Encinitas public schools and instead send his kids to an ultraconservative evangelical school? Why would you ever want to do that? Makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteBecause he's a drama queen. Always needs to be in the spotlight.
DeleteGlad I don't live under his roof. Feel bad for the kids needing to appease "Mom/Dads" unsettled ego....
Your homophobic bias makes your posts irrelevant, 6:05. Can you express your self logically, minus the bigoted jabs?
DeleteI agree that turning his back on our local school system is kind of lame. He's supposed to be a city official; show some faith and support for our local institutions. We have great teachers and programs.
DeleteHe may or may not be a nice fellow personally, but I never quite felt comfortable with his presumptions about our city and what we want as a community. He arrived only a few years ago, as a politician by vocation, and starts talking "we in Encinitas..." or "our community wants...." etc.
He hasn't earned it yet. He's not a local still it seems, and by sending his kids to private school in another city he's demonstrating that Encinitas is not in his blood.
7:25- Are you inferring that they did know they would be turned down, but wanted the publicity? Hard to believe they didn't know the school's position, which to me is indefensible. However if it is legal,and I don't even know if it is, why would anyone who was not an evangelical Christian want to send their kid there? I am gay,and I would never send my adopted child to any school like that. As one person said, there are wonderful public schools in Encinitas. My son went to Paul Ecke, and San Dieguito and the curriculum is excellent. He is now at Cal Berkeley and doing well, so our schools must be doing something right. Also, why is this the first time all of us are hearing about it? Lots of kids have gone to that school and I am sure lots of kid have been rejected by some form of "profiling". I feel sorry for their son having to be put in the middle of this bullshit. I am no fan of Mosca after watching the videos from some Sierra Madre City Council meetings. And personally, although I don't live in his district so can't vote against him, I hoe people vote him out. Not just because of this, but so many other things. Maybe he is desperate for attention?
ReplyDeleteThank you, 7:51. You put in plain terms just what smells fishy about this whole story and, by coming from a gay person's perspective, are uniquely positioned to call bullshit here.
DeleteI agree. The Mosca appointment was BS and he knows he doesn't stand a chance if someone other than Stocks runs. Even Crazy Eyed C could beat this tool.
DeleteOMG....Can someone say insecure drama queen?
Mikey can't type without giving himself away. Self-haters are the most vicious in that community.
Delete7:25 has a point. Why would you want to send your kids to a union busting right wing so-called academy that promotes hate? The best way to stop that crap is not by getting your story published in trendy arts and leisure weeklies. It is done by standing up for public education.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. This is good advertisement for SFC, and shows the world more about the Mosca drama need.
ReplyDeletePoor kid. Mdad's action will really help out this middle school situation. Nothing like starting off with your wings clipped by good old Mdad.
What is "Mdad?" I thought at first it was a typo, but you used it a second time.
DeleteIt means 6:12 is an asshat.
DeleteYou are so right, 11:04!
DeleteFunny u bring ass into the conv....
DeleteYou seem a little too fixated.
DeleteMaybe you just have a “wide stance.”
Media blitz. Going tube.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.10news.com/news/same-sex-couple-says-school-discouraged-their-sons-application
All going according to Mosca's plan.
Deleteutube his experience in the last city he lived in (only a couple of years ago). They recalled him and he moved because his neighbors didn't like him or his husband.
ReplyDeleteI don't care about his husband. I care that he makes decisions, based on what Blakespear tells him make, that affect me. He was appointed by her and clearly feels he owes her. It's like they struck a deal beforehand.
DeleteBlakespear seems to think that getting lockstep council votes is either what she was elected to do or is some kind of personal goal. It's weird.
If there is any other candidates besides Jerome stocks and crazy eye c, I think mascara is out next election.
ReplyDeleteIt's all political to gain sympathy, and it sounds like Mosca's SOP.
ReplyDeleteGo the the SFCS website and its pretty clear what their beliefs are. The beliefs of the 2-parties, whatever your opinion of them, are not going to match up, so move on unless you've got an agenda (sympathy).
Also, if Mosca's a catholic, why doesn't he send his kid to the local, Encinitas catholic school, St. John School? There is something more here, and its called political strategy.
What's wrong with the public schools. This is a slap in the face to every public school teacher! He told me that the local teachers are unprepared and average at best. I was shocked that he actually told this to me.
DeleteYou were shocked! You, like me, have zero credibility because you...are one of 7B+ potential "anonymous"!
DeleteSad playing his kid for a political Ponzi scheme . POS .
ReplyDelete8:07 - 4:54 sounds like Mikey or a copycat on Mikey's meds.
ReplyDeleteThe Mickey claim sounds tied closely to dementia.
ReplyDeleteCrazy eyed C or the Lword likely .
Check yourself into a facility, Mikey. We know you when we hear you, your obsessions are sick and your references old. Talk about crazy...time to get a new act.
Delete9:38pm. The rutting season is year round for slimy mikey.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, no, I am not either of the women that you blame for calling you out.
Does it ever get old for you?
These women would not bother to lower themselves to your level.
Others like myself refuse to give you a pass. TIME IS UP for anyone that supports such bullying.
You need professional help.
OK Mikey-
DeleteWhatever you say.... can you remember where you live today?
remember - You got kicked out of being Mayor because you were so crazy.... they eyes always so it.
I don’t care one bit about about Mosca’s sexual orientation. Carpet bagging career politicians like this should never be appointed to our city council. Has anyone on this council been in town consistently for more than a few years besides Muir? Kranz doesn’t count he’d sell the town he grew up in for a beer downtown.
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