The diverse traditions of five different countries will be explored at Passport to Dance, with performances by companies representing Spain, China, Indonesia, Ireland and the United States. Presented by Encinitas Friends of the Arts (EFA) the event takes place on Saturday, May 11, 7-9:30 p.m., at the Encinitas Community Center, 1140 Oakcrest Park Drive, Encinitas, 92024. In keeping with EFA’s mission to celebrate diversity through arts and culture, the event will foster an appreciation and fresh awareness of ancient and modern traditions while raising funds for much needed arts programs in the city.What the heck did we go $10 million into debt for at Pacific View?
Friday, May 10, 2019
After being given a $10 million taxpayer-funded, debt-financed facility, Encinitas Friends of the Arts hosts event in old Senior Center
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Pacific View may be unsuitable for activities as of yet. It appears the funding is inadequate to bring it up to speed for use. Too bad, as I think the provision was that the city could sell it in 10 years if it has gone nowhere. That clock is ticking down now.
ReplyDeletethank bigshot bigmouth tony for thinking he was moving and shaking when he pushed through that fiasco.
DeleteWhat a waste of taxpayer money! Maybe, it should be used for homeless or affordable housing - at least then we can say we're doing something with it.
ReplyDeleteNew city hall / arts center at Pacific View, with construction funded by the sale of the current city hall site.
ReplyDeleteCity can control what gets built on the current city hall site by hosting a competitive bid process that includes plan proposals and bid requirements (e.g. must not block library views, must include x spaces of public parking for downtown and train, must include public terraces, etc).
Pacific View can also include extra public parking underneath for downtown visitors. City Hall and arts center uses can share spaces. An arts performance space can double as council chambers. Daytime city hall conference rooms can double as gallery space for evening events.
Pac View is in what's about a 90% residential neighborhood. City Hall there would create way too much traffic. That was even a concern for the arts and ecology center that's supposed to be under way.
DeleteNot as much traffic as an elementary school, which it was for many many years.
DeleteNo, much more traffic than Pac View when it was a school. And the current City Hall has a huge parking lot at two levels. At the Pac View site, that would have to be underground less than a block from the ocean. Plus, MacPherson owns property on the alley behind the school. He would challenge and sue. The bottom line is the site wouldn't work for City Hall.
DeleteNo problems, brah.
DeleteCity Hall has way less traffic than a school. Take a ride down to PEC any day at drop off or pickup time and you’ll see. No traffic problem at all.
As for the below grade parking, take another ride about a 1/2 mile south of PacView on the bluffs. Marvel at the parking under the big condo buildings on Sealane Dr. Those have been there for decades with no problems.
Lawsuits? Broseph, lawsuits are standard these days. You can’t mow your lawn without going to court. It’s normal—part of the process. These nimby suits always lose (see: desert rose).
Hahaha anyone who defends Desert Rose is sitting opposite your average resident. That project comes courtesy of the usual sleight of hand by "staff" and defended oh so predictably by the Mayor's puppet master.
DeleteAnd the law.
DeleteYou forgot to mention, it was found to be legal.
So I guess the staff and council who approved were right, and you were wrong.
Similar to PacView, eh?
Legal if you use "staff's" massaging of the details and applaud their hiding information. SOP at city hall. Works out nicely for a gullible council and developers making campaign donations. Hand in glove.
DeleteIf that's what you call "proved right," guess you win.
When your kid loses a game, do you teach them to lose gracefully and take it as a learning experience, or do you blame the refs and teach them to be a victim?
DeleteNever mind.
We already know.
This is no game or teaching moment, 11:21. We're talking our taxpayer-funded employees fixing the facts to help out yet another developer.
DeleteAre you ok with that? Never mind. We already know.
7:58 I lived in the Pac View neighborhood for more than 20 years. My kids went to school there. City Hall has far more traffic than Pac View ever had. The site is not suitable for City Hall, which is why it hasn't been considered by serious, knowledgeable people. It wasn't even considered for a theater/arts center like the one Carlsbad has at the Dove library.
Deleteyes, the quality of work provided by City workers will improve if given an ocean view... oh wait, they already have an ocean view. But if the City can offer employees closer access to the water, they could hire and retain a higher level of talent. City hall should indeed be sold - that is a good idea. But put the new hall on El Camino Real.
ReplyDeleteI agree in principle, but city hall location is also about convenient location for the most citizens.
DeletePlus, the city doesn’t own a suitable property on ECR, and the funding model above wouldn’t work if they had to buy one.
It’s basically consolidation of two assets into one to fund improvements.
Vast majority of residents live E of I-5. ECR is more convenient to many more residents than the current City Hall location. And really, any point of this town is 15 minutes from any other point so the convenience argument is weak. Of course, our council members never venture to ECR, which is why they keep sticking inane businesses like the new drive-thru Starbucks there.
DeleteI remember one time Kathleen Lindemann stated that she would personally donate a large amount of money to PV as a donation if the city purchased the property. I bet she didn't donate anything. Come on Kathleen prove me wrong and tell all the money you've donated to this site (blah,blah, blah). Because it sure doesn't look like public donations are anywhere near where people said that they would be at...
ReplyDeleteShaddup, Mikey.
DeleteTen million dollars for finger painting classes taught by sandal wearing, gray stringy haired burnouts that still live in '60's.
ReplyDeleteFools.........
Sell the property......stop being stupid
As opposed to people like you....smug,preppy,money worshiping d-bags.
Delete10:16- You are intolerant!!
Delete10:16 must be one of the sandal wearing, gray stringy haired burnouts that still live in the '60's
DeleteSell the property and use the money to fix the deadly roads, or pay off the lawsuites from all those cases.
ReplyDeleteTrolls abound here, [Mikey? who has always been a tool] who would prefer the PV site to become another market rate bonanza while degrading our community even further with density infill.
ReplyDeleteIt is a good thing this property did not fall into their greedy hands. That we, the taxpayers, had to pony up more than we should is a fact.
If we had had real reps defending us, that is the taxpayers, we would have gone after Tim Baird with all we could have when purchasing this gem, and it is a gem.
The trolls that post here demanding it be sold off, are nothing but complete POS, and are willing puppets of developers that are salivating over the millions they could make by building market rate McMansions.
Thanks to those that are positively contributing to saving this from being another profit seeking opportunity.
Greed has no bounds with the well known developers we have around here. Their names do not have to be pointed out.
I hope we can count on our city to always save this from becoming another infill opportunity, no matter how much time it takes to become something we can be proud of.
In perpetuity means nothing, as we have all witnessed all too often with other such designated properties.
This is one site that should have an airtight designation of preservation to never be developed into housing.
Considering how are reps are so easily compromised, nothing, sadly, can be counted on coming from any of them.
A new majority next year is the only hope for this and way too many other issues to truly represent the ideals that this community stands for. Currently we are not represented. Anyone who points to the last election with not a real choice has nothing to stand on.
Next time, hopes for a clear choice is all we have. The current office holders need to go. Without a new majority, nothing will change.
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ReplyDeleteComplete rambling shit as always from you.
The fact is the City should not be in the YMCA business on arts and crafts. Leave those fun services to the boys and girls clubs and YMCA and sell the excess property.
Mega lawsuits will need to be paid off for our killing roads. Own it.