A section of bluff collapsed in Encinitas Sunday night but no injuries were reported, a sheriff’s official said.
The collapse was reported around 8:30 p.m. An hour after the incident, the department said it still was light on details other than the area had already been cleared and was somewhere near Neptune Avenue, which runs the length of the beach.
Monday, September 2, 2019
Another bluff collapse in Leucadia
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The lifeguards need to enforce a buffer zone away from the bluff base. They claimed to have warned beach goers in the past of the hazards, but if you go down to the beach right now, you'll see people very close to the base of the bluffs. It is apparent that they do not do much in regards to keeping people a safe distance from the bluffs. Signs need to be posted along the beach warning people of the hazards or some other pro-active approach. We do not need another tragedy.
ReplyDeleteIn your world the lifeguard should be going up and down the beach telling people not to camp out at the base of the cliffs. Sooo, who would be watching the swimmers?
DeleteOhhh...I know. The sharks could watch the swimmers.
Problem solved.
I’m fine with posted signs, but we don’t need nannies.
ReplyDeleteWe have to stop this idea that government can or should make us all safe. As long as your personal decisions are not likely to put anyone else at risk, then have at it. Want to climb the walls of Yosemite? Fine. Skydiving? Your risk; your call. Sitting under the bluffs is no different.
Yea, ignore risks and the minimal effort to minimize it.
DeleteThe lifeguards' job is to protect and save lives. Part of that is alerting beachgoers to risks. For example, rips, big surf, stingrays, sharks and collapsing bluffs.
ReplyDeleteMost people who sit at the base of the bluff are unaware of the risk. It's the lifeguards' job to warn them.
Oh please. Who doesn’t know that bluffs can erode and collapse? The evidence is everywhere. Walk the beach and you’ll see rubble piles and slide scars missing plants. And if you can’t figure out why seawalls exist, then there is no hope for you.
DeleteThe truth is, everyone with an IQ above room temperature knows there is a risk. But they also know it’s unlikely to happen right here, today, while I’m under it. And they are right most of the time.
Take responsibility for your own safety.
That's people who live here and are familiar with the beaches, the bluffs and the history. At this time of year, most people on the beaches are visitors, many from out of state.
DeleteYou, however, can continue to act like an arrogant, condescending know-it-all.
The three people killed recently had local ties, so there goes your argument.
DeleteKey to your post, 4:54: "local ties." They weren't people who "walk the beach" frequently and have monitored the bluffs.
DeleteWhat kind of mindless lunatic would be against lifeguards warning people about the risk of the bluff collapsing? Apparently, you, 4:54.
Should the lifeguards not warn beachgoers about an unusual number of stingrays in the water?
Key to your post: “unusual number of stingrays.”
DeleteUnusual.
There is no predictable or unusual risk of bluff collapse. It’s the same today as it will be every day.
Lifeguards should be focused on watching swimmers and surfers, and sure, notifying people of unusual hazards.
They don’t warn people that an asteroid may hit the Pacific today resulting in a 500ft high tsunami—even though one might.
Post signs about the bluffs and leave us alone.
Wrong, 5:47. There is a greater danger of bluff collapses in the winter after heavy rains or any other time of the year when residents above overwater, saturate the soil and make it extra heavy.
DeleteThere's also a greater danger where the bluffs are vertical or past vertical, with the top stretching out farther than the toe. That's usually due to erosion on the face. In many cases, it's due to the whitewater smashing into the toe at high tides and big surf, hollowing out the base and leaving little or nothing to support the weight above.
There's also greater danger where there are thick areas of ice plant succulent on the edge of the bluff and hanging over it. That stuff is very heavy because it holds a lot of water.
Lifeguards who warn beachgoers about bluff collapses are public safety workers doing their job.
If there were a sexual predator known to be in your neighborhood, would you want the sheriff's deputies to warn you or to keep quiet about it?
The bluff issue has nothing to do with your fears of a nanny state. It's about simple public safety.
Good luck on your crusade to save everyone from themselves.
DeleteLifeguard: "There is a greater danger of bluff collapses in the winter after heavy rains or. . ."
DeleteMe: "I'm bored. Are we done yet?"
Over and out, you numbskull. You never had a point in the first place, and the more you posted the more evident that became.
DeleteLifeguards seem to have plenty of extra time/staff to stalk and harass women on off the beach in their govt. issued vehicles so I would imagine they have time to spread the word about unstable bluffs to visitors. Do something useful with our tax dollars, thank you
ReplyDeleteSomebody's girlfriend left him for a lifeguard.
DeleteSpeaking of signs, people drive too fast. Signs should be posted telling people how fast they can drive on a given street. Oh wait.
ReplyDeleteAnd your point is why waste the effort??? You must be an Einstein in reverse social planning.
DeleteNowhere near Neptune. The UT finally just corrected the story. The collapse was near Pipes (the break, not the restaurant) in Cardiff.
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