The city recently held two "stakeholder" meetings on housing that were not noticed to the public and attended by staff, consultants, and developers.
Recommendations coming from the meetings include raising the height limits to three stories and 37 feet, and reducing parking requirements.
Details on the attendees and recommendations can be found in the agenda report for this Wednesday's council meeting.
Vote NO!
ReplyDeleteWe had been promised an open process but then the "stakeholders" corrupted it. Of course they say they want 37 feet and cannot profit from parking but these self-serving comments had no opportunity for public review and are already being rushed to HCD before the public has a say.
ReplyDeleteEncinitas has a long history of rejecting such measures and this one must also be voted down. The mayor and council will also find their seats are in trouble.
Once again, residents are excluded from "stakeholder" meetings. Only profit matters. The HEU is headed down a rathole again this November.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely - vote NO.
DeleteThe city's idea of stakeholders is as corrupt as could be.
ReplyDeleteThe residents who pay them with their taxes have no representation.
I am reminded of the Boston Tea Party 250 years ago. No taxation without representation.
That this still exists in our current times is, I suppose, the fact that money speaks louder than the responsibilities we have entrusted upon our reps.
The residents are the stakeholders who should expect an equal consideration and do not.
One of these days...........
I can dream, and that is worth as much.
The city's priority should be the true stakeholders, and not those who stand to profit by compromising the process. Democracy is at risk.
A lecture a week ago at Cardiff Miracosta by a renowned professor at UCSD was all about the declining democracy's across the world.
Our current national leadership is contributing to this trend, and the trickle down to our very own town is nothing new.
No taxation without representation is fundamental to our nations ideal, or has been. It no longer is, if the authority in power ignores those who pay their salaries to listen to profiteers.
Stakeholders is a simple idea when profit making entities are secondary.
They are not. Our votes are our only recourse. Vote them out. Enough is enough.
A recent comment and a response to a city employee at a gas station about current leadership was not surprising.
ReplyDeleteBrenda took almost no time is office to piss off the residents, including staff.
This does not portend well for however long she may retain her position. Changing the designation of her job from planning director to community service director means little.
Her staff, while guarded, is none too happy. It is easy to see why. We should have hoped for better, and did not get it. The history of our planning dept. should have been enough to not repeat past failures.
It has not.
Stakeholders are the residents who are not profiting, and seek representation. Maybe it is time for a tea party of our own.
11:14, let's be clear: our City corrupted the process. The "stakeholders" can ask for the moon and the City can put up the hand.
ReplyDeleteCatherine and Tony let these "stakeholders" in and in fact very likely welcomed them in.
Both have close ties to developers and both think staff can do no wrong. And we all know about staff.
It will probably be mid May before we learn whether stakeholders (voters) have any formal say in the Housing Element update. The hearing on the three lawsuits is scheduled for April 30 and it takes a few weeks for a judge to issue an opinion. If he rules that a vote isn't required then the council can just adopt it.
ReplyDeleteIf they adopt something without a vote, and it could just as well be Measure T, they will be saying goodbye to their local political future.
DeleteAnd they will be sued, put under oath, and exposed for all the lies and corruption. The city has lost every citizen led lawsuit for a reason. About to be another one, except this time there will be criminal charges and there will be nothing civil about it.
DeleteSo if I'm reading the agenda item right, Wisneski explained the first secret meeting to Muir having just exited the second secret meeting that she, uh, forgot to mention?
ReplyDeleteShe fits right in with a long line of sneaky planning directors. Guess that's the only kind the city wants to hire. The problem is, folks find out - every time.
If the city really wants to sell us the "affordable housing" line why don't they invite the many families that have benefited from "bonus density" projects to speak publicly in a council meeting. Oh........................NEVER MIND.
ReplyDeletecabezon
Put the Section 18 housing next to Ecke's and Meyer's mansions.
DeleteYup, more market rate housing and we are still on the hook for the affordable crap.
DeleteSchool Board. Several of us have been pushing for months to get the Encinitas School board to discuss seriously term limits and we just asked for an action item to be added to the April agenda for the board to vote on them. Instead we have an agenda that includes a Discussion on term limits (again) and a prepared Resolution to Adopt campaign contribution limits of no more than $1000 except for personal funders or independent expenditures (aka union and PAC money). If you are an incumbent you barely have to spend anything to stay in office - it's a known fact. If you are a new challenger you need money to create name recognition and get people to know who you are. This is so clearly an attempt by the board to prevent challengers from earning a seat on the board. People have been writing to the board for months asking for them to consider term limits - again the incumbents are totally tone deaf to the community.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The real solution is to up zone all the lots around Meyers and Ecke in Encinitas Ranch.
ReplyDeletePut the Section 18 housing next to Ecke's and Meyer's mansions.
Again the City Council fails us and keeps an manager in place that works against the citizens quality of life.
I will be voting against all the Council-members supporting a higher density plan and this incompetent City Manager.
Howzabout up by Blakespear? Surely, there's some underutilized parcel next to her mother's house.
DeleteAnd Tony? He lives off the mother in law - there's got to be some prime infill there.
And don't forget Tasha, who lives in her uncle's house. Why not upzone next door, she thinks it's such a good idea?
I see an out of touch, freeloader theme here.
Mosca was appointed as Blakespear's lap dog and obedience school has paid off handsomely.
Mosca loves Encinitas and wants to put into effect a really effective process.
DeleteThe idea that anyone other than the citizens of Encinitas are "stakeholders" is truly bizarre and a clear indication that those running the government of Encinitas to not understand that their job is to try to represent the wishes and wants of all of us living here. This non-inclusive meeting is just another example of how this city is staffed by incompetent or co-opted knobs.
DeleteOur city of Encinitas is a COMPANY. It has employees that need to get paid. The money comes from our tax dollars, and it needs to increase with each year for the salaries and pensions for those most fortunate. We, the citizens, who live here, are only good for one thing. Like a hooker.
ReplyDeleteEncineedus. Need us to screw over.
ReplyDeleteWhy is Bruce Ehlers agreeing to this Housing Element plan? Did he flip to the other side? Did he get paid off by a developer? How sad!
ReplyDeleteHe has no balls. Can we start a recall petition for the Mayor?
DeleteHe is not agreeing, as he had no knowledge of these meetings. Nice, huh?
DeleteYES on recall, I'd sign it in a heartbeat.
The city council are facilitators for the developer interests. They see a generally disengaged electorate and minimal resistance from community activists. So selling out for 'benefits' is like throwing the cheese in front of the rat. Foregone conclusion of what happens next.
ReplyDeletePut some rat poison in that there cheese!
Deletetheir
Delete"Minimal resistance?" The defeat of Measure T took a concerted effort by residents citywide. My money says you sat back and watched, 7:53.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that T failed by a much wider margin than Prop A passed shows a large increase not only in voter engagement, but voter suspicion of how their electeds want them to vote.
Foregone is power going to the heads of those on the dais and the ever-widening divide between what the voters thought they were getting from their representatives and the council's action.
8:28 AM - Still there is a minimal number of activists, compared to the overall numbers of eligible voters. I am talking about the number of people that spear-headed this effort, not the effort in and of itself. You misunderstood the comment.
DeleteI think you misunderstood stood my response. There were a minimum of 200 so-called activists volunteering and getting out the no vote. You can call that minimal, but I don't. The number has grown immensely since Gus Vina declared he'd "identified 28 known activists" in Encinitas.
DeleteFactor in how readily the regular public agreed with the 200 and you have a more engaged or at least informed voting public than you might imagine.
I suppose numbers are what you make them.
DeleteOr what they are. You are clearly on the outside, surmising. So yeah, make them up to fit your story.
DeleteSounds like that describes your faulty analysis. Like the mirror, eh?
DeleteBruce Ehlers didn't even know about these meetings. That's how secret they were.
ReplyDeleteThis was to have been an open process, open to its members and the public. Was Bruce kept in the dark by renegade elements of the City Staff or did the Mayor know about this and join the conspiracy?
DeleteAnd that's how secret Catherine and Tony think it's ok to be.
DeleteThe mayor certainly knew. Word from those at the council meeting where this was revealed is that she didn't even flinch when it was mentioned. The only one who asked was Muir and who knows if that was just for show.
Deletethose of you still supporting Blakespear should write her and ask. Maybe that will help you decide if she's still acting in your best interests.
3 stories and minimize parking. Isn't that the definition of streetscape?
ReplyDeleteNo, "3 stories and minimize parking" is not the definition of streetscape. But you will continue to use that line.
DeleteBut it is the underlying goal.. and three stories? Nah. The developers, council, and L101 kook aid drinkers will be pushing for 5, minimum.
Delete10:57 and 2:54 are typical lies of the KLCC.
ReplyDeleteKLCC are consistent liars and ramblers. Fess up Lword and Crazy Eyed C.
The rest of us just need to rely on common sense. The Streetscape is greatly needed.
On the housing element issue, I along with my neighbors support nothing more than 2 stories and keep the zoning as is or minimize densification of Encinitas. We don't like Huntington Beach (Yuck!!!).
Go more towards Solana Beach and Del Mar and let the developers over develop Carlsbad, Oside, San Marcos and the others.
The most unsettling issue to me is the fact that the San Diego Desert is already overcrowded, has a water shortages, the beaches are packed and traffic is terrible. Why would any resident support more housing units that will just make the problems worse?
Let the new development happen in area with more water and more open space to develop, say up north. In my opinion, we are overfull and I will vote against any Councilmember that supports Encinitas densifying and looking more like Huntington Beach.
You should also vote against any candidate for Council or Mayor who supports heights exceeding 30 feet. Now who will oppose the 3 who are up for re-election in November?
DeleteI agree with 6:01, but your reasoning is faulty.
DeleteThe San Dieguito Water District consumes 20% less water than it did ten years ago with a smaller population.
Two reasons: Displacement of potable water with recycled, and conversion of thirsty agricultural operations to residential.
Now more than ever, we need our politics to be rooted in truth and facts. You can check for yourself: Table 5, page 62, SDWD annual financial statement, under public records on their web site.
Reason #3 - Incentives to convert thirsty lawns to succulents and toilet replacements. But the next drought won't be as easy as the low-hanging fruit has been picked.
Delete6:01 is Charlie Marvin. He's on a one-man mission to turn Leucadia into Orange County. Sorry, Charlie. Next time try making your points without the tired and idiotic references to two women who don't even post here. Put down the bottle, take a walk, clear your head, and try again. Or don't.
DeleteI'm sick of the put downs towards women on this blog, the name calling is disgusting. And if it IS Marvin, I've got a few choice words to say about your ex wife who has insulted me on many occasions. And who has done nothing for this city except be the village idiot.
DeleteWhatever 10:44am- You finally woke up.
DeleteWell its time for your Vilium and Prozac and back to bed for ya.
Lword your a sad joke and the City should notice your property again for illegal unit with no on site parking for any cars. Your neighbors all hate you for the stink and parked cars you bring to the hood.
1:47- Beat it old hag. Go to the other old hags facebook page - Encinitas Votes. This blog is for people with brains.
DeleteFrom what we all hear, Marvin's ex has some choice words for the dude and equally choice stories to tell about him.
Delete10:22PM took the bait.
DeleteThe two agricultural properties in front of the Ecke/Meyer and Chris Calkins mansions on the south side of Leucadia Blvd. by the golf course would make ideal parcels for upzoning. Calkins is the lawyer and CEO of Carltas, the Ecke investment company. He has said, confirmed by City Attorney Glenn Sabine, that the “agricultural zoning in perpetuity” under the Encinitas Ranch Specific Plan expired with the Development Agreement. Ecke/Meyer and Calkins each own one of the two parcels, which pay reduced property taxes under the Williamson Act.
ReplyDeleteThe parcels are ripe for upzoning and affordable housing. Both are essentially undeveloped and on major transportation corridors. Perfect for HCD. Upzoning both would only take a vote of the public, exactly the same as all the properties being considered. Allowing increases in height to 3 -5 stories on the two properties would increase the affordable housing yield, help reduce our RHNA requirements, and generate needed revenue for the city to pay our huge pension obligations.
It doesn’t get any better than this. Would Tasha and Joe go along with this? Oops, forgot about campaign contributions and unadvertised stakeholder meetings.
Good Find on the sites. I am sure that common decency would cause the council members to disclose or deny outside influences if they were only asked during the public comments at the next Council meeting. :-)
DeleteDon’t the Eckes own those parcels?
DeleteIf so, they can choose to not develop them, and continue living in their nice hilltop compound until they want to move. Then they can develop and turn another huge profit on their way out of town.
Is that really what you want—a big fat gift to the Ecke clan?
Why yes, anything to get them out of here - don't you agree??
DeleteThose properties are owned and have been for decades; you cannot use imminent-domain to take things from people just because you are envious.
DeleteEminent domain wasn't mentioned. The city could still upzone to satisfy HCD. The city is running out of undeveloped land,so development is inevitable at some point in the future.
DeleteAgree. put the affordable housing next to the ecke and Meyers property. makes sense. They all suck anyways.
DeleteAnyone know what NCTD will be doing at the railroad crossing at Leucadia blvd?? I called the city and those idiots don't know anything about the crossing being closed for 12 hours a day for one week.....
ReplyDeleteHey 11:07 AM dummy (since name calling is necessary), google it and you will find it.
DeleteCity employee are you?? NOOOOO, you will tell me as I pay your bloated fat carcass. And equally reprehensible pension.
DeleteWhat are they doing???
NOOOOO (I had to count the O's), I'm not a City employee. But I'd be happy to take your money. Bloated? Fat? You're good at name calling.
DeleteLike I mentioned, google it you dumb motherfucker (since name calling is apparently requisite). I found it. Twice.
Dr. Lorri posted all of the information on Encinitas Votes. You can find out there. I'd do it for you, but I just don't feel like it.
ReplyDeleteWho the hell cares about Lorri (Quack). Not I.
DeleteOh thats right. We all should know she was at woodstock and marched with MLK.....
ReplyDeleteBFD.
MLK actually was and still is a big deal, 10:24. What have you done to your credit?
DeleteLet me guess: tried bringing others down to your level by belittling them. We know your type. It's called "loser."
MKL was a big deal. Lorri is not.
ReplyDeleteI am living my life to better the world, I hope you do too.
XOXO
Deciding who is a big deal and who isn't and mocking those you think don't fit your categories do not make you someone bettering the world. They make you a loser.
DeleteMKL?! That Mary Kay Letourneau was a horrible person.
DeleteWhat do you expect from 6:35? Lol.
Delete10:23pm Do the Freedom Riders mean anything to you?
ReplyDeleteRisking their lives to register black votes in the South in the early 60's was dangerous and took more courage than you could ever imagine.
Mississippi Burning was the reality of the times. Jim Crow ruled the day. It took courage to defy the inhumanity of southern white rule.
Dr Lorrie deserves all of our respect for what she when it could have cost her her life.
You have no conscience if you cannot feel something. She deserves all of our respect, even yours.
I didn't realize Prop A was no longer a consideration. wtf.
ReplyDeleteThe consultants must not have gotten the limits we set. More likely, staff is pulling the same crap as before and getting way with it again.
Council, you are in the same boat. You have enabled the process to repeat itself. History is something we are supposed to learn from.
Mudville is here.