Wednesday, April 4, 2018

City Council meeting open thread

Special meeting on housing update.

Please use the comments to record your observations.

32 comments:

  1. Wow! It was revealed that the city staff held a Housing Element Update meeting that wasn't noticed and which excluded the public. It was only for "stakeholders." These stakeholders included Chelsea Investment, Baldwin & Sons, BIA, Shea Homes, Keith Harrison, and others.

    When Director Wisneski was asked to explain, she lied and said the meeting was noticed and members of the public were there. A man jumped up and contradicted her. He said he accidentally stumbled into the meeting and no other members of the public were there. A long silence ensued. No one contradicted the speaker, and Mayor Blakespear quickly went on to the next part of the meeting.

    Wisneski has some explaining to do.

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    1. This is not Wisneski's first stumble. She has unfortunately slipped right in with the worst of the worst st Ciy Hall.

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    2. "at City Hall," danged auto correct.

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    3. What is it about the Planning Department??

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    4. I dunno, but The Wiz is going for a record of the most number of eggs on her face in the shortest amount of time.

      She lies too easily.

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    5. That’s it for me. The HEU is going to be another bunch of lies and developers freebies. If they feel the need to to meet behind closed doors and feel the residents are not the stakeholders then Fukem. If the state gets involved we will be better off then whatever these sneaky campaign whores and their pimps come up with. Some people would probably end up with criminal and civil legal troubles. If the city was really worried about the state then they would be working with residents and telling the developers to take what we give them. Instead, they meet behind closed doors to conspire to defraud the residents. Voting no no matter what they come up with and won’t be voting for a single incumbent. Staff gave themselves, and firemen, a silly pension. Now they want us to give up our setbacks, density, parking, and building heights to pay for their lush pensions.

      Here is what sucks even more. If council and staff can’t deliver for their developer handlers they have a built in plan b. Instead of giving away our zoning rights they will just give them our tax dollars approving a stupid settlement. I mean, we know the cities lawyer is very competent at giving the other side our money.

      What will be the scare tactic this time? I”m betting it’s the threat of Increasing taxes and more lawsuits.

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    6. It is perfectly acceptable for staff to meet with interested parties. Staff should be meeting with developers, Quail Gardens people, whomever. There is no requirement to notice informative meetings unless a decision making body is involved. The problem is staff's mindset. Developers and property owners will dictate exactly what they want, and staff will slip that text into documents that city council votes on. The developers know that last minute rushed changes are easy to slip in. Staff does not advocate for the other side. In essence, staff becomes a decision making body when that is not their role.

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    7. Good point on that not being staff's role. However, given the extreme level of resident distrust of the city and the rejection of Measure T based largely on the developer gifts it contained, it just plain looked bad not to notice such a meeting.

      That Wisneski hasn't yet cottoned on to the fact that residents are on high alert about the city and, on top of that, lies in public, is unbelievable and unacceptable.

      If Karen can't get Wisneski under control in a hurry, then both need to go.

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    8. Isn't most of staff gone already?

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  2. Encinitas Ranch and Quail Gardens residents out in force to oppose 190 units on parcel L-7, in addition to the Dramm & Echter site.

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    1. NIMBYs out in force.

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    2. Recall, they supported Prop T, strongly. Once they got what they wanted they did not give a damn about any other part of town. Karma.

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    3. Bingo, 9:23. What goes around, comes around.

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    4. They shoulda voted for Prop T when they had the chance.

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    5. The Quail Gardens people came in large numbers to council meetings to support the plan that became Prop T, even when everyone else was saying slow down and try something different. Would have to check the voting results to know for sure, but it would seem they voted for Prop T. The rest of the city stopped Prop T.

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    6. Not one person came out opposing the Dramm and Echter site. In fact, they appear to have quite a bit of support. I actually think the agrihood is a really good concept that might fit into our community. God knows what these other developers are cooking up for the other sites.

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    7. They can only cook them up if Blakespear lets them.

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    8. 9:10 PM Stocks trying to make a come-back to be the developer's stooge and yes-man.

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  3. Nothing more painful than watching Kranz trying to make sense.


    Annnnd there it is! Word is Kranz worked behind the scenes to pull L7. What'$ in it for him?

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  4. Horvath "doesn't mind sending more than 1,600 units to HCD." Does HCD require more than 1,600? This idiotic council pushes for extra units = failed next vote.

    It's amazing, they simply cannot learn.

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    1. She was pro “T” before she ran, don’t know why she was elected, she wasn't shy about it. I guess people bought the whole, just a mom trying to make the neighborhood better for the kids bit. That is how she approached me. We had a short talk about the HEU but was clearly flustered when I asked the hard questions. Why was the granny flat experiment more restrictive than state requirements while developers got all the handouts? Defaults to fear of being sued. Not how I want my city rep. to lead.

      She is firmly in the under-funded pension staff pockets AND the developers fetch- n -step lackey. She is doing g so good that they are promoting her after only a year.

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    2. The 1600 units was a suggestion. It is still a little sketchy on why the council decided not to reduce it to 1400 hundred.

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    3. Last night Catherine wanted 1,900.

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    4. HCD will tell us how many we need.

      My guess is that the number isn't going down.

      My guess is that the number will be in addition to the new numbers that the state is putting out.

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    5. My guess is the number will be whatever Marco tells Catherine it is.

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  5. Simple.

    I'm voting no. What a waste of time. Losers selling out our town. The manager needs to be fired.

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  6. 11:03- Do we get to vote on all of this? I was under the impression that the City was going to go with whatever happened last night. I wasn't there, so just asking. If you all remember, Kranz was one of the first people for T. The first meeting was at his house. What changed someone askes? Just check out his new duds, haircut, friends, etc. He got a trip to Israel but the Leichtag Foundation, got builders interested in him, etc. No surprise to me. He is very insecure and his councnil position makes him feel important. Reminds me of Dalager.

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    1. Yes, whatever goes to the state to confirm that state mandates are met, will be on the November election ballot.

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    2. Cha-ching Tony $$$$$

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  7. Pages 11-13 show the developer wish list from their secret "stakeholder" - oops, "unadvertised" meeting (according to Wisneski): http://encinitas.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=1715&meta_id=85149

    These are Measure T all over again and not "state mandates," per both the HCD consultant and outside attorney. If these developer gifts find their way into the November Measure X vote, the city will have bought itself another failed vote.

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  8. The latest news is that the mayor of Solana Beach has suddenly resigned. Is it a good idea for Encinitas to be next?

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    1. What happened? Apparently two CC members have left. One announced at a meeting, the other abruptly. Can't be good.

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