A well-placed source tells Encinitas Undercover that County attorney and reserve deputy sheriff Bryan Ziegler will run for city council a second time.
We weren't impressed by Ziegler's 2012 run, where he showed himself to be badly misinformed about pensions, and came in a distant 7th place. But both the candidate and the electoral landscape have changed. After his 2012 defeat, Ziegler publicly campaigned for Prop A (as did Julie Graboi, making Catherine Blakespear the only council candidate who opposed the public's right to vote on upzoning), giving him connections to an important grassroots group. He is also presumably better-informed and a more experienced candidate now. More importantly, Ziegler lacked organizational support in 2012. This year he is expected to win the endorsement and support of Republican and business-oriented groups and community leaders, making him a formidable candidate.
We expect Graboi, Blakespear, and Ziegler to be the only three serious candidates for the open council seat... but don't be surprised if a few yahoos jump in. We had nine candidates last time, one of whom didn't even show up to the candidate forums.
Ziegler is a joke another one issue candidate.Prop A is a done deal get over it.
ReplyDeleteEvery time EU claims an inner sanctum source, its clear to staff that its Barth he or she is speaking to. She went out of her way to double-up with Lisa today to warn Tony and others what they can and cannot list in their ballot statements.
DeleteBarth has now passed Aspell and Cameron as worst Mayor in 28 years. And that isn't easy.
Au contraire.
ReplyDeleteA candidate's position on Prop A gives us important insights into a candidate's thinking on who should make important decisions about our community: the people, or staff and politicians.
Where can I find more on Blakespear's opposition to Prop A. The only hits on Google come back to this blog. I can find no editorial, no news coverage, no position paper, no city council speaker record--nada.
ReplyDeleteNot suggesting she didn't oppose Prop A, but I've seen plenty of assertive statements made here that are questionable at best. I'd like a little more.
I hope there is more to it than "she didn't campaign for it." If that's the standard, then there are thousands of us who voted for it caught in the net of your purity test.
Ziegler is part of the pension problem you so often speak about ,he is a republican and more than likely pro growth.Campaigning from somthing means very little to me.There are many issues,like steaming playground equipment for example.
ReplyDelete9:40 You can give up on the steaming playground issue if you think that is going to hurt Julie Graboi's chances of getting a seat on the council. She has contributed so much to this community on behalf of the citizens that stand out.
DeleteAs far as cleaning up the playgrounds, even to the point of steam cleaning them, is an excellent idea. Try it in your own house some time and you'll be surprised at how much dirt you will find. But then, some don't mind living in dirt.
Blakespeare has had a website up since May. No other Candidate even has a site up, and we're in August. Just saying....
DeleteI heard it from her own lips, and I think she was a little shocked that those of us that did hear this were disgusted. Of course, you'll have to take my word for it, but I'm not lying.
ReplyDelete-Mary Fleener
I don't recall seeing Catherine's name on any Prop. A literature. And, I don't recall her campaigning for much of anything until Coral Tree. I'll go with Julie who has put her name on the line many times. The fact that when someone Googles Catherine and cannot find anything on her stance on Prop. A , might suggest she took no stance. And even if she did, her best friends right now are Barth and Shaffer. I'll pass if just for that reason.
ReplyDeleteWhen I met with Catherine and a few others for breakfast, we asked her what she thought about the ERAC committee. She said she was on it. Turns out she thought we meant GPAC. So she seemed to be in the dark about ERAC. I think she means well, but don't think she's as versed with local issues as Julie is. I like a candidate that doesn't have to ask you how YOU feel about an issue just to get on your good side, but rather someone who states their positions clearly. Take it or leave it or lets work together to make it better. The rub of course is what's better for a developer isn't always what's best for the neighborhood. But when it is, it's great.
ReplyDeleteI, like Mary, have personally heard what her stance was on Prop A. She did vote for it, she did not vote against it. That tells me she either remained uninformed about such a crucial issue to us all or that she had already bought into the wrangling that the council majority pulled when they all betrayed this community by aligning against it and lying on campaign literature about just what Prop A would do and what it wouldn't do. She obviously had and has the mental acuity to decipher the truth from the lies and chose to remain uncommitted on Prop A. That alone was a serious mistake if she was intending to run for council. Knowing the difference between GPAC and ERAC was another shortcoming on her part.
ReplyDeleteOur informed citizenry knows there is a troubling lack of commitment there to some degree and it does present legitimate concerns of whether she would be another seat filler for the majority that we have seen before.
Bryan came off as an opportunist the last time to spread his name around and nothing else and failed to show up when it could have made a difference. Completely forgettable then and here he comes again back for more. Perhaps his purpose is to divide the vote in any small minded way he can. Duly unimpressed then and now.
Julie on the other hand has been on the mark and when the public council debates happen all will become clear. In the meantime, those trying to bait her with certain positions will just have to attend the debates for themselves if they are so interested which if they were they would already know where she stands
on multiple issues.
Whoops I meant to say she did not vote against it nor vote for it. My bad.
ReplyDelete10:44, if you're trying to be unclear, you're succeeding. Prop A was the only issue on the ballot. If Blakespear didn't vote for it or against it, that means she didn't vote. If that's the case, say so!
DeleteIt's Blakespear herself who made this confusing. She has clearly been trying out different responses with voters, thus the conflicting stories.
DeleteWe're getting conflicting reports on Blakespear's vote on Prop A.
ReplyDeleteSome people have heard her personally state that she voted against it, while it seems others have heard that she did not vote at all.
A public records request to the registrar would clarify whether she voted in the special election in which Prop A was the only issue on the ballot.
So, you stand by this?
Delete". . . making Catherine Blakespear the only council candidate who opposed the public's right to vote on upzoning"
That very strong assertion of fact seems at odds with your 10:52 characterization.
Whether or not she actually voted, it's quite clear from her conversations with a number of residents that she was opposed to Prop A. Which is only natural, of course, as her political mentors Barth, Kranz, and Shaffer all vocally opposed Prop A.
DeleteIt's possible for both statements to be true, that she opposed Prop A but didn't bother to vote. Perhaps she omitted the second part when speaking to people early on because she didn't want to look so disinterested in city issues that she wouldn't bother to vote. Now it looks like opposing Prop A might be a bigger liability than not voting.
We look forward to Blakespear correcting the record. Perhaps someone will ask about it at the Cardiff candidate forum.
EU said: "A candidate's position on Prop A gives us important insights into a candidate's thinking. . ."
DeleteAh, so it's an important issue, but not important enough to accurately characterize a candidate's position, eh EU?
So far, your evidence to support your assertion is: (1.) third hand hearsay about private conversations, and (2.) guilt by association.
wow.
just.
wow.
"We look forward to Blakespear correcting the record."
DeleteIf you are unclear about her position, then perhaps you shouldn't be making public declarations about what that position is.
Nope. I am quite clear about her position that she was against Prop A, whether or not she bothered to vote. Multiple sources heard the same thing on multiple occasions.
Delete12:49. This is a blog, not a news bureau. Deal with it.
DeleteWell, at least you've clarified for the audience where your journalistic and ethical standards are.
DeleteEven news bureaus cite multiple sources.
Delete"Hearsay" is disqualified from criminal trials, not news stories, especially when corroborated.
1:13 I have no problem clarifying what I expect from a blog.
DeleteThis blog is the best source of information about what is really going on in Encinitas, but I know what I am looking at. I'll take all of its imperfections.
News bureaus do not cite multiple sources posted anonymously to a blog with no confirmation of identity, or vetting of motives.
DeleteYou know why?
Because that standard yields garbage.
I'm not using multiple sources posted anonymously to a blog.
DeleteI'm using real life sources who I choose to keep confidential, as often do news bureaus.
You know why?
Because some blogs have standards.
Real life sources, you say. People you personally know and trust.
DeleteFascinating that this explanation wasn't offered earlier in the thread.
Almost as if you just thought of it. How convenient that it can't be validated.
Fascinating indeed.
DeleteAlmost as if whenever I have cited "sources" on this blog over the years, it has NEVER refered to anonymous blog comments.
Jeez. Some people are so cynical.
2:30 You probably look at this blog because you find it interesting and /or useful. Despite various types of incursions and diversions into the general flow of discourse, this blog still manages to keep sufficient credibility that keeps you, me, and others reading.
DeleteAnd that has a lot to do with how it is led and managed by EU.
Guys, I hate to see it, but none of this matters that much. All prop. A folks are going Julie, we would expect. Some Lisa folks and others are going Blakespeare. In other words, a lot of personal history, friendships, politics, personal animosity goes into for those of us on this board who are "In the know".
DeleteThe real question is, how will your friends and neighbors vote, if they even vote at all. That's always the question, how well can the candidates get their name and message out there in the next 3 months.
Because having gone door to door several times, I can tell you most people A.) don't know about the city council race and b.) don't care.
So right now it's starting out a zero, but Blakespeare's already out front by virtue of the fact she has a website and Lisa's campaign machine behind her. We can argue all day long about why Lisa won, but she was highly organized and aggressive. So much so, she pulled Tony in with her.
So if Julie wants to get in, she better put the pedal to medal for 3 straight months...
-MGJ
Agreed. You have to sacrifice a LOT!
Delete12:49 - Fleener's comments were first-hand, not third-hand hearsay. Too bad her post makes your claim moot.
DeleteOh great another govt employee in charge of the purses strings....And with the new Enc employee contract talks on the horizon we can expect to be shafted again.
ReplyDeleteLoser Leucadian is smiling somewhere....
Brian Ziegler works for the county is a pers qualified employ your worst nightmare . Do your home work please.
ReplyDeleteIndeed!
DeleteRight, but doesn't someone have to work for the county handling the law? That's a pretty lame reason to dq the guy....
DeleteSan Diego mayor Kevin Faulkner is proposing that SD city employees be paid extra money for thinking of ways to SAVE money. He believes that the city employees can save the city "several hundreds of thousands of dollars". Several hundreds of thousands on a budget that is several billion is like me spitting into the ocean...
ReplyDeleteIsn't saving money for the city part of every employees job description anyway??
Here in good 'ol Mayberry by the Sea we would probably hire some consultants to find ways to save money....
Idiots, everywhere you go there are idiots.
3:49 When I heard that on the news, I thought what a stupid idea it was. Here they want to try and save money, but will GIVE it away to the braniac(s) who come up with ways to save. How lame can this be!
DeleteGive me the money, then I might tell you the answer (Hint, it will be dark and hot at work)
Delete-MGJ
Finding new ways to bilk the system....
DeleteMy question to the candidates is this: Are you now or have you ever hired an undocumented or illegal alien ??
ReplyDeleteAnd why does this matter, because for most people, that's a yes....Undocumented's are and have been part of our economic structure for years, in case you haven't noticed...
Deletemy question is why do the illegals need to be made legal citizens. Why can't they remain illegal as they currently exist. I see making them legal just gets our government further in debt, more slackers, and less workers. Leave it be. otherwise we will just put all the current illegals on welfare and we will need to import more illegals for the low labor positions that the American entitled poor do not have to do to survive.
DeleteOur Country is now fat and complacent.
3 years ago the AP, Reuters, USA Today, NY TImes and the Huffpost came out and said they would no longer use the terms illegal immigrant and would call the lawbreakers "undocumented" in a propaganda move to shape public. Since June of this year these propagandist news stations have called the illegals "refugees" -
DeleteTonight on CNN Anderson Cooper gave copius airtime allowing the muslim jihadists to spread their message of hate in blaming Israel- when the facts are Hamas is a muslim extremist terrorist political ideology that promotes genocide, butchery and murder in the name of Islam- just as ISIS that is beheading christians, BOKO haram that kidnaps christian girls and the Ansar Alsharia that murdered our US Ambassador in Libya-
Oh I get it. You must be talking about those lazy, disease infested Irish I was reading about. It's in all the papers. They are all coming here to leach off our society. They are all violent and will destroy our culture. (sorry, wrong century, same shit.)
DeleteCabezon
I love that the Tea Party foams at the mouth about "invasion," when illegal border crossings are less than half their historic highs during the _________ administration (guess).
DeleteAlso, they howl in horror at any mention of a difficult and lengthy path to citizenship. We'll answer this: why does Faux News never question the existing amnesty that gives Cubans (often crossing the Mexican border), an automatic Green Card, Legal Permanant Resident status, full access to welfare and benefits, and a path to citizenship after just 365 days?
Answer: Those brown people are okay, because they reliably vote Republican in a major swing state.
Hipocracy much?
I meant to include this link to the border crossing stats with the 7:02 post: http://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/U.S.%20Border%20Patrol%20Fiscal%20Year%20Apprehension%20Statistics%201960-2013.pdf
Delete3:49 if you so smart, why don't you run?
ReplyDeleteHow much is the city paying you to sit at your computer and watch porn all day??
DeleteAt least I have a job!
DeleteBlakespear's only on the record to save the Coral Farm.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that yahoo Dalager can run again - he needs a dishwasher.
ReplyDeleteSatire...
DeleteThere is already a similar one running. Ever hear of Dalakranz?
ReplyDeleteOff topic
ReplyDeleteRe: coastal comps 1/4 acre in Cardiff corner of Newcastle and Aberdeen is said to have been sold for 4 and 1/2 million ,maybe P V is not such a bad deal.W C maybe your wrong again . Just say' en
You talking about the parcel that has Besta-Wan Pizza in addition to two other buildings including a two-story mixed-use retail and residential building?
DeleteYou do understand the difference between raw land value and buildings, no?
Just sayin'.
So the city bought that property ?? It was listed for $3.2M but someone paid $4.5M?? Gotta be that crack investment team of Krsnz, Shaffer and Barth!
DeleteUm, did anybody say anything about the City buying the property? Where did that come from?
DeleteThe Zillow site says:
07/04/14
Pending sale
$3,250,000
Never, never mix apples and oranges.
DeleteWhat about in a fruit salad?
DeleteNot even a fruit salad.
DeleteOff topic, but valuable info for locals nonetheless:
ReplyDeleteDavid Berri (the cool guy who agreed to build an Art Deco style gas station to better fit historic hwy 101 in Leucadia) just switched from Mobil to his independent gas co. Berri Brothers station on N. 101 in Leucadia today has regular gas for only $3.59 per gallon!! (Cash sale, credit card sales a bit more). The two higher grades start at $3.69 and $3.79. Zowie! So swing on by there soon and help support a Leucadia biz and save a lot of money in the process! A worker told me the low prices should last at least a few weeks, but prices there will now always be more competitive. Thanks David!
The whisper is the property will be scraped then redeveloped.Thanks again EU.You wanted comps,be careful what you wish for.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the agreement, the zoning can't be changed for ten years. After that, who knows?
DeleteYou mean no more Best-A-Wan! Outrage! Well maybe they can re-open, but with doubled prices and "trattoria" in the name.
DeleteThe Besta-Trattoria. Mmmmmmm.
DeleteSorry
ReplyDeleteMy bad ,the property on the corner of Newcastle an Aberdeen 1/10 of an acre solid for 2 and 1/2 million.The word is it well be scraped and repurposed .